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>> while one candidate tries to seal the deal -- >> what is speaker ryan's relationship going to be with donald trump? >> what is one issue that paul ryan and donald trump were able to come to an agreement on? >> another refuses to yield. >> in the next five weeks, we're going to win a lot of votes! >> they are keeping their focus on donald trump. >> would you vote for hillary clinton? >> if i have to, to make sure that donald trump is not our next president. >> now, hear what's next in this extraordinary race from four journalists who have been on the campaign trail since day one. katy tur, kristen welker, hallie jackson, and caskasie hunt, the "road warriors." ♪ ♪ and welcome to the third
edition of the "road warriors." they say the third time is the charm. i want to introduce my friends who are here, kristen welker, kasie hunt, hallie jackson, and the lovely ari melber. >> hello, hello. >> nice to be here. >> huge week on the campaign trail this week. specifically yesterday, just so many twists and turns, lots of drama. >> i feel like the last time we were here and where we are today, it's like another lifetime happened in the last seven days. >> these weeks feel like months. >> exactly. >> they kind of do. >> we want to get to ari with breaking news, right? >> you cover donald trump, sometimes it feels like we all cover donald trump. i don't know if you guys ever feel that way. >> to some extent. [ laughter ] >> but katy and i worked on a story covering the fact that all the money he's spent on his campaigns has been organized as loans. he has until august to convert those and make them donations, or use the new money he's raising to pay himself back and his campaign aides had been up
in the air about that. moments ago, i got an e-mail directly from donald trump under his own name, saying, quote, i have no intention of paying myself back for the nearly $50 million i've around to the campaign. this money, he says, is a contribution made in order to make america great again. that's the most explicit he has been in intending to say it's donations. as you know, it's more money than we knew he'd spent, it had only been 36. we'll be tracking whether he does go beyond this statement and take the action by the august deadline to make these donations. >> and this is the thing that voters love about him, the idea he's self-financed. it allows him to underscore this argument that he's outside politics and doing things differently. but as he moves to the general, it will be interesting to see it that changes. >> and he's already raised money. you have a donation button on your website. you are taking in money. when you go to the events and talk to people about why they like donald trump, they go, well, he's funding his own
campaign. because he says it at every rally. >> and they believe him. the reality s he's just loaning this money. if he has no intention of paying himself back, why is it still a loan? why not just give his campaign that money and be done with it and settle all of it? but that is not the donald trump way as we have seen. we have sound of him talking about this. let's take a listen. >> i would have had hundreds of millions of dollars, if i wanted to have a super pac, and if i wanted to have other people fund my campaign. i don't want other people to fund my campaign. look, i'm the only one that's self-funding, democrat, republican. everyone else is taking money from, i call them the blood suckers. these guys are all taking their money from special interests. let me tell you, the politicians will never do the job, because they're bought and paid for, folks. we have a movement, and you know what i'm getting for this movement, i get nothing, i'm self-funding my campaign, okay? >> so he is taking some money on
his donation website. but bernie sanders is taking smaller donations and disavowing the larger ones, right? >> and his campaign has been, i remember being in new hampshire and listening to the radio ads and thinking, bernie sanders and donald trump sound exactly the same. >> in so many ways. >> on fund raising. i think that's resonated, especially with the young people out there who feel like they can chip in and buy a piece of something that they otherwise feel shut out of. on the trump thing, i'm fascinated by this rally with governor chris christie that they are essentially selling tickets to. 25 bucks if you're a student. otherwise, $200 per person. it's a fund-raiser, but it's really uncommon. i've never seen anything like this, really. >> it certainly is questionable. the campaign came out and made sure with another statement saying that it wasn't for donald trump's campaign, but rather to raise money for his friend, chris christie. but here's what trump can't control through all this, the impact of super pacs.
