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>> i don't know. >> one word. macarena. >> it's a great story about jim jones about why some of the biggest unions are not taking sides in the democratic race. >> coming up, hardball with chris matthews. trash talk. let's play "hardball." >> for weeks donald trump has been totaling the clinton like a pair of used cars. now he's smashing them with an even harder suspicion called the circumstances surrounding it very fishy.
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vince foster had intimate knowledge of what was going on and he committed suicide. i don't know enough to discuss it. i will say there's people who continue to bring it up because they think it was a murder. i don't do that because i don't think it's fair. that's trump talking. a federal investigation involved lawyers, physicians and fbi agents and interviews with 125 witnesses concludesed foster's death was a suicide. this was the latest salvo from trump. let's watch. >> she's married to man who was the worst abuser of women in the history of politics. she's married to a man who hurt many women and hillary, if you look and see a study, hillary, hurt many women. the women that he abused. she was an unbelievably, nasty,
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mean, enabler and what she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful. >> no one should be subjected to it. it was an assault. >> he start unbuttoning my top. i try to pull away from him. >> in the past trump has spoken generously of the clintons. he's called the former president fantastic and his impeachment nonsense. here he is with me back in 1998. >> bill clinton, what's he need to do? >> well, i don't know. it's so embarrassing. you really have to say where does it stop. i really like this guy. you really have to say where does it stop? why do they keep revealing the details? he has sex and now they have to talk about the kind, where it was, on the desk, offer the desk. it's out of touch. paula jones is a loser.
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she may be responsible for bringing down a president indirectly. the statement is proven to be false. >> which statement? >> paula jones in the deposition. i'm not sure he shouldn't have gone and taken the fifth amendment. just taken the fifth amendment. it's a terrible thing for a president to take the fifth amendment but he probably should have done it. i don't think he could have done any worse that's what's happening. star has taken something from nothing. it's got to stop. >> joy, let's talk about why trump says things if he put some thought into saying it. he was asked about this by robert costa. he didn't bring it up. when it was brought up about vince faster and how he died, he jumped on the theory of the hard right argument that vince foster
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was killed. >> i sometimes picture donald trump sitting up in his apartment main lining in alex jones videos and walking out and regurgitating the conspiracy theory figure. he's trying to make sure if the washington post will report on his on past scandals that he wants to get in there negative information about the clintons too. he needs for them to delve into this. >> what do you think? i don't know. i have a theory. all hear all three of yours about why he does this why he makes vicious attacks that cruz had manager to do with killing kennedy.
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he jumps on any theory out there. how is it to his advantage? >> that's the reality tv portion of our program. that's something that feeds the masses and has fed the masses that have come into trump world going back some 10, 15 years now. there is that piece of it that he is consistently using because it works. it's an attention grabber. it's leading the news. it's going to be in the front page tomorrow. that piece is there. i think part of what joy said is also part of the mix. putting the sand bags out and saying if you want to come after me, come after me, but i'm bringing some folks with me. that will be bill and hillary clinton. the third piece is drawing the clintons out. he wants to let hillary clinton though this will not be easy.
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>> i want to get to some more tape from trump. some of it is consistent. some of it. a lot is not. assuming poor vince foster from the grave. why did he just say i pass to robert costa? i don't talk about that. >> if we have a contest, which looks like we'll have between two candidates that are both very unpopular, we're going to have a campaign where each tries to make the other unacceptable than they are. i don't think this is the last time. >> they are murders. it's the worst charge. >> also, when you raise the issues of mistreatment of women, i think it's an attempt to moderate or minimize hillary clinton's big advantage among women voters. make it doesn't make women voters want to vote for donald trump but make some women voters think twice about voting for
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hillary clinton. i think there's a voter strategy involved with some of this. >> when i interviewed trump in '98, he had far more praise for clinton then. here is what he said about the economy back then. let's watch. >> i think it's the best thing he has going is the economy is doing great. they talked about the '80s are good and the '90s are much better. the economy, i don't think, has ever been better. it's very minor. relatively speaking. it's very strong. >> at that time, trump said he would have a hrd time running for president given what he referenced as his past with women. let's watch. >> did you ever have a flicker when taking a shower or walking to work you say you've run every battle you've fought, why don't you run for governor or president? >> people ask me all the time.
