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well, thank you very much, everybody. the folks behind me got us right over the top from north dakota. so north dakota made a big statement and i just really appreciate it. we will not forget it. thank you very much. i want to thank a very good friend of mine, harold hamm. i guess we can consider harold the king of energy. there's nobody like him. he knows more about it than
anybody that i know. harold, i want to thank you for your support. my friend for a long time. i've been on the cover of every magazine. i think he's had as many covers as i have. maybe more harold. congratulations and thank you very much for your support. yes, john? >> president obama today at the g7 summit in japan ignored the time honored tradition of politics ends at the water's edge -- [ inaudible ] -- becoming president -- >> that's good. i love that word. he used a bad word because he knows nothing about business. when you rattle someone, that's good. many of the countries in our world, our beautiful world, have been absolutely abusing us and taking advantage of us. if they're rattled in a friendly way, that's a good thing, john, not a bad thing. >> but he also went onto say --
ignorance of world affairs, cavalier attitude -- thinking about what's required to keep america safe. i'm wondering if you want to respond to that. >> look, he's a president who's done a horrible job. he's a president who's allowed many of these countries to totally take advantage of him and us unfortunately. he's got to say something. it's unusual. every time he has a press conference, he's talking about me. it's just one of those things. he is a man who shouldn't be really, you know, airing his difficulties and he shouldn't be airing what he's airing where he is right now. and i think that you're going to see it stop pretty soon. he has not done a good job. today we're giving a big speech on energy. we're going to see some amazing things happen with our country on energy, and i look forward to doing it. but president obama, you know, you see what's happened, you see where we're going, we're a divided country, we have tremendous difficulty,
tremendous problems. and we're going to solve those problems. we're going to solve them fast. yeah, go ahead. >> your campaign chairman today -- [ inaudible question ] -- probably unlikely that it would be a woman or minority -- >> no, i think it's likely that we would have somebody. but we don't do it for any specific reason. we're looking for absolute competence. i fully expect that we will have many women involved with not only -- i mean i've had it with the campaign. but we're going to have many women involved. and i think you're going to see that and you're going to see that very strongly. so i look forward to it. he's been misquoted actually a lot. we're going to have women involved at the absolute highest levels. >> mr. trump -- >> jeremy, go ahead. >> during the republican primary you repeatedly attacked your opponents for being funded by
big money donors. you've started that fundraising. how do you convince your supporters that you're not going to become the puppet -- >> well, i'm no puppet. and i'll tell you, i'm raising the money largely for the party. we intend to raise a lot of money for the party. i have no idea how much. but we're raising it for senators, congressmen, congress women. we want to go in and have majorities. it's very important. we have a tremendous staff of people. last night, actually, we raised in los angeles, we raised a lot of money for the party. this is money that's going into the rnc. and we are going to have, i think, a tremendous -- we're getting thanked all over by the republican senators, by congressmen. and hopefully we're going to raise a lot of money. this is money that's being raised for the party. and i think we're going to have a tremendous success. i'm also continuing to fund big portions of my campaign. go ahead.