you remember when he disavowed the super pacs that popped up to support him. there's more coming up now. if they want to raise money for donald trump, they can do that. >> on super pacs, i think we're learning so much this election cycle about the lack of power of super pacs. >> compared to four years ago. >> just ask jeb bush. >> people have come away with the idea of money in politics is not necessarily as effective as it used to be. that could be a problem for the clintons. >> i think the thread is that we're seeing donald trump have to get a little bit closer to the establishment and yesterday that was on stark display when he met with paul ryan. and i thought one of the headlines and i'm curious to know what you think, katy, as someone who covers him every single day, there was this joint statement. we didn't anticipate there was going to be an endorsement, he didn't get one, but they took a tiny step forward toward unity. the two have such a wide gulf between them and hallie, you know this from talking to paul
ryan's office. but paul ryan doesn't agree with him on his muslim ban, on immigration, on entitlements, on abortion. there's so many issues where the two men don't have any common ground. >> so how do they find it? that's the question. conservative principles. the ryan world wants to know that donald trump is where the rest of the conservative party, where the rest of the republican party is on some of these broad issues. we know that in this conversations sources tell us they talked about entitlement reforms. speaker ryan brought out the charts that he loves. >> right. >> they talked about pro-life issues, something that was important for ryan to discuss. i think overall, when you speak with people close with ryan, they want to make the point that he's in a difficult position. he wants to give cover to republicans down ballot to make sure those in vulnerable races are able to be in a strong position, but at the same time, show there's party unity. he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. >> and i think that's true of
the broader republican party and i was just at clinton's headquarters talking to them about this, the question is whether or not donald trump in the end will turn out to be this toxic piece that republicans just can't get away from, or if he's going to actually change the map and we are going to end up with a really close election. i think there's going to be a divide among the republicans and i think you're seeing this. i just don't think the news cycles are going to permit them enough time to grapple with being apart from donald trump before they're able to answer that question. >> and the disparity of what happens behind closed doors and what happens on the stump. a lot of times, people say, the way he is privately is very different than the donald trump that you've seen with the crowds. >> the question for the republican party is, is donald trump a bulldozer or a bully? if he can bulldoze his way into the white house, everyone's going to be happier and they'll
have get out of the way. if he's just a bully who beats people up but doesn't actually have the goods to deliver, then that's a different equation. and paul ryan is making that decision right now, and he's doing it in a way unlike most of people in the republican party. he's using leverage to slow the bulldozer down and try to figure out if they can make a deal. >> on the subject of who is donald trump, we can talk about that for a while, but the news out today, "the washington post" reported a 1991 audio tape where somebody named john miller is speaking to "people" magazine. >> whoever could that be? >> tell me who you think this sounds like. >> no marriage and he's starting to do tremendously well financially. so he got his licenses five to nothing the other day and totally unanimous. he's been working hard and doing well. >> so what is going to happen
when -- is she being asked to leave or is she going to be allowed to stay? >> well, he treats everybody well, you know, you don't know him, but he's a -- >> no, i have met him. >> have you met him? he's a good guy and he's not going to hurt anybody. >> so he's saying john miller was speaking about trump's break-up with his first wife and the new relationship with marla maples and about whether there are affairs. but john miller sounds a little bit like someone we know. >> and he was asked about this, it's not me. i asked sean spicer of the rnc about this, he said he takes trump at his word. >> he's previously admitted to it. >> and marla maples burst into tears when she heard him say that. >> donald trump has admitted to sometimes using fake names, as a
pr person for himself. somebody named john barren, also john miller. so he's admitted this, but this morning on the "today" show, he flatly denied it. take a listen. >> are you aware of the tape? is it you? >> no, i don't think it -- i don't know anything about it. you're telling me about it for the first time and it doesn't sound like my voice at all. i have many people that are trying to imitate my voice and you can imagine that. this sounds like one of the many scams. and let's get on to more current subjects. i know it's wonderful for your listeners, but i think we have more important things to discuss. >> here's the thing. i think he gets away with this stuff because people don't necessarily care what he did in his past. >> people, meaning the voters. >> people, meaning you. >> people are frustrated. >> people and humans who vote. >> as opposed to the media, right? [ all speak at once ] [ laughter ] >> i'm not counting on an invite
