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this isn't reality television. this is actual reality. we all know the tools donald trump brings to the table, bragging, mocking, comp sing nasty tweets. i'm willing to bet he's writing a few right now. >> imagine if he had not just his twitter account at his disposal when he's angry but america's entire arsenal. this election is a choice between two very different visions of america, one that's angry, afraid and based on the idea that america is fundamentally weak and in decline. the other is hopeful, generous and confident in the knowledge that america is great just like we always have been. >> good morning. it's friday, june 3rd. joe has the morning off, his son is getting married today. >> that's so exciting. >> with us on set we have
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legendary columnist and msnbc contributor mike barnicle, mark halperin, former communications director for president george w. bush, nicolle wallace and the president on the council on foreign relations richard last. you were going to be here to talk about hillary clinton's foreign policy speech. i'm really not sure why you are here now after watching that speech. there's no foreign policy in there. it was -- i actually thought she did a great, great job and there's kind of an interesting -- interesting dichotomy between her and donald trump that is developing now that we started talking about yesterday and we will play it out today. you will not believe some of this stuff. we begin with the violence outside of last night's donald trump event in san jose, california, as anti-trump
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protesters clashed with republican supporters. as the rally was still going on protesters cornered a trump supporting woman outside who remained smiling as protesters screamed in her face. then it turned uglier as the protesters began pelting her with food and eggs. the woman rarely flinched even as she is hit square in the jaw. >> oh, my god. >> she was then led into the hotel, multiple trump supporters were witnesses being mobd and attacked. in another instance a protester knocked the hat off a trump protester's head. other demonstrators proceeded to take the supporter's hat and burn it. the schblng police department announced one officer was assaulted and that they made a few arrests last night. the clinton campaign responded as well. john podesta writing violence by any supporters has no place in this election. >> more ron's. >> small compared to the crowds
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just perspective has to be kept, but still very ugly and, i mean, i guess we saw a little bit of this with mccain/palin? no. >> i never saw anything like that. >> there were a few tiny skirmishes. >> this was one woman facing a mob. take politics out of this. >> the hatred. >> this happened on a college campus the whole nation would convene this morning to figure out how to protect kids from a mob. this was a mob attacking a single person for simply exercising her right to support -- >> i never saw this. >> i've never seen this before. there's certainly hecklers are the more common political interruption but this violence directed toward a supporter is another new development in the cycle. >> here is a big political head line out of washington, something we talked about yesterday and, i don't know, i can't wait to hear nicolle's take on this. 29 days after donald trump was declared the presumptive republican nominee he has finally secured the vote of the
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party's top member in congress. house speaker paul ryan revealed his endorsement in an op-ed yesterday citing sump ses commitment to the policy agenda. quote, i feel confident he would help us turn the ideas into this agenda into laws to help improve people's lives and that's why i will be voting for him this fall. ryan later told the "associated press" that he and trump just needed to talk things out. >> i didn't know the guy at all before he got the nomination. quite frankly, i didn't expect the nomination to be clinched until june 7th at the earliest. so i never had the time to put the time into talking with donald about just the country, about principles and policies. >> it's very clear to me that hillary clinton is in no certain way going to be advancing our principles and policies. she's promising another obama
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term and it's also become clear to me through my conversations that donald trump is somebody i know is comfortable with these principles and these general policies. and it's basically coming to that conclusion, which you can't do over the phone one time, it takes a little time to make sure you have a comfort level with these things. >> that's a good way of putting it. yet another republican, top republican, goes down. for no reason. with no actual information on what it is that really convinced him, just good conversations. >> he seems super psyched. >> he seems super psyched. >> mr. ryan, paul ryan -- paul ryan, think about this, the guy who i think -- >> our great hope, yes. >> -- is the reap's great hope, is an honest, good -- >> principled. >> -- principled man of
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character. the "washington post" says this: on thursday mr. ryan capitulated to ugliness. it was a sad day for the speaker, for his party and for all americans who hoped that some republican leaders would have the fortitude to put principle over partisanship, job security or the forlorn fantasy that mr. trump will advance a traditional gop agenda. >> this is so sad. what -- i mean -- >> he started it yesterday. >> if he had a good reason i want to hear t i'm all for t i'm all for those meaningful conversations leading to something and hearing something really good from donald trump about what exactly he's going to do to lead the party forward or help make america great again. tell me what it was, paul ryan, because you just sold out. you just completely sold out. >> in fairness mitch mcconnell said it was the judges. he sat here tuesday --
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>> mitch mcconnell said it was the judges and i said to him is there anything donald trump has said in his campaign or life that will lead you to believe that he will keep his word on the judges nd he had nothing. >> he's got two alternatives and he believes trump will nominate more conservative judges. he wants tax reform, trump would sign tax reform that hillary clinton wouldn't sign. i mean, it's not his first choice or top hundred, but of the two left remaining of people he could endorse he had no choice. >> what about not endorse sng. >> he had no choice. he is the speaker of the house. he's trying to get legislation passed. one of two people will be president come january. he had no choice. i think it's amazing he delayed as long as he did and i think he delayed until probably until the last possible minute, but this is the republican nominee picked by republican voters. i want to say because i didn't get the chance to say before what those people did in san diego is outrageous and law enforcement in san diego really dropped the ball. you can't let a situation like that occur.
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>> a mob, right. >> i agree. >> i will tell you the cleveland convention, if the cleveland police don't do a huge debrief of the people out in san diego and figure out how that happened -- >> okay. >> ryan had no choice. >> to your point of ryan had no choice which is pathetic because this election is unlike any other. the rule book has been thrown out. so that no choice thing, put it pack into the '80s and '90s and early 2000s because there are new rules and people ought to start living by their own rules and living by their principles and paul ryan can do this. let me read this from the post. this is paul ryan when he talked about feeling like trump can really stand up for the agenda. this is fanciful. as mr. ryan must understand, judging by his wild swings of position over the years mr. trump does not believe in much of anything. the convictions that he does hold against free trade and u.s. leadership abroad for dividing
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the nation by et isity are antithetical to the principles mr. ryan says guide him. having secured the nomination without mr. ryan's help president trump would not feel bound by any assurances that mr. ryan believes he has heard from the candidate. paul, he's not going to do anything for you because you did this. he's not going to pay you back. it's pathetic. he sold out. i'm sorry. he did have a choice and he made one that was weak. let's bring in luke russert who covers capitol hill. luke, read between the lines in the ryan op-ed. is he trying to say something else without saying it? >> good morning, mika. i think there's a few things at play here. what mark said i agree with, that he is the speaker of the house, over 250 republicans there, a lot of them are starting to go over to trump's side, many of them committee chairmen so he was between a rock and hard place. he was on this island as the only congressional republican
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leader who had not endorsed donald trump. all that being said, the spin from ryan world is that over the last couple of weeks they have had really positive conversations between the staffs and that trump and his people have essentially committed to in the first 100 days of the trump administration working with ryan on issues where they see eye to eye. issues like tax reform that you just mentioned, not issues like free trade, entitlement reform where they are on divergent paths. all that being said, paul ryan next week is going to unveil the house gop agenda. it is titled, quote/unquote, a better way. what's the first issue up next week? poverty. it is their belief that donald trump and his team after the assurances given to their team will take the house gop agenda and either run with it this election or at least go with it when he becomes president. they believe that because donald
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trump has no concrete domestic policy and they control the floor, the house of representatives, the most important domestic policy role in the country, that they will, in fact, have the playbook for the first 100 days and trump can either work with them or not, this is an olive branch and they think that by -- just by the nature of what would happen they will have to. so i think ryan over the course of getting to know trump perhaps got some assurances from his staff saying, hey, we can work with these guys, a lot of this was organized by paul manafort volunteered long time connection was a lot of people in the house gop leadership world, but i can tell you from conversations i had also this was not easy by any means for the speaker >> luke, let's get back to the numbers that you just mentioned. how much of paul ryan's endorsement of donald trump yesterday do you think had to do withholding together a potentially recalcitrant group
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of gop congressmen? >> i think that's part of it, but, look, the house gop conference, they have now come along to trump, but a lot of them have different problems with him. is he severely conservative enough? there are questions about his role in the executive branch and whether he would be respectful of the legislative. i think what ryan did was try to get some assurances for some of those guys that, hey, trump would be a guy we could do business with and also this idea that hillary clinton as you saw in that op-ed is four years of liberal cronyism just like president obama that we can't see again. let's flash forward, let's say there is a president trump, he's going to need ryan and ryan will be the only person who in theory could cobble together the votes for anything that trump wants to do. so ryan to some degree here i would argue is, while certainly looking weak to the outside world, internally is exercising some internal power of saying,
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okay, if this does happen we're going to go on the issues we see eye to eye on and we're going to go to the issues that i would be willing to work with you on. by the way, there is a caveat here in the op-ed. if he wants to speak his mind ryan is going to allow himself to do that, he has already done that with the ban on the muslims, with trump being slow to disavow association with the kkk, i would imagine if it got really ugly on the immigration reform ryan would speak up again. if trump goes down 2020, look out. >> how is he going to explain that. richard haass? >> luke said it was a question of if and when ryan did this, i think the third thing is how and if he could have coupled his statement with the principal issues that luke was talking about. i think that that would have probably made for a stronger day. politically you could argue he was boxed in. i think it would have been helpful with him saying this is what my agenda is and he could
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have then made his endorsement in that context. >> what i see happening on the democratic side are candidates like bernie sanders and people like elizabeth warren, i don't know this, but they are requiring something of her and they are requiring something of her in the moment. what has trump given anybody in the moment of these republican members? what has he said publicly that would make paul ryan said, he's heard me, we're connected, i can count on him. what has he said to mitch mcconnell publicly that can make mitch mcconnell feel confident that he is going to follow through on his world? what has he done to unite the country in a peaceful way now that he's clinching. >> judges and tax reform. >> he has given a list and he's going to stick by that list. >> that was the mcconnell piece and i think you're right. listen, i want to give paul ryan some credit for agonizing publicly over this. i mean, there was a courage piece in what he did. >> which is now gone. >> he was the oxygen to all the
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republicans who were trying to articulate some principle, who were trying to respect the will of our voters with whom we have clearly lost that connection on policy, right, so the republican establishment has been championing free trade and spread of democracy our base has not wanted those things for a decade. but there is a principled objection to trump. jeb bush has articulated that. there are still republicans in the movement, deeply distrustful of trump and paul ryan was their oxygen for a long time. i think their despair over the decision yesterday was something that paul ryan was aware of and i think he tried to balance it as long as he could, but the crush -- the crush of understanding the will of our base and understanding -- i mean, there is an ability in listening to your voters as well. so i think paul ryan did a better job than anybody else at trying to balance the will of our voters, this is not -- this wasn't -- >> he didn't buy the nomination, he was elected. >> right. and so i think paul ryan was trying to listen to what our
