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a veterans group. he collected this money earlier this year at a fund-raiser and turned into a contentious faceoff with the press over their questions. >> i have to tell you, the press is so dishonest and so unfair. i've give an lot of money and raised a lot of money for the vets. thick when the press portrays it differe differently, the press is being very dishonest. i don't like that. i don't like dishonesty. >> is this what it's going to be like if you're president, covering you? >> yes. let me tell you something. i'm a person -- it is going to be like this, david. >> the big reveal, trump raised over $6 million for vets. the real number is 5$5.6 millio, distributed to certain various groups but trump fired back at the speculation when asked about a third party contender entering the race. >> if they do in indy, assuming it's decent, which i don't think anybody with a reputation would do it because they will look like fools. what you are going to do is you
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lose the election for the republicans. bill kristol is a loser. his magazine is failing, as you know. i don't think it even survives. >> let's get into this. katy tur has been covering the trump campaign since last year. ari melber is a correspondent and an msnbc political analyst. let's talk about the real number raised for veterans and also if trump has thick enough skin for the election cycle. how did he respond? >> he released a list of veterans groups today he raised this money in january. the initial fund-raiser was january 28th in iowa, this fund-raiser was to avoid doing the fox news debate moderated by megyn kelly. there was a lot of hoop law surrounding this fund-raiser and got a lot of press attention for it and asked for a lot of attention for it and certainly patted themselves on the back and donald trump did as well for raising what they called 6 million for veterans.
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they even read out the names of the folks who donated. since then, the press has tried to take an accounting for where that money has gone, as the press normally does, you said you raised $6 million. you said it would be given to charity. you did it in a very public way. what charities are you actually giving to. he also said he would give $1 million of his own money. nobody could account for that money and the campaign refused to say if he actually gave that money and donald trump railed against the press for that and that is why the press conference was happening today. donald trump came out and said, yes, all this money has gone to various veterans groups and so far it does seem like all of that is checking out. instead of that being the story today, the story is very much, donald trump versus reporters, donald trump versus the press, his inability to take what are actually quite simple questions and instead, going on the attack against the reporters who are asking them.
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>> katkaty, let's look at some the moments of the back and forth between trump and the correspondents on the scene. >> the money's all been sent. i wanted to keep it private. if we could, i wanted to keep it private because i don't think it's anybody's business if i wanted to send money to the vets. the press should be ashamed of themselves. on behalf of the vets, the press should be ashamed of themselves. they are calling me and they are furious because i sent people checks of a lot of money and i'm going to give you the names right now, which is what you want. instead of being like thank you very much, mr. trump or trump did a good job, everyone said who got it, who got it and you make me look very bad. i have never received such bad publicity for doing such a good job. >> so let's connect the dots here. all this dates back to the beginning of the year, trump not going to the fox debate saying i will throw a fund-raiser instead heralding raising over 6 million
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bucks, a great thing to do. i don't think anybody is looking at that saying that's not good work. where the money goes is also a point of view for veterans to question. there has been a divide. there are grateful vets organizations getting this and others think trump is using them as a prop and not paying off. >> that's why there is accountability. if he is going to grandstand and use troops for campaign purposes, skipping the fox debate and having the rally to raise money for vets which is a great thing, you need to pony up the cash. he didn't do it until his hand was forced last week in this light of these questions where has this funding gone and what about donald trump's own donation and questions about how liquid is he really? maybe he is a little cash strapped right now. >> is that because of the tax information yet and if you said you cracked over $6 million for the vets and pony up a million dollars yourself and come short of that gap of over $5 million and you find out you've got 5$56