>> mr. manafort was also quoted as saying if you did release your taxes -- [ inaudible ] -- you seem to sound as if you're not -- >> no, no, i'm releasing when we're finished with the audit. i have to say, the irs has been very professional. when they finish -- i've been audited however for 15 years. and i don't know of very many people that have been audited for 15 years. so i don't know what that's all about. but the irs has been very professional. as we move along, as soon as that's finished, hopefully it's going to be before the election. i'm fine with that. >> just to be very specific on this. you do pay some federal taxes. >> i do. yeah, i do. yes. david, go ahead. >> mr. trump, in the wake of yesterday's inspector general report -- hillary clinton's e-mails, you said you have doubts about whether or not she could stay in the race against
you. are you prepared to call on her to get out of the race so -- >> actually, i sort of like her in the race. i want to run against her. look, she has bad judgment. this was all bad judgment. probably illegal. we'll have to find out what the fbi says about it. but certainly it was bad judgment. i just read the report. it's devastating, the report. it's devastating. there's no reason for it. it's just skirting on the edge all the time. you look back at her history, and this is her history. it's a very, very harsh report. done really by democrats, if you think of it. appointed by obama and done by democrats. it's shocking to see it. it's shocking to see what she did. really, more than anything else, it's bad judgment. that's going to be up to her whether or not she wants to continue running. >> you talk a lot about -- >> right. [ inaudible question ]
>> this number now, does this change your approach a little? >> i think it will. i haven't yet, i think it will. i haven't had the support of the governor of new mexico. which is fine. that's everybody's right. i imagine she's come over to my side. if you look at what's happened, tremendous support from all over the country. senators, congressmen, we have governors all over the place. and vast majorities. i think the approval now is up to over 90%. that's tremendous from where i started. you know, a little while ago it was like 62%. but i won the elections in landslides. very important to say. you look at these elections. we go to new york. we win almost 62% of the vote with three people running. we then go to pennsylvania which is going to be a state we're going to do amazingly well. hillary clinton wants to put the coal miners out of business, put the steel mills out of business. i think i'm going to win
pennsylvania easily. we have tremendous support there. we win delaware, rhode island. then we win, as you know, a tremendous success when we went to indiana. that was incredible. bobby knight helped in all fairness. so we're going to have tremendous successes. but, you know, the thing i think i'm most proud of, not the fact that i'm watching hillary -- you know, we were supposed to be going into july and a lot of people said it wouldn't even be solved during that convention. there's going to be a new convention in august and here i am watching hillary fight and she can't close the deal. that should be such an easy deal to close. but she's unable to close the deal. so i'm watching her and we'll see what happens. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> oh, yeah, sure, absolutely. >> are you planning on recognizing china's sovereignty on a nation-to-nation basis
based on the u.n. declaration -- [ inaudible ] -- >> i'm going to have to look at it individually and i will be doing that. i will be doing that. thank you. katy? >> what was your message to republicans who haven't yet supported you? like susana martinez. >> my message is that we have tremendous support from almost everybody. even if you look at congress, the support has been incredible. i spoke with paul ryan last night. we had a very good conversation. that's moving along. he's a good man. >> can you elaborate on that? >> no. we had a very good talk. >> in the -- [ inaudible question ] >> was there an article in the huffington post? i'm sure he was misquoted. i didn't think they covered application. do they cover application? >> apparently they do. you were softening your position on the muslim --
>> well, we're going to look at a lot of different things. we have a big problem. we have a radical islamic terrorism problem. it's a worldwide problem. not just this country. and we have to find a solution. and we have to be vigilant and tough and smart. we'll see what happens. yes, go ahead. >> when you said you wanted to debate bernie sanders. >> i'd love to debate bernie. i said and i said last night on jimmy's show, it was a question that was posed. i said i'd love to debate him, but i want a lot of money to be put up for charity. if we can raise for women's health issues or something, if we can raise 10 or $15 million for charity. i understand the television business very well. i think it would get very high ratings. it should be in a big arena somewhere. i'd love to debate bernie. the problem with debating bernie, he's going to lose. honestly, his system is rigged. just like our system's rig.
if i didn't win by massive majorities, i wouldn't be standing here talking to you today. you have to knockout. and bernie unfortunately hasn't been able to knock out. the super delegates for the democrats -- i mean, it's so unfair. so the biggest problem i have is that bernie's not going to win. but i'd debate him anyway if they wanted to put up money for charity. so we'll see. we've had a couple calls from the networks already. and we'll see. [ inaudible question ] >> well, he's the one that suggested, let's debate. >> jeff weaver said his team has been having conversations with your team. >> it's true. i'd love to debate bernie. but they have to pay a lot of money for it. look, i'm in first place. i've won -- i'd say something over $10 million. >> if he raised $10 million, you'd get -- >> i'd love to, yeah. i know you people never write this. but every single poll on every single debate, the online polls,
drudge and "time" magazine and all of them, i've won every single debate. i didn't know i was going to do that. i created jobs and businesses and did great, but i've never debated professionally. i ran against all these people. they debated professionally. according to every single online poll, i've won every single debate by every single poll. i don't mind debating. the one thing was, i wonder how well i'll debate. you know, because guys like this great gentleman over here is one of the great oilmen of the world. we're not debaters. we're people that put people to work. how many people do you have working for you? >> including contractors, tens of thousands. >> tens of thousands. that's what he does. i'd rather debate harold. i will tell you, he may do very well. but we don't do that.
