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mistake, this is not just any primary. a big one for donald trump tonight could seal the deal and help him lock up the republican nomination, but with just six hours left to stop trump the clash between the gop front-runner and his chief republican rival ted cruz has reached a new level. a level it seems safe to say we haven't seen yet. >> you know, his father was with lee harvey oswald prior to oswald's being, you know, shot. i mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. what is this right prior to his being shot? >> this is nuts. yes, my dad killed j.f.k., he is secretly elvis and jimmy hoffa is buried in his backyard. >> our political team is on the ground and around indiana with real time primary reports. first though for our viewers who may have missed it, here is the entire portion of ted cruz's news conference with reporters where he absolutely unleashed on donald trump. >> this morning donald trump
went on national television and attacked my father. donald trump alleges that my dad was involved in assassinating j.f.k. now let's be clear, this is nuts. this is not a reasonable position. this is just kookie, and while i'm at it, i guess i should go ahead and admit, yes, my dad killed j.f.k., he is secretly elvis and jimmy hoffa is buried in his backyard. you know donald's source for this is "the national inquire r "the national inquirer is trash and it's run by his best friend and he's endorsed donald trump. it's become his hit piece that he uses to smear anybody and everybody. and this is not the first time donald trump has used david pecker's national inquirer to go after my family.
it was also the national inquirer that went after my wife heidi, that just spread lies, blatant lies, but i guess donald was dismayed because it was a couple of weeks ago the inquirer write this idiot particular story about j.f.k. and donald was dismayed that the folks in the media weren't repeating this latest idiocy so he figured he'd have to do it himself. he'd have to go on national television and accuse my dad of that. listen, my father has been my hero my whole life. my dad was imprisoned, tortured in cuba. when he came to america he had nothing. he had $100 in his underwear. he washed dishes making 50 cents an hour. he's exactly the kind of person donald trump looks down on. i'm going to do something i haven't done for the entire campaign for those of y'all who have traveled with me all across the country. i'm going to tell you what i think of donald trump. this man is a pathological liar. he doesn't know the difference
between truth and lies. he lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. and he had a pattern that i think is straight out of a psychology textbook. his response is to accuse everybody else of lying. he accuses everybody on that debate stage of lying and it's simply a mindless yell. whatever he does he accuses everyone else of doing. the man cannot tell the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist. a narcissist at a level i don't think this country's ever seen. donald trump is such a narcissist that barack obama looks at him and goes, dude, what's your problem? everything in donald's world is about donald. and he combines being a pathological liar, and i say pathological because i actually think donald, if you hooked him
up to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing at noon and one thing in the evening all contradictory and he'd pass the lie detector test each time. whatever lie he's telling at that minute, he believes it. but the man is utterly amoral. let me finish this please. the man is utterly amoral. morality does not exist for him. it's why he went after heidi directly and smeared my wife, attacked her. apparently she's not pretty enough for donald trump. i may be biased, but i think if he's making that allegation he's also legally blind. but donald is a bully. you know, we just visited with fifth graders. every one of us knew bullies in elementary school. bullies don't come from
strength, bullies come from weakness. bullies come from a deep yawning cavern of insecurity. there is a reason donald builds giant buildings and puts his name on them everywhere he goes, and i will say there are millions of people in this country who are angry, they're angry at washington, they're angry at politicians who have lied to them. i understand that anger. i share that anger. and donald is cynically exploiting that anger. and he is lying to his supporters. donald will betray his supporters on every issue. if you care about immigration, donald is laughing at you. and he's telling the monied elites he doesn't believe what he's saying. he's not going to build a wall. that's what he told "the new york times." he will betray you on every issue across the bored. board.