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million, this is awesome, but if you were an advisor on that campaign, would you say, mr. trump, you need to give the rest of the money or find the rest of the money so we deliver on the promise? >> for someone who claims to be worth upwards of $10 billion, i would think 400,0$400,000 to do trump should be like $40 -- >> to a regular person. >> a regular person. a good amount of money but not going to make or break you. >> that's a critical point. it seems as if he ae's definite delivered but not made the benchmark of the promise. >> for so many other politicians they could not have gotten away saying they would give a million dollars to veterans and only have to give the money having his hand forced by the press, in this case, i do think the press who have been dogged tracking this money and where these donations have gone, they deserve credit here. this is what good journalists should be doing. >> what about the republican establish and vote jers,they
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seem to support this. they're okay with this as the nominee. why? >> donald trump's strategy has honed over years of a reality star, just change the topic, if you keep changing the topic and create another mini media blitz people will cover that and won't cover the fundamentals. the fundamentals here he did not donate money he promised to vets. >> we haven't been able to independently verify through nbc news certain organizations that have gotten this money. let's talk about the veterans fund-raiser that happened back in january and now we have different business dealings that pose a problem for donald trump, certain companies of his under a microscope especially trump university, an active legal case. >> that lawsuit is active and plaintiffs say they were harmed by trump university and suing him going back and forth in court, a lot of details the bottom line is a new order from a judge that will release new materials that show how trump university did business. you see there, the students say
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they're defrauded, they paid sometimes up to 30 plus thous$3 thousand for what were essent l essentially worthless courses. no doubt it was not a university. that word is in quotes. it wasn't an accredited university. donald trump spoke about this as well today attacking the judge. take a listen. >> the judge has been very unfair, not done a good job, been a very bad judge and very unfair. i will win the trump university case. i already am as far as i'm concerned. because i don't care, you know what, why anning tonist? i don't care. i have a judge very very unfair. >> why? >> you will see it in court docume documents. i have a judge very very unfair. he knows he's unfair and i'll win the trump university case. i could settle that case, i could have settled it, i just choose not to. >> it is true he could settle it if he wanted to pay something out and have it go away. it does speak to come of his aggressive style we see in business and politics and pr he doesn't want to go out without a fight. there's a sort of playbook
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that's been leaked that shows how this basic company did business andeers version of that playbook coming out under that judge's orders by thursday. we'll see what's in there. donald trump has repeatedly racially profiled and impugned this judge talking about his ethnicity as if threats somehow relevant to the case and his judgment legally is highly unusual you would attack a judge like that when that judge is going to have a lot of power over what happens in this case. >> that should be the other campaign slogan for donald trump, other than make america great again, highly unusual. we've never seen anything like that before and this weekend treat by billy kristol about this independent candidate floating up and being potentially relevant to this race, from your sources and what you're hearing from within the republican establish who this could be, do you think bill kristol is right? there could be a strong team and real chance? >> i'm taking it more bill
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kristol is trolling donald trump and it really got under trump's team and at the end of the day probably all this is. floating a name but i'm not feeling confident. >> floating an idea. >> exactly and driving donald trump nuts in the process. >> thank you. thanks so much. a lot to talk about and digest out of that donald trump press conference earlier today. up next, we turn our focus to the democratic ticket in the battle for california. the clock is running out. that state remains in play. hillary clinton adding more stops as the canvass that state. >> how will getting the backing of governor jerry brown factor in the fight? our road warriors covering clinton and sanders campaign join me next and microsoft pulse question whether you think hillary clinton should pick bernie sanders as her vice president if she wins the nomination. this is how you're responding this hour. the pulse remains live. 38% feel yes and 62% say no.
