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hillary clinton, you know, i just left west virginia where she said -- where she said we're going to put the miners out of business and we're going to put the mines out of business. no, no, think of it. so then she goes to west virginia and she tried to say, well, she really didn't mean that. you know, she said that in a different part where these are politicians, all talk, no
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action. >> this week with no more republican rivals to pick on, donald trump shifted his focus to hillary clinton. in particular, trump has hit on clinton's comments in march about, quote, putting a lot of coal miners out of business, making it one of his primary talking points ahead of tuesday's west virginia primary. but i want to take you a moment to play you hillary clinton's remarks on coal country in their full context. >> so, for example, i'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right, tim? and we're going to make it clear that we don't to forget those people. those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories. now we've got to move away from coal and all the other fossil
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fuels. but i don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on. >> now, the additional context helps illustrate the legitimate observable anxiety that many working class white voters do have about potential job loss within the coal industry. the number of jobs have dropped from 68,000 in march of 2015 to about 57,000 this past march, a reduction of more than 10,000 jobs in just one year. as we've seen, anxiety over job loss has permeated the entire 2016 campaign. that anxiety takes on a particular light for white middle aiminged working class americans who are also facing rising rates in substance abuse and suicide. with me is whitney dow and robert p. jones and paul waldman of the american prospect. thank you for being here. i want to talk about the practicality of what donald trump is attempting to say and
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i'll start with you on this, paul. this is donald trump saying what he would do about the jobs being loss in the coal industry. we heard hillary clinton saying what she wants to do. this is donald trump saying what he wants to do. >> i watched her three or four weeks ago when she was talking about the miners as if they were just numbers and she was talking about she wants the mines closed and she will never let them work again. let me tell you, the miners in west virginia and pennsylvania which were so great to me last week and ohio and all over are going to start to work again, believe me. you're going to be proud again to be miners. >> so, paul, you have these sort of equal and opposite reactions to what we're seeing in terms of hillary clinton saying we need to move to renewable energy and not forget about the people who were in those mines doing the best they could and donald trump saying, no, we're just going to keep the mines open. obviously if donald trump's solution is simpler, is it
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pragmatic? >> of course not. i think it's a piece of his whole appeal to a certain kind of white voter frankly. the idea that we can turn back the clock and go back to where the way that things used to be. he says he's going to do that economically. he says he's going to do that culturally and he's speaking to an economic anxiety and also a sense of alienation that a sense a lot of older white voters have where they feel like their country is slipping away from them. it's not the place it was when they were young. the hierarchies of race and gender are being upended. they go down to the grocery store and hear people speaking spanish and all of these things make them feel like their country is slipping away from them. when we think about the tiny number of people engaged in coal mining in america today, the idea that we can reopen the mines that have been closed and all kinds of people will go back into coal mine, it's just fanciful. there's no reality behind that whatsoever but that's true of a
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lot of the things trump proposes but he's speaking to this alienation and particularly for older voters, the idea that we can go back to the way things used to be is really comforting. it's more really of an emotional feeling than it is kind of a reel sort of practical plan. and i think that the support that he has is because people connect with that emotion. the idea that if we could just go back then everything would be okay. and how practical it is, that doesn't really enter into the calculati calculation. >> robbie, this is exactly the kind of research that you have done, exactly what paul was just talking about. people just want it back, that they don't necessarily even care that it's realistic. >> that's right. but i do think it's really a good opportunity to get our heads around the deep sense of anxiety that white working class americans, you know, feel in the country today. only four in ten of them say that america's best days are ahead of us. that's compared to majorities of white college educated americans, african-americans,
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latinos are more optimistic on this point and only four in ten says the federal government looks out for them where six in ten of them say the federal government looks out for african-americans, latinos and even other whites. there's no other group where there's a 20-point spread between those who say the federal government is looking out for people like us versus looking out for everyone else. and the picture that it really paints is a group that really feels left behind economically and culturally and left out. >> and can you very quickly talk a bit specifically about kentucky and west virginia, because those are the next two up on the calendar. what specific issues are taking place in those two states? >> exactly right. coal mining is right at the center of this. the numbers you put up show these jobs have been really disappearingnd very dramatically -- in the recent past. but it's also a real challenge because i mean these states also have some of the highest poverty