and his strategy at being a bully in particular is directed at women. donald . this is the same donald trump last week in indiana, a convicted rapest who served three years in prison here in indiana for raping a 17 years old girl. in donald's world he said mike tyson was a tough guy. i don't think rapists are tough guys. i spent a lot of years in law enforcement dealing rapists. they are weak and coward and bullies. anyone who thinks they are tough guys, that reveal everything about donald trump's character. >> donald trump said bill clinton was targeted by
unattractive women, you know what? i have been blessed to be surrounded by strong women my entire life. today is voting day here in indiana. the president of the united states has a -- the president of the united states affects our culture. i ask the people of indiana, think about the next five years if this man were to become president, think about the next fivee' years, the boasting and e pathological lying and picking up the national inquire, and the
bullying and think about your kids coming back and emulating this. for people in indiana who long for days we were nice to each other and treated people with respects and we did not engage in lies or sleaze. donald trump is a serial -- he's proud to be that. i want to know what you think about your teenage kids. the president of the united states talks about how great it is to commit adultery and how proud he is. do you want to spend the next five years with your kids bragging about infidel. he does the same projection just like a pathological liar where he accuses everyone of lying. >> a lie about me and my family
and attacking my family. he accuses others of doing what he's doing. i will tell you as a father of two young girls, the idea of our daughters coming home and repeating any word that man says horrifies me. that's not who america is. and i would say to the hoosier state, the entire country is depending on you. the entire country is looking to you right now. it is only in indiana that can pull us back of good sense and judgment that can pull us back. we are staring at this. and, i have incredible faith in hoosier. >> you were up two weeks ago and
trump is at 15 points right now and you are saying all these things about him. >> mainstream media is doing everything they can to convince me this race is over. they only report donald trump. there was a poll that's done that shows me up by double di t digits. there is a broader dynamic at work which is network executives have made a decision to get behind donald trump. fox news have turned into the donald trump's network. burr dock is used to picking world leaders of austria running tabloi tabloids. we are seeing it here at home for the consequences of this nation. media executives are trying to convince hoosier and americans that the race is decided.
you have no choice and you are stuck between donald trump or hillary clinton, ieeither one ia horrific choice of this country. i would say on the cinisnysm. the country is depending on indiana and indiana does not act. this country could well plunge into this. i don't believe that's who we are. we are not a proud boast full, self centered mean spirited, hateful, bullying nation. you want to understand donald trump, look no further of the interview he did a few months ago in iowa when he was asked a simple question. when was the last time you ask
god for forgiveness and donald trump said he had never asked god for forgiveness of anything. i want you to think about that. what does that say about a person. i asked for god's forgiveness three times today. think about your children. do you want your children coming home and saying mommy i don't need to ask god for forgiveness of everything. why? because donald trump does it and if everyone likes him and all the media praises him then i don't need to either. i love this nation with all my heart and the people of this country. this is not who we are, these are not our values. if anyone have seen the movie "back to the future ii" the writer based the character on
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donald trump jr. responded to cruz's via twitter, that was an impressive melt down. reminded me of my three years old coming up with a sugar high. moments ago, quote, ted cruz is a desperate candidate trying to save his failing campaign. it is no surprise that he resorted to his usual tactics over the top. i have been watching lying ted becoming more and more unhinged as he's unable to react under pressure and stress of losing. the all cases by landslides of the primary elections and coming in last place in all of world cup -- one of them. ted cruz does not have the
testimo temperament to be the president of the united states. >> first nbc's halie jackson on the road following the cruz campaign in indiana for its primary watch party. she was at the q&a. was it bizarre there as it was watching? >> reporter: yeah, listen, i don't know if bizarre is the adjective. it was heated and it was a remarkable moment. it was something we have not seen from ted cruz in the past, something that sort of, i guess intense. . being there in person, he's talking with a group of ten or twelve reporters, local and national reporters. we have been with him for months. many of us have heard him talk about donald trump in the past. many of us remembered back in, you know, in september and october when cruz was asked
about trump, turning the other cheek essentially and refuse d o go after him. and this seems to be the combination of a swing for cruz, i think what you heard was somebody who emotionally and upset about the attacks against his father. we saw that before from cruz and another time when the national fire that was part of the headlines allegations against his wife heidi repeated by the national inquire and donald trump. we saw a repeat of that today. we saw him emptying the drawers and a lot of insults talking about fundamentally trumping a pathological liar and narcist.
