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businesses. so the validity of their claims and the motivation for their claims coming out in support of donald trump is in question at the moment. his lawyers refusing to acknowledge the case as fraud, denying that, and also saying that they will win this case. donald trump has said that over and over again. he's also gone after the federal judge calling his ethnicity into the debate as if that is somehow relevant, saying that he's mexican when the judge was born in indiana. so i think yesterday was one of the worst days the candidate has had in terms of publicity and spin so far this campaign season. it did feel to me as somebody who's been on the road now for 11 months with him that it was a turning point, or could potentially be a turning point, a dent in his armor when it comes to his argument that he is fighting for the little guy. a number of students coming out
and saying very forcefully and teachers that this trump university was anything but that. it was to get him rich at the expense of poor and elderly americans. >> katy tur out in san francisco again prior to a trump event there tonight. and nicole wallace, while we're watching this young woman giving the introduction in the understanding that we may have to drop out of this any moment to take the speech, it did strike me, federal judges are very powerful individuals in our country. they are nominated by the president. they serve for life. they are approved by the senate of the united states. when you're on the federal bench, it is a position of significant power and privileges. for donald trump to take on a federal judge is dicy. >> it's dicy in the same way that taking on a prisoner of war is dicy. he called john mccain not his kind of p.o.w. and donald trump -- i think as
katy said, it could be a turning point. when we watch how he 1307bds to hillary clinton's speech today, we'll know whether he's on his heels or back on offense. >> nicole wallace, thanks. katy tur before that. chris matthews thanks. we'll speak to you all at the other side of this address as hillary clinton gets ready to give a foreign policy speech in san diego. >> thank you so much. thank you. [ applause ] thank you all very much. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] thank you, san diego, for that warm, warm welcome. and thanks to ellen for those moving words, her introduction, and for reminding us that it's not only our men and women in uniform who serve our country, it's their families, their spouses, their children. and we are grateful to each and every one of them.
i want to recognize and thank congressman scott peters for being here. thank you very much. [ cheers and applause ] and all of the other electeds and service members, active duty and retired national guard, veterans, military spouses, family members, all who are with us today. on monday, we observed memorial day. a day that means a great deal to san diego. home of so many active duty and former military and their families. we honor the sacrifice of those who died for our country in many ways. by living our values, by making this a stronger and fairer nation, and by carrying out a smart and principled foreign policy. that's what i want to speak
about today. the challenges we face in protecting our country, and the choice at stake in this election. it's choice between a fearful america that's less secure and lessen gauged with the world and a strong confident america that leads to keep our country safe and our economy growing. [ cheers and applause ] as secretary of state, senator, and first lady, i had the honor of representing america abroad and helping shape our foreign policy at home. as a candidate for president there is nothing i take more seriously than our national security. i've offered clear strategies for how to defeat isis, strengthen our alliances, and
make sure iran never gets a nuclear weapon. and i'm going to keep america's security at the heart of my campaign. [ cheers and applause ] because as you know so well, americans aren't just electing a president in november. we're choosing our next commander in chief, the person we count onto decide questions of war and peace, life and death. and like many across our country and around the world, i believe the person, the republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job. [ cheers and applause ] donald trump's ideas aren't just
different. they are dangerously incoherent. they're not even really ideas. just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds, and outright lies. [ cheers and applause ] he is not just unprepared. he is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility. [ cheers and applause ] this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. [ cheers and applause ]
we cannot put the security of our children and grandchildren in donald trump's hands. we cannot let him roll the dice with america. this is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including saudi arabia. this is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies at nato, the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before they strike us at home. he believes we can treat the u.s. economy like one of his casinos and default on our debts to the rest of the world, which would cause an economic catastrophe far worse than anything we experienced in 2008. [ cheers and applause ] he has said that he would order our military to carry out
torture and the murder of civilians who are related to suspected terrorists even though those are war crimes. he says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials because he has, quote, a very good brain. [ laughter ] he also said, i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. you know what? i don't believe him. [ cheers and applause ] he says climate change is a hoax invented by the chinese. and he has the gall to say that prisoners of war like john mccain aren't heros. [ booing ] exactly. he praises dictators like
vladimir putin and picks fights with our friends, the mayor of london, the german chancellor, the president of mexico, and the pope. [ cheers and applause ] he says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the ms. universe pageant in russia. [ laughter ] and to top it off, he believes america is weak, an embarrassment. he called our military a disaster. he said we are, and i quote, a third world country. [ booing ] and he's been saying things like that for decades. those are the words, my friends, or someone who doesn't understand america or the world. and -- [ applause ] -- they're the words of someone who would lead us in the wrong
direction. because if you really believe america is weak with our military, our values, our capabilities that no other country comes close to matching, then you don't know america. and -- [ cheers and applause ] and you certainly don't deserve to lead it. that's why even if i weren't in this race, i'd be doing everything i could to make sure donald trump never becomes president because i believe he will take our country down a truly dangerous path. unlike him, i have some experience with the tough calls and the hard work of state craft. i wrestled with the chinese over a climate deal in co-pen haguen. brokered a cease-fire between israel and hamas. negotiated the reduction of nuclear weapons with russia.