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voters were saying which was so profoundly different from what anyone thought they would say and sort of the will of the principle conservative policy apparatus that he has been a part of for his entire career. >> so when democratic senate minority leader harry reid was asked for a response his office sent back this, the photo of a waving white flag. >> i tried. >> a spokesman added this in a statement, quote, senator mcconnell spent years beating back thoughtful policy engagement and stood ideally by while hateful rhetoric -- >> there's two big objections to trump, one is some of his policy positions of free trade with some things he said about healthcare. >> and foreign policy. >> and foreign policy. the other is his style, right? some of the things he said that people think are way over the line. mcconnell, i think, and ryan are
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hoping, betting -- hoping, praying, that trump changes on the second category, that he acts in a more presidential and dignified way, he stops insulting people, et cetera. on the first category, they have no choice, this is what the voters and base of the morning want but they have common ground on policy. >> insults to susan in a martinez when he was in her state, when he ripped her to shreds, he is now rolling those back. >> yeah. >> but he said that. he blurted them out with absolutely no discipline, just like some child in the street talking to other kids. >> well, you know him. why is he getting worse? i mean, i've asked you and joe. he's getting worse as a candidate. >> i don't know. i'm kind of disappointed in some ways because you want the conversation to be good for the country and it's not. and i was certain that -- in fact, he said he was going to pivot a lot toward the general and it's almost like he's
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doubling down on things that are destructive, divisive and not unifying and he is getting, quite frankly, applauded for it by having top republicans actually endorse him and endorse this behavior. i'm sorry, there are certain comedians and reality stars that if they decided to run for president on the democratic side i would think that claire mccaskill and top democrats would say, huh-uh, not doing this. >> maybe 29 days before her convention claire mccaskill would write an op-ed like this. who knows? >> i don't think so. i could be wrong, but i think -- i agree with the "washington post," an independent newspaper. luke russert, thank you very much. now to the fast moving floodwaters in texas that have left five soldiers dead and emergency crews in a desperate search for four others still missing. it happened in fort hood texas, 70 miles north of austin. according to the army the
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soldie soldiers' military vehicle overturned in a creek during a training exercise, 12 soldiers were in the vehicle at the time, at least three soldiers rescued from the waters and taken to the hospital. five were killed and the search continues for four others remaining missing. a spokes plans tells us that intense storms were not a decision in deciding whether to cancel the training exercise. we have people training in all weather. fort hood's commanding general posted a statement saying in part we are deeply saddened by the loss of several troopers and continue search operations. your thoughts and prayers are greatly appreciated during this difficult time. we should turn to bill karins for a check on this weather. >> more people die from flash flooding in this country than typically do from hurricanes and tornadoes. it's like that untalked about killer. this was from yesterday, too, began bury, texas, the week tried to make it through that
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raging flood water. they almost got to the other side and then pinned up against the trees. here is the advice from the people on the shore. >> get out. get out. >> get out. >> do not underestimate the power of water. >> can't say that often enough. those people survived luckily with their lives and dog. if that people, a couple feet shorter they would have been victims, too, mika. >> we will be watching the forecast. still ahead on "morning joe" we will dig into hillary clinton's brutal attacks against donald trump's foreign policy yesterday. wow, she did not hold back. we will have trump's response to that. double down on the conversation we just had. plus from the republican leadership congressman tom cole reacts to his boss publicly backing donald trump. we're good. okay...
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i watched hillary's thing today which was hard. it's like taking sominex. have you ever heard of sominex? sleep all night.
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it's hard to stay awake. i'm not a big sleeper. i think she could make more money if she made speeches and sold them for people that can't sleep. now to hillary clinton's national security speech where she touted her record as skrth working with allies and staring down rivals and mocked donald trump's foreign policy ideas one after another. >> i believe in strong alliances, clarity in dealing with our rivals and a rock solid commitment to the values that have always made america great. donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. they're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. he is not just unprepared, he is
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temperamentally unfit. this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. >> he has said that he would order our military to carry out torture. he says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials because he has, quote, a very good brain. he also said, i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. do you know what, i don't believe him. >> i will leave it to the psychiatrist to explain his affection for tyrants. he praises dictators like vladimir putin and picks fights
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with our friends including the british prime minister, the mayor of london, the german chancellor, the president of mexico and the pope. >> he says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the miss universe pageant in russia. and it's no small thing when he suggests that america should withdraw our military support for japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons and he said this about a war between japan and north korea, and i quote, if they do, they do. good luck. enjoy yourself, folks. i wonder if he even realizes he's talking about nuclear war. >> i remember being in the situation room with president obama debating the potential bin
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laden operation. the president's advisors were divided and the risks of failure were daunting. it was a decision only a president could make. and when he did, it was as crisp and courageous a display of leadership as i've ever seen. now, imagine, donald trump sitting in the situation room making life or death decisions on behalf of the united states. imagine him deciding whether to send your spouses or children into battle. imagine if he had not just his itter account at his disposal when he's angry, but america's entire arsenal. >> okay. so, you know, i've sometimes been critical of hillary clinton, her speeches being lists of policy ideas, no message. i will tell you when i watched that speech i sat up straight and i listened to every word. i thought that was incredible.
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it totally resonated. no one has been able to do this. everything she said cut. everything she said was true. everything she said completely resonated. it was the most devastating attack on donald trump that we have seen so far. the only one who ever came close was elizabeth warren but i will tell you this was presidential and this was her basically writing him off and going like this, good-bye. you want that? you want that, or do you want this? someone who has been there and actually knows what it's like. or do you want crazy? do you want crazy running this country? she literally found a way to really connect with people, with a message and an attack, a nasty attack i might add, and she was awesome. she was awesome. i don't know where that came from, but it might be because donald trump at this point is such an easy target and republicans who are tying themselves in knots trying to
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figure out how to get behind him really ought to be looking for another candidate. nicolle, why did this resonate? >> the earth was softened for her by people like mitt romney, marco rubio, jeb bush and bob gates who had made pieces of this case in their objections, much -- >> but it never resonated. >> it never resonated because i think when it comes from within the party it looks like self-sabotage. it's the issue i talked about before, put them at odds with the base of the party. i actually think that this started when bob gates said to you the question of temperament because trump came on the next day and had clearly gotten under his skin. >> and attacked a foreign policy icon. >> a revered figure in the foreign policy establishment, someone respected across the aisle, criticized his temperament, suggested he may be unfit. hillary clinton maybe saw or learned that that had gotten under his skin. the whole way to run against
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donald trump, it's psychological, it's belittle him or mock him and she did both to great effect. now, we have to give trump credit, he will come roaring back. >> it doesn't matter. he has. i've got that for you. don't worry. i have him talking about it and he sounds like a buffoon. you're beginning to see. >> the important thing i would think for the clinton campaign, for secretary clinton herself, is that the performance yesterday. >> was perfect. >> the visual performance. most americans meaning their presidential candidates it's a visual handshake, it's tv, you are not going to meet your candidate in the mall on saturday, but the visual presentation was excellent. >> it was. >> she was excellent. >> she was searing. >> she basically said to the country i am running for president of the united states. i'm running against a guy in a red hat and you see trump in these clips, you know, yelling something that people have accused hillary clinton of doing, yelling and screaming, except she was absolutely dead
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on. for my thinking would be that what she did yesterday, mark, was to basically define and set in cement a donald trump that she's going to run against from here on in. >> she raidsed the occasion in terms of performance, confidence, humor and an assuredness. if she wins the election i think people will look at yesterday's speech as basically the beginning of the general election. richard, to the extent that it was about foreign policy, is there a difference for voters in terms of what she believes and what trump believes that you think cuts in her favor? >> absolutely. it didn't come through that much yesterday but what she was going after was his lack of knowledge and the temperament. but, yes, hillary clinton is squarely in really the post world war ii, post cold war mainstream of american foreign policy. she is essentially a realist, you can see large similarities between her and president bush the father and others, the eisenhowers, the nicks ones, donald trump is not.
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he represents closer to robert taft, it's a minimalist view of america's role in the world. hillary clinton says our relations with allies benefit us in the net donald trump sees it differently. what you really have, quite honestly, is a choice, a fundamental different vision of the world, of the costs and benefits of foreign policy, but hillary clinton, yeah, she is the establishment traditional voice. donald trump represents something of a radical departure and i think that's what she was beginning to get at. >> madeline albright said that she teaches a course at georgetown called i think it's called -- on decision-making and she said donald trump would flunk the course. he is completely -- >> impulsive. >> unqualified. >> even though he ran a university. >> right, he has trump u. i have to tell you i think he has the talent to pivot and he is throwing it away and i don't know why. and it goes back to what joe has
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said, you have said, nicolle, he must not -- he must have gotten add and decided, this is too -- this is too hard. i don't want to do this. like the lifestyle would be too hard. because he could do this, he's got the talent, he's got the ability, he's got the platform. >> he is a smart guy and he is no the acting like it. >> he is throwing it away. donald trump responded to hillary clinton's speech and this will back up what we just said, telling the "wall street journal" it, quote, wasn't a foreign policy speech, it was a hate speech. she can't talk about foreign policy because she's made so many mistakes. and at his rally in san jose he claimed her remarks were motivated by the controversy over her e-mail server. >> i watched hillary today, it was pathetic. it was pathetic. she's up there and supposed to be a foreign policy speech, it was a political speech. it had nothing to do with foreign policy. she made a political speech tonight, folks, and it was a
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pretty pathetic deal. when you watched her today she does not look presidential. that i can tell you. she doesn't. >> anything obama wants she's going forward with because, do you know why, she doesn't want to go to jail. that's why, folks. that's why. remember hillary clinton used to hate obama. she used to hate him. bill clinton hated him. bill clinton hated him. he called bill clinton a racist. do you remember that? bill clinton hated him. and hillary clinton hated obama. now it's, yes, sir, mr. president, sir. yes, sir. what would you like? what would you like me to say here, sir? the only reason she's behaving like this and the only reason she's been dragged so far left, believe me, is she doesn't want to go to jail over the e-mails. okay?