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rates in the country. six in ten west virginians have a high school education or less. so it means that the challenges in these states are quite severe. so even if we're going to retrain people for a new industry as sort of the coal mines in west virginia and kentucky are being depleted, it's going to take a massive retraining effort because of the educational base isn't there. i think it's that sense that we hear in west virginia, kentucky voters that the future looks pretty bleak. and so it's really all about what can a candidate help them imagine is a new kind of future. i think trump can at least queue up the 1950s, 1960s when we had manufacturing jobs and mining jubz. it's a tougher sell to imagine a new kind of future and that's the real challenge hillary clinton has on her heads. >> i want to bring in perry bacon jr. to the table. perry bacon is a kentucky native and somebody who has covered a lot of on the ground reaction, specifically to the affordable care act in kentucky. you'vexperienced in
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realtime this sense of need and rejection of a solution that comes specifically from obama world. what is that about in the state of kentucky from your reporting? >> you know, i talk to a lot of people in these rural counties who would say in one breath i've got health insurance for the first time, i went to the doctor for the first time and i ask them about president obama and they have a long list of criticisms about him and things he's done. i think one thing that's important is there's a lot of reasons why coal jobs have disappeared from west virginia, from kentucky particularly and some of it has to do with the epa and some has to do with natural gases grow. there are a lot of reasons, fewer jobs need to produce the same amount of coal as in the past. but the voters have been told by republicans that there's a war on coal from democrats and that is why these jobs are going away so they have been kind of framed in some way to think the democrats are, you know, hurting their industry. the industry they believe in. and the second point is even
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though they're coal jobs, not necessarily a huge amount of the jobs in a state like kentucky, there's a lot of other industries too, being pro-coal is a way to prove that you understand eastern and western kentucky in some way the. i think hillary's remark about how we're getting rid of these coal jobs was akin to the thing obama said people clung to their guns and their religion. it may have been a statement with some amount of truth to it but it felt to people who heard it like he doesn't understand us. i think it was a problematic comment for hillary to make even if on the data point of it she's basically right. >> and even if in the larger context she's saying she wants to do more for them on the ground. perry just made the other point which is how that cultural feeling and angst has translated in the politics. looking at west virginia's voting history, it used to be solidly democratic. you had them drilling down into jobs saying let's build these coal miners up and they were democrats all the way through the 1970s. then all of a sudden in 1996
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they vote for democrats and then it flips and from 2000, you can see that bar completely flip and then it gets more and more and more and more republican. the same thing happens in kentucky. it's democratic from the new deal on, democratic from the '70s, it starts to tilt and then you have this turn again after the clinton administration toward the republicans and it becomes more and more gop. you talk to so many of these voters on the ground as part of the whiteness project. when is that all about? >> this is confusing to me, joy. this idea that they vilify the democratic party and they also vilify the institutions that protected the middle class. they vilify the unions. the unions are the people, whether it's the coal mining unions, the auto, woulders you know -- autoworkers union, they protected the middle class. instead of looking to the organization that you pay your dues to to support you and to keep your industry working, they look to somebody who will say, okay, well, if this company
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doesn't do its job, we're going to send -- we're going to put a 35% tax on them. it's this very weird thing that this plutocrat is going to protect you as opposed to your workers union. so i don't understand it but there's an incredible amount of angst. the economy is shifting. the world is shifting. the world always shifts, right? and this idea which paul talked about that said that you can turn back the clock is just not happening. i also don't -- so i don't -- i understand the angst but i don't understand why they have essentially turned on the people that have traditionally helped them. >> let's go to our demo grapher on that, robbie. why has that happened? >> in political science circles we talk about this as the great white switch. a lot of it really is reactions against the civil rights movement and the signing of the civil rights acts in the 1960s. it took until reagan where whites gradually began to vote
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republican at the top of the ticket and still voting for democrats and we still have robert byrd in the west virginia senate from the mid-1950s up until recently and we're just now seeing a republican senator from west virginia, but we see this shift. it really has to do with this kind of black and white divide in the south where white southerners really do start identifying with the republican party and it's a slow shift. but reagan is really the tipping point. as the charts show, we begin to see it becoming even more and more solid into the 2000s. >> paul, i want to go back and play you, because when you talk about past presidents, you'll make me bring up lbj. it is an interesting shift in the way democrats used to talk about poverty and marry urban and rural poverty together. you always wanted to make sure appalachia was mentioned as a way to make everyone have a stake it in. let's listen to lyndon johnson talking about the war on poverty. >> but whatever the costs, our