twisted arms to bring the world together in global sanctions against iran and stood up for the rights of women, religious minorities and lgbt people around the world. [ cheers and applause ] and -- [ applause ] and i have -- i have sat in the situation room and advised the president on some of the toughest choices he faced. so i'm not new to this work, and i'm proud to run on my record because i think the choice before the american people in this election is clear. i believe in strong alliances. clarity in dealing with our rivals. and a rock solid commitment to the values that have always made
america great. and i believe with all my heart that america is an exceptional country, that we're still in lincoln's words the last best hope of earth. we are not a country that cowers behind walls. we lead with purpose and we prevail. if america doesn't 4r50lead, we leave a vacuum. and that will either cause chaos or other countries will rush in to fill the void. then they'll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety and, trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit. that is not an outcome we can live with. as i see it, there are some important things our next president must do. to secure american leadership and keep us safe and our economy growing in the years ahead. these are all areas in which donald trump and i profoundly
disagree. and they are all critical to our future. first, we need to be strong at home. that means investing in our infrastructure, education and innovation, the 23u7fundamental a strong economy. our country can't lead effectively when so many are struggling to provide the basics for their families. and we need to break down the barriers that hold americans back. including barriers of bigotry and discrimination. [ applause ] compare that with what trump wants to do. his economic plans would add more than 30 trillion, trillion with a t, $30 trillion to our national debt over the next 20 years. he has no ideas on education. no ideas on innovation.
he has a lot of ideas about how to blame, but no clue about what to do. none of what donald trump is offering will make america stronger at home. and that would make us weaker in the world. second, we need to stick with our allies. america's network of allies is part of what makes us exceptional and our allies deliver for us every day. [ applause ] our armed forces fight terrorists together. our diplomats work side by side. allies provide staging areas for our military so we can respond quickly to events on the other side of the world. and they share intelligence that helps us identify and diffuse potential threats. take the threat posed by north korea. perhaps the most repressive
regime on the planet run by a sadistic dictator who wants to develop long-range missiles that could carry a nuclear weapon to the united states. when i was secretary of state, we worked closely with our allies, japan and south korea, to respond to this threat, including by creating a missile defense system that stands ready to shoot down north korean warhead should its leaders ever be wreckless enough to launch one at us. the technology is ours. key parts of it are located on japanese ships. all three countries contributed to it, and this month, all three of our militaries will run a joint drill to test it. that's the power of allies. [ cheers and applause ]
and it's also the legacy of american troops who fought and died to secure those bonds. because they knew we were safer with friends and partners. now moscow and beijing are deeply envious of our alliances around the world because they have nothing to match them. they'd love for us elect a president that would jeopardize that source of strength. in donald trump deaths his way, they'll be celebrating in the kremlin. we cannot let that happen. [ applause ] that's why it is no small passing thing when he talks about leaving nato or says he'll stay neutral on israel's security. it's no small thing when he calls mexican immigrants rapists and murderers. we're lucky to have two friendly neighbors on our land borders.