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believe me. >> i mean, this is -- look, i'll speak directly. winning the numbers for the nomination was a moment to take a step and unify the country and deliver a hopeful message and donald trump missed that moment and he is still playing to the base, he is still playing to hate. he missed the moment where he could take this election and win it by being presidential may be a word that annoys him, but by being a leader and instead he still sounds like a ring leader of a circus, of a circus comedy. what should he have done at this point? what are one of the plethora of opportunities he could have taken yesterday instead of ranting, screaming on stage, half-sentences that really say nothing, that throw mud back but not half as well as she did? >> so i thought that what you
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said is exactly right. like her presentation and her message and the case against trump was her at her high point, but he could have been at his high point yesterday and detailed a completely takedown of everything that's flawed about the iran deal. the iran deal remains unpopular among all republicans and some democrats because it lifts sanctions without requiring better behavior from the iranians. there is a policy response to what clinton did yesterday and he actually had the opportunity to sound more presidential. if he had really thought through and had a strategy about what to do with himself yesterday i would have advised him to surround himself with the foreign policy types that back his candidacy, articulate what is wrong with the iran deal, maybe point out that there are some unanswered questions about benghazi. the reason republicans are so despondent this cycle is because there is a legitimate foreign policy critique of the clinton/obama foreign policy and he is not making it. >> absolutely.
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his critique of hillary clinton has essentially been one of character and one of judgment. and yesterday would have been an effective day for him to have raised not the character issues he was just yelling about, but the judgment issues. and he could have talked about iraq, he could have talked about libya, could have talked about iran. syria. there's enough in the obama foreign policy -- >> could he really have talked about those countries? he gave that peach three weeks ago. >> he could have been a take out of some of the things he did a few weeks ago and indirectly that would have helped offset some of the points she was making about temperament. one of the problems of what we just saw was it played into hillary clinton's critique. it didn't look presidential, it was -- you almost had a role reversal yesterday where she was calmer and more restrained, he was yelling in front of the crowd and it actually underscored her point about temperament and that's exactly what he didn't want to do yesterday. >> as happy as her campaign was with her performance, they looked at his response and they were even happier. >> right. coming up, donald trump goes
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after the federal judge presiding over the case against trump u. again, he claims his plans to build a wall on the mexican border makes it a conflict of interest. we're back in a moment. >> if donald trump is going to do what he says he's going to do we are going to be at war with every country in the world and those that we are not at war with they are going to be at war with each other. by the way, i am a professor at georgetown university and i teach a course on decision-making. donald trump would flunk my course. i think she did a really fascinating job in combining the political part of this with a substantive foreign policy speech. but the bottom line is she made very clear that donald trump is dangerous for the united states and for the world.
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43 past the hour. yesterday we reported there is more here as we continue down this -- what is this road? as we reported that the woman in charge of the hispanic outreach for the rnc stepped down in no small part because of donald trump. there is now a new two number that role, a woman who had to delete some tough tweets she had written against donald trump. we will explain that ahead. some cash back cards are, shall we say, unnecessarily complex. limiting where you can earn bonus cash back...
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46 past the hour with paul ryan finally supporting him, donald trump is reaching out to another republican leader, new mexico governor susana martinez. >> oh, yeah. >> trump criticized for crime and letting in syrian refugees while campaigning in albuquerque last week. in an interview with martinez's hometown newspaper yesterday trump said plainly that he wants her backing and even complemented her. quote, i'd like to have it, her support, i respect her. i have always liked her. >> can we stop right here? >> yeah. >> can we stop right here? >> we should. >> i mean, mark, you've been with the campaign, with the trump campaign, more than any of us have been. what prompts him to on a dime turn around from attacking her, belittling her, within the space of a week, to this absurdly, you know, made up statement that i've always liked her.
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>> he has always liked her even when he was making fun of her. one of the untold, unwritten stories so far is the attempts to influence him now. who is trying to influence him, how do they do it, how effective is it? when he is out on the plane and out on the trail he generally does what he wants to do, then occasionally they will circle up, have a discussion and he will follow orders. >> who is in the discussion? >> lots of different people. >> family members. >> family members, but also, you know, cory lewandowski, paul manafort. not that many others. but the donors -- the donors are putting pressure on no to you say -- the bundlers, you know, just day to day. you have to be with our team. you can't be insulting members of our team. >> what's paul ryan thinking watching that flip-flop? >> they're glad he's trying to fix it. you can't unring the first bell but you can ring another bell and that's what they're trying to do. >> it speaks to something in his brain. he talks about his brain.
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>> it means we can't believe anything he says essentially. >> mika, he wasn't a republican two years ago, he was for universal healthcare. >> what's paul ryan thinking? listen, donald trump is doing what donald trump does, i think he is now throwing at i way the election. i always thought he would do this well, i always did. i now wonder -- it's not my call, but the republican party, those leaders, it is their call to stand for principle in washington and to support people who they think have what it takes to lead this country and their party and they're getting behind donald trump when he has given them nothing but hate speech? >> he is the high goo i who got more votes than anyone has ever gotten running for the republican nomination. >>est that the party's problem right now. >> it is. >> that's what sarah palin did years ago. >> the party is strong below the presidential level, they control all the house, the senate, all -- >> governors. >> state legislatures, lots of governors. they're missing a president and for them they've got a guy who
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shakes things up, is in sync with the desire for change and he is the only republican nominee. what else do you want them to do? >> it's not what i want. i'm thinking they might want to stick to their principles but they're not. >> well, there is that little thing with our voters, i mean, our voters picked him. >> at this point it's too late for that. you have to respect what happened in the primaries so that's done. now you're fighting over the platform, what the candidate says -- >> aren't you fighting over whether or not someone is competent and qualified and will lead the country in the right direction? i'm confused. new lie hired head of the hispanic outreach has spent much of the last year raising doubts about the party's presumptive nominee. in tweets that have since been deleted helen aguirre ferre frequently criticized donald trump including as recently as last no nt when she tweeted
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today in golf, anybody see what happened? they moved the world golf championship which used to be cadillac, a great response or, by the way, cadillac and they wanted it longer, they moved the world golf championships from miami to mexico city. can you believe it? >> you vote for donald trump as president, if i become your president, this stuff is all going to stop. >> there's no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf course deal. but it doesn't work like that in world affairs. just like being interviewed on the same episode of 60 minutes as putin was is not the same thing as actually dealing with putin. >> it's a very good point, isn't
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it? welcome back to "morning joe." it is friday, june 3rd. joe has the morning off. with us on set we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, richard haass, managing editor of boom berg politics john heilemann and president and founder of the eurasian group, ian bremmer. there is this foreign policy speech that you all were booked for but it really was more of a minnesota gun man gun of attacks on donald trump and very good ones, they well delivered resonating attacks. so brexit, should we talk about that? why not, right? up or down? >> brexit i would say it's about 49/51. it's all about turn out. no, i mean, frankly it has to do more with what the weather is going to be on the day. if we get a lot of people to show up, if you can where the
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passion is against europe right now, but where the average sensibility is with europe. >> so donald trump didn't know what it was, can you explain to viewers just in case what it is and then up or down, richard haass? >> let me see if i get this right. otherwise i lose my job. several years ago in order to maintain peace within his party the prime minister of great britain, david cameron, head of the conservative party essentially dealt with the dissent, the anti-european tradition and forces within his own party by promising a referendum in several years. this day has arrived and is coming in approximately three weeks. there is a vote, it is as ian said evenly poised, the request he is whether great britain stays within the european union or whether it exits, hence brexit. >> there is our foreign policy discussion for the day. we're going to begin this hour with hillary clinton's national security speech. >> that's it? >> we will now move on. >> i did not hear her talking
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about world issues so much as what we're supposed to somehow you where she touted her record as secretary of state. by the way, i thought -- my gosh, i thought this was just executed with precision. she talked about working with allies, staring down rivals and mocked donald trump's foreign policy ideas one after another. >> i believe in strong alliances, clarity in dealing with our rivals and a rock solid commitment to the values that have always made america great. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. they're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. >> he is not just unprepared, he is temperamentally unfit. this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes
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because it's not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. >> he has said that he would order our military to carry out torture. he says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials because he has, quote, a very good brain. he also said, i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. do you know what, i don't believe him. >> so it really matters that donald trump says things that go against our deepest held values. it matters when he says he'll order our military to murder the families of suspected terrorists. during the raid to kill bin laden whenever second counted our seals took the time to move
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the women and children in the compound to safety. donald trump may not get it, but that's what honor looks like. >> it's a choice between a fearful america that's less secure and less engaged with the world and a strong confident america that leads to keep our country safe and our economy growin growing. >> we're choosing our next commander in chief, the person we count on to decide questions of war and peace, life and death. and like many across our country and around the world, i believe the person the republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job. >> ian bremmer, your take on hillary clinton's foreign policy speech. >> look, hillary clinton does foreign policy.