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hillary clinton needs just 71 delegates to clench the democratic nomination. should she get over the top next week even if she doesn't win california where her lead over sanders narrows to just two points, the campaign has canceled events in new jersey so she can 13 dpoenld state early and launch a final campaign swing there. in new york, secretary clinton picking up this major announcement endorsement today out of governor jerry brown, does it really help her there considering the fact new jersey could be the state to put her over the top of delegates
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necessary for philadelphia? >> reporter: that's a good point, thomas. what is the significance of this jerry brown endorsement. it is significant. he is very popular among democrats, 76 approval rating and popular statewide. they can vote in the california primary and they will be the big question mark. to the broader point of significance of california she doesn't need to win the state mathematically to clench the nomination. as you point out she will likely clench it after winning new jersey which is before all the votes in california are even counted if she does in fact win new jersey, however, it is significant because if she loses a state like california senator sanders has a strong argument to stay in the race. if she wins california then he loses his argument to stay in the race. remember, if she loses the most populous state it could make her
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look wounded heading into that general election with donald trump undoubtedly a bruising battle. she very much wants to win and why she added extra events there. she will have a five-day campaign swing. on the other hand, senator sanders hasn't left the state and he's outspending her 2-1 and he called california the big enchilada and that is exactly what it is from his standpoint. >> hillary clinton was able to carry this state in '08 against the then senator obama. as we look to the general, hillary clinton is feeling the heat from donald trump. we look at this latest polling which is showing the margin clo closing. >> reporter: that's right. the race looks close if you look at those polls, thomas, no doubt about that. that's making some democrats jittery and making them all the more anxious for secretary clinton to seal the deal and the importance of a state like california and why you're seeing surrogates on senator sanders to get out of the race but he says he's in it until the very end.
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>> kristen welker outside the democratic headquarters. >> hill clinton will be live at 4:00 p.m. with chris hayes. >> our polls show hillary clinton has this narrow three point lead over donald trump. if donald sanders gets out of the race,.watch what happens, clinton's lead is much larger, by eight points. sanders who has remained in this race is expecting a huge upset in california. here he is comparing himself to seth curry and the gold -- steph curry and the golden state warriors. >> they turned it around and that is what our campaign is going to do as well. a very good omen for our campaign. >> a little hard to hear. steve patterson is live in santa cruz, california, a rally coming up in two hours. sanders is not totally knocking
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down the talk of being clinton's vice president. what are you hearing from sanders supporters, if they like that option to see him on the ticket with her? >> reporter: sanders supporters in california are very hard core bernie sanders. it's bernie or bust. we heard that a lot from people here. look how big the crowd is. this line stretches from here all the way around the block. you can't get presumptierspecti. a lot are weighing in on that and say they want to see bernie sanders as president not anybody's running mate and second fiddle and certainly not a losing situation. they have come out in record numbers and the plan is to blanket the state with bernie sanders rallies. what's your name? >> maria. >> i want to ask you, the question was just posed to me, how do supporters feel about if bernie sanders doesn't pull it out in california, doesn't pull it out on the 7th, how would you
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feel about bernie sanders being somebody's running mate? >> i think everyone really just wants to see bernie in the campaign and beyond, you know, bernie for president. if we have a little bit of bernie anywhere in the house, i think that's fine. the best decision and his policies as opposed to clinton's policies, i'm a little concerned about the opposition, but if the two were to come together maybe it would make for a powerful team. i'm not quite sure. >> bernie sanders obvious has a problem with the math right now. he doesn't have superdelegates, pledged delegates, the popular vote. the question i'm asking a lot of people in the crowd here is why are you still here. if he doesn't have a good shot to beat trump or can't get in position to do that, do you think it will hurt the democratic party's chance or do you care? >> i absolutely care, number one.
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yeah. i really feel bernie does have a good chance of coming out on top. i really hope that's what we see in the end and that the people's vote really does matter. i do not want to see a recount or, oh, we lost votes or, you know, someone's getting fired in an office for misfiling information. i really hope that the people can come out because there's been a lot of footage where bernie is going out and creating major press and it's not being rart on. i appreciate that you guys are here today. >> of course. i think that's the message. people are here really for the revolution, not here necessarily just for this election about to happen. they'd love to see bernie sanders in office but they're here to hear bernie's message and we've heard that since he came to california. back to you. >> a lot of influence and supporters coming out to see him in california. thank you, steve. still ahead, growing outrage today after a gorilla is shot dead after a child slips into the zoo enclosure.