all of this is happening, we have to remember this critical primary day in the end. cruz himself has raised the stakes here. cruz is painting this as what it is standing between the country and plunging into this. a lot of pressure on cruz here to perform. will he get out of the race after tonight? he spoke with the campaign a little bit ago. the responses that cruz will stay and fight in case donald trump ends upñl making some mistakes4k or dropping the ball. at the same time if there is a massive loss and depends on what the margins are and there is a question mark of what can happen tonight and tomorrow morning. cruz said he will stay as long as his survivor pact of 1237. >> did he ever answer you that
question of endorsing donald trump? >> reporter: no. with this something that chuck todd asking him several times on "meet the press." he has pushed back that question. it speaks to when cruz comes out and speak so strongly against donald trump, the question becomes, what happens if he's a nomin nominee. cruz consistently said he does not believe donald trump will be the nominee which is why he has not answer the question or has said what he will do. that did not change this morning. >> halie jackson on the road in indiana, thanks as always, be safe. now to nbc's jacob rascon who's been with the trail with donald trump reported on every word that came out of him now. this is not the first time we see trump using inquire national headline, why picked this day in
indiana? >> reporter: why did trump do anything he does really, craig? he was only hitting back and this was a response to ted cruz's father who came out and said every member of the body of christ as he put it should vote for ted cruz making a call out to the evangelicals. he was asked of that on fox news and he responded that. he added by the way, how come nobody is talking about this national inquire story about ted cruz's father. he jumped into that and said that's horrible and ridiculous that he would be pictured with lee harvey as waoswald. why would he do it? help want as new cycle and this seems to work for him and we are talking about it now and although now that ted cruz has done what he did we'll all talk
about that more. he likes to steal the new cycle and it seems to work for him at least so far. craig. >> jacob rascon in indiana, thank you. here is msnbc's political analyst and a former cruz's experience. let me start with you. what did he said there, he did seem someone on hinged at times. he called him arrogant and he said he was mean spirited and he went on -- you had a presidential front runner talking about his fill landering. it was bizarre to watch it unfold. had ted cruz not pull this stuff out six or seven months ago, do you think the trajectory of this race might be different?
>> well, perhaps. it is an example of many voters see or concerned about when trump has absolutely no filter in terms of what he's saying out there. i mean this is a welcome back to reality tv and that has become our presidential race. and this just as more of the same. i think in terms of ted cruz' response. if he accused your father of being somehow connected to the assassination of john kennedy, if it was not a serious accusati accusation, you would laugh at it. ted cruz did exactly what anyone would do which is get angry on the attack on his family. >> again, trump is going after his family before but it does seem odd that today generated the kind of response that it generated. i mean this 13 or 14 minutes
tyrant. i want to ask you of this political article posted, "stop trump to cruz:win indiana or else." there is been millions of supporting him in battleground states. come tomorrow, how do you guys continue raising money if you drop seventh straight to donald trump. >> well, i think there will be reassessments after tonight. quite frankly in california, the one path that is there, is that donald trump is not going to go over the 1237. the interesting thing about california is 93% of the delegates are picked at the congressional level. it is not a winner take all. it is only 7% are allocated based on winner take all. it is basically and congressional district battle that there is potential to in fact still to stomp him. >> you said to reassess after
tonight, does that mean that if you guys don't win in indiana, you guys are going to pack your things up and go home or does that mean you will pivot and change the focus of reference? >> i think there will be some privet but also a focus on what is left. you have next week and you have nebraska that cruz is likely to win. you have west virginia that's kind of mix ed in the west ther and you have oregon and washington proportional. you go into june 7th, on june 7th, you have the assumption that trump is going to do well and offset to win in south dakota and montana by trump or cruz. which then brings it down to california. i think, i don't know what the assessment would be for the cruz's campaign. what you heard is this thing is going all the way to california as a minimum and on a continuum. >> today we are talking about
this latest conspiracy theory, the reality is there is been several years' worth going back and president obama is not christian, he's a muslim. donald trump said there is this kid, two years old that he met was vaccinated. and no one, yourself included, no one was screaming and shouted about all of that. did you guys in some way contribute to what we are seeing by right now and by not shouting some of these lies along time ago? >> no, craig, we can talk about all those things along the way. what we have today is cruz is visibly angry. this is ted cruz prosecuting the case against donald trump, it
was a summation. what i found bizarre was not ted cruz. this press maybe pathetic years down the road. a bizarre conspiracy theory and this is the man that's going to get a national security briefing every morning, will he talk about this national security public? will he repeat rumors that he has heard of kim jung-on or vladimir putin? this is the front candidate with a political source. >> he's been doing it for a while now. this is not breaking news. >> right, right. >> but somehow it is the reactions to it. i think cruz is frustrated because he's a serious candidate who understands his topics and
he mastered the issues and he has a candidate he's running against who has not mastered the issue and he's a front runner, that got to be frustrated. >> there has to be a part of this that man, if my boss had done this months and months ago, i may not be sitting here. >> no, you got to have name id and you have to understand people to like you and issues about contrasts. if you skip that process through through, you will end up like governor rick perry, people did not know who he was. he attacked many celebrities and he paid the consequences on it. ted cruz prosecute the campaign in the correct way and he made sure people knew his name and liked him. then he laid out his issues, he has done that every step of the way.
when he got into the point of kra contrast, he demonstrated that. he's the last of the two standings because he prosecuted that campaign. >> rick, thank you. >> wish we had more time. >> thank you. >> tonight, don't miss our special live coverage of indiana's primary results. chuck todd is getting things started at 5:00 and followed by rachel maddow. it is all on msnbc tonight, we'll be right back. taking t ol. ye was ok but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep... another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? for my pain... i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap. and i can't wait to startlanta telling people how switching to geico could save them hundreds of dollars on car insurance.