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policy is foreign to donald trump. and what she had to do with this speech was address the i'm with stupid crowd and i think she started to do that, frankly. you know, she's not -- she's very vulnerable on lots of foreign policy issues, she hasn't exactly won a lot of things that she's done in the obama administration, most of the things he has accomplished on foreign policy aren't on her watch. you look at cuba, you look at the iran deep and tpp which is a big deal she's distanced herself are from. that's not where she's have you will nerable, she's vulnerable with the people who say we don't care about foreign policy. it's dangerous to put a guy like this in, even though you want a little crazy. that's what she's starting to do with the speech in my view. >> richard haass, president of the council for foreign relations has donald trump spoken there, how is he being received by the community. >> he has not taken us up on our
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offer. hillary clinton, among others, did. many of the republican candidates did. bernie sanders also did not. look, he is outside the foreign policy mainstream on many issues, as you would expect, mika, most of the foreign policy establishment, whatever you want to call it, has real problems with his views about allies, the kind of transactional approach to allies and in general i think people have discomfort with his fairly pinched or minimalist approach to the world, essentially seeing the world as an expensive dangerous place that america ought to distance itself from. that is not where most of the foreign policy establishment is, they favor a larger american role in the world, even if there is a serious debate about military footprint in places like the middle east and the rest. that's where the dig divide has been, how much you should try to transform countries using military forces. that's the iraq and afghanistan debate, but most of the foreign policy establishment i would say is traditionally bipartisan, comfortable with free trade, comfortable with american
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alliances in american and asia, comfortable with american leadership. >> go ahead. >> what did you think of the presentation? >> i thought that -- that donald trump has learned in the last two days first from barack obama on wednesday night and yesterday from hillary clinton what it's like to now play against major league pitching. you think about what happened over the course of the republican nomination fight, you had not a single person took donald trump on in a sustained well executed strategically focused funny biting way. barack obama did on wednesday night, hillary clinton did on thursday night and i think you're -- i think that is something he is not experienced yet in the course of the -- of his career in national politics and it's an interesting preview of what the fall is going to look like. those two players, barack obama and hillary clinton, when they are on attack, then they are on offense, they know how to play the game. >> let's bring in msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt live in los angeles.
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kasie, you were at the speech yesterday. what stood out for you? >> i think what john was just talking about actually really captures what stood out, especially in the room. hillary clinton was mocking donald trump, but in this serious way that seemed to elevate her. i think we saw all of those republican rivals of trump's try to go after him and really end up just looking smaller for doing so, whereas i think this has certainly stood out to me as a real moment for hillary clinton and i also think it highlighted how comfortable she is going to be in going after trump because it seems to be a deeply held conviction for her. i think campaigning against bernie sanders if you talk to her aides they'll privately acknowledge that dancing on the head of that pin that is a primary election can be tougher for her and that she's much more comfortable is it helping into this role. you could really feel it in the room. she had the audience on her side, they were ready to be mocking trump, she seemed to
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play off of that. it felt like one of her kind of more natural moments, if you will. i think they were going for a couple audiences with this particular speech. they're going for people like richard haass, national security elites who might be, you know, uncomfortable with what donald trump brings to the table, they're going for suburban women, white women, who maybe, you know, in previous elections have been late to come around to hillary clinton, but who she obviously is really going to need and then, you know, they think that maybe they can pick up some white male voters with this line of attack or this focus on national security, raising questions whether donald trump commander in chief they know it's not a group they're like will i to win in the end but if they can it's going to be a message like this that wins them over. >> donald trump responded to hillary clinton's speech telling the "wall street journal," quote, it wasn't a fn speech, it was a hate speech. she can't talk about foreign policy because she has made so many mistakes.
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at his rally in san jose he claimed her remarks were motivated by the controversy over her e-mail server. >> i watched hillary today, it was pathetic. it was pathetic. she's up there and supposed to be a foreign policy speech. it was a political speech. it had nothing to do with foreign policy. she made a political speech tonight, folks, and it was a pretty pathetic deal. when you watched her today she does not look presidential, that i can tell you. she doesn't. >> ted cruz is no longer a liar. we don't applyisay lyin' ted an. i'd love to pull it out and use it on lyin' crooked hillary. anything obama wants she's going forward with because do you know why? she doesn't want to go to jail. that's why, folks. that's why. remember hillary clinton used to hate obama. she used to hate him.
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bill clinton hated him. bill clinton hated him. he called bill clinton a racist. do you remember that? bill clinton hated him. and hillary clinton hated obama. now it's, yes, sir, mr. president. sir. yes, sir. what would you like? what would you like me to say here, sir? the only reason she's behaving like this and the only reason she's been dragged so far left, believe me, is she doesn't want to go to jail over the e-mails. okay? believe me. >> god. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. i mean, is that what you all are thinking? >> yes, but that speech is not for the foreign policy establishment, that speech is not for the establishment. and i think we need to be clear about that. i mean, everyone that listened to hillary clinton's speech last night on the republican and democratic side that does foreign policy said, yes, that's what we want. we don't want trump.
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trump isn't going to get those votes. >> he already got those people that he's screaming at. >> yeah, but it's not clear to me that hillary has a lot of people that are really upset with just everything the establishment represents and richard haass' point earlier in the program i think is very important. there are real differences here, it's about people long america's role in the world has not in any way helped them. it's not just about putting troops everywhere. >> i get all that. >> yeah. >> but he's gotten those people. >> i don't think he's gotten all of those people. he's gotten those people in the republican primary. i personally think that if trump wins, if trump has any shot at winning it's truly all the way as an outsider saying we need chaos, we need to burn this place to the ground. i don't think he wins by engaging hillary on debates in iraq and syria and all the rest. he's not credible there at all. >> clearly he would lose. >> he would lose on that. of course he would. >> kasie hunt, hillary clinton doesn't really refer to him in a
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very respectful way. i think she calls him the donald or something. >> not quite the donald. >> oh. >> the one thing i would say watching that is donald trump hasn't really changed his style as he's moving into this general election. he's, okay, applying this nickname he used for ted cruz to hillary clinton. one thing that stuck out to me at hillary clinton's speech yesterday is that she does refer to him directly as donald, just donald, first name only, and the aides i talked to say that that was a deliberate choice because, you know, unlike many of the other people she has run against in the past or have gone for the nomination, governor romney, senator mccain and this long tradition of being careful to use them. we often refer to donald trump as mr. trump. people i talk to in clinton's camp say we're not going to go that route. donald is just going to be donald. we will see if it evolves into a nickname or gets into the style of donald trump and the way he
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mocks people with names. i'd be surprised if she went that far, but i do think it's noteworthy. >> okay. richard haass, then john heilemann. >> for donald trump it is a tightro tightrope. he can't play into the anti-establishment in america, but as hillary clinton argued yesterday there is a real risk there when it comes to foreign policy and national security. for him it's going to be a really difficult thing to pull off. can you be anti-establishment on certain things yet also reassuring on others. so far at least he hasn't quite made that case. >> she's making the argument that he's temperamentally and intellectually unsuited to the office and she predicts in her speech yesterday, she said i imagine he's going to be tweeting at me, insulting me, going to be going after him. he then -- first of all, he pre butts her speech with exactly the kind of tweets that she has predicted and then goes out and gives that speech last night that exemplifies the criticism she's making.
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she's saying you're temperamentally unsuited to the office and he goes out on stage and says lying hillary, crooked hillary. for people who are not already in trump's camp or clinton's camp who have questions about is he temperamentally suited to be president of the united states i think not only was her speech well executed but she basically was trying to provoke exactly the response that she got because it's sort of a, well, there you see it right there, that's exactly what she's talking about. >> let's stick with that instead of the iq foreign policy deal that's going on here. most people in this -- >> these guys are way too smart for us. >> they meet their presidential candidates visually. the visually contrast this week between the president of the united states as you pointed out and then donald trump in the red hat and the visual difference between hillary clinton and donald trump yesterday, how long does donald trump have before that is set in cement? >> i don't think that much longer, you know, this is the
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period -- i'men among those people who believe that if you look historically at presidential elections that this is the period, the period of the spring and early summer is when the race is actually get decided. this race may be different because the debates are going to be such a huge event, given trump's uniqueness as a candidate, his choice of running mate is going to matter a lot. the conventions might matter more, but impressions for persuadable voters are starting to be formed in a serious way right now and this is why i think we've said on the set for the last few weeks this is a really important period and i think it's fair to say in the last two weeks basically trump has not been winning news cycles and winning the battle of perception in the way that he did consistently for six months or nine months before that. this has not been a good period of this campaign for him and this weekend and last 48 hours, 72 hours may be the worst in terms of the contrast you're talking about, mike, maybe the worst period for him in the entire campaign. >> yeah, definitely.
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kasie hunt, richard haass and ian premer, thank you all very much. still ahead on "morning joe," selling out or buying in? we'll talk about paul ryan's endorsement. boy, he must be feeling good this morning watching all that. yeah. glad i did that. that's a proud moment. anyhow, 29 days in the making that endorsement. plus, the polls get closer in the california primary and sanders supporters are still optimistic. >> nobody is even talk about this indictment. what happens with that? besides the trust issue of watching her in so many lies. >> there has been no indictment. >> no, but there's going to be. >> we don't know that. >> well, we don't know that he's not going to get the numbers, either. >> bernie sanders backers like susan certificate randen say there's still a way for the delegate math to work out their way. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. trolling for a gig with braindrone?
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so have you ever seen excitement in an endorsement?