why would he want to make one of them an enemy? [ cheers and applause ] and it's no small thing when he suggests that america should withdraw our military support for japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons. and he said this about a war between japan and noerth korea and i quote, if they do, they do. good luck, enjoy yourself folks. i wonder if he even realizes he's talking about nuclear war. yes, our friends need to contribute their fair share. i made that point long before donald trump came onto the scene. and a number of them have increased their defense spending. the real debate here is whether we keep those alliances strong or cut them off. what he says would weaken our country.
third, we need to embrace all the tools of american power, especially diplomacy and development. to be on the front lines solving problems before they threaten us at home. diplomacy is often the only way to avoid a conflict that could end up exacting a much greater cost. it takes patience, persistence and an eye on the long game. but it's worth it. take the nuclear agreement with iran. when president obama took office, iran was racing toward a nuclear bomb. some called for military action. but that could have ignited a broader war that could have mired our troops in another middle eastern conflict. president obama chose a different path. we brought iran to the table, we began talks, and eventually, we reached an agreement that should block every path for iran to get
a nuclear weapon. [ applause ] now -- now we must enforce that deal vigorously. as i said many times before, our approach must be distrust and verify. the world must understand that the united states will act decisively if necessary including with military action to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon. in particular, israel's security is nonnegotiable. they're our closest ally in the region, and we have a moral obligation to defend them. [ applause ] but there is no question that the world and the united states, we are safer now than we were before this agreement. and we accomplished it without
firing a single shot, dropping a single bomb, or putting a single american soldier in harm's way. now -- [ applause ] donald trump says we shouldn't have done the deal. we should have walked away. but that would have meant no more global sanctions, and iran resuming their nuclear program. and the world blaming us. so then what? war? telling the world good luck, you deal with iran? of course trump doesn't have answers to those questions. donald trump doesn't know the first thing about iran or its nuclear program. ask him. it will become very clear very quickly. [ applause ] you know, there's no risk of people losing their lives if you
blow up a golf course deal. [ laughter ] but it doesn't work like that in world affairs. just like interesting interviewed on the same episode of "60 minutes" as putin was is not the same thing as actually dealing with putin. so the stakes in global statecraft are infinitely higher and more complex than in the world of luxury hotels. we all know the tools donald trump brings to the table. bragging, mocking, composing nasty tweets. i'm willing to bet he's writing a few right now. [ applause ] but those tools won't do the trick. rather than solving global count crises, he would create new ones. he has no sense of what it takes
to deal with multiple countries with competing interests and reaching a solution that everyone can get behind. in fact, he is down right contempt wous of that work. that means he's much more likely to end up leading us into conflict. fourth, we need to be firm but wise with our rivals. countries like russia and china often work against us. beijing dumps cheap steel in our markets. that hurts american workers. moscow has taken aggressive military action in ukraine right on nato's doorstep. now, i've gone toe to toe with russia and china and many other different leaders around the world. so i know we have to be able to both stand our ground and find common ground when we can. that's why i worked with russia to reduce nuclear stockpiles and with china to increase pressure
on north korea. it's how our diplomats negotiated the landmark agreement on climate change, which trump now wants to rip up. [ applause ] the key was never forgetting who we were dealing w. not friends or allies, but countries that share some common interests with us amid many disagreements. donald doesn't see the complexity. he wants to start a trade war with china. and i understand a lot of americans have concerns about our trade agreements. i do, too. but a trade war is something very different. we went down that road in the 1930s. it made the great depression longer and more painful. combine that with his comments about defaulting on our debt and it's not hard to see how a trump presidency could lead to a global economic crisis. and i have to say, i don't understand donald's bizarre
fascination with dictators and strongmen who have no love for america. he praised china for the square massacre. he said it showed strength. he said, you got to give kim jong-un credit for taking over north korea. something that he did my murdering everyone he saw as a threat including his own uncle which donald described gleefully. he said if he were grading vladimir putin as a leader, he'd give him an a. i will leave it to the psychiatrists to explain his affection for tyrants. [ cheers and applause ] i just wonder how anyone could be so wrong about who america's real friends are. because it matters. if you don't know exactly who you're dealing with, men like putin will eat your lunch. now, fifth, we need real plan