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joint federal-local effort must pursue poverty, pursue it wherever it exists. in city slums, in small towns. in share croppers shacks or in migrant worker camps. on indian reservations, among whites as well as negroes. among the young as well as the aged. in the boom towns and in the depressed areas. >> paul waldman, is part of this in a shift in the way the democratic party has talked about poverty? >> democrats have always sort of done both things at once. on one hand, they want to explain to african-americans that they want to do something about poverty, since there's disproportionate amounts of poverty between african-americans, but on the other hand they want to tell people that poverty is not just a black problem, it's also a white problem. and so you see them kind of trying to do both of these things at the same time.
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one of the things that republicans have encouraged is really for people to aim their resentments downward. so what you see in a lot of places is that there's kind of a fomenting of a lot of resentiment and anger at people who need to rely on government programs like food stamps in order to get by. one of the messages people get from republicans is that that's shameful. so you do things like making people who are on welfare have to take a drug test. not because there's any evidence that people who are on welfare are using drugs any more than anybody else, but just sort of to increase the shame of the and that's a way of stigmatizing those programs and making people -- telling people that you can consider yourself better than the people who are one rung below you on the ladder and may be having to rely on food stamps or take some welfare from time to time. that's a way of kind of keeping those programs always under attack and that's part of the republican message. i think you see it have a great
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effect in a lot of places that are struggling economically where people say i'm having trouble, but at least i'm not a lay about like that person across the street who's getting food stamps. >> white knee, do you see from havingdon interviews one on one, is there a way to untangle this racial resent meant and nostalgia. >> if i knew how to untangle the knot of racial resentment in measure, i would not be sitting at this desk right now. you know, i think that the hardest thing for the people that i've been talking to is to take their personal experience and put it in a national context. white people in general, they like to think their personal experience is representation of something greater. paul pointed out that the numbers that we're talking about are very, very small numbers. it's this huge story and it's not a huge chunk of the population. when in fact even though the
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demographics are shifting, even though that we are headed to a white minority country, white people are not in trouble -- are not -- are not losing their grip on the levers of power. i read this interesting stat the other day about how there's more white people named john who are the ceos of fortune 1500 companies than even women. so the idea that there's this big shift is not actually accurate, even though there's a huge chunk of the country hurting economically. >> it's an illusion but a powerful illusion obviously. thank you so much. the whiteness project is something you should all check out. i appreciate robbie jones, perry and paul are going to stick around. stay right there. up next, hillary, bernie and hiv/aids activism in the 21st century.
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hillary clinton outraged many activists engaged in the fight against aids when just before first lady nancy reagan's funeral in march, she offered this revisionist history about the reagans. >> it may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about hiv/aids back in the 1980s. and because of both president and mrs. reagan, in particular mrs. reagan, we started a national conversation when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it. it penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too. >> but as many people pointed out immediately, the reagans had a terrible record on hiv/aids. the president refused to even publicly acknowledge the crisis, much less mobilize the country against it. clinton quickly apologized, calling what she said a mistake. bernie sanders seized on the opportunity to take a swing at the democratic front-runner. >> i just don't know what she
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was talking about. in fact that was a very tragic moment in modern american history. there were many, many people who were dying of aids and in fact there was demand all over this country for president reagan to start talking about this terrible tragedy and yet he refused to talk about it while the aids epidemic was sweeping this country. so i'm not quite sure where secretary clinton got her information. >> but since then, the moment has faded from the national political spotlight and the activists who sanders courted in that moment of now feeling left behind. meaning me is michael raynor. thank you for joining me this morning. since that happened, the coalition that you're a part of reached out to hillary clinton's campaign for -- to ask her for a meeting and you also reached out to the other leading presidential candidates. talk about what has happened since then.