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sometimes they will do them like with balloons and they will be just, we are getting behind our man. >> like a life changing experience. >> yeah. >> smiling, happy. >> merger of two political titans. >> you've discovered that this is the person that can lead us the way forward. >> inspiring. >> and you put your heart and soul into that endorsement because you believe in him and you believe in america. >> and then there is hostage videos. >> there's that, too. i've seen hostage videos and this doesn't really add up. this is more like i think i took too many meds and i'm really now kind of feeling sleepy, but it's definitely not one of those celebratory endorsements. take a look. paul ryan endorsing donald trump. >> hillary clinton is in no certain way going to be advancing our principles and policies. she's promising another obama term and it's also become clear to me through my conversations that donald trump is somebody i
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know is comfortable with these principles and these -- and these general policies. and it's basically coming to that conclusion, which you can't do over the phone one time. it takes a little time to make sure you have a comfort level with these things. >> sominex, i think that's what it was. >> fired up and ready to go. >> joining us now in washington nbc news political director moderator of "meet the press" and host of "mtp daily" chuck todd. kristen welker who is covering the clinton campaign. here on set former adviser to senator rand paul now a contributor to "time magazine" elise jordan. good to have you all on board. chuck, what am i missing here? my instinct that like "the washington post" so bluntly put it paul ryan capitulated to absolutely not, got absolutely nothing, and like mitch mcconnell and people who have
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been on this show, top republicans endorsing donald trump they're doing what they think they have to do, but it's going to ultimately end up biting them in the butt. >> can i just tell you when you showed that video literally when he said, well, hillary clinton is not going to sign these bills and then he like swallows hard and then says donald trump. i mean, you actually could see him swallow before he said the words. well, and donald trump said he would, you know -- basically he will promise to sign this piece of legislation and hillary clinton wouldn't. look, i think the pressure -- i don't think congressman paul ryan ever would have endorsed trump, but i think the speaker of the house had no choice and i think that that's the -- when you're -- if he was going to not endorse him then -- then it was probably his duty to do whatever it took to prevent trump from getting the nomination. at that point he's got that kind of leadership position in the party. if he wasn't willing to do that then i think as a -- i think the
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conclusion they came to as a leader of the political party, the voters chose this man, if he wanted to stay a republican he really had no choice. >> mark halperin. >> exactly correct. >> he would run out of runway, he extracted whatever he thought he could from trump. i think they have built something of a personal relationship and ryan just thought ahead to january. would he rather be trying to pass his agenda with hillary clinton or donald trump? >> right. >> and for all his misgivings and concerns about trump that i think you see in that endorsement video with the ap, he wants tax reform, he wants conservative judges, he wants a chance to reduce regulation. he thinks those things are significantly more likely with trump and as chuck said he had no choice. >> okay. >> as the speaker of the house. >> i want to know from elise jordan if there was a choice. i have to say, i mean, what does a candidate have to do or be to get a party to realize they need
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to find another one? is there anything more that could be happening here that would inspire them to realize they need to look for an alternative? >> well, i think that a lot of people are thinking about alternatives, but there is a six-month window here and what is to be done before the november election. what i do think that paul ryan did and what's so important is that he gave space to people who do want to oppose donald trump within the republican party. to a lot of the donors who aren't going to fill donald trump's coffers, to different people in down ballot races who can't whole heartedly support trump. i think that what ryan did was important in creating that space and saying, it's okay, you don't have to be all the way there. >> so "the washington post" editorial board writes this: mr. ryan's endorsement of trump is a sad day for the gop and america.
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>> well, you know, do you know who we should ask? >> i'm going to ask republican congressman tom cole what do you think? this is a man of principle and friend of the show. congressman cole, what is the
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answer to that question? >> what question? >> how does paul ryan explain to his kids if you are not a part of the problem you are -- >> look, he is the leader of the republican party in the house of representatives. >> yes, he is. >> his principal job is to preserve that majority and to advance its agenda and i think that's exactly what he's doing. you can't have a general election where you've got a speaker at war with the presidential nominee of his own party and frankly let's look at hillary clinton here a little bit. my gosh, she was on television last week telling you things that you know were not true about the inspector general report and his own activity. let's look at her ten tour as secretary of state. it was a debacle. libya, a russian reset that leads to the relitigation of borders in eastern europe, reestablishment of a terrorist state in the heart of the middle east. a retreat from iraq that was premature. we are now back there. you know, look, i think he didn't -- i can't embrace hillary clinton. he did what professionals do, he
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respected the choice of the voters of his own party. you know, he made it clear that he had some concerns, he worked through those concerns with the nominee and he issued an endorsement. i think it's really pretty simple. he did the right thing. >> congressman, we are all admiring your rhetorical moves here around the table, very skillful, but let's get back to paul ryan. how much pressure internally do you think or do you know existed within the house gop caucus on the speaker to endorse donald trump? >> i think the speaker -- there's certainly some pressure to do that. on the other hand you've got some other individual members that probably won't do that and that's fine, but the grass majority of the republican party would expect the republican speaker to endorse the republican nominee. for goodness sakes he has to preside over that convention, how can he do that without having, you know, committed to support the person that convention is going to nominate. i think when you don't have any choices you do the right thing and that's what he did here.
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there's not an alternative out there. and frankly, again, this is a choice. it's a choice between hillary clinton and donald trump at this point and frankly if you are a republican that's a pretty easy choice. there's nobody that unites and motivates republicans quite as much as hillary clinton. >> congressman, if you could wave a wand over donald trump and change either two of his positions or two of the ways he is conducted himself in this campaign what would you change? >> you know, first of all, i can't wave a wand so i don't spend a lot of time worrying about what i can't do, but what i would advise him to do, number one, is more no more toward a general election role. if i had to tick a particular position that would concern me the most it would be the ban on muslims. it's clearly unconstitutional, ill-advised, it would really hurt the united states. we need a lot of muslim friends to deal with what we're dealing with overseas and we have some great muslim friends. we ought to recognize that and be sensitive. so i think maybe being a little bit more nuanced in how you
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address things would be good advice for any candidate. >> what specific policy or direction do you like? >> i like the emphasis on tax reform, i like the emphasis on less regulation. frankly i think it's been a disastrous eight years and the idea that we would extend it just the whole emphasis on change frankly is welcome for me. hillary clinton is running as a status quo candidate, running as president obama's third term, those were her words. you are not going to get much change in direction with her. i think if you are a republican you desperately want a change in direction. >> congressman tom cole, thank you very much. we are going to go to kristen welker and look at the hillary clinton side of things. she's, i believe, here in california, right, where hillary clinton will be headed i would assume at some point you've got a big week ahead there. >> absolutely. mika, she has four campaign stops right here in the los angeles area today as she's trying to secure her own party's
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nomination still, but obviously she's trying to put the focus on donald trump, she's trying to go on offense on foreign policy. you all were just talking about foreign policy. obviously that was the goal of that speech that she gave yesterday, that 35-minute really blistering attack against donald trump. mika, what was interesting about it, the speech that so many democrats have been wanting had err to give, she found a way to mock donald trump while at the same time take his policy proposals deadly seriously, she picked them apart piece by piece. the fact that he hasn't enumerated his plans to fight isis, the fact that he said it would be okay if countries like south korea and japan got nuclear weapons and that proposed muslim ban. and one of the things you're hearing from democrats, it was an authentic speech, clearly she had a lot of help from her foreign policy advisors in terms of writing t but when she delivered it it was an authentic moment for her. when she has tried to take on
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senator sanders you hear a much more calculated hillary clinton because she's nervous about alienating his supporters. very different tone yesterday. it was in many ways some of her sharpest attacks against donald trump, i anticipate we will hear more of that on the campaign trail today and i'm also told she is going to go after him on donald trump university again. of course, donald trump escalating his attacks against the judge in that case, i wouldn't be surprised if we heard more about that on the campaign trail today. >> thank you. chuck, what do you have planned for sunday's "meet the press"? where do you go from here? >> i want to say one thing about yesterday's speech. you know, what was amazing was how -- where you really still see why donald trump doesn't have a lot of republican allies. he had so few surrogates come out and basically defend his foreign policy or even do what they could do it. i mean, there were so few republicans who sort of rallied to his side to either beat her
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up or defend the attacks against him. part of it is they are a campaign that didn't line that up, i mean, instead he calls up "the new york times" and responds and doesn't -- i mean, yesterday was a reminder that while paul ryan is on board the party really isn't on board. they didn't make a big effort yesterday to stave off these attacks and that was to me more remarkable and sort of under the radar than i think we all realize. >> it's, again, chuck, why i don't understand -- i know the party has to do what it has to do and all this stuff that you all who know a lot more than me say, but i think this is a different election. this is a different time. >> i think they're trying to have it both ways, mika. >> you can't have it both ways, that's what our parents taught us as well. i can't believe there isn't another candidate at this point that they would say, do you know what, i'd rather go down behind the right person than sell out america, my principles and everything i've worked for all
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my life to get behind somebody who i don't believe in. >> i mean, it is staggering, though -- what chuck said is important in terms of no other republicans were out there backing up donald trump yesterday. it's also -- it's not each just philosophy, it's a complete disorganization and lack of campaign structure on the trump part. they had nothing ready to do in response. they could have hit so many of hillary clinton's weakness on foreign policy and instead they had nothing. >> nothing. >> when she performs well and he performs well then she's also got barack obama, harry reid. >> there's no match. >> bill clinton, this huge operation of surrogates. trump just doesn't have that and as elise suggested it's basic block and tackling that they're doing. the fact that they are even in the polls now is creating a false sense among some republicans, this is our chance, we're going with this guy because this guy is even. >> shouldn't he be ahead right now actually? >> yes.
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>> the republican nominee, not donald trump. in this environment, the republican nominee actually should be ahead right now because of a fractured democratic party. that is a troubling sign if you are a republican that he isn't ahead at this point. >> we talked about this on our show yesterday, it's not just again -- we are talking about the hillary clinton thing and the fact that he doesn't have defenders in the party. you think about what proceeded that which has been just 24 hours earlier the trump university attacks which were first you had the newspaper stories reporting the facts, then democrats in unity going after trump on trump university and where were the voices defending trump? all there is is trump. he has no surrogate operation, he doesn't have members of congress rallying around him on that front, either. when i talked earlier about how there was a preview of what the general election looks like not only from the standpoint of strong attacks from obama and clinton but also that kind of story given by opposition research, out in the media, out in the bloodstream, democrats
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all student body left going after trump and trump trying to defend himself on his own with nothing really but his own mouth basically and no big squad on his side. it's a huge mismatch it felt like to me in the democrats favor in would he can. >> and the press is sympathetic to his attacks on foreign policy and trump university. >> i mean, so then, chuck, what do you have planned for sunday's "meet the press" or can you even at this point plan? it's so moment to moment. >> well, one special programming note thanks to our friends in nbc sports french open we are 8:00 a.m. all across the country. so you have to get up earlier. >> that's good. >> we have the chair of the party, the dnc, will figure out how she can unite the democrats. we will talk to her. mitch mcconnell and gary johnson. >> so mitch mcconnell yesterday actually tweeted -- >> he is so excited about trump as well apparently. >> so enthusiastic i've noticed
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all week. he can't wait. >> he tweeted something about not liking how nasty he is. this is something i don't like about him. so finally somebody had -- got a little bit of a spine. >> at this stage in the game. >> he has spent his entire book tour this week talking about everything he doesn't like about donald trump. it's been remarkable. >> what is going on? we will be right back. chuck, thank you. >> between him being a wild card as to what to expect or a reliable conservative, where does he fall on the spectrum? >> i think he's going to have to be pretty reliably conservative because the whole apparatus of the republican party is right of center. he's not going to reinvent what i think, i'm sure he's not going to reinvent what paul ryan thinks, either, or most of our members. i think he will be constrained by the nature of the party that is going to back him for president. and with regard to these sort of gratuitous attacks on allies, i
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think he ought to just simply stop it. members. thank you.