for confronting terrorists. as we saw six months ago in san bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. over the past year, i've laid out my plans for defeating isis. we need to take out their strongholds in iraq and syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for arab and kurdish forces on the ground. we need to keep pursuing diplomacy to end syria's civil war and close iraq's sectarian divide because those conflicts are keeping isis alive. we need to lash up with our allies and ensure our intelligence services are working hand in hand to dismantle the global network that supplies money, arms, propaganda, and fighters to the terrorists. and we need to win the battle in signer space. -- cyberspace. [ applause ] and of course we need to strengthen our defenses here at
home. now, that in a nutshell is my plan for defeating isis. what's trump's? well, he won't say. he's literally keeping it a secret. the secret of course is he has no idea what he'd do to stop isis. just look at the few things he's actually said on the subject. he actually said, and i quote, maybe syria should be a free zone for isis. oh, okay. let a terrorist group have control over a major country in the middle east. then he said, we should send tens of thousands of american ground troops to the middle east to fight isis. he also refused to rule out nuclear weapons against isis, which would mean mass civilian casualties. it's clear he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. so we can't be certain which of these things he would do, but we can be certain that he's capable
of doing any or all of them, letting isis run wild, launching a nuclear attack, starting a ground war, these are all distinct possibilities with donald trump in charge. and through all his loose talk, there's one constant theme. demonizing muslims and playing right into the hands of isis. his proposal to ban 1.5 billion muslims from even coming to our country doesn't just violate the religious freedom our country was founded on. it's a huge propaganda victory for isis. and it alienates the very countries we need to help us win in this fight. a trump presidency would em bolden isis. [ applause ] we cannot take that risk. this isn't reality television. this is actual reality.
[ applause ] and defeating global terrorist networks and protecting the hole land takes more than empty talk and a handful of slogans. it takes a real plan, real experience and real leadership. donald trump lacks all three. and one more thing. a president has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must and only with a clear and well thought out strategy. our troops give their all. they deserve a commander in chief who knows that. i've worked side by side with generals and admirals and visited our troops in theaters of war. i fought for better health care for national guard, better services for our veterans, more support for our gold star families. we cannot put the lives of our young men and women in uniform in donald trump's hands. now sixth, we need to stay true
to our values. trump says over and over again, the world is laughing at us. he's been saying this for decades. he didn't just start this year. he bought full page ads in newspapers across america back in 1987 when ronald reagan was president saying that america lacked a backbone and the world was, you guessed it, laughing at us. he was wrong then, and he's wrong now. and you've got to wonder why somebody who fundamentally has so little confidence in america and has felt that way for at least 30 years wants to be our president. the truth is, there's not a country in the world that can rival us. it's not just that we have the greatest military or that our economy is larger, more durable, more entrepreneurial than any in the world. it's also that americans work harder, dream bigger, and we
never, ever stop trying to make our country and the world a better place. [ cheers and applause ] so -- so it really matters that donald trump says things that go against our deepest held values. it matters when he says he'll order our military to murder the families of suspected terrorists. during the raid to kill bin laden, when every second counted, our s.e.a.l.s took the time to move the women and children in the compound to safety. donald trump may not get it. but that's what honor looks like. [ cheers and applause ]
and you know what? it also matters when he makes fun of people with disabilities. calls women pigs. proposes banning an entire religion from our country, or plays coy with white supremacists. america stands up to countries that treat women like animals or people of different races, religions or ethnicities as less human. [ applause ] what happens to the moral example we set for the world and for our own children if our president engages in bigotry? and by the way, mr. trump, every time you insult american muslims or mexican immigrants, remember that plenty of muslims and immigrants serve and fight in our armed forces.