back. >> i'm sure you've seen that with the candidates. they're frustrated with washington and they don't care if somebody has got an unusual, let's put it nicely, path, because they want someone completely different. they're so frustrated with this idea of a rigged system, that they don't trust the media to expose him on it, because they kinda feel like we're part of the problem. >> and donald trump knows that. i mean, he gets that. >> exactly. >> my question, though, is this going to change in a general election? think about the last six months, it was almost playing whack-a-mole for donald trump, always a new story line, a new person to go after. and the media was fascinated by, oh, my god, this guy is the republican front-runner and nobody expected that. now he'll be in a six-month slog against hillary clinton, where every time he brings up something like this, it's going to be the topic of the day. i just wonder if that's going to be a -- >> but the more you attack him, the stronger he gets. >> but i think for his
supporters that works. the question is, does it work with swing voters, with suburban women who he's got to try to win over if he's going to win the white house? >> i love this story, i love the idea of him on the phone, pretending to be someone else, but it doesn't tell voters anything they didn't already know about donald trump. >> absolutely. >> he plays roles. he is goofy. he has a persona. some people love it, some people don't like it, but there's nothing new here and i think real scandals that can affect a general election are things that expose and we have two nominees who are overexposed. >> we know that about trump. he's admitted in a small room, having a private conversation, he's a different person than when he is at this rally, being this showman, this performer that he can be. so people know that he can put on different hats, depending on the audience. >> and with that, ari melber, thank you very much for joining the "road warriors" roundtable. up next, we'll replace ari with steve kornacki, talk donald
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yeah, it was a suggestion. look, anything i say right now, i'm not the president. everything's a suggestion. no matter what you say, it's a suggestion. >> hi, welcome back to "road warriors." joined by steve kornacki now. donald trump saying that it's just suggestions. these aren't proposals, necessarily. these are suggestions for what he might do as president. how are we supposed to take that? should we be surprised to hear that from him? >> i'm not surprised. we anticipated this is what
would happen when he got close to the general election and that's what's happening. i think what we're seeing from the clinton campaign, they're trying to nail him down on his original statements. and they're saying, hey, wait a minute, when is what he said about muslims, this is what he said about taxes. the question is, will that work for them? will he be able to shift to the center? >> when i've been talking in privacy conversations with a number of the people close to trump, they're said over and over again, the primary was him setting the stage, in his opening arguments, in the the beginning of a negotiation, if you will. and they always expected him to move away from the harder social issues and turn towards some of the more economic issues that are more in his wheel house, stuff like trade. and so i'm certainly not surprised by it. i think that maybe some of the voters in the more conservative states might be a little bit surprised by it. but then again, i think they like his personality more than they like anything else. so there's -- [ all speak at once ] >> "the new york times" interviewed somebody who said,
he could shoot my dog, and i will still vote for him. the only thing he could do was shoot her daughter and then she wouldn't vote for him. >> i covered mitt romney in 2012, who got tagged very early on as a flip flopper. one of his campaigns said we're going to etcha sketch this and it was a huge gaffe. for donald trump, the thing about that, it played into a preexisting perception that voters were already to believe. i think voters' perception of donald trump is that he's this strong character that they already understand and i don't think that he's going to face that same kind of scrutiny on that particular question. >> interesting we're talking about romney, because he's back in the news this week, tweeting about this bombshell that is hiding in donald trump's taxes somewhere. >> didn't he already do that when he were in texas for the houston debates? >> they've been talking about this for a while. you've heard whispers, why isn't trump releasing his taxes?