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>> well, actually, joy, we reached out to every campaign, both on the republican and democratic side. and even yesterday or friday i heard from the trump campaigns to even confirm that they are interested in speaking with us. this thursday we're going to be meeting with secretary hillary clinton in new york city in a private meeting. we're very excited. she is committed to giving us at least one full hour or maybe more to go over our issues and discuss her plans and go over an agenda of items that we really want to see. senator sanders, unfortunately, you know, we got a meeting on a friday, the following sunday they cancelled and postponed and that meeting was scheduled for that tuesday in indianapolis on the day of the primary. so we were very upset. we haven't heard anything back from the sanders campaign and we really don't know if his criticism, for instance, of secretary clinton at the time of nancy reagan's funeral was just more rhetoric or if he's really
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sincere about sitting down with us to go over what it's going to take to address the epidemic of hiv/aids internationally and domestically here at home. >> and i should note that we here did reach out to the bernie sanders campaign to try to find out if they plan to reach out to you guys and plan to confirm a new meeting with you. we did not hear back from them. we did try on multiple occasions to do that. what do you want to hear from these candidates regarding the fight against aids? >> well, for the past several weeks we've been meeting regularly by conference call and i can't tell you how many hundreds of e-mails narrowing down our agenda for a meeting with each of the candidates. one of the things globally, for instance, by year 2020 we want to see a $2 billion increase in global aid spending to address that. when we look at the agenda for the national epidemic we have 45,000 new aids transmissions each year. by 2020 we want to see the
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commitment for funding and other strategies to ensure that we can bring down those infections to 12,000 per year. secretary clinton to her credit after her gaffe has really stepped up to broaden and make sure she was more detailed on her platform how to address the epidemic. but with senator sanders, it's quite vague. it's missing a lot of information, including dialogue on pre-exposure prophylactic known at prep, which is very important intervention in order to reduce new hiv transmissions, especially among gay men and others. >> michael, you and i have known each other for a long time and had this conversation about the intersectionality between the issue of hiv and aids and race. you are an activist in south florida where, you know, new instances of people living with
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hiv are really escalating among african-american women, for instance. if you look at the statistics of new hiv cases by population in 2010, you can see that white gay men are still at the top of the list in terms of, you know, people who are living with hiv. but you do also see that black and latino women and black men are also part of this conversation. how important is it to have that kind of intersectional dialogue that also does bring race to the table? >> it's critical. you know, one of our focuses as well is i've been having conversations with dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz. and one of our demands as well is with the party establishment. we'd like to make sure that we have once again a person living with hiv speaking at each of the conventions, both republican and democrat. it seems to have gone by the wayside. one of the things we're pushing for hopefully is a young, gay black man living with hiv. we haven't identified that specific speaker yet. but it's one of the most
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important populations right now that many of us are trying to focus on. and there's no doubt that, you know, i can tell you stories are individuals that i've had to help, but we seem to find that, especially among young gay black men, that they go from unlike myself, where i have the privilege and easier access to health care as a white man, when we look into the minority communities, they struggle to get early intervention care, earlier diagnosis, it's just not there in minority communities. we want to make sure that any plan is vetted. in florida, it's great that florida governor rick scott wants to now demand funds for zika from the federal government. when you look at providing that medical coverage that's needed or the health coverage in order for individuals in low income communities to access the needed medical care for zika, where is it when medicaid is one of the things that's been left off the table in florida. >> very briefly just to wrap up,
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what would you tell senator sanders if he were listening right now having not confirmed a meeting with you and not gotten back with you? >> well, quite honestly we feel burned by the bern and certainly suggest that he give us a call and reach out immediately. his campaign has been in lockdown and has refused to answer any of our e-mails and there's been numerous ones. so we encourage him to reach out to us. the fact that we can actually hear from donald trump's campaign, a genuine commitment to want to sit down with us once they have their policy team firmed, it sent a chilling statement. i think senator sanders has wanted to be a champion for the underdog and marginalized communities. hiv/aids is probably one of the most maurrginalized communities there are. we ask senator sanders to engage more in the issues and not the political rhetoric we see. >> hopefully you'll let us know if you hear from the sanders campaign. rear l really appreciate you. >> i will, joy. happy mother's day and thank you for having me on.