but smoi omehow it worked out w for me. i actually loved the debating process. i was on center stage for every single debate. the only i was upset with some of the networks is when we had even numbers. like eight. that means you had two in the middle. >> -- regulating energy that -- [ inaudible ] >> i think the federal government should get out of the way. the federal government is in the way. we have so much potential energy that people wouldn't even believe it. in fact, my speech today is on energy. that's exactly what it is and is. the federal government, the regulations that they have. they put the coal miners out of business. the coal mines are shut. what they've -- what hillary clinton -- she's worse than obama. she openly said, i want to put the coal miners out of business, i want to put the coal mines out of business. essentially she's saying i want to put the steel mills out of
business. we're not going to have any businesses left. so hillary, i can't imagine how she could possibly do well in a place like pennsylvania. i think she made a big mistake. she's catering to certain people. i think ultimately jobs and these incredible people, the miners. they're incredible people. i asked a couple of them, why don't you go into some different profession. they said because we love going after coal. i'll never forget the answer. you think it's dangerous, going deep down into these incredible crevic crevices. i said wow. but they love doing what they do. that's what they do. it's like me. my father was in real estate, i was in real estate. he's looking down saying, what happened. the coal miners, they love doing what they're doing. and it's such an important product. hillary clinton should not be putting them out of business.
>> paul ryan is still -- >> building on that, would you be for bringing more refineries to the u.s. to become more energy independent? >> i want to be energy inspe independent, yes, absolutely. i haven't spoken to harold about that, but i would say energy independence is what we all want. and we want to sell to other places. don't forget, through modern day technology, we found out -- i'm going to be talking about it in a minute. we're sitting on energy like nobody would believe. i want to be energy independent and the answer is yes to your question. >> paul ryan has still not endorsed you. what policy concessions are you willing to make in order to get his endorsement? >> we'll see what happens. >> you still believe that -- you still want to ban all foreign muslims from the united states on a temporary basis? >> as of this moment, i am very unhappy when i look at the world
of radical islam. we're going to find the problem and we're going to come up with a solution. obama could never come up with a solution. number one, he's incompetent and number two, the solution just is never going to be out there for him. he won't even mention the words radical islamic terrorism. i have many muslim friends. they said to me, thank you, thank you, this is a problem, it's a problem that has to get solved. and we have to have turn-ins. when you see people that are looking to do tremendous destruction like in california with the 14 people killed. they lived in-house where they had bombs all over the floor. everybody knew that they were up to bad stuff. nobody reported that. people have to report when they see. okay. go ahead. go ahead. >> said multiple times you would bring coal mining jobs back. [ inaudible question ] >> right. good. i know, i see it, by far. i was impressed.
>> -- natural gas -- or decision-making by coal companies -- >> and by government. >> do you believe you'll -- >> i do. i think ultimately coal will be very inexpensive. you got to get rid of some of the regulations. i spoke to some of the mine owners. they were surrounded by some of the miners. they were showing me some of the regulations where it's on a daily basis going in checking, checking, checking. it's gotten out of control. [ inaudible question ] well, the market forces are going to be whatever they are. all i can do is free up the coal, which i'm going to totally do. get the companies back to work. market forces, that's something i don't want to get -- to me, a market force is a beautiful force. yeah, go ahead.