he said not until the audit is completely, maybe tomorrow, maybe in determine. the irs has said, he can release them anytime, nothing is stopping him. now he's coming under pressure from some quarters. i spoke with mike kelly who supports donald trump. should he release his taxes opiniand he said, that's a decision for donald trump to make. >> and i asked sean spicer the same question. take a look. >> he said it over and over again, release them. >> but he's talking about transparency, doesn't he need to release his tax returns? >> at the end of the day, it's up to each individual candidate whether or not they release them or not. the only reason hillary clinton ever released anything, they were under investigation from white water. >> she raises the point and has released 33 years of tax return and we're waiting on his tax return. >> hold on. this was not something they did voluntarily in the name of
transparen transparency. they were being hounded about the white water deal and to prove some of the charges against them. but at the end of the day, every candidate, hillary clinton, donald trump, has filed a disclosure form with the federal election commission. >> is this a political problem with him? >> with donald trump, the standard rule is, yeah, you can't withhold this stuff. if you withhold it, it looks like you're hiding it. we saw with mitt romney in 2012 how much damage was done by that whole song and dance. but again, with donald trump, i think we see over and over again, the normal rules, normal political gravity doesn't necessarily -- i mean, you were talking about etch a sketch, when romney and the campaign said etch a sketch, it was devastating. trump's been walking around, talking about how he's a negotiator, telling everybody that everything he does is an opening bid. he's basically been saying for the whole campaign it's subject to change. what i say today may not be what i say tomorrow. so he's bought himself wiggle room that no other candidate's had before. >> and my question too, what is it in there they are concerned
about? with romney, it was this issue, he was perceived as this out of touch billionaire. trump has sold himself as the blue collar billionaire. so the question is, what else is in there? is it foreign affiliations, there's all kinds of questions that people like mitt romney and others have raised. but from a political perspective, this could be a problem for the republican party, because as long as it's out there, every republican is going to get asked about this. and you're seeing people on defense about it, when you look at trump at the top of the ticket, when you look at the meetings held this week. you saw the democrats come out already, the white house weighing in on this, tying these senators in these meetings to donald trump. and especially vulnerable senators like rob portman and ohio. we hearing from aides about how you plan to fight against. take a cue from paul ryan, if you will. ryan has said, we're a big tent party, we can have different
stances on issues where they're far part, the muslim ban, trade. but we can still be under the same big tent. so will that be an effective way to reach voters in pennsylvania or ohio, we'll see. >> what i found so interesting from the meetings yesterday, some of them said, look, we're not going to be able to embrace you as we run for re-election, and donald trump said, hey, i understand that. >> that was when this whole thing was going on, and ted cruz was going through that, oh, i think he's a horrible person, he's done terrible things to my family, yes, i'll still support him. i don't think this bothers trump. if the down-ballot candidates think trump is an albatross, they got to really separate themselves. that means repudiate. and i don't see them doing that. so in a way, they're going to be tied to him no matter what they say. >> so he's vulnerable. >> think of kelly ayotte in new hampshire, she's a
quintessential vulnerable senator. swing state, if trump says something, it could be trouble. but who won her state in the primary? donald trump by 2-1 over the nearest competitor. so if you repudiate him for the general election audience, you could lose the base. if you stick with the base, you could lose the general election. >> and one of the things we're going to be seeing here is a reorganizing the senate math, the way we may see different states in play. maybe different for pat toomey in pennsylvania, if working class white voters come out for donald trump, it could be easier for him to embrace him. but think about john mccain in arizona, with this increasing latino vote. it was thought his seat was safe and he's going to have real trouble distancing himself from donald trump, because that base of the gop, they're already angry with him. they've been trying to primary him out of office forever and it hasn't worked, but he can't alienate them and still figure out how to embrace -- >> that has got to drive mccain crazy. the guy gets up there and
ridicules him for being a war hero and he has to sit there and say, yes, i support -- >> and he's getting zero backup from his best friend in the senate, lindsey graham. >> lindsey graham can say what john mccain can't say right now. >> trump and lindsey graham had a phone call. my brain almost exploded. >> just goes to show you how every single day there's a new unexpected twist and turn. and lindsey graham said trump's questions were good questions. >> and back to your point over the pactaxes, this is going to a big issue for all the candidates. they'll have to answer questions about this, the clinton campaign is doing what you just said, they're just raising the question. they don't have an answer. and the question, and that open question is sort of enough to raise a cloud of -- >> although, i think hillary clinton's left some -- if you're a republican and you want to have to defend trump and you want an opening to do it politically, say i don't know about that, but hillary clinton hasn't released her wall street speeches yet. >> absolutely. >> she's giving them something
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>> skret secretary clinton said donald trump is making you look bad. secretary clinton, donald trump said bernie sanders is making you look bad. do you have a reaction? >> hello, mrs. clinton, how are you? >> that was me trying to get an answer out of hillary clinton in a very noisy campaign, earlier this week. and of course bernie sanders had a big win earlier this week. and he's gotten some new momentum, kasie. and a lot of people are wondering why she can't lock up this nomination. >> and it's interesting that she's gone back into kentucky so aggressively in the way she has.