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i'll reach out to you as soon as we meet with secretary clinton on thursday. >> excellent. thank you very much. appreciate it. coming up next, when the buzzing stops, the disappearance of bees and the frightening consequences. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ find fast relief behind the counter allergies with nasal congestion? with claritin-d. [ upbeat music ] strut past that aisle for the allergy relief that starts working in as little as 30 minutes and contains the best oral decongestant. live claritin clear, with claritin-d. could protect you from diabetes?
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we now turn to a story about bees. yes, bees. the industrious little insects that do a lot more than provide the honey in your tea. they sting acti, they swarm, thn incite fear. they can even upstaged president obama at the easter egg roll last year. that's okay, guys. they won't sting you. they'll be okay. wait, wait, wait. >> the president is actually right. bees are good because bees
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pollinate the fruits, nuts and vegetables that are crucial for our diets and the nation's food industry. experts have said that you can thank a pollinator for one out of three bites of food that you eat. a vital part of our economy also rides on the tiny little backs of bees. they contributing more than $15 billion in value to agricultural crops each year in the united states. yet the buzz around bees has been bad lately. bee keepers have for years been reporting unusually high losses of 30% to 90% of their hives. over the past decade, billions of bees have been lost to good called colony collapse disorder, a phenomenon in which the majority of worker bees in a colony disappear and leave their queen behind. reports of linked the decline to parasites, pesticides and habitat loss. in 2014 the obama administration created a federal strategy to promote the health of honeybees and other pollinators. but the bee remains in jeopardy. and that means our food supply
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could be impacted too. now, before you fall into apocalyptic despair, know there are steps that can be taken to help the bees. accordsing to the u.s. fish and wildlife serve that includes planting a pollinator garden, providing a nesting habitat and avoiding the use of pesticides. in fact this ambassador is taking it even further. she created her own business selling lemonade and donates a percentage of her profits to organizations who work to save bees. a little help for the bees could actually save human lives. stay right there, the supreme court nominee merrick garland, his record on race issues and his chances for confirmation now that donald trump is the presumptive republican nominee. that is next. throwing obstacle? first - they limit where you earn bonus cash back. then - those places change every few months? i think i'll pass...