>> do you approve -- [ inaudible question ] >> yes, i would. totally. it should be approved. now, i'm not saying that it shouldn't be a better deal. see, obama would approve it or not approve it. hillary is probably not going to approve it from what i understand. but i look at it differently. i will absolutely approve it 100%, but i want a better deal. listen, here's the difference between harold hamm and myself and you or let's say obama who doesn't know what the hell he's doing. here's the difference. i'm going to say, folks, we're going to let you build the pipeline, but give us a piece. we're going to have to use eminent domain. remember when all the conservatives said eminent domain. well, their favorite project is the keystone pipeline. a whole big section is devoted to eminent domain. without that, that pipeline wouldn't go 10 feet. you understand that. i want the keystone pipeline, but the people of the united
states should be given a piece, a significant piece of the profits. right now, obama would have said yes or no, and most politicians would say yes we'll approve it or no we won't. i'm saying yes, i want it built, but i want a piece of the profits because we're making it possible for it to happen through eminent domain and other things. i want a piece of the profits for the united states. that's how we're going to make our country rich again. just one way out of thousands. but that's one way we're going to make our country rich again and make america great again. do you understand what i'm saying? [ inaudible question ] >> this is a different pipeline? >> 300,000 barrels -- >> do you like the idea? no, no. do you like the idea as a reporter? you're not supposed to say this, but that's okay. huh? we would look at it. look, i'm dwoipg going to look
anything. lot of times, pipelines are so much better. instead of going on training and having all of the problems caused by that, it's underground. we're going to take a look at it. >> this pipeline -- export oil through canada. [ inaudible ] >> okay. well, i'm not aware of that one. but we would certainly take a look at it. my basic bias would be to approve. i want to approve for jobs. and the concept of pipelines is okay if they're going from the right place to the right place okay? so we'll take a look at it. >> so for main street small businesses across america, what are the keys -- >> i'll tell you two of them that are very, very important, lower taxes. we're the highest taxed nation in the world by far. and the other one is we're overregulated. i made a speech last night and i said regulation -- and this
surprised me, really surprised me. i've seen it since i've been doing this ten months or so. and regulation is even more of a problem for people than the taxes, which surprised me. but they're both problems. under my plan, we're lowering taxes very substantially as you know, for businesses, for middle income, for everybody. we're going to allow trillions of dollars to pour
into the country. and we're going to get rid of the tremendous numbers of rules, regulations, probably 75% of which are absolutely terrible for our country. okay. >> elizabeth warren -- >> who pocahontas. is it offensive? oh, i'm sorry about that. pocahontas is what what you said? elizabeth warren?
she tweets a lot about me. when i tweet, not that many people are watching her tweets. when i tweet, they watch. i will say this, she is a senator that's highly overrated. she's passed very little legislation. she has been a real disaster for a lot of people including the democrats who frankly can't stand her, many of the democrats. just ask hillary clinton how she likes her. i would say this, i'll debate anybody. i don't care. i'll debate her. but she's done very little for massachusetts. when i won massachusetts with many people running against me, i got up to almost 50% and she was fighting me. so i really think if her record was exposed and the fact that she was a native american -- she said she was native american but she wasn't able to document it. she said, i have high cheekbones, so i'm a native american. she then -- i don't know if you'd call it a fraud or not. she was able to get into various schools because of the fact she applied as a native americans
and probably able to get other things. i think she's as native american as i am. she's a woman that's been
very ineffective other than she's got a big mouth. go ahead in the back. sure. >> you said that you would debate senator sanders and raised the issue of raising money for women's health issues -- >> i would like to go women's health issues. in fact, on tuesday, we're going to be releasing a tremendous list of all of the money we've given with the debate when i decided that i wanted to do this instead of go to a particular debate with a cable network that actually has been unbelievably fair over the last few months, i have to say. i did a speech. during the speech, i said let's see if we can raise some money for the vets. on tuesday, i think we're going to have a press conference in trump tower, tuesday at probably 10:00, 11:00. we're going to release a full
list of all the people -- almost $6 million worth of money was raised. when i started, we weren't going to raise anything. it was just an idea that came to me. i said, let's raise some money for the vets. one of my friends that was there, offered $1 million. carl icon gave half a million dollars. all of a sudden, we started getting a lot of money. and i love seeing it. on tuesday, we're going to release a list of all the different veterans groups that got the money. pretty close to $6 million worth of money. what i'd do if we did this debate, i'd like to do something similar. in this case, it will be just a payment by the networks. why should the networks have a debate like this, put the money in their could have fers coughe.