they had pulled their ad money off the air and they're back up this week. she's going to be there sunday and monday. a state like kentucky, the couple minut clintons have put so much into kentucky. alison grimes, someone she want supported in her senate race. so i think it would be a blow for her to lose. >> what about losing west virginia for them? she won it so decisively last cycle. how do they feel about that? >> well, i think they were bracing for a loss there. first of all, she made those comments about putting coal miners out of work. she later said she regretted that. she acknowledged that it was -- >> yeah. >> that resonated. the reality, though, in west virginia is that president obama is just not that popular there. he lost back in 2008, and she's embraced president obama quite a bit in this campaign. so a lot of people link her to president obama. but, look, i think what you're seeing is this major shift in
strategy in the wake of west virginia. there was this realization that she wants to win some of these states so that she heads into the convention on a stronger footing, and right now, bernie sanders is on a little bit of a winning streak. >> how does that play into it? that bernie sanders is coming off a bit of a hot streak, feeling good, got momentum, mt. rushmore, doing his thing. how does that impact the momentum between the two? >> i think that's the concern if you're the clinton campaign. momentum is an unpredictable thing. you can feel like the fundamentals are good and strong. i remember covering back in 2012, this happened to the romney campaign, for example, they thought that they were going to be able to sweep through things, lost three states in a day and it had the effect of stretching out the primary campaign, they lost all this money. so i think they are confident this race is going to end up where they know it will be with her, as the nominee, but i think there are some variables still at play. and in politics, you never know and it's too much of a risk to let it go. >> and now it's a republican
talking point. >> that's right. >> the republicans sewed up their nomination process before the democrats did, even with this 17-person field, with donald trump at the top of it. >> well, and to that point, bernie sanders is getting a lot of tough questions about, is he not giving fodder to donald trump. he's coming under pressure from democrats to get out of the race. andrea mitchell asked him about all of this earlier this week. take a look. >> we have been fighting an uphill battle from day one. but if we do very, very well, we still have the possibility of coming in with a majority of pledged delegates. we've had to take on senators and governors and mayors and members of congress. that's what we have taken on. so please do not moan to me about hillary clinton's problems. >> moan to me. >> very defiant there. and of course his strategy is, look, if he gets enough wins, he can start to convince some of the super delegates to change course, to come over to his side. but that's difficult to do. >> well, i think you heard in his voice there, part of what's
driving him to stay in this race, which is, you can't overestimate the degree to which bernie sanders campaign is driven by bernie sanders himself. and he very much feels the quickest way to make him angry at you is to suggest that he should be getting out of this race. >> right. >> feel like a broken record in saying that. >> it's true. >> but it's a question he keeps getting. >> right. >> and i think you heard it there -- >> everyone, all they say, donald trump is going up against hillary clinton, hillary clinton is going to be the nominee. this is the campaign donald trump is going to be facing, that's got to drive bernie sanders and his campaign crazy when he watches the news. >> it does. and they believe it's one of the reasons why they haven't been able to catch up to her. >> if he can't get enough super delegates to come around, we're aiming for a platform fight at the convention? >> i think that's the goal. when you hear from a lot of democrats, he's going to be critical to unifying the party at the end. he's going to be the one voice to help to rally some of the
younger voters around hillary clinton, and that's going to be key if she does win the general election. she needs those younger voters, she needs the obama coalition to turn out, essentially. >> my sense is, there's growing pressure even from people who support bernie sanders, people volunteered for him, people inside his campaign are pushing him to do something that's specifically aimed at making sure that donald trump doesn't become president. that while they believe in him, they're at the point where they believe hillary clinton is probably the answer to stopping trump, and that if sanders can turn his attention toward that. i will say, i'm interested to see how she's going to motivate young voters. that still seems to me to be a missing piece. >> agreed. it's going to be a challenge for her. i think president obama is going to be key to that. he's excited to get on the campaign trail. we saw a glimpse of that at the white house correspondents dinner. he had some ammunition there ready to go. but he said he won't endorse until this is over. >> and i wonder if that's not the effect, more than anything else that bernie sanders is
having right now as clnlt tries to turn trump. maybe they don't want to deploy him until later, but that's still the effect right now. >> in the meantime, donald trump is continuing to go after hillary clinton. bernie sanders here and there, but mostly holding fire for hillary clinton. we caught up, specifically kasie, to talk about the woman card. we'll have tony dokoupil join us to talk about the man card. stay tuned.