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texas, nbc news cress depend gabe gutierrez. what's the latest. >> reporter: earlier in year this unit had just returned from a nine-month deployment to south korea. now military officials are calling this tragedy a heart breaking accident. this morning a desperate search at fort hood, five soldiers killed, four now missing after a flash flood overturned a tactical vehicle like this one during a training exercise. >> they launched from owl creek and were floating when last seen in a military vehicle. >> reporter: three other soldiers rescued, hospitalized in stable condition. this military community is grieving. the commander general writing, we are deeply sat nd by the loss of several troopers and continue search operations. fort hood is vast, the largest active duty armored post in the country, spanning more than 200,000 acres.
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the vehicle overturned in a rugged heavy wooded area in the northeast part of the installation. >> this is owl creek, it runs right through the middle of the post right there, you can imagine that water after all the rain we've had was probably really, really moving. >> reporter: today most of texas is under a flash flood watch, the history high water swallowing anything in its path. fort bend county, whole neighborhoods ravaged. as we got on this helicopter we saw more storms in the distance. there was literally no place for the water to go. incredibly it could be days even weeks until the flood waters recede. neither people more animals are spare. this cattle rancher forced to move his herd across a highway and rail line using cowboys on horseback. >> moving them up to higher ground was a must. >> reporter: the devastation rippling across the lone star state.
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latinos for trump, that's what i like. i love that, latinos, we're doing well with latinos. nobody knows about it yet. we're bringing so many jobs in, you watch what happens. the hispanics, we love the hispanics, thank you, everybody. >> donald trump pointing out a supporters sign at his rally yesterday in san jose. meanwhile he's not backing down from his attacks on the judge overseeing the fraud lawsuit against the trump university. trump told the "wall street journal" that indiana-born judge gonzolo, mexican heritage, presents a quote, absolute conflict given the rhetoric on
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immigration and has pledged to build a wall along the board we are mexico. trump also told the paper that he may file a complaint against the obama appointee who this week unsealed court documents that revealed the trump university playbook. the documents show that some employees were told to play on emotions, while suggesting they rely heavily on credit card debt or retirement funds to play for the classes. despite the legal battle, trump took to twitter yesterday vowing to reopen the school if he wins the case. some of the former students said publicly they were pleased with the courses. it's important that you look at that trump university playbook, that's exactly why a lot of middle class americans feel screwed today because they relied heavily on credit card debt and retirement funds and bought homes they couldn't afford. and you could argue coerced into doing so by the big banks. with that as a backdrop, let's
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bring in political analyst and msnbc contributor, victoria, you've got to piece up for nbcnews.com in which you explain why trump will get 25, maybe 30% of the latino vote in november. i've said this before, haven't really been able to actually put my finger on why, but i believe he will get latino support. can you explain? >> yeah, a couple of reasons, first of all the latino electorate is not a monolith. while many lean with the democratic party, the biggest chunk of latinos are independents. they're a little bit more socially and fiscally conservative. so i think that is the sweet spot for donald trump. and just recently we've seen donald trump until a recent video addressed to the national hispanic christian leadership conference talk about how unfair it is that latinos are living in high-crime rates. that minority unemployment needs to be addressed. so i think that that's his in
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with latinos. in addition to that, i think his tone is going to change. of course, nothing is for certain with donald trump, but as we get closer to november, he's going to tone it down. he's not going to talk that much about the wall and instead talk about the need to combat unemployment and issues that minorities care about and finally, mica, donald trump's message at his core is an aspirational message, that's why we see middle class folks saying i want to be like donald trump, rich, successful, surrounded by beautiful people. and latinos, immigrant community is anything, if not aspirational, immigrants by definition are aspirational. they want a better life. sop i think that there may be a connection there with donald trump. then again, he has to pitch it just right in the next four, five, six months. >> what percentage of the hispanic vote do you think donald trump would have to reach in order to maintain competitiveness across the board? >> i mean definitely 30.
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i haven't even been, i've written it off completely. >> really? >> given the rhetoric, but you know, this is why victoria's column is interesting, she studied this extensively and she knows what she's talking about. and i have spoken with a lot of latino voters who ep they support legal immigration and they resent people coming into the country without going through all of the hoops that they went through. and so i think there is a divide within the hispanic community about immigration. and so that's something that trump could potentially exploit. >> victoria, you just heard elise say she doesn't think he's going to get much at all. what percentage of the vote does he have to get to maintain competitiveness across the board and do you think he can get there? >> well, what we've seen since the spike in latino population growth really happening around the end of the 1990s, we know that at least, 30, 33% of the
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latino vote is what is needed but then again, that is keeping constant everything else because with donald trump, we may see a surge in the white electorate coming out. so all else being equal, donald trump is going to need at least a third of the latino electorate coming out to vote. it's going to be tough, but if you really make a strong pivot, i think he can do it. and again, i think it's that aspirational tone. he's owning it whereas with mitt romney, he went to the extreme calling for self-deportation and then he tried to pivot. donald trump is saying look, we need to control immigration, but let's focus on the policies from now on and again, he has to tone down the rhetoric, that is a must. >> all right. victoria, thank you so much. up next, it's jobs report friday and today's number is the most important piece of data before the fed makes its decision on interest rate pms we're going to have that coming to you live. plus police move in after anti-trump protests turn violent
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in san jose last night, but not before ugly confrontations like one of trump's supporters getting cornered by an angry mob. and donald trump hits back after hillary clinton mocks his experience with one attack after another. blistering attacks. "morning joe k" is back in just moment. "i can totally do this in one trip" kind of woman. when pain tries to stop you, motrin works fast to stop pain. make it happen with motrin® liquid gels. also try motrin pm to relieve pain and help you sleep. first - they limit where you earn bonus cash back.es at you? then - those places change every few months? i think i'll pass... quicksilver from capital one puts nothing in your way. you simply earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. you can't dodge the question...
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i'm willing to bet he's writing a few right now. [ applause ] imagine if he had not just his twitter account at his disposal when he's angry, but america's entire arsenal. this election is a choice between two very different visions of america. one that's angry, afraid, and based on the idea that america is fundamentally weak and in decline. the other is hopeful, generation, and confident in the knowledge that america is great, just like we always have been. >> good morning, it's friday, june 3rd, joe has the morning off, his son's getting married today. >> that's so exciting. >> with us on set, legendary columnist. bloomberg politics, the cohost and with all do respect, 6:00 eastern on msnbc, former communications director for
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president george w. bush, nicole wallace and the president of the council on foreign relations, richard hauss, you were going to be here to talk about hillary clinton foreign policy speech. i'm not sure why you're here now after watching that speech. it was a good attack speech. it was strong. but there's, there's no foreign policy in there. it was -- i actually thought she did a great, great job, and there's kind of an interesting, interesting dichotomy between her and donald trump that's developing now. we're talking about that yesterday and we will play it out today, you would not believe some of of this stuff. we begin with the violence outside of last night's donald trump event in san jose, california, as antitrump protesters clashed with the republican supporters. as the rally was still going on, protesters cornered a trump-supporting woman outside who remained smiling as protesters screamed in her face. then it turned uglier as the protesters began pelting her
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with food and eggs. the woman rarely inch frommed, even as she is hit square in the jaw. she was then led into the hotel, multiple trump supporters were witnessed being mobbed and attacked. in another instance, a protester knocked the hat off a trump supporter's head and kicked the hat into the street as he shouted curses. others took the hat and burned it. the san jose said one officer was assaulted and made a few arrests last night. the clinton campaign responded as well. chairman john writing violence against supporters of any candidate has no place in this election. >> morons. >> i mean. >> again. >> again, small compared to the crowds and just perspective has to be kept, but still very ugly and i mean, i guess we saw a lot of this with mccain-palin, no? >> i never saw anything like that. >> there were tiny skirmishes.