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signed a petitioned for harambe's law to hold the zoo liable as to negligence. >> do officials are defending their decision. >> that child's life were in danger and people who question that were monday morning quarterbacks or second-guessers don't understand you can't take a risk with a silverback gorilla. we're talking about an animal with one hand that i've seen, take a coconut and crunch it. >> joining me now from miami is zoo miami communications director, ron mcgill, the zoo that loaned harambe to the cincinnati zoo. ron, cincinnati zoo officials are defending the difficult decision to put down harambe. do you think this zoo had any other options in rescuing the child? >> no. absolutely not. we 100% support the cincinnati zoo's decision. it was an animal we loaned to them. you can't take chances with an animal like that. at the end of the day, there is no single animal life more
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important than that of a human life, especially a child. >> when we think about the gorilla world exhibit at cincinnati zoo been there more than 40 years, barriers never breached before. now, we have this being the second incident in recent weeks an animal is killed after a human entered the enclosure. what do you think zoos could do better in the future to prevent the circumstances of incidents like this occurring. certainly all zoos will be re-evaluating the barriers, i can tell you that for a fact. we're doing it at zoo miami and all zoos are doing it now. at the end of the day, it's very difficult to secure owisomethin against human error or human intent. we try our best and look at our barriers and make sure a child not meaning any malintended thing do not breach those barriers. >> do we have to re-look at what it means to have animals in c captivity in the united states? there are a number of animal activists that call zoos
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inhumane. we know what zoo world has done to modernize against backlash of treatment of sea life. what does it mean for dzoos? >> more people go to zoos than professional sports in the united states combined. zoos provide people to have a passion and care about it. i have been in the wild conservation that wild animals exist because of the visits as a little boy. you can't throw the baby out with the bath water. there are horrible facilities, animals that call themselves o zoos nothing more than prisons. the reality a good accredited zoo inspires kids to care about wildlife. in the end we protect what we love and love what we understand and understand what we're taught and zoos do a god job teaching people to care. most people won't go to see a
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tiger or lion, we give them that opportunity. >> thank you. veterans respond to donald trump's press conference about the money he raised for veterans organizations. coming up next, i'll speak with a vet who has argued trump is using vets as political props. donald trump said he would rather be thanked for the money he's raised. iable upti. and multi-layered security. it's how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions, including an industry leading broadband network, and cloud and hosting services - all with dedicated, responsive support. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you're free to focus on growing your business. centurylink. your link to what's next. puwith meta appetite control. you and temptation
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i'll give you the names. are you ready? do you have your pen? >> we have donald trump earlier today blasting the media and his critics before an entire list of veterans organizations he claims got the nearly $6 million raised on their behalf. nbc news is still working through that list and can confirm at least 27 charities received donations totaling 3m 820,0 $820,000. half of that money was donated in the past week to 11 different chari charities. joining me now is co-founder and chairman. has your organization endorsed a particular candidate? >> we have not endorsed anybody. >> were you contacted by donald trump or any of his people about receiving a donation? >> i'm 100% confident donald trump's organization would not reach out to vote because our members 100% don't support his candidacy. >> what is your reaction to the money raised today and the tone of the candidate in the discussion in answering the
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questions how much was raised and where it went? >> we think donald trump's a fraud because he's not somebody active in the veterans community until he decided to run for president. he decided to make a spectacle because he was afraid to stand up in the republican debate and debate issues, to do this giving to veterans groups. i think the big issue a lot of veterans have is he says he will give $6 million and tweets about it five times a day the past four months and it wasn't until the "washington post" did an expose on it he did not give money until he was shamed into it. he continually wants to hide behind veterans and we don't want to be used for his dog and pony show. >> what do you say about veterans standing behind him at this event and support him and his work saying donald trump is doing a great thing for him? >> i'm glad you brought that up. >> one of the veterans behind him is an anti-islamic and