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how about me with the women. >> michael, there he is chuckling about his swordsmanship, if you will. i don't know if he wants that one thrown around. maybe he does. >> he's consistent. talk about controversial. hello. talk about me with the women. hello. i think he knows himself well enough to know. that's something that people like about him. he doesn't hide from that stuff. he's not trying to mask it or put a bushel basket over it. >> except for the fact the one real vulnerability to donald trump, throwing negative information about the things he's said and done doesn't work to destabilize his support. the idea he's a phony. >> where is that in here in. >> all democrats have to unearth that of him saying the opposite.
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>> if he's saying the clintons are evil, he's saying -- >> he wasn't running against them then. >> it doesn't make a difference. it looks purely political and looks like it wasn't his authentic thoughts. >> did can you ever see two guy, two members of congress next door, they get redistricted and have to run against it. they don't like each other. it doesn't help to look like a phony. >> for his audience this is the one vulnerability that he's a phony. >> last night trump defended bringing up clinton's past.
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here he is defending the fact he's throwing mud. >> they have been nasty. she's been very nasty. i don't like doing that but i have no choice. when she hits me, i have to choice. you have to do it. it's unfair. they're dirty players. they have been dirty historically and i have to fight back the way i have to fight back. >> he looks a little different. i look about the same. i'm not very happy with these tapes. what do you make of this i have a right to do tit for tat. they're not coming at him as viciously as he's counter attacking. nobody has called him a murder. >> it's pretty preemptive. it's a warning shot they better not attack him for whatever is in his past. he's got all this ammunition that he will use back at them. i think a lot of this is an attempt to get under their skin and get them to respond and get them off message. one of the hardest things the
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clinton campaign has is to get their message through. it makes it harder for clinton to do that. >> let me follow to your point. if you look at numbers that we have came out with, clearly one ofrts probl of the problems she faces is the old likeability thing. it's hard to have a charm offensive. it puts her in the backseat of an argument. how do you win that? i'm innocent but also kind of likable. >> you can't be in a discussion about whether or not you murdered vince foster and make any progress. you have to put that aside and talk about your issues. >> it's absurdity. there's something about trump's ability to launch these grenades. >> the last thing i want to say
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is the problem is it's not additive. it helps with people who already hate the clintons and will vote for him. at some point he has to do something that involves addition. >> he's running even with hillary clinton with his tact s tactics. >> are you willing to bet against him getting the 50? >> i am. i actually am. >> thank you. i laugh about this because it is absurd. thank you. the clintons had nothing to do with bernie sanders being the candidate against them but nothing to do with vince foster dying. it was a tragedy of the worst kind. if you study the case, you know what happened to the guy. bernie sanders wants a recount in kentucky. he says the convention will be messy. why does he fight aggressively knowing he can't catch clinton. bill cosby will stand trial. we have the latest on the case
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and what to expect from his trial. the clinton campaign is pushing something trump said in 2006 when he talks about the money he'll make from the collapse of the housing market. that's another problem for him. the hardball round table is here to talk about whether any of his past quotes will stick hard to him. this is hardball, the place for politics. it's not how fast you mow, it's how well you mow fast. it's not how fast you mow, (both) it's how well you mow fast. it's how well you mow fast. (team cheers) it's how wl you mow fast. even if it doesn't catch on, doesn't mean it's not true. the john deere ztrak z535m with our reengineered deck to mow faster better. visit your john deere dealer to save 300 dollars on
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hillary clinton has turned her focus to donald trump. bernie sanders refuses to give
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up. now he predicts the convention will be messy. that's what he told the associated press yesterday. >> if they make the right choice and open the doors to working class people and young people create the what the democratic party needs, it's going to be messy. democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle. that is where the democratic party should go. >> you think the convention could be messy? >> every day my life is messy. if you want everything to be quiet and orderly and allow just things to proceeds without vigorous debate, that's not what democracy is about. >> he asked to clarify what he meant. >> messy means the media takes words out of context. the context of that was that democracy is messy. that people will have vigorous
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debate on the issues. >> will the convention be messy? >> of course it will be. that's what democracy is about. >> how can you argue this primary battle is not hurting her in a general election? >> first of all, i guess if we take your assumption and clinton supporters that the logical conclusion, you know what we should do, we should not have any elections at all, not any debates at all. why don't we appoint somebody to become our king or president. >> is he sitting up in a tree. i've never seen him look so much taller than kristen welker. they requested a recanvass. is he that tall? he was looming over you. just kidding.