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this is one woman. take politics out of this -- >> the hatred. >> this happened on that college campus, the whole nation would protect kids from a mob, this was a mob attacking a single person. >> disgusting. >> exercising her, you know, right to support. i've never seen this before. i mean. certainly, you know, hecklers are the more common political and eruption. this violence directed towards a supporter is another new development. >> well here's a big political headline out of washington. something we talked about yesterday. and i don't know, i can't wait to hear nicole's take on this. 29 day after donald trump was declared the presumptive republican nominee, he has finally secured the vote of the party top member in congress. house speaker paul ryan revealed his endorsement in an op ed yesterday siting trump's commitment to the republican policy agenda. quote, i feel confident he would
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help us turn the ideas into this agenda, into laws, to help improve people's lives, and that's why i'll be voting for him this fall. he and trump just needed to talk things out. >> i didn't know the guy at all. before we got the nomination. quite frankly i didn't expect the nomination to be clinched until june 7th at the earliest. so, i never had the time to put the time into talking with donald about just the country about principles and policies. it's very clear to me that hillary clinton is in no certain way going to be advancing our principles and policies. she's promising another obama term. and it's also become clear to me through my conversations that donald trump some day i know is comfortable with these principles and these general policies. and it's basically coming to that conclusion, which, you can't do over the phone one
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time. it takes a little time to make sure you have a comfort level wl these things. >> that's a good way of putting it. yet another republican, top republican goes down for no reason, with no actual information on what it is that really convinced him. >> he seemed super psyched. >> totally pieced. >> mr. ryan, paul ryan, paul ryan, think about this, the guy who i think most -- >> our great hope. >> is the republicans great hope, is an honest, good principle -- >> principled. >> man of character. the "washington post" says this, mr. ryan capitulated to ugliness, it was a sad day for the speaker, for his party and all americans who hope that some republican leaders would have the fortitude to put principle over partisanship, job security
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with a forlonged fantasy that mr. trump will advance a traditional gop agenda. this is so sad. >> he cited it yesterday. >> i want to hear it. i'm all for it. i'm all for those meaningful conversations leading to something, and hearing something really good from donald trump about what exactly he's going to do to lead the party forward or help make america great begin. tell me what it was, paul ryan, because you just sold out. >> well, in fairness, mitch mcconnell said it was the judges. i mean he sat here tuesday -- >> mitch mcconnell said it was the judges. i said is there anything donald trump has ever said that would lead you to believe that he will keep his word on the judges? and he had nothing. >> right. >> what do you think? >> he has two alternatives, he believes trump will appoint more conservative judges. he wants tax reform, trump would
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sign tax rumple that hillary clinton wouldn't sign. it's not his first choice or his top hundred, but of the two left remaining, he had no choice. >> what about not endorsing? >> no choice, he's the speaker of the house. he's trying to get legislation passed. one of two people will be president come january. he had no choice. i think it's amazing he delayed as long as he did, and i think he delayed almost the last possible minute, but this is the republican nominee picked by republican voters. >> to your point of ryan have no choice, which is pathetic because this election is unlike any other. the rule book has been thrown out. that no-choice put it back into the '80s, '90s, early 2000s, people ought to live by principles and paul ryan can do that. let me read from the post because certainly you wouldn't want to hear this from me. this is paul ryan when he talked about feeling like trump can stand up for the agenda, this is
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fanciful as mr. ryan must understand, judging bill his wild swings of position over the years, mr. trump does not believe in much of anything. the convictions that he does hold against free trade and u.s. leadership abroad for dividing the nation by religion and ethnicity are ant theft call to the principles mr. ryan has said guide him. having secured the nomination without mr. ryan's help, president trump would not feel bound by any assurances that mr. ryan believes he has heard from the candidate, paul, he's not going to do anything for you because you did this. he's not going to pay you back. it's pathetic. he sold out. i'm sorry. he did have a choice, and he made one that was weak. let's bring in msnbc news correspondent luke ruszer who covers capitol hill. read between the lines, in the ryan op ed, is he trying to say something else without saying it? am i missing something here? >> well good morning, mica, i think there's a few things at
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play here, what mark said i agree with, he's the speaker of the house of the republican conferences can be over 250 republicans there, a lot are starting to go over to trump's side. many of them committee chairman. he was on this island as the only congressional leader that had noz endorsed donald trump. it was not a question of if, it was a question of when it was going to happen. all that being said, the spin from ryan world is that over the last couple of weeks, they've had positive conversations between the staffs, and in a trump and his people have essentially committed to in the first 100 days of the trump administration working with ryan on issues where they see eye to eye. issues like tax reform that you just mentioned. not issues like free trade, not issues like entitlement reform where there are on very divergent paths. all that being said, paul ryan next week is going to unveil the house gop agenda. it is titled, quote/unquote, a better way.
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what's the first issue up next week? poverty. it is their belief that donald trump in his team after the assurances given to their team will take the house gop agenda and either run with it this election or at least go with it when he becomes president. they believe that because donald trump has no concrete domestic policy and they control the floor of the house the house representatives, the most important domestic policy rule in the country that they will in fact have the playbook for the first 100 days and trump could either work with them or not. this is an olive branch. and they think that by just by the nature of what would happen, they'll have to. so i think ryan over the course of getting to know trump perhaps got some assurances from staff saying we can work with this guy. a lot was organized with paul manafort. in the house gop leadership world, but, i can tell you from conversations i've had also this
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was not easy. >> let's get back to the numbers you just mentioned. how much of paul ryan's endorsement of donald trump yesterday do you think think had to do with holding together a potentially group of gop congressman? >> i think that's part of it, but look, the house gop conference, they have not come along to trump and a lot have different problems with him. there are questions about his role in the executive branch and whether he'd be respectful of the legitimative. ryan was trying to get assurances that hey, trump would be a guy we could do business with, and also this idea that hillary clinton as you saw in that op ed is four years a liberal croniness. we can't see again, but let's flash forward, let's say there is a president trump, he's going to need ryan. and ryan will be the only person
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who in theory could cobble together the votes for anything that trump wants to do. so ryan to some degree here i would argue is while certainly looking weak to the outside world eternally is exercising eternal power. okay, if this does happen, we're going to have to go to the issues on and working to work in. there's a big caveat here in the op ed. if you want to speak his mind, ryan will do that. he's done that with the ban on muslims, trump slow to disavow association with the kkk, and i would imagine if it got ugly on immigration, ryan would speak up again. not only to protect the brand of the republican party, if trump goes down 2020, look out. >> how's he going to explain that? richard hauss. >> luke said if it was a question of if and when.
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the i think the third thing was how. coupled the statement with how. and i think that would have probably made for a stronger day because politically you could argue he was boxed in. it would be helpful if you said this is what my agenda is. he would have made an endorsement. >> what i see on the democratic side, candidates like bernie sanders and people like elizabeth warren, i don't know this, but they are requiring something of her. and they are requiring something of her in the moment. what has trump said publicly that would make paul ryan said yep, he's heard me, we're connecting, i can count on him. what has he said to mitch mcconnell that he has said publicly that to make mitch mcconnell feel totally certainly he's going to follow through on his word. what has he done to close to clenching the republican nomination. >> just in tax reform.
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>> judges and tax reform. he's just given a list and he's going to stuck by this list. >> that was the mcconnell piece. and i think you're right. listen, i want to give paul ryan some credit for agonizing publicly over this. i mean, there was a courage piece in what he did. >> what is now gone. >> and he was the oxygen to all the republicans who were trying to articulate some principle, who were trying to respect the will of our voters, with whom we have clearly lost that connection on policy, right? so the republican policy has been are the spread of democr y democracy. our base has not wanted this for a decade. people have heard that. there is a principles objection to trump. he articulated a that. there are trump doing that, and paul ryan was their oxygen for a long time. and i think their despair over the decision yesterdays of something that paul ryan was aware of. and i think he tried to balance it as long as he could, but the crush, the crush of understanding the will of our
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base and understanding -- i mean, there is something in listening to voters as well. so i think paul ryan did a better job than anybody else. of trying to balance the will of our voters. this wasn't one -- >> divide the nomination. he was elected. >> and so i think paul ryan was trying to listen to what our voters was saying which was profoundly different from what anyone thought they would say. and the will of the policy apparatus, that he's been a part of for his entire career. still ahead on "morning joe." front page news the different in how the clinton and sanders campaigns are being covered in california. the plus the nuclear triad, what trint goes after what she calls donald trump's recklessness, we have an in-depth look at the status of the most potent arsenal in the history of the world. but first, bill karens with a check on the forecast and the deadly flooding in texas, bill. >> the infrastructure problems that we're seeing. this was a picture tweeted by
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hillary clinton's national security speech where she's touted her record as secretary of state working with allies and staring down rivals. and mocked donald trump's foreign policy ideas. one after another. >> i believe in strong alliances. clarity in dealing with our rivals. and a rock-solid commitment to the values that have always made
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america great. donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. they're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds, and outright lies. [ applause ] he is not just unprepared, he is temperamentally unfit. this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. [ applause ] he has said that he would order our military to carry out torture. he says he doesn't have to listen to our generals or admirals, our ambassadors and other high officials because he has, quote, a very good brain. [ laughter ]
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he also said i know more about isis than the generals do. believe me. you know what, i don't believe him. [ applause ] i will leave it to the psychiatrists to explain his affection for tyrants -- [ applause ] he praises dictators like vladimir putin and picks fights with our friends, including the british prime minister, the mate your of london, the german chancellor, the president of the mexico, and the pope. [ applause ] he says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the miss universe pageant in russia. and it's no small thing when he suggests that america should withdraw our military support for japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons, and he said
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this about a war between japan and north korea, and i quote, if they do, they do. good luck. enjoy yourself, folks. i wonder if he even realizes he's talking about nuclear war. i remember being in the situation room with president obama, debating the potential bin laden operation. the president's advisors were divided and the risks of failure were daunting. it was a decision only a president could make. and when he did, it was as crisp and courageous a display of leadership as i've ever seen. now imagine donald trump sitting in the situation room making life or death decisionings on behalf of the united states. imagine him deciding whether to send your spouses or children
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into battle. imagine if he not just had his twitter account, but america's entire arsenal. >> okay. so you know i sometimes have been critical of hillary clinton, her speeches being lift of policy ideas, no message, when i watch that speech, i sat up straight and i listened to every word. i thought that was incredible. it totally resinated. no one has been able to do this, everything she said cut. everything she said was true. everything she said completely resinated. it was the most devastating attack on donald trump that we have seen so far. the only one who ever came close was elizabeth warren, but i will tell you this was presidential and this was her basically writing him off and going like this, good-bye. you want that? you want that or do you want this? someone whose been there and knows what it's like or do you
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want crazy. crazy running this country? she literally found a way to really connect with people with a message and an attack, a nasty attack, i might add, and she was awesome. she was awesome. i don't know where that came from, but it motorbike because donald trump, at this point, is such an easy target. and republicans who are tieing themselves in knots trying to figure out how to get behind him really ought to be looking for another candidate. nicole, why did this resinate? >> well, the earth was softened for her by people like mitt romney, marco rubio, jeb bush, and bob gates who had made pieces of this case in their objections, much criticized -- >> but it never resinated. i think when it comes within the party, it looks like sabotage. it makes people nervous, put them at odds with the base of our party. hillary clinton's trying to win an election. she also had roadblock coverage. i actually think that this started it when bob gates said
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to you, the question of temperament because trump came on the next day, and had clearly gotten under his skin -- >> and attacked. >> revered figure in the foreign policy establishment, someone respected across the aisle, criticized his temperament. suggested that he may be unfit. hillary clinton, i think maybe saw or learn ld that that had gotten under his skin and the whole way to run against trump with the 16 republicans never figured out, it's psychological. it's belittle him or mock him and she did both to great affect. now we have to give trump credit, he will come roaring back. >> coming up on "morning joe" we're watching for the latest job numbers. we're going to bring them to you as soon as they're in. and donald trump faces serious backlash on the streets of san jose. halle jackson and her team were in the middle of it. she joins us live in just a minute. and can you explain to me why
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one was things that's irked me greatly is the way that the media has taushed the trump campaign and the sanders campaign as both are raging against the machine. we're going to set that record straight once and for all what it really means. i think both campaigns have tapped into something very, very real, people right, left, and center, believe that the system as it currently stands does not serve their needs. but, what they're being offered up through the tiny funnel of the electoral process is a racist demagogue on the one hand and a, you know, great, sort of, you know, dreamer on the other hand.