[ applause ] donald trump -- donald trump could learn something from them. and that brings me to the final point i want to make today. the temperament it takes to be commander in chief. every president faces hard choices every day. with imperfect information and conflicting imperatives. that's the job. a revolution threatens to topple a government in a key region. an adversary reaches out for the first time in years. what do you do? making the right call takes a cool head and respect for the facts. it takes a willingness to listen to other people's points of view
with a truly open mind. it also takes humility. knowing you don't know everything because if you're convinced you're always right, you'll never ask yourself the hard questions. i remember being in the situation room with president obama debating the potential bin laden operation. the president's advisors were divided. the intelligence was compelling, but far from definitive. and the risks of failure were daunting. the stakes were significant for our battle against al qaeda and our relationship with pakistan. most of all, the lives of those brave s.e.a.l.s and helicopter pilots hung in the balance. it was a decision only a president could make. and when he did, it was as crisp and courageous a display of
leadership as i've ever seen. now imagine donald trump sitting in the situation room making life or death decisions on behalf of the united states. imagine him deciding whether to send your spouses or children into battle. imagine if he had not just his twitter account at his disposal when he's angry, but america's entire arsenal. do we want him making those calls? someone thin-skinned and quick to anger who lashes out at the smallest criticism. do we want his finger anywhere near the button? well, i have a lot of faith that the american people will make the right decision. this is a country with a deep reservoir of common sense and national pride. and we're all counting on that. [ cheers and applause ]
because making donald trump our commander in chief would be a historic mistake. and it would undo so much of the work that republicans and democrats alike have done over many decades to make america stronger and more secure. it would set back our standing in the world more than anything in recent memory, and it would fuel an ugly narrativebout who we are. that we're fearful, not confident, that we want to let others determine our future for us instead of shaping our own destiny. that's not the america i know and love. so, yes, we have a lot of work to do to keep our country secure, and we need to do better by american families and american workers, and we will. but don't let anyone tell you that america isn't great. donald trump's got america all wrong. we are a big hearted, fair-minded country.
[ cheers and applause ] there is no challenge we can't meet, no goal we can't achieve when we each do our part and come together as one nation. every lesson from our history teaches us that we are stronger together. we remember that every memorial day. and this election is a choice between two very different visions of america. one that's angry, afraid, and based on the idea that america is fundamentally weak and in decline. the other is hopeful, generous, and confident in the knowledge that america is great, just like we always have been. [ cheers and applause ] so let's resolve that we can be greater still. that is what i believe in my heart. i went to 112 countries as your secretary of state. and i never lost my sense of
pride and wonder at seeing that blue and white plane lit up on some far off runway with the united states of america emblazened on the side. that plane, those words, our country represents something special. not just to us, but the world. it represents freedom, hope, and opportunity. i love this country and i know you do too. it's been an honor and a privilege to serve america and i'm going to do everything i can to protect our nation and make sure we never lose sight of how strong we really are. thank you all very much. [ cheers and applause ] >> hillary clinton in san diego, california, warmly received there in the room saying point-blank and straight up that donald trump cannot do the job,
donald trump is unfit for office, and accusing him of a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. among our friends watching and listening with us, chris matthews in washington. chris, what did you make of the speech? >> well, it was a masterpiece. it was a great speech. very well constructed. patriotic as hell. those flags were not there by accident. this was a speech which was nationalistic. i did think it was a speech that could have been given before the vietnam war. it was more in the pre-vietnam fra addition of the democratic party. a speech given very strong on defense, no apologies for overreaching and u.s. foreign policy and her case, no apologies for supporting the iraq war, supporting intervention in libya and then in syria. no apologies for that.