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i just want to know how you can say you are pulling a lot of coal mines out of jobs and you are coming here to tell us how you are going to be our friends. those
people out there don't see you as friends. >> i know that. you know -- i don't know how to explain it other than what i have said is out of context. i have been talking about ho
helping coal countries for a long time. >> that wasj$ yesterday out of indianí he confronted the presidential runner over those comments she made earlier this year, she would put a lot of coal miners out of business. my colleague, andrea, spoke with clinton exclusively moments ago. >> i felt first of all, really honored that he would be so open and honest emotional emotionally describing what it is like and what it has been like. you see i think we have got to both move towards a clean energy future. i have been saying that across america. i have a plan that i think will move us there.
but, we also have to remember who turn down
the lights and power the factories and provided the energy that we need to build our country. so i have absolutely no personal feeling of concern about me. i am concerned about people like him and his family. that's where i came here. i am well aware of the politics in west virginia. you just briefly over viewed it. its gotten increasingly challenging for democrats to be successful. and, unfortunately, the political partisan attack on the efforts by our country have moved quickly towards a cleaner energy future has taken a toll. there is so many factors that worked. the price of natural gas as an alternative has hurt the coal
industry and the glut of coal around the world has hurt west virginia in particular. but, i want us to stay focused on what we have to do to help people. that's why i have as the only candidate i think to have done this laid out a plan as you say a $30 million plan to provide support for people like that young man and his beautiful children whose picture he gave me and i will carry it with me. i want us to recognize across our country that we are going to be in a position making a transition but we are not there yet. >> msnbc's criminal inteontribu dean, he's also a clinton's supporter. let's talk about that moment that we saw played out between secretary clinton and the coal miner. what's the ójájjt of this and
beyond? >> i think she explained this better than anybody else could. and certainly me, look, this is the coal people are in tough troubles, not the company because they have done a lot of things that are not great. this is the workers' fault. the coal mining is a great job and now we are moving forward. this is what the president has to do. they have to make choices nobody wants to make. we are going to go to a clean economy and we are going to move away from dirty fuels. we are going to have to do it in ways that that in stestead of putting people out of work. this is what hillary clinton is saying instead of putting people out of work. we have not seen all the people who were inside coal mining who were angry. we have not seen them doing
anything but better jobs and educations and better program to get your kids working instead of drug problems in place like west virginia. it happens in east kentucky and ohio. i thought hillary is great and she means what she said. it is a pledge that she's going to keep when she gets in the white house. >> during that wide range of interview, she spent some time talking about donald trump, here is what she said. >> when i listen to donald trump of foreign policy and national security, even i find it scary. this is -- this is nobody has gone to. let's open doors to countries having more nuclear women and punish women for exercising their personal rights. he has given no indication that he understands the gravity of the responsibilities that go to being commandeering chief. >> here are some numbers from
our survey monkey tracking poll. >> donald trump is gaining grounds on hillary clinton nationally. what should be her strategy in the general election? >> first, i find polls like this to me are meaningless. neither side is going to combat against each other in a serious way. donald trump does not fell the sustained attack other than republican pacts. we are not anywhere near this and we are not going to know anything about the two months of who's up and who's down. i would do exactly what she's doing and i would stick to her guns and i remember we are not quite done and today is a big day. in the ends if hillary wins, i t think we need to turn towards the general election in a serious way. i think the republicans will
keep their eyes on the primary. >> howie dean, thank you very much. >> thanks. the risk could be growing after the committee chair weighs in on the senator's claims. >> i absolutely think that a party nominee are chosen by someone registered by that party. we should not have democrats or republicans playing games. >> our own chris jansing caught up with the senator in minneapolis today to get his reaction on her comment. >> i think it is kind of backward. more and more people are going outside of the republican end and democratic party. to say that when a primary takes place such as the case in new york city, that three million