>> now that you hit the magic number -- >> i'm so honored. >> that is really -- >> i'm so honored to be in north dakota and having -- so honored by these people. >> now that you have sights on being president, what's the first thing -- >> number one, i'll be unwipediunwiped i -- unwinding various executive orders. and dealing with the border. we'll have a lot of things to do. we're going to start rebuilding our military. we have no choice. we're going to make our military bigger, better, stronger than ever before. i saw the other day actually on cnn where the jet fighters were using parts from museums and plane graveyards where they're taking old parts for our fighters, for f-16s.
they were interviewing some of the pilots. these are great people. they were saying they're so embarrassed and ashamed of what's going on. this shouldn't be the united states. we're going to rebuild our military. we're going to have the finest equipment in the world again. nobody's going to mess with us. very simple. i'm the last person in terms of the draw. i don't have to worry about the draw. i didn't want to go into iraq like hillary and other people. iraq was a mistake. then the way obama got us out was a tremendous mistake. so we're going to have a lot of fun that first 100 days. we're going to start the process of making america great again. how about a couple of more? >>. [ inaudible question ] >> well, we're building our campaign staff. one of the reasons i made deal with the rnc, which to me -- i think reince has done a really good job. they build over years and years staffs in every state. you can't do that, or you can't
do it very well if you're doing it all over the next few months. now i just learned i got the nomination. this was something that was going to happen according to some people in august and some people were saying, baf the second convention, which would have beenry dick lo-- ridiculou. and then we had that massive victory in indiana. here i'm sitting. so i'm watching -- i love watching hillary and bernie go at it. in fact, bernie's given me some great lines, which i'm using, believe me. as far as building the infrastructure of a campaign, the rnc's been doing it for many years. reince has really upped it. all over the country, they have very good people. part of the benefit is we get to use those people. while i'm raising a lot of money for them and they're going to use that not only for me, they're going to use it for other people running for office,
it's really been an honor. i met a big group of people last night from different states that work essentially for the rnc. you can't do that over a period of just a short while. november's coming up very rapidly. it's going to be very soon. and they are set up with some really great infrastructure. how about one or two more -- >> -- called your comments in the "washington post" cruel irresponsible and wrong. >> the question was asked about vince foster. it was asked of me, what do you think of vince foster. i really know nothing about the vince foster situation. haven't known anything about it. and somebody asked me the question the other day and i said that. a lot of people are spect call as to what happened and how he died. i know nothing about it. i don't think it's something -- unless some evidence to the contrary of what i've seen comes up, i don't think it's something that should really be part of the campaign. but again, if you people reveal something to me, i'll answer it
the appropriate way. okay. one more. yeah? >> here in north dakota, on the forefront of everyone's mind -- [ inaudible ] -- >> right. >> well, bernie is going to ban fracking. hillary is going to ban fracking. hillary is going to abolish the second amendment. she's going to abolish your right to own guns and i'm exactly of the opposite. i got the endorsement the other day from the nra which was a great honor for me. they're great amazing people. i'm a better of the nra. my sons are members of the nra. they want to absolutely knock out fracking. you do that, you're going to be back into the middle east begging for oil again. it's not going to happen. not with me. we're going to open it up. we're going to be energy independent. we're going to have all sorts of energy.