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else. sick of it. >> so trump's playing the man card and you want to be dealt in? >> i'm in, yeah, absolutely. >> a small taste of some of the interviews. i talked with women voters earlier this week, republican women voters and tony dokoupil who joins us to play the man card, talked with male voters. welcome, tony. >> the five men i talked to are not paired off with the five women you talked to. >> different states. >> your girls were in virginia. i was in north carolina and i went down there not looking for the man card, but hoping to get some clarity on what men think when they hear donald trump talk about hillary clinton's actions in the '90s, how she responded to bill's misdeeds and sexual misadventures. they brought up the man card. they didn't want to talk about hillary. they wanted to talk about donald and how he projects masculinity, bullying, and calling his opponents little this and run home to mommy that. and that was a turn-off for two
of the people, but the other three were ra ra, i love it. >> do they feel like in their personal life they don't get to use the man card as much as they want? >> i think they are probably picking up on some changes in society over the last 30 years. women are shoulder to shoulder with men in a way they were not when they were growing up and i think it contributes to a sense of resentment and what's really fascinating and depressing for hillary clinton here, they win oo when red lines and trump how he talks about women, they acknowledge that it's not nice, not respectful. but they believe in their heart of hearts, and his heart of hearts, they respect women. >> was there any issue, was there anything about what donald trump said that made them step back and say, i'm not sure if i could support him? >> zero. 100%. two of the three trump voters had never voted before and were energized to vote because of
donald trump, because of his posture, masculinity. >> that's the challenge for hillary clinton. i will say, i talked to the republican women, we went looking for republican women to get a sense of whether any of them would vote for hillary clinton. we found two who were. i showed them a web ad that compiled donald trump's least tasteful statements to howard stern and others over the years. i had assumed that everybody had their opinion about donald trump. they kind of knew what he brought to the table. but when i showed them that ad, there were expressions of shock. there were gasps. there was laughter. and it made me think that there is an opportunity, if somebody, likely not the clinton campaign, but maybe the super pac supporting her, if they can push that message, i think the voters might learn something behind it about -- [ all speak at once ] >> it matters a lot more for women. i was looking at some of the data going back 40 years,
approximately 16 million men have stopped pulling the lever. they used to vote, 72% used to go to vote on election day. now in the 60s and that's the margin of victory for some presidential candidates. >> and that's the demographic that donald trump is trying to draw back to the polls. when you look at the messaging on women, to your point, kasie, we saw a little bit of that from some of the stop trump folks, the last month, the month before that started to try to target him on that particular target, but it wasn't a concerted enough effort to do any damage. >> too little, too late. >> yeah. >> the trump campaign will try to captivate as many male white voters as they can, bring them to the polls. the question, are they going to be able to get enough of them to overtake potentially the women or the minority vote, and are they going to be able to successfully target white male voters in the democratic party who may not be so enthused by the idea of hillary clinton. >> i think one of the things that surprised a lot of people,
donald trump's opening foray this week was to go after bill clinton and his indiscretions. a lot of people thought, even republicans, why isn't he talking about policy? why isn't he focusing more on that? and yet, clearly got a lot of pickup. >> but here's the thing, the campaign and those that are close to him will say that he's going to start talking about policy, and the campaign frankly had a meeting with the rnc earlier this week, where they talked about all the opposition research that they have to hillary clinton and also the stuff they've rolled out and they're planning on rolling out. they do want to start trying to get away from the attacks against bill clinton, but they can tell him that. doesn't mean he's going to listen. they want him to talk about policy, but the easy thing to do on the campaign trail is to hit her for what gets the headlines and sound bites. >> and she's not engaging at all, and i think that can be debated about whether or not that can be an effective strategy. that's a discussion we had in the '90s, i've moved on.