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>> the reality is i'm not that tall. >> what do you make? what would be a good word to throw back to him, what he said was nonviolent. a lot of people would say that's careful there. he says messy doesn't really mean bad. you wonder what his definitions really mean about combustion. >> he means he's gearing up for a very vigorous debate. he's prepared to go to the mat over issues like universal health care, the minimum wage, free college tuition. all these issues he's been debating with hillary clinton about. we learned the dnc will give him a very big role in shaping the platform. what he is saying is this is not just going to be for optics. i'm really going there to make my policies a priority at this convention. i think you pointed out the fact he's calling for a review of
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kentucky. he wants to go with as many delegates as possible. that's why he's fighting so hard in california. it's going to be tough to win the nomination. if he wins a state this big, he'll have more leverage heading into that convention. >> i think he's going to the t mattresses. he's going to be tough. you were pretty critical. he has convinced himself he's the face and voice of a revolution. if you're running a revolution it's difficult to head back to the green mountains. he does act as if the scoreboard is some great big lie even when the numbers are up there for everybody to see. i agree with your column. i don't think he's operating in the same world that hillary clinton and the objective journalists are. >> he keeps saying that the system is rigged. he makes it sound like they changed the rules of baseball on
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him in the fifth inning and they went to four outs and four strikes. did he not know what the rules of engagement were before he decided to run for president of the united states. chris, this isn't about his character or his ideals or vision of america. this is about the reality of what's going on. nobody is stealing this from him. when he talks about a messy convention, does it only get messy because he's not going to get the resolution that he wants. >> i wonder about the vatican. it was more than a mess. >> it was violent. >> it was scary out there. >> people like senator boxer felt physically threatened. that's not a joke. hen he says messy, i wonder where his lawn is draine is dra. >> i think mike's column lays out clearly where all americans are. if he's serious about beating
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donald trump, this is not helping. three. i get a little unnerved at times. i'm more of a moderate liberal democratic. some take us as not being aggressive and progressive as they are as if they have a monopoly on the democratic party. i think at some point this line here is probably what's going to bring an end to this campaign. a call for almost a messiness and a violence like what we saw in nevada. if that's what he is looking for in nevada, they will say you have raised an important race and addressed the issues. you'll have an opportunity to make the case but we have to move on because we have a serious opponent on the republican side if he wins will undo what barack obama has done. we cannot risk that. >> let's talk about how he puts the breaks on. how does he put the breaks on at the speed he's going because he's promising free college tuition? how does he back down for that?
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lifetime health care. how do you pull back from that? huge increase in social security. he goes into that drafting committee and how does he come out of it and say i've done a great job here and moved the party to the left and can turn it over to hillary. how does he do that running at this speed? >> i think that's the huge challenge for him right now. you can also feel that the campaign is trying to figure it out. they have come this far. so many people feel as though he has run a great campaign. how does he land this plane in a way that does speak to the desires of all of his supporters and allows them to get behind hillary clinton. that's not his top prpriority. it's making sure the policies get into the democratic platform. i think compromise will be a big word. hillary clinton has to walk a fine line. she can't go too far to the left in a general election against donald trump.
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she's been pretty clear that she's not going to adopt all of his policy positions. there's going to have to be a lot of compromise involved in that. i asked him, is he calling for his supporters to protest if he doesn't get what he wants at the convention. he sort of sidestepped that question and said i feel confident that we will be able to reach some agreement. i think that is what he's doing to be looking for. maybe not all of those policy positions that you just mapped out but a few of those and he's really the lynch pin to rally those younger voters. a lot of them saying they will not support secretary clinton in a general election. >> you're reading all this in venezuela, they claim voter fraud. there's never an election where the loser doesn't say claim voter fraud. when they win they arrest the person who lost the election and throw them this jail. they hang them.