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homosexual radical and he is so not in tune that he would allow someone like that to stand behind him. one of those behind him said we shouldn't thank an army veteran who happens to be homosexual. this is not the conduct and behavior we expect from someone who is going to be a commander-in-chief whatsoever and why we don't support him and why we would never take his money and in fact votevet is going to spend money against him in the general election. >> you were talking about an open debate an officer came out asking one of the questions behind candidates was booed, this man standing behind donald trump was part of that? >> he has a history of being anti-is islamic and anti-homosexual radical. there are muslims who serve in the armed forces and rhetoric says it is helping isis. we are looking for a
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commander-in-chief strong and someone who takes care of veterans. donald trump had the entire press core there today. he could mention one policy he will do to help veterans, could have said i will give $6 million for veteran homelessness and pti. what did he do? he attacked the press because he had no ideas. he didn't know any groups to give money to and the veterans standing behind him are anti-islamic and anti-homosexual radicals. thanks for your time. we turn our attention to weather and the state of texas where new video is demonstrating how the national guard is helping people evacuate. those are live images on your right hand side. the problem is rising floodwaters in fort bend, texas, record rain and waters ravaged this state killing five people and a new thunderstorm is,
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working its way across the state. gabe is covering this story and now in rosenberg, texas. what are you seeing? >> reporter: authorities have blocked off rosenberg and moved us away from this neighborhood you can see behind me has been flooded out. the brazos river has been cre creeping up slowly over the course of the day. mandatory evacuations under way for parts of this community as well as wharton county and another community, simonton as well, a tiny town in this part of texas and evacuations under way. the national guard has also advocate ed several people toda and we're getting new aerial images of the county. people stranded trying to leave their homes. several horses have crowded into dry patches of land to try to escape the floodwaters. the brazos river is expected to crest at a record level beating
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one part of this river crested in 1994, it will beat that record as well. the death toll, the weather related death toll in texas has now climbed to nine people. overnight, authorities in austin found the body of a woman tubing with her friends and she dro drowned. we're just learning tragic news a 10-year-old boy has been found near the dallas area. very devastating situation in texas. you can see behind me these floodwaters are expected to recede just a bit after this river crests. but the worst part about this is over the next couple of days more rain is expected in texas. >> weather issues far from over in that area. gabe reporting for us. thank you. we have president obama u e urging the public to be prepared as the hurricane season officially kicks off tomorrow even though we already had wild weather over this holiday weekend, the president received a briefing at fema headquarters this morning and government
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foreca forecasters are expecting a near normal hurricane atlantic season predicting four hurricanes this year after three relatively slow years and the president said it's every citizen's responsibility to be ready. the u.s. state department is warning americans traveling in europe this summer about potential terrorist attacks. this comes as tens of thousands of people all over the world will soon arrive for the catholic church's world youth day in poland and in france. >> what can you tell me about this new warning and the timing? why announce now? >> the state department is describing it as information as part, continuing efforts to provide americans traveling abroad with a clear picture. what it is saying is there is a risk of potential terrorist attacks throughout europe tar t targeting major events, tourist si sites, restaurants, commercial
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centers and transportation. the reason for the timing, as you mentioned, the gathering of the catholic church in poland later in july, a major soccer tournament, european championships that will be held through july and june. that championship will be held in a number of stadiums around france. as is often the case with big sporting events, there will be big screens up in various places people can gather to look. the state department is warning those kinds of gatherings can be a focus for terrorists who want to target westerners. it is not saying there is intelligence suggesting isis affiliate or al qaeda affiliated group s are planning specificaly to do that. it is a broad warning that talks about this number of events. the tour de france, another event, the cycling race, is one picked out.