>> the subject that should be discussed is when she does worse in online polls. they're more likely to say hillary clinton than when that voter is clicking a button anonymously. that's bad news for the clinton campaign, it suggests there's a gender bias, deep-seated within society that changes people's votes. there's lots of research. if you take two identical resumes, but one name on top is john, the other is jennifer, john gets better salary, more job offers. >> what did the people you were speaking to not like about hillary clinton? >> that's just it. they don't have an articulate, clear-headed point of view about why they're not going to vote with her. >> almost the way that people can't identify with trump what is it that you love. >> which makes this election fascinating. >> honorary road warrior, thank you. >> we'll take your man card off the table. [ laughter ] >> you're on the road at times. we're off and on the road. we'll be taking your questions
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fans, et cetera, what you wanted to know about how things are when we are on the road. and my -- the question that we got today that i have the strongest opinion about is, what is the best airport? >> i love this question. >> and why. >> i love it. >> we could do an entire hour on this question. >> we could. [ all speak at once ] >> so best and worst. the worst, i think the worst airport in america is dulles international airport in washington, d.c. >> it's up there. >> i fly home all the time, i will do anything to. >> sheehan: -- to avoid flying into there. on the flip side, i think it's reagan national, so close to the city, efficient, quick. >> they upgraded the food. >> the hummus place i ate at. >> the food places are the best. >> you know i eat two breakfasts
a day, i need a good breakfast. >> we all do. o'hair is the worst to connect through, but the food is excellent, tortas. >> so a perfect airport from my perspective is something that's accessible and has good food. i like des moines airport. >> tiny airports are the best. >> absolutely. you get in, get out. or any airport where you can get your nails done. >> i've never done that, that's a great idea. >> i always do that if i have time. >> i think they're upgrading. >> delta. >> but their food, their options in there. >> what's better? >> let's get to another question. >> like we said, we could keep going. >> did you do your airport? >> did i do my laundry? [ laughter ] i do want to talk about one of the questions i get a lot, which
is how does your laundry get done? do you dry clean everything or bring everything home? headline, hallie doesn't do her laundry. wears the same clothes over and over again. i don't know, god, i rotate. i've said this before, i rotate 17 different sweaters. i'm in a t-shirt today, i'm out of laundry. >> about you what you hope for is that you can stay at a hotel for 24 hours, so you can get your laundry done. once i was in dire straits in south carolina, i took my laundry to a laundromat between live shots. the people there thought i was crazy because i didn't have a hundred quarters with me. and they were the sweetest people in the world. they helped me to figure it all out and helped me to do my laundry, between live shots. when i came back, one woman had my laundry folded for me. >> that's so sweet. >> i was going to say, sometimes
my answer to laundry is shopping. >> in new york, the answer is shopping. >> although it's always better when there's a target. >> vegas has the best. >> this is a good question as well. from susan cox, do you get nervous before an interview? >> i get nervous before my "nightly news" live shots. >> but not before interviews? >> no. msnbc is okay. "nightly news," when you have to say three sentences -- >> perfectly. >> but if i just have to talk, i can just talk. >> but do you get nervous before an interview? particularly when you know you have to get it right, you have a limited amount of time. when we're interviewing these candidates, you have ten minutes, seven minutes, and a lot of times, you're getting the wrap at the end. >> the more time i have to prepare, the more nervous i am. i'm thinking through the questions and then i start to work myself up and worry about things, but if it's on the fly, like so often when we are on the