certainly a speech that bernie sanders would never give in a million years. i think trump's going to be worried by this speech because it was patriotic, nationalistic, talked about our country and it values. it had a couple interesting salients to it. the people in play, people like bill krystal for example, editor of the weekly standard, there's that whole tradition of very strong middle east policy on blaf of israel, she reached for those voters too. i think she was going for the people who don't like trump instinctively. and she's going to those people today, right now, we just heard it, talking about our moral obligation to israel. her absolute distrust of iran. very strong appeal to the neocon movement which is reaching out for an alternative to donald trump. so there is tremendous virgin
territory there for a democratic candidate to reach over, pull over some of that more hawkish people in the center of the country. i think it's very powerful speech. >> chris matthews in washington. nicole wallace, what did you think? >> i agree that if you pull out the language on iran which lot of republicans feel is a great vulnerability for her. republicans have not warmed up to the deal that was done. they thought we wanted it too badly. so most republicans feel that we got a crummy deal. if the trump campaign were firing on any cylinders, what they should have done today was given a speech that really -- a takedown of the problems with the iran deal. they didn't. instead, he's on twitter and doing other things. what hillary clinton made clear to me is that they are having private conversations with these sort of national security types that chris matthews talked about. i was watching twitter, i follow
a lot of these neo cons that chris was talking about. whatever is one step before keeping, they were very praiseworthy of the national security message. i thought this was a speech that jeb bush or marco rubio or lindsay graham could have given. >> you and i saw the news that paul ryan, senior most elected republican in the united states, third in line to the president, said i'll be voting for donald trump in the fall. there it is. >> yeah. i think i made clear my affection for paul ryan while we were here when he was sworn in as speaker. i think this was something he had to do. i don't think this was something he wanted to do. i think there was a lot of pressure on him. trump is the gop nominee. he put forth a list of judges that senator majority leader mitch mcconnell said that one list of judges was enough for
him. paul ryan probably has a set of issues where he's more confident he can bring donald trump around. maybe it's entitlement reform. maybe it's something on his p r poverty agenda. >> ian bremmer, our national security and foreign affairs expert, again, watching this through your prism, ian, is a different matter. what did you make of the address? >> very solid foreign policy speech. i certainly thought the fact that she embraced the iran deal as a deal she worked on together with kerry, keeping tobama administration together ends up being solid for her. if you think republicans have a hard time generally getting on board with trump, that's doubly true for the foreign policy establishment. but that's not where she's going to win the election. i wouldn't say that trump's asleep at the switch. i expect that the fact that paul ryan just dominated the media
cycle for trump for the next day by in the middle of this speech putting out that he was going to support trump, that's going to hit the headlines tomorrow, not what clinton has to say. the thing that surprised the pundits consistently has been about donald trump's ability every single day to grab the attention of the media on things that more eyeballs want to actually pay attention to. and i feel like, even on foreign policy, hillary's speech of course appealed to anyone that really cares about foreign policy in the u.s. or abroad. and yet, the average american that doesn't care much about foreign policy, he's grabbed a lot of red meat issues that seem to matter to them. the foreign policy, the more isolationist trend on that. the willingness to say i'm going to bring jobs back, i'm going to force companies to reopen these factories, even though i don't happen to believe it's doable, he's not losing on saying things that are either untrue or that are not able to be backed up well. and the fact that hillary's able
to beat him on intellectual 2k3wr0u7 grounds in this speech or consistently until november, i don't care that's the way she's going to win. during the speech, if you went to hillary.com and looked at her website, all it had in front was we can't risk a trump presidency. i think it is too early in the game for hillary clinton to be saying i am your least worst option. that the problem is going against him as opposed to going for me. she has to be able to connect to more of the average american voters. the people that are turning out for bernie sanders, she's got to get them on board after the convention. this speech is not going to do that, brian. >> ian bremmer, thanks. one final question for nicole wallace. that is as someone who's been in the political business a long time, putting speeches in front of candidates and elected officials for delivery, what would you make of the mechanics of her delivery?