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no confirmation hearings scheduled. president obama launched a multi-state media blitz to get garland confirmed. speaking on his nominee's behalf on six local tv shows. the lawyers committee for civil rights under law released a report providing a fuller glimpse on the perspective garland might bring to the supreme court if he ever gets voted in. back with me is l. joy williams, wade henderson of the leadership conference on civil and legal rights and kristen clark, executive director of the lawyers committee for civil rights. kristen, i will start with you. give me essentially the bottom line from the lawyers committee on merrick garland's qualifications and his civil rights record from your organization's point of view. >> well, what we did was we looked at every single ruling that judge garland has issued during his 19-year tenure on the d.c. circuit with a focus on those cases concerning education, employment and housing issues, criminal justice issues, voting rights, and what
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we found was interesting. in the employment context, that's where we learned the most. in the employment context, judge garland has a tendency to ensure that plaintiffs who bring claims of discrimination forward get their day in court, and he doesn't kick cases out on small technicalities. he wants to ensure that those plaintiffs get to tell those stories and that the facts really help yield the answer. and the criminal justice context unsurprisingly, judge garland is a former prosecutor and tends to side with the prosecution in the criminal cases that we looked at. we didn't find a lot of cases on education and voting and i think that's attributable to the unique nature of the d.c. circuit. it's a court that hears a lot of administrative cases, more so than any other federal circuit court around the country. but what we conclude is that judge garland is unquestionably qualified and deserving of a hearing. and we think that a hearing will
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provide the public an opportunity to ask more hard questions about his stance on civil rights. but for that to happen, the senate needs to do its job and actually hold hearings. >> yeah. >> so that we can go deeper beyond the report that we put out and understand what kind of jurist will he be on the supreme court when it comes to critical civil rights issues. >> yeah, absolutely. wade, i'm going to ask you the same question from the leadership conference's point of view. merrick garland's qualifications and his civil rights question. >> i don't think there's any question that merrick garland is among the most qualified nominees any president has ever put forward to the supreme court. he's the chief judge of the second most powerful federal court in the country, the d.c. circuit court of appeals. he's been heavily lauded by both conservatives and progressives. ken starr, for example, has endorsed him as has a professor at georgetown law school known for his conservative points of view along with john paul
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stevens, the retired member of the supreme court, and also now ex-solicitors general of the united states. those are the lawyers who represent the united states when we go before the supreme court, and both democrats and republicans have lauded merrick garland. i don't think there's any question that he is eminently qualified. the issue was never garland. it was always about the president who nominated him. in this instance, president obama is being villified for having put forth a candidate who was open fully embraced by members of the senate republican majority. senator hatch, for example, talked about merrick garland before he was nominated as someone he'd like to see on the court. so the issue was never about garland, it was always about president obama. garland's views on race, as i think kristen has pointed out, are pretty well established and he is clearly within the mainstream of solid majority
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support on most issues involving the advancement of equality in american life. so that wasn't the issue. i think the real question now that republicans in the senate have to face is now that donald trump is the presumptive nominee, is their position going to remain the same as it did before that happened, which is to say that they will not support merrick garland's confirmation until after the election. here's what's so troubling about that. on the one hand they have embraced the prospective nominee that president obama has now put forth and on the other hand they have said they don't like donald trump, he's among the most villified candidates ever nominated by a major party, and now the party is going to say, but still we'd like to have donald trump make that nomination. that's outrageous and we know that. >> and yet, l. joy williams, i've got to come to you on this, because the question now for republicans is in fact as wade said whether or not to then root for donald trump to be the one to make the nomination.
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you started to see the never trump side of the republican -- they came out and said confirm judge gaurland right now before donald trump or hillary clinton will make a nomination more left. the naacp repe -- naacp said he ennae ennently qualified. he does tend to side with the prosecution in these cases. he has rarely granted relief to defendants who have complained that they have had ineffectual counsel. he's much more a prosecution-siding judge. so there are some gaps and some questions. ought progressives be excited about the prospect of republicans caving and just going ahead and having hearings and placing merrick garland in a lifetime supreme court seat? >> this is the difficulty of the current situation, right, because you have republicans trying to block this