road, flying around behind these candidates and you're in a scrum or rope line or they give you a quick pull aside and you only have two minutes to figure out what to say, i get less nervous. >> sometimes you don't have time to get nervous. they'll just say, do you want a minute? you better be ready. >> i think donald trump wants you to be nervous. >> he's good at trying to make you nervous. but i find it, to go toe to toe with someone, it's fun. >> i get a little nervous sometimes, but i think the jitters keep you fresh. >> it's a good thing so that you don't say something that you might say in casual conversation. >> exactly. and we're going to go behind the scenes. "road warriors" right back after a quick break. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us,
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>> my desk? >> this is it. >> exactly. >> oh, shoot. >> you have a lot better way of using that. >> this has been my desk. >> how y'all doing? >> i just want to tell you, you need a car wash. >> there was a little bit more to that. what we were doing yesterday, we were in d.c., staking out donald trump at the rnc. and i was using somebody's car as a desk. actually, using a trash can as a desk because they took their car out. the great thing about a stakeout, and you guys know this, you have to try and guess where the candidate is going. >> right. >> and yesterday, we were trying to guess which way the cars were pointed, because i think there were one, two, three, four --
four or five ways he could have gotten out of the rnc. >> so did you get it right? >> never. so annoying, you're looking and then you see cnn go somewhere else. >> and you can't split yourself in half, but you want to. it helps if you can send your producer to one door, you go to another, the embed heads to a third. >> that's why i like bus tours, because you know the candidate has to get back on the bus. [ laughter ] >> but trump, he's got the secret service and you can't get close to him, you're hoping he stops the car and he talks. >> that makes a difference, the secret service. >> what's the strangest place you ever had to write a script? >> i think the hardest place that people probably don't realize, we write a lot of scripts while we're driving and flying and that creates all sorts of technical difficulties. you're losing connectivity and
also you have to sometimes deal with just not feeling that well when you're in a car and riding and working, but you're up against a deadline and you have to get your scripts done. >> hallie, what about you? >> on the ground, sitting on the floor in the park as you're just trying to get on your ipad. because you can take it anywhere, which is good. i get nauseous in the car, so i drive a lot, when we're going around and then my producer will sort of be helping me write. >> do you dictate? >> no. if i have to write, i'll switch and then like a, you know, whatever, figure it out. >> a pill. >> tracking too is tricky, where you're trying to voice over the script somewhere quiet. andrea mitchell has some great tracking stories. we should have her come on. >> i've been, i think it was an airport in greece maybe, or maybe an airport somewhere in france, and my producer out there, she was covering me in her coat and another coat, and
i'm trying to track into a make shift recording device, because we didn't have a tracking mike, and the airport announcements were going off and people were walking by in heels, and it was a complete and utter disaster. and they were looking at me like what is this american doing, yelling into her jacket in the middle of the airport? >> that's a very good point. airports are the toughest thing because everyone's looking at you like you're a crazy person and you typically have jackets over your head. >> in a post 9/11 world. >> once i went into a sports shop and said, i have to track. i took out my microphone, i need to voice my script. i said, do you mind if i do this into your jackets so there's not a lot of ambient noise? [ laughter ] >> and they just looked at me with amazement, like this is the strangest person we've ever seen. >> and the microphone is the thing that gets my bag pulled from tsa every time.
they always wonder what it is. >> one word to describe this last week, what would you say it would be? >>. >> oh, god. >> i mean, the alleyway comes to mind. >> trash can. >> stunning. >> pivotal, i think. >> that's a good one. guys, this was fun. >> it's always fun. for now, we'll toss it over to "meet the press daily." this is it from your "road warriors" team. we'll see you next time we're all back in one place off the campaign trail. thanks for joining us. ♪ if it's friday, it's the week that proved donald trump is the boss of the republican party. and that speaker ryan's push for unity may be even farther along than he realizes. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. ♪