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you listen to trump and burr kn -- bernie sanders, it's beginning to sound like a third world count country. when is the last time you heard a decent concession speech from bernie sanders or trump. why doesn't anybody do that anymore? we lost. >> chris, there's also this conceit here. believe me, i can see how passionate senator sanders followers are. only people the voting for him matter in this election. i have a feeling that the guys who want trump to win, they think the same way. i keep asking this, what's the end game here. you keep hearing all this third party talk. doesn't it seem that bernie sanders is running a third party campaign already? >> yeah. >> the big difference between trump and sanders, at least trump got enough delegates to
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make the case. the scoreboard is clear on trump's part. >> he's already in another party. it could be fairly convenient to run a third party candidate. i don't think he will. it's so difficult to run and you end up picking up 7 or 20 of some votes. all you do is hurt your side of the spectrum. we have seen it a hundred times. thank you all. up next, bill cosby back in court. we'll get a report on cosby's appearance as he heads to trial on sex assault charges. this is hardball, the place for politics. as you'll see, when shoppers add an item to their jet carts, they automatically shrink the prices of millions of other products. very impressive. whoo, it's got a little kick to it. sorry, i can't hear you?? nice shirt craig. at, we always find innovative ways to save. get 15 percent off your first order.
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his 2013 campaign accepted illegal donationdonations. the u.s. smoking rate has fallen to a historic low of 15%. the u.s. smoking rate was roughly 42% 50 years ago. back to hardball. welcome back. today a judge in pennsylvania ruled that bill cosby will stand trial for sexual assault charges. former temple university employee alleges that cosby gave her pills before assaulting her back in 2004. she's one of more than 50 women who have made sexual assault allegations against the 78-year-old comedian. tell us what happened today regarding this case. >> good evening. there's enough evidence that bill cosby committed a crime for this case to go forward. in a nutshell, that is it.
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the significance is this, of the 50 or so women who have accused him over a period of decades of some type of sexual misconduct, this is the first time he's going to face trial on criminal charges and could go to prison if convicted. at this point they have not set a trial date. today's hearing focused on the police report filed by the accuser who said that bill cosby gave her pills that made her feel woozy and after that she could not stop his unwanted sexual advances. this was not the face-to-face confrontation that many people thought would happen here. andrea was not in court. the judge said that she did not have to be in court because the burden of proof was lower for this preliminary hearing than it would be for a trial. cosby's attorneys have tried to get this thrown out of court for the last five or six months without success. the judge, today, did set the arraignment for july 20th. before he left here today, he
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waived his right to appear at the july 20th hearing. this now sets the stage for a trial later this year. >> thank you very much. now let's bring in criminal defense attorney midwin charles. >> hi. >> we all think we know the guy. i guess we don't. he looks like he's blind. could that be a plea at some point where his physical impairment, he can't stand trial or be in prison. see him holding on to the guy walking around there? >> not so much he can't stand trial which is more of a mental capacity standard which doesn't exist her but when it comes to advocating for leniency should he be convicted then yeah, it will come into play. i think the optics are great for that. when he showed up, he was limping at one point and had a more younger junior escorting him to give this appearance this
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is someone who needs assistance and is sort of perhaps medically challenged. >> this is almost like a class action suit. 50 pictures of women of different ages who have made these cases. >> what is interesting is those 50 cases had relevance in the sense where the new prosecutor decided we should look at this again. when it comes to this trial, i think his defense attorneys will try really, really hard to prevent that information from coming in. >> how do you find a jury that hadn't read about this story? >> you won't. you find a jury who says it won't sway their decision. >> who are these people? you're laughing. we all use common sense outside the courtroom. if you've heard that smoke, you assume fire. >> not necessarily. there are a lot of people who
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believe that he should have his day in court and defend these allegations and he's entitled to a rigorous defense. i don't believe that every person believes he's guilty. >> he gets acquitted in this case. does he have to go through 49 other cases in. >> no, not at all. many of the cases are civil suits. they are defamation cases. they are not criminal charges. this is the only criminal charge he's facing. >> we'll probably have you back. this is just tragedy. up next, the past prelude. how trump's past comments square with the candidate of 2016. the hardball round table is coming here. you're watching hardball, the place for politics. looking for balance in your digestive system?