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it is a broad piece of information the state department is giving because it wants to be certain it's giving people all the information. >> nbc's keir simmons reporting for us in london. thank you very much. appreciate it. coming up next we will introduce you to three women credited with stopping a potential sexual assault. they will join me to talk about how they were able to save the day.
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what would you do if you saw someone slip something into their date's drink? 24-year-old michael sue is scheduled to be arraigned in a california courtroom sometime today accused of alleged sexual assault, attempting to place a drug in a dinner companion's drink for rape. and these women are being hailed as heroes. they were at a happy hour last thursday when monica, we're going to show you who monica is
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coming up in a second. the women an on the left in thi image, she saw something and they all sprang into action. we have them mixed up because we have them live and monica is in the middle. we're thrilled to have all three of you here. monica, you're in the middle and you are the one who originally saw allegedly something nefarious being poured into this woman's drink. what drew your attention to the couple? >> not a whole lot. when you are in a restaurant, i tend to just look around and take notice of what's around me. i looked up because the girl was gone. i had complete direct view of this gentleman. and just, he was suspicious, so i continued to watch. >> sonya, you actually heard from monica what had happened. the three of you put your heads together and decided to seek out
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the young lady who was sitting at the table and alert her. what was her reaction? >> she was stunned. i can't imagine her viewpoint, some stranger approaches you in the bathroom and tells you the person you're with just tried to drug you. she was stunned? she was stunned. did she believe you or think you were some wild stranger coming up with a wild story? >> i think i was awkward enough i couldn't have made it up. i just said, i know it sounds really weird but we just saw this guy put something in your drink. >> so, monica, explain to us what happened when the police came to the restaurant. >> the police -- we didn't see the police until the very end when they walked up to his table and asked him to come with them. >> marla, you documented all of this for facebook. there's been an instant
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reaction. >> no. >> sonya documented it? >> sonya documented it? forgive me. there ae's been this immediate reaction to what sonya did. do you recognize what you did was heroic? do you feel good about what you were able to do? >> i feel good about it. i don't, the heroic part doesn't quite feel comfortable. >> have you had any contact with the woman at the restaurant with you and her reaction to what went down? >> no. >> no? and do all three of you have an opinion about what you think should happen to this young man alleged of doing this? >> i am not so concerned about what happens to him. i was pleased he did not get away with it. my concern -- all of our concern really was that she is safe. >> that's why we stepped into action. our only thought was making sure
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she didn't have that drink. that's when marla alerted the server. >> you had a big reaction from folks in the restaurant. that people recognized this or had a story of their own that related to what went down? >> that was the amazing thing, right? all three of us were sitting there after the police came and the word got out throughout the restaurant what happened. people were coming up from almost every table, right? with their own story. something, you know, this happened to my sister. i was just glad i was at the bar to help her home, this happened to my roommate, this happened to me. like people were just coming up with very heartfelt thank yous to all three of us for interv e intervening. >> yeah. >> you guy, you saw something, you said something and we shall see how this case moves forward. ladies, thank you very much. marla, monica and sonya. appreciate your time.
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>> thank you very much. still ahead, does bernie sanders have a viable path to the democratic nomination and is the only way to get there through california? msnbc's jacob soboroff is up next. and the pulse question remains live. pulse.msnbc.com. in a good, clean salad, every ingredient is the main ingredient. the strawberry poppyseed... romaine, mandarin, pineapple, blueberry, strawberry, strawberry...
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a week out from the california primary, hillary clinton can see the democratic nomination finish line and in the homestretch. the picked up endorsement from california governor jerry brown who also ran for president in 1992, then against hillary clinton's husband, bill clinton. bernie sanders marches on determined to stay in this race until the bitter end. >> we're trying to run a campaign here in california, which to the best of my knowledge is literally unprecede
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unprecedented. we've spoken to 137,000 californians and by the time this campaign is over, that number will be well over 200,000 people from one end of the state to the other. >> we go live to l.a. and msnbc's jacob soboroff. is there still a path for sand others to win the democratic nomination. does the math add up? >> there is still a path but it's not actually the easiest path for senator sand others to navigate because of the rules and regulations of the democratic party and how you get to this nomination. 2,311 delegates. you look at the chalk board here you can see there's a design delegate difference between total delegates. senator sanders wants you to focus on red lines pledged delegates determined by the popular vote and only a 270 vote difference on those. why is it so complicated and does he actually really seriously have a chance? did a little digging. this is what i found out.