i ask because it's germane, we end up talking about speaking styles lot during these endless primary nights. >> yeah, we talk about everyone's clothes, their ties. i think she's nailed the performance aspect of this speech. i think it's interesting, and if i were a democrat and a sanders voter, i might find it perplexing that she was so much more at ease taking on trump than she is making anywhere close as coherent a case against sanders. i don't know if it's timidity, taking on people that you ultimately need to bring around. but i haven't seen her go after anyone with this kind of clarity. she did what the 16 republicans who lost to trump needed to do to beat him, which was she mocked him. and if jeb bush wanted to be the nominee or marco rubio want 20d be the -- and marco tried it but he didn't do it with a case behind him. she actually laid out a case against trump. i agree with ian. i don't think it will peel off
any of the people that already support him. they'll look at this and it looked so establishmenty. they'll say this is exactly what we want to get rid of. this is all happy talk and the world is on fire. there are people on both sides of the aisle that would say we're in a more difficult position because of our syria policy and what's happening in the middle east. he did not make that case today. he didn't get in in news cycle making the anti-hillary clinton case on her foreign policy record. >> presumably he has an event tonight in california. he will for the evening news cycle. but yet unknown. nicole, thanks, of course chris matthews. we will fit another break in here. msnbc live coverage continues on the other side. een to my place. no, i wasn't...oh look, you dropped something. it's your resume with a 20 dollar bill taped to it. that's weird. you want to work for ge too. hahaha, what? well we're always looking for developers who are up for big world changing challenges
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suspected terrorists even though those are war crimes. he says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials because he has, quote, a very good brain. [ laughter ] he also said, i know more about isis than the generals do. believe me, you know what, i don't believe him. >> just a portion of a forceful speech on foreign policy and donald trump more specifically, delivered within the past hour in san diego by former secretary of state hillary clinton. we are joined by a former senate colleague of hers, four term senior senator from the state of california, democrat dianne feinstein and senator, in asking you your opinion of the speech, can i also get your acknowledgement that it today, is aimed at a certain audience. donald trump will appear where
you are in san francisco, and given the state of our political affairs right now, he will speak to an entirely separate audience? >> well, i think that's probably true. but as far as hillary clinton's speech today, i thought she knocked it out of the ballpark. she was clear, she was consigns, s -- consigns, she was presidential. i was so proud. i could see her representing this country in any chamber of government anywhere in the world. and i see her broad experience coming through in the framing of the speech, in what she said had to be done with respect to isis in the kind of president that she will be. i felt, now i'm biased, and i'm a friend, but i felt i was listening to the next president of the united states. >> well, before we get there, she has to be the presumptive nominee of the democratic party. anyone watching the speech today would think that had already happened, given the tone of it
and the surroundings, the environment, the atmosphere. you do serve in the senate with her challenger, bernie sanders. you have endorsed hillary, granted. what is your advice to senator sanders? >> my advice to senator sanders is to understand that hillary is just about our nominee. she lacks just 71 delegates. and the pundits that i read are saying she will have those 71 delegates before the votes are fully counted in the state of california next tuesday. so, i would say to all of trump -- excuse me, all of senator sanders' fans, let's come together, let's listen once again to this speech, and let's take another look at hillary clinton. and let's leave the pundits out of it. think about this country and what you want this country to be and the kind of strength we need
and also the concern for our people that we need to show in new an different ways. i think hillary clinton is the one that will get a program through the congress of the united states. i don't really believe donald trump will because his program confines are so broad to be almost indistinguishable from some kind of chaos and i think that's a real problem. so i am a very proud hillary supporter. i was delighted that she had the opportunity to give this kind of speech because she was on the tube, the kind of person, the thinker and the political leader that she really is in everyday life that we see. >> as someone who's been around politics a while what do you make of this argument, that donald trump -- ronald reagan was the donald trump of his time, that his rise and his --
the notion of him ascending to the presidency was outrageous, as outrageous as then -- >> oh, no. >> as trump's candidacy is now. >> that's not true. ronald reagan was a californian, he was governor, i knew him then and he had none of the insults and the demeaning and the belittlements and the sheer antagonism that came out. ronald reagan was nowhere like -- no way like donald trump. i'm amazed you'd even say that. >> it's just -- >> it just popped into your head, i know. >> there's a story in a major magazine this week. you're just seeing it for people who are floating theories, perhaps some of the republicans trying to feel better about the direction of their party is taking. senator feinstein, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> for being with us from california.