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hillary's a great friend of mine. her husband is a great friend of mine. they're fantastic people. you know the thing they get a bad knock. she's a very nice women. people think tough, tough. i guess she's stuff, but she's a very nice woman and she's a very nice guy. we know all about the smarts and how smart they are, but they are good people. >> don't you love video tape. welcome back to hardball. that was donald trump back in october of 2008, not a million years ago. it's been a back to the future day as old interviews like that one are out there resurfacing all of a sudden. also, emerging today is an ad by the hillary clinton campaign where trump points to business opportunities when the housing
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bubble burst. it was titled how to build a fortune. let's listen. >> i sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy. if there is a bubble burst, as they call it, you know you can make a lot of money. >> well, meanwhile at a housing event in california, clinton reminded the crowd of what happened during the recession. >> donald trump said when he was talking about the possibility of a housing market crash before the great recession, he said i sort of hope that happens. he actually said that. he actually said he was hoping for the crash that caused hard working families in california and across america to lose their homes all because he thought he could take advantage of it to
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make some money for himself. >> trump responded in the following statement. i'm a businessman and i have made a lot of money in down markets in some cases as much as when markets are good. this is how to get a good result out of a very bad situation. politicians have no idea how to do this. they don't have a clue. that's trump talking. will any of these comments come back to haunt trump. joining me is howard fineman, michelle bernard and gabe sherman. we know the answer, don't we? it's like an old set of scriptures from ten million years ago and it's a few years ago. >> clearly, this is what trump supporters like. he's a businessman. hillary is playing into the core argument. >> being a sharpie, michelle, is what people are looking for. i see an opportunity on
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downside, i make some money. >> i think she was off target in the comments she made. i think she was probably going after the part of the women's vote that is sympathetic and would think to themselves how could you say something like that. it was bad when others said they wanted the president to fail. if you can't love america or want any aspect of america to fail. >> howard. >> if this is the quality, if that thing today from hillary about donald trump's record trading in the down market is as tough as they're going to get on his business record, then they're going to lose. that's not the way you go after -- if you want to go after donald trump's business record, you have to be specific, detailed. you have to go over a long period of time and build your case. you don't dallas/ft. worth -- do it by making the wrong argument. >> about who we thought were the better presidents. let's see how that oholds up no.
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>> of the four, who's the best? >> well -- >> bush 41, clinton or obama. >> i would say clinton, probably. i would have to say clinton. >> why? >> there was a little spirit. frankly, he would have been had he not met monica, paula, and various semibeautiful women, he would have had a much better deal going. >> what do you think about the fact he puts clinton at the top of the last four or five presidents? >> it's interesting because he's now anti-nafta and anti-trade and bill clinton was bushing all those things through. >> hillary is against all those things now. >> we're not talking about hillary. we're talking about donald trump. >> i'm going to do this for the next couple of days and weeks. throughout interviews he's
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talking about the psychology of effective leadership. he talks about it consistently. women are spirit. it's always getting back to the idea that he can create a enthusiasm for this country's future by the way he is. it's in there. a little peek at it there. >> i think -- his people like. >> he admired the animal clout of clinton. even though the women were only semi-beautiful. >> why does he have to do that? >> because that's donald trump. >> it makes him feel better about himself. >> my women are beautiful. his women are only semi-beautiful. this is a guy who responds as a street guy mentally at all times. that's who he is. anybody in his vision who gets in the way of him being the guy is going to get run over. this is both the attraction and the danger of donald trump.
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>> it's the old song, standing on the corner watching all the girls go by. >> he said bill clinton. if he said george w. bush, i don't think that would have been that helpful for the republican base at this point. the republican party has moved so far beyond the bush years that donald trump if he invoked bush, that might have been damaging. >> that might be one of the reasons he picked clinton as well in that interview to give another elbow to the bush brand. >> they have sort of devolved the republican party. he's made george bush look very sophisticated by any stretch of the imagination. >> i think it's amazing how we're going back to almost through scripts ago. we're going through the bible studies trying to find inconsistencies when we know they are there within the last
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two weeks. >> he's been in so many places over such a long period of time on the issues, there's certain core con sis ten consistencies on his attitude. people don't take any one of these statements seriously. he gets away with dominating the conversation via the lack of seriousness. >> let's try to really bad one. vince foster is not the first conspiracy theory that trump has given oxygen to. in the national enquirer that said without foundation that ted cruz' father was tied to lee harvey oswald who assassinated kennedy. let's watch. >> his father was with lee harvey oswald prior to him being shot. the whole thing is ridiculous. nobody even brings it up. they don't talk about that. that was reported. nobody talks about it. i think it's horrible. >> gabe, i got to stop there.