people should be disfranchise and not being able to vote, i think it makes no sense at all. the world has changed and more and more people are independence and it makes no sense for the democrats to say that to those people you cannot help us. for democrats to do well in the national election, they'll need a lot in the election. >> reporter: you talked on sunday that this is your plan and there is a lot of speculations exactly what you mean and in terms of what you are going to do at the convention, can you clarify that? >> this is what i am going to do, one of those states where we have 75% of the vote. the super delegates, listen to the people in their own states, hey, maybe i will stay hungry for anyone 75% of the votevotes got to vote with them. other super delegates who may
have come on board literally when i am in the camcampaign. they have to take a hard look of which candidate and more of the republican nominee. if you look at virtually of all of the polls, i do better against trump than hillary clinton. i am the stronger candidate. you can see a lot of super delegates, i like hillary but bernie is a strong candidate. it is imperative that we take control of the white house. >> coming up in our next hour, my colleague erika hill speaks with jean sanders, the candidate's wife. >> up next, an act of desperation. more reactions to the he says she says battle of the critical cross route state of indiana. here in new york, just don't call it a union. here is 30 seconds on the
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positi position. while i am at it, yes, my dad killed jfk, he's secretly elvis. this man is a pathological liar. he does not know the difference between truth and lies. he lies practicely every woally that comes out of his mouth. in a pattern that i think is straight out of a psychology textbook being combined of being a narcisst, donald tru -- baracs at him that he thinks, dude, what's your problem. he went after my wife and apparently she's not pretty enough for donald trump. this is not a secret, describe
his battle with the disease. donald trump said he never asked god for forgiveness for anything. i want you to think about that. what does that say about a person? i ask god for forgiveness three times today. anybody has seen the movie "back to the future ii." the screen writer says he based the character on donald trump. we are looking potentially at it. >> he ends with the "back to the future" reference. joining me now is the virginia of pennsylvania. uva of the center politics. we are learning from our political team is anti-trump forces spent some $6 million in indiana alone ahead of today's primary. what is your take on that, trump's allegations and cruz's
response and whether any of it makes a difference at all? >> let me point this out to you, okay? i think it was last sunday and i am so confused about days anymore because so much happens in a day. chuck todd questions ted cruz six weeks to sunday about whether or not he would endorse donald trump. well, i wish he could ask him again today because after what senator cruz has said, i don't see any possible way that cruz could ever endorse trump. if he does, if trump gets a nomination, that endorsement will be absolutelyf# unbelievab if you play[3 this segment of t interview again or play this segment of the cruz's press conference. that is one of the harshest p pronounuation that i have been
following presidential politics. >> you make a good point. it is hard to see anyone after this that he would eve ever -- forget an endorsement and not spending the next five, six months crisscr s crisscrossing the country going after trump. lets go from the primary to the general election matchup. nbc news general election poll, clinton and hillary have substantially negative ratings. clinton at 56% and trump at 65%. in a general election, how does clinton exploit trump's weaknesses and et cetera. >> they will run no matter what they say at the convention, they will both run a scorched earth campaign. when you have unfavorables as high as hillary clinton and donald trump, whose unfavorables are even higher than hillary clinton's you're going to spend way too much time, money and effort trying to reduce the unfavorables for yourself.
you might as well concentrate on the other shiide. what's the lesson that the 16 republicans who may well have lost to donald trump are telling other people? they didn't hit trump often enough, hard enough, early enough. i rather suspect the clinton campaign, some of whom are old hands and remember the '92 and '96 campaigns and the whole clinton presidency understood that lesson long ago. >> you indicated that clinton strategy yould also be focused on so-called swing states as well. we heard donald trump say time and time again he is going to flip some of these states from blue to red and put other states in play. how realistic of a strategy is that for a trump campaign? >> personally, i don't regard it realistic at all. some people i respect seem to think trump has a good opportunity to turn pennsylvania and ohio and michigan.
i'll believe it when i see it. given the fact clinton has some problems with white male working class voters, i think she and her campaign really do have to devote time and attention to nailing down those normally democratic states, especially pennsylvania and michigan, early. then, you move onto the key swing states, florida, virginia, colorado, nevada, iowa, new hampshire. if things are really going well for clinton in the fall, if it's against trump, it's possible she should try and turn a couple of additional states democratic, georgia and arizona. >> director for the uva center for politics. we always learn something from you. thank you for your time. >> thank you. a newly released 911 call could reveal concerns about possible cocaine use by superstar musician, prince. breaking news. we have it for you on the other side of this break.
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