i stand corrected. san jose is the location of tonight's donald trump event. we erroneously reported earlier it would be in san francisco proper. speaking of california, hugh hewitt has been nice enough to wait to speak with us. hugh, it's been a good long time since you and i had a chance to talk about the current state of the race. what did you make of the clinton speech, yes, but also the week donald trump is having? >> let me start with the speech, brian, because i watched it here and it was very elegantly delivered. i will agree with senator feinstein that a friend might think it was effective but a long-time opponent like me says there is an ocean of difference between her record and her rhetoric. she said, making the right call requires keeping a cool head and i thought to the night of september 11th, 2012, when she fled the state department at 1:00 a.m. about benghazi. she said she had gone toe to toe with china and russia and thought about putin and russia and china and the south china
sea. she said we need to win the war in cyber space. this from an individual who maintained an illegal server that was compromised by our national security enemies who said you mean white it down like with a cloth, who has repeatedly misled and probably will be the subject of an fbi investigation. she didn't answer chris hayes about that the other night when he asked. why should we believe hillary clinton about donald trump when we can't believe her about her own assessment of her record, the facts of that record and her server. >> do you believe the nicole wallace theory of the case regarding today's speech, this kind of incremental effort to get it out there and keep it out there, that the very serious business of casting a vote for president, on this front, especially foreign relations, there's no comparing the two and the choice would have to go to hillary clinton for experience? >> well, that's the appeal she's making. she effectively dropped the
daisy ad early. people will recall from barry goldwater's campaign the one time they aired the daisy ad. i think nicole mentioned, it's very early to be doing that and it's going to wear out its welcome. i do think what would best serve donald trump now, are not tweets, but a measured, firm response along a number of policy lines, whether it's the libya fiasco, secretary of state clinton said we came, we saw, he died, and now a 1050 mim grants are dead in the med last week fleeing through libya aided by the smugglers in a failed state. i think he wants to talk about bowe bergdahl and the iran deal in terms of specifics and bring out john bolton, jon kyl, maybe you bring on all of the -- condoleezza rice, appear with the foreign policy establishment who go line by line through the nurse of the last eight years
which secretary clinton participated and rebut. you don't challenge via tweets. i would urge a longer, more sustained attack on her record in response to this. the temperament argument john made on twitter, is that if she maintains this tone for the next four months she will have a significant advantage, but she has trouble keeping that tone, brian, especially when she never goes to a press conference, particularly when she avoids direct questions about her server, it won't hold up for six months. >> by the way, hugh, the article i mentioned that the senator forcefully came back at me on is frank rich's piece in "new york" magazine this week, what the donald shares with the ronald, subhead, the trump candidacy looks a lot more like reagan's than anyone might care to notice. do you care to comment? >> that's right. he's right and you're right. i would reject the senator's critique. she might have known ronald reagan then but i worked for him as a young lawyer in the white
house. i remember the abuse heaped on him in the 1980 campaign when working for richard nicken as a fresh out of college ghost writer and everyone said he was a cowboy and would blow up the world. they air brush, the san francisco democrats of 1984 if you recall used to call him a ko cowboy into his presidency. they're forgetting their own critique. frank rich a man of the left has a lot to say that's accurate and i look forward to reading that piece. >> thank you very much. good to be reconnected with you and thank you for your patience and for joining us from california today. you got a lot of political activity out in one state but it's a big place today. >> my pleasure. >> hugh hue with our friend from california. we will join at the top of the hour chris mathews, who will take the next hour's coverage. as we said, so much political news to talk about today. not only the speech we witnessed from the former secretary of state, pointedly going after
donald trump on the topic of foreign affairs but foreshadowing and previewing the appearance in san jose later today by donald trump, something tells us he may have a thing or two to say about what we just witnessed. but with all of it, for the next hour, kris machris mathews. >> good afternoon. i'm chris matthews in washington. hillary clinton was attacking donald trump's foreign policy positions, the real estate billionaire himself picked up major and long-awaited support. 29 days after trump became the presumptive nominee for the republican party house speaker paul ryan made it official and says he'll vote for trump in november. he made the announcement in a column in his hometown newspaper but at no point in the column does he say the words endorse or endorsement. luke russert joins us from capitol hill. is there a big meaning between i'll vote for guys and i'll endorse him?