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i don't think it's much worse than saying that somebody killed the president. somebody's father killed the president not even running. that's the one i really jumped on trump for. i said this is wrong. there's no basis for saying it. then you're accusing this guy's father of murder who was an anti-castro guy. the facts are wrong around it. >> the litany of falsehoods and misstatements that trump has made from the beginning would have been disqualifying to anyone else. he famously said he would have to kill someone on the street in fifth avenue for his supporters to turn on him and even then they might not. these debates almost feel academic because we can poke holes in the statements. >> let's go back to the one that offended so many african-american people and that's birther. >> the weird bank shot where a
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white woman goes over to africa and names him barack obama that 35 years later he will run for president. it's looney tunes. >> he said it over and over. the thing i found so distasteful is the president at one point in time showed the world his birth certificate. it was horrible. if that is any picture, if he did that to barack obama, what will continue to come down the pike for hillary clinton -- >> guess who did that? barack obama. this is personal. he hadded to go through that. he had to show his papers like he was stopped by the cop. she me your paper laws. >> michelle put her finger on the way to go after trump, according to the smart democrats. he's dangerously crazy. i'm serious, chris. the conspiracy things are not tied to any provable reality.
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conspiracy theorist, the other guy who wants to be a conspiracy theories. >> you want messy, that's messy. >> so my thing is who would have known that justice roberts on the united states supreme court would be the first supreme court justice, conservative, to really come out on the right of african-americans. as you know, yesterday the united states supreme court reduced a conviction, turned around a conviction for an african-american man who was convicted of a pretty horrible crime. there was never an issue as to his innocence. he actually pled guilty. the whole issue in the case was the fact that the jury was rigged to knock off every single black person. >> all the challenges were race-based. >> all race-based. john roberts says doing that two times is two times too many. justice clarence thomas, the only african-american on the supreme court, says his biggest issue with the case is that the new evidence became public and now every person who is in jail is going to go out and look for
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evidence to proof their innocence. >> does the guy get another trial? >> no he's free. >> there's talk inside the trump campaign about when to deploy the bill clinton sex scandals. and there's thought of waiting for summer. but trump couldn't help himself. now here until election day he's going to keep talking about it, keeping the scandal alive. they think they have something no other campaign has had, a principal, the candidate himself, willing to make these allegations. prior to that it's done through surrogates, third parties. >> nobody else has tried it. >> he's doing it himself. >> thank you. when the we return, let me finish with what we can learn from trolling through the trump tapes. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them.
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let me finish with this. tonight we showed you bits of an interview i did with trump way back in 1998. it's a good question. what should we make of these things someone said a generation ago? times change, so do conditions. some something nice a guy says about a president 18 years ago negate something far less generous he said a week ago? he must have begun realizing when he reached the age of reason politicians say things to advance themselves, not necessarily to speak the truth. i've been looking over the transcripts of the many interviews i've conducting with trump over the past two decades and i've come across areas of
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intriguing consistency. matters where the building tycoon has exposed a trump approach to what we're seeing now from him. i'll show you them in the days ahead. what you'll find interesting is the man's continuing focus on the power of psychology in this country's national life. the key importance of boosting the country's morale, the importance of america having the spirit needed to prevail. other leading indicators, for example trump said if he ever ran for president he would rely significantly on programs like this where he could present himself both freely and not unfortunately for free. he once said something that's proven especially foresightful. trump said he would only run for president if he could see his way to victory. there would be no college tries or attempts at what some candidates might call moral victories. he intended to more than beat the spread, he intended to pick up all the marbles. i'll be showing this earlier donald trump, what's consistent with what we're getting now, what's not. we'll show you where he's coming from, that's more useful than hanging on his last word which history shows is not going to be
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his last word. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. join us at 11:00 p.m. eastern as we learn the results of the washington state republican primary. "all in with chris haste" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> if there is a bubble burst, as they call it, you know, you could make a lot of money. >> the new onslaught from hillary clinton. if donald trump wins, you lose. >> he actually said he was hoping for the crash that caused hard-working families in california and across america to lose their homes. >> tonight the latest clinton charge that trump rooted for a housing crash. as donald trump recycles attacks from the '90s. then the trial of a fallen american icon. the breaking news on today's big bill cosby decision. plus why donald trump is snapping at new questions over


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