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you've been hearing for a while now things aren't looking good for senator bernie sanders chances to win the nomination for president. do you think he has a chance? >> no. >> what gives? why is the race still going if it's out of reach. technically, it's not. sanders is behind in the total delegate count. there is still a chance. june 7th, california, montana, new mexico, new jersey, south dakota and north dakota democrats vote. california not only has more delegates on the line than any other state, huge crop of unpledged delegates known as super delegates to help a democratic candidate to become a democratic nominee with their super votes. >> reporter: what about if he gets the super delegates? >> i probably don't understand the process enough but my daughter says he does. >> what do you think? >> i don't understand.
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>> different daughter? >> yes. >> do you think he has a chance? >> hopefully not. >> reporter: a trump guy. last question. do you know what a super delegate is? >> yes. on the democratic side, gover r governors, and they can vote whatever way they want and it's a weird process. >> reporter: it is weird. that weighs totally a correct answ answer? yeah. makes no sense. >> reporter: a super delegate is a delegate to the democratic convention who gets to vote however they want regardless of the popular vote. there are 714 this year mostly former party leaders including bernie sanders and bill clinton. their votes count way more than yours or mine. here's why. they make up 15% of the 4,765 total delegates. a candidate needs half of those to win. you get there using pledged delegates determined by the popular vote and these super delegates who really can tip the scales if it's close. so if super delegates decide to come over to sanders side and chances are that isn't going to happen because of clinton's
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strong support with the group and her pledged delegate lead and he score asmir capitol victory in california and other june 7 states he still has a chance. >> why doesn't this country have a popular vote and be done with it. >> reporter: you don't like superdelegates? >> i don't like these superdelegates and primaries. the only thing you see on television is trump and clinton and sanders and it's just terrible. >> reporter: partially my fault. >> yeah. >> partially my fault, i don't know. you look at the delegates needed, hillary clinton just needs 71 after being endorsed by jerry brown, the governor and bernie sanders needs 841. you look at the map, there are plenty of delegates available a week from today on june 7th. the question is with those superdelegates already in hillary clinton's corner will the race be called early in the night and will california be left in the dust? we will see. >> you threw yourself on this
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sword, we appreciate that, jacob. >> my pleasure. >> you're absolutely right because jersey will close so much earlier than the california primary ending, hillary clinton could be over the top. >> that's what the sanders is s saying, pushing back saying we don't want this called on the basis of the superdelegate vote we want it on the basis of the pledged vote because ultimately pledged delegates don't vote until the convention this july. >> professor soboroff, thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> that will wrap up coverage this hour and kate snow picks up next. don't forget to watch 4:00 p.m. chris hayes' interview with hillary clinton and the libertarian interview will be on mtp daily for their first live interview at 5:00 p.m. the decision to ride on and save money.
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on this day after the long weekend there was no easing back in for donald trump. the candidate unfiltered, unp g unplugged, erupting at the media. remember back in january, trump refused to attend the debate because of his feud with fox news and held a high profile event to raise money for veterans and today he said he wasn't looking for credit and wanted to keep things private. now, he's upset the media che checked where the money went and how much money. that exact figure has been changing the last few month but consistently lower than the $6 million he touted that evening. a few hours ago at a contentious news conference, donald trump finally made the number official. four months after the event s saying the raised 5$5.6 million but he was angry with the media. >> instead of being thank you very much, mr. trump or trump did a good job, everyone saying who got it who got it, who

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