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confirmation. therefore, it created a stall of really doing a public vetting of the candidate that the administration put forward because imagine if we were moving forward, there were hearings scheduled and ldf and others were able to fully put out their investigate record because they do, civil rights are doing their job. and then put out this information and then have a real dialogue among progressives, among liberals about whether or not this is a candidate we should support. instead, we're coalescing around at least give him a hearing, let's go forward with the confirmation hearing. so we don't even get the time to really delve into the pick candidate's particulars and whether or not there's a better candidate that should be presented because we're more focused on, well, let's actually get a hearing scheduled. and so these -- even if we get a hearing scheduled and things go forward, these issues will be not front and center then,
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because again, the politics is all about can we get a confirmation hearing and go forward. >> exactly. kristen, i think that might be the concern of a lot of particularly progressives who are looking at this process and saying, wait a minute, now we might be rushing toward just trying to get this person confirmed in order to avoid something worse in the fall but as people concerned particularly about civil rights and about things like the criminal justice system, because there be more pause, including from civil rights groups, about just saying confirm this guy because he's obama's guy. >> you know, the stakes are high. there are incredibly important civil rights cases before the court right now where we face the risk of a 4-4 tie, a deadlock, where circuit courts and lower courts will be without the benefit of the supreme court's rulings announcing what the rules should be on these really big, important issues on voting rights, reproductive rights, immigrants' rights. we have people on death row who may be seeking executions -- may
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be seeking stays on their executions. we within the civil rights community believe it's deeply important that we get that court back up to nine members so that it can properly do its job. we think it's important to have hearings and as is the case with every supreme court nominee, that we ask hard questions about the kind of jurist that they will be when it comes to civil rights issues. but for all of that to happen, the senate needs to do its job. we're now at day 53 since the president named his nominee to fill the vacancy on the court. and it is deeply regrettable and a dark day in our democracy that the senate is not moving forward with hearings at this stage. >> absolutely. but how ironic would it be if progressives woke up only to find that a justice more acceptable to republicans than progressives wound up on the court. that would be an interesting development. joy will be back, i'll be back too. thank you to wade henderson and
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what will be next week's big story? let's ask the panel. pvj, what's the big headline next week? >> the showdown, the wonk versus the winner. paul ryan is the wonky house speaker and donald trump has won all these primaries and now is the republican nominee. next week trump is coming to
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capitol hill on thursday to meet with republican leadership. paul ryan this week said he wasn't ready to be for trump yet. now you see trump saying he isn't sure paul ryan should be chair after all. it's a big moment as we look at where the republican party moves forward and if it can unify. i assume paul ryan is going to have to back down some because he's getting a lot of blowback. >> paul ryan's probably running for president in 2020. always got to keep that in mind. >> absolutely. >> what will be the big headline next week? >> ted cruz launches his 2020 presidential campaign, which i say only half in jest. if and when donald trump loses in november, cruz and some other people will argue that the only reason be was because he wasn't a true conservative. therefore, the party doesn't
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need tobeliefs. that is what will lead them to victory. >> it will also be helpful if they nom named somebody that people like. the problem with ted cruz is a lot of people don't like him. everybody loves baby, paul. i think that i've got a guest here who has a much better chance of being the next president of the united states in 2020. she might not be quite old enough. she's here with eljoy williams. what will be the headline next week? >> happy mother's day message. >> happy mother's day. oh my gosh. oh my goodness. >> you know, i think there's been -- you know, obviously everybody keeps trying to throw something at trump and it doesn't stick. we've been complaining a lot about the media not doing its job of vetting donald trump. there's the story about trump
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university and about how he attached his name or promised a lot of things that people are being sued from now. what i'm hoping will happen -- i don't know if it will or not -- is that we actually begin some vetting of donald trump as a candidate since now he's the presumptive nominee. and we get some vet iting of hi record, of things that he said, of his business practices since he's the best businessman and negotiator. let's put that to the test. let's look at the things he's done and see whether or not the american people can benefit from it. >> i think the media has a tremendous responsibility to do that. pressure builds on sanders' campaign. i think the democratic party establishment up to and including people in and around the white house are start going to put tremendous pressure on sand ers to come around, stop attacking hillary clinton. >> president obama was asked about this.
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here's what's happening. a combative 48 hours in the race for president. new words from a defiant donald trump as he tries to set the tone ahead of his meeting with paul ryan. >> if he doesn't want to support me that's fine. look, i'm going to get millions and millions of vote more than the republicans would have gotten. if you look at the numbers, i think right now or this week or next week, in the history of the republican party nobody has ever gotten so many votes as i have. i've beateniz eisenhower and nin and everybody. >> also, hillary clinton sends her own message to voters. >> i'm not going to run an ugly race. i'm going to run a race based on issues. i don't really feel like i'm running against trump. >> senator elizabeth warren gets

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