we're going to have everything you can think of, including solar. the problem with solar, it's very expensive. when you have a 30-year payback, that's not exactly the greatest thing in the world. i've gone solar on occasion, but it's a very, very expensive thing. wind is -- without subsidy, wind doesn't work. you need massive subsidies for wind. if you go to various places in california, wind is killing all of the eagles. if you shoot an eagle, they want to put you in jail for five years. yet, the windmills are killing hundreds and hundreds of eagles. one of the most treasured birds and they're killing them by the hundreds and nothing happens. so wind is, you know, it's a problem. plus, it's very, very expensive and it doesn't work without subsidy. despite that, i am into all types of energy. by the way, while we're in north dakota, i have to say this. i love the farmers and the farmers are incredible. we have to remember, this was
largely a farm state. and they produced tremendous crops of tremendous different goods of which i eat a lot of them. and i just want to pay my respects to the farmers of north dakota because they have done a great job. all right one more. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> we're going to look at that. we're going to meet with the governor of iowa which is tremendous guy and a friend of mine. we're going to talk about it. we will be making a decision fairly soon. okay? >> given the low volume of crude oil exported since the ban in regulations were lifted by the federal government recently, what would you do to increase and stimulate growth -- >> well, that's -- i'm going to open it up so they can sell. but that will be up to people like harold. if he wants to sell to other places, i'm not going to help him. nobody can sell like him. i would open it up, keep it open, get rid of the regulations. people like harold hamm and people that i know that are
really competent, believe me, and we'll start -- we will make so much money from that, from energy, because we're blessed with something. you'll hear some numbers in a little while. we'll make so much money that we'll start to pay down our $19 trillion in debt and we'll start to lower taxes and take care of our social security and medicare. but we're going to open it up. go ahead, david. he wrote a couple good stories about me, so i have to let him -- he wrote a couple bad ones though too. >> women have taken issue with the way they were portrayed -- >> i was so honored by that. >> do you think you're done answering questions now about whether you're a sexist? >> well, i think so. the "new york times" did this massive story on the front page. they quoted three women and another woman. many of the women have come forward saying we have great respect for donald trump, that's
not what we said, that's not how it was portrayed and they said it was going to be a wonderful piece. the "new york times" has been totally discredited. and the construction person, i just presented many, many e-mails. i think i sent them to you, david. many, many e-mails where she's asking for her job back. after she was gone, i never took her back. she wanted her job back. she wrote a book in which he says the nicest thing about me. i don't know why she mentioned that. anybody who mentioned that in a letter, it's strange because nobody accused me of it. she wrote many e-mails asking for her job back. so, the "new york times" story has been totally discredited. the "new york times" i can tell you from personal knowledge is very, very embarrassed. it was a total hit job on donald trump. to put a story like that above the fold with a massive picture of myself standing with ms.
universe contestants or maybe ms. usa contestants, which i told recently to ing. good deal, by the way. but for them to put a story like that above the fold on "new york times," i can tell you they are very ashamed of that story. and for the women to come out, roanne as an example to come out -- it was so nice. i did not speak to her when she did this. i spoke to her more recently and i thanked her. because it took kurge courage t. to come out and say, you really, really mistreated us by writing the story the way you wrote it and we have great respect for donald trump and like donald trump very much. the "new york times" was totally discredited. and honestly, they should be ashamed of themselves.
so it's been a great event for me. i hated reading the story even though it was not major allegations of very much stuff. one of them accused me of saying don't eat that candy. they made it like it was such a big violation. don't eat that candy. so i appreciate -- i sent it to you and i appreciated the story that you wrote about it. because the "new york times" has been totally discredited. they are very embarrassed by that story. so ladies and gentlemen,ty very much. >> what role would congressman -- >> just a talented person. and he's been there for a long time right? -- pretty much right from the beginning. come on, get over l here. been there right from the beginning. right? [ applause ] >> you've changed my life. i guess if you're one of the first seven or eight members of congress to endorse somebody, your life gets changed.
mine's been changed. i'm glad you're here. appreciate harold's invitation. appreciate your comments on energy and i'm looking forward to hearing the rest of it. [ inaudible question ] >> i missed voting for the energy and water appropriations bill that failed miserably. so i didn't miss a thing. >> thank you, everybody. >> speaker ryan suggested that he's withholding his en -- >> let's see what happens. thank you, everybody. thank you. >> donald trump in bismarck, north dakota, a lot there to review. a sweeping list of topics from the president's trip overseas to domestic energy, using imagery from dead eagles to pocahontas. there was even some vince foster in e.