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and in the middle is the lesser of three evils, none of those choices are good enough. >> welcome back to "morning joe," and aye been handed the reigns now. we're back with elise jordan, bloomberg politics, macand joann explain, here to tell us, tom raging against the machine. one of the all-time greats. how did you end up talking with tom? >> tom and two of the other guys -- >> harvard grad. >> harvard grad. >> class of '86. a year before this one. the three guys rage against the machine. the public enemy and be real from cypress hill all decided they were going to form a super group this summer. you could very explicitly portfolio, all three acts have a long political tradition of kind of left, leftist radical politics and they all decided they'd seen enough in this campaign season. and so they've joined together, started doing some shows. already some new music and are
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going to bring -- after doing a bunch of shows, they're going to go to the republican convention in july and try to bust the joint up. >> stevie ray vaughn, who can handle it will best? pick one. >> they're all in the top 40. >> top 40. what do you think? >> stevie ray vaughn. >> yeah. >> that show the other night, tom played a scorching solo with his teeth, with his teeth. gymmy hendrix style. that man is a god on the guitar. he's a god. >> teeth. >> dentures, they'd like come out. >> much anticipated job's report just crossed. let's bring in cnbc kaylee touch, what are these numbers telling us? >> they are a diseasal number for the month of may. the u.s. economy created,
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economists had expected 158,000 jobs. we are well below there. there was some sense that the number would come in low for one reason, and that is remember that strike of verizon workers? the largest strike the united states has seen in five years. about 35,000 people who are employed by verizon are out of the work force. even if you added that in, that's 65,000, 70,000 jobs created. still well below estimates. this is going to be surprising to wall street and it's definitely taking the odds off the table that the federal reserve when it meets in two weeks will choose to raise interest rates for the second time since the crisis. they did that in december. that would affect things like home equity line of credit, credit cards and auto loans. but, the sign that we are getting from may is that the u.s. economy is slowing down, the pace of job creation in this recovery is slowing down. and we did see some good news in this report. we did see the unemployment rate tick down to 44.7%.
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we saw wages, average hourly earnings for u.s. workers go up about five cents. that is a glimmer of hope in the job creation. you are seeing the average number of jobs created per month below the 200,000 mark that the federal reserve likes to see to gauge the health of the u.s. economy. a lot of heads are going to be scratched today mike as people are trying to figure out not only what this number says aektd the economy, what it says about the recovery at large and what it says paebt april. we had 160,000 jobs created in april, that was an extremely weak month, that adjustment was taken down. heads are going to be scratching, yontd think the stock market's going to like this. for now, back to you. >> kayla, thank you very much, that was a slap across the economic face. we appreciate it. you know, 158,000 jobs they anticipated, 38,000 jobs is what we got. this is a recovery that never mind everybody phrasing it as
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slow, this is a recovery that very few people were feeling. what's going to happen. what do you think the impact is on this? >> looking at the election and looking what voters are feeling. looking at the grassroots support for trump. it's not even about the jobs per se that have come back, there hasn't been a rise in income since '99. so incomes are around i think around 22% of what they were back in even the early 2000s. so that kind of recovery isn't a real recovery and people are still still hurting. >> look at me, no raise since 1983. still ahead, we're going to go live to california where trump supporters were atracked outside of his rally in san jose last night. this is really ugly and excu excusab excusable. one woman got the hat snatched off his head. the hat was lit on fire. halle jackson was there. and she's going to join us next.
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ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from san jose, california, a young woman who leads the league in frequent flier miles, nbc's halle jackson, halle, you were at the donald trump rally last night. what happened? >> reporter: thank you so much for that. the trump rally last night seen this in other places. trump ended his rally, supporters began to file out. what happened in san jose was interesting because you saw some supporters mix with the couple hundred protesters that had gathered in san jose. now again, every donald trump rally has protesters, what we saw last night was difference, there were violence against trump supporters. i'm sure you saw one woman was hit in the face. she was wearing a trump jersey. you're hearing that video now and seeing it. it was loud. she was hit with egg, people were throwing bottles at trump
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supporters. and it turned into a real scene. as night fell, remember these rallies are happening right around 7:00, it's still light out, at least on the west coast. as night fell you started to see it get rowdier, police began moving the police line back. there were -- we saw at least a couple of arrests. we hear maybe about four total, the san jose mayor now out with a statement this morning, and he says, well it's a sad statement that donald trump has not in his view tried to tampa down some of these issues. he did say that people should be allowed to exercise their right to participate in the political process. so again, what was different about san jose, like for example, albuquerque, last week i think, may 24th, trump supporters were actually diverted to different exits than where the protesters were. there was not a chance for these groups to intermingle. and it seems like that that is where the tension comes from. in this instance you saw that and that is why things got heated. and listen, when you have protests like these, people not involved in the anti-trump movement come out. people who just want to yell at
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the police, people who want to get involved in what becomes frankly a spectacle. >> as always, halle jackson, thank you very much. we appreciate it. josh king, author of "offscript," advance man, extraordinary. the set-up for these things, how does that impact, do you think in your experience, what people take away from the candidate himself? when they see stuff like that or the contrast this week or between donald trump and hillary clinton, donald trump and president obama? >> right, so we're always told that america needs to be able to fight a two-front war at any time. and if you contrast that secretary clinton, she's fighting a two-front war against bernie sanders on the one side, donald trump on the other. and with senator sanders, it's sort of a stalemate headed towards capitulation against trump. the big guns are just beginning to come out. and so, throughout the week, as i've watched these pictures from california, senator sanders used every day to the full advantage,
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large crowds, good weather, a lot of enthusiasm around him. contrast to secretary clinton, she's not there. she's at a parade, she's down for a day. he's in new jersey with bon jovi and cory booker, then finally reemerges on thursday in san diego in a hall against a beautiful presidential backdrop and using a teleprompter, the thing that mica said yesterday, couldn't donald do that once to take advantage of the other tools of politics? now you understand more of where secretary clinton was during the week. working with her speech writers, other people that trump doesn't have on staff. making sure these words are perfectly poised for the first time in weeks, a transcript worthy event, splg that people will download. i read it on time magazine's the full transcript. and so, a real keeper of an event, but a very programmed one. so the question is, donald might criticize her for being a robot.
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but what she did throughout the 35 minute speech was lace it with humor, almost correspondence dinner worthy. getting toe that level. so, she can't play that card every day. but at least he has multiple cards to play. and you got a preview this week of how she will be able to react to different. things that he does in the campaign every day. and so far he just really has one tool, the rally. and that showed its limitations this week. >> yesterday when she gave that speech, it was notable how the crowd was with her. it was almost as if the crowd knew what the lines were, how to react, the lines that were coming, reacting, they were laughing, like that room was built for her, right? just the most basic level. how do you do that? how do you build a crowd like that on a speech you know is going to get a the love coverage. how do you make sure that the crowd is going to be perfectly in sync with the speaker? >> couple things, john, first of all you have the transcript, second, you've got a smaller hall in san diego, built for a
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speech with good acoustics. third is you might take an advanced person like me, position them somewhere two-thirds back in the crowd, transcript in hand, second off applause lines, when she gets to that one pause and probably practiced this in front of a teleprompter, some aid doesn't a quick, clap, clap, everyone else follows aalong. if i watch that speech, you know, it was well-reacted to by the audience. the audience wasn't big, look at a cut away shot of the room, it's a beautiful theater. it's not 8,000 people in moeds like bernie can get, but for television, as long as you don't focus too much on these two glass panels that she's reading her text from, it was a very well-produced event. >> grade her in term was her presentation. >> well yesterday, it was very, very good. it was a teleprompter speech. it was the obama model. it was saying that -- obama would do this in front of very large rallies, as big as the
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rally could be. he used a teleprompter because the natural writer that he is, the natural writer that john fabro is, they said we don't want to let any opportunity go to waste if we can't make good, full thought paragraphs out there. the thing about secretary clinton yesterday, she didn't have to elevate her voice to project into that room. so she on livuated, shrill argument. the second thing she did was have humor. realize that even in a series foreign policy speech, watched by allies around the world, there's enough grist in that sort of midway through, and actually beginning middle and end to say, she is taking down, and i saw your on earlier, takes down trump in san diego speech. through humor. and she's got to do that to put the knife in as mica said earlier as well and looked like she was having fun out there with the remarks she's making. >> and while, while certainly
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trump provides plenty of material, those jokes were so well-executed and the lines were so well executed, and that is the hardest thing for a speech writer to do. i give the clinton team props for what they did with the speech. >> why you have to take a day off the campaign trail now and then to get wherever they had the podium set up and practice the heck out of it. >> and she practiced it, you could tell. >> josh king, thanks very much. coming up, the new age of nukes, vice on hbo breaks down a topic that's taking center stage in the presidential race right now. >> when president obama hosted a nuclear security summit of march of this year, russia refused to attend. at the same time, russia is building new submarines and missiles. and they're warning that they may be force toad use them. >> russians have said look, we'll go to nuclear weapons early. we will escalate to deescalate. once you start up the esk la toir lad we are a nuclear weapon, you don't know where you're going to end up. . y, it's, it's really fine.
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and it's no small thing when he suggests that america should withdraw our military support for japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons, and he said this about a war between japan and north korea. and i quote, if they do, they do, good luck. enjoy yourself, folks. i wonder if he even realizes he's talking about nuclear war.
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>> hillary clinton dropping the hammer on donald trump on the issue of nuclear war yesterday. tonight is the premier of a new vice on hbo episode titled the new age of nukes, and it dives into the modern era of nuclear weaponry, take a look. >> the united states still controls a massive nuclear arsenal. powerful enough to end the world as we know it. it's made up of what's called the nuclear triad. land-based icbms, gravity bombs and cruise missiles drop from long range bombers and missiles launched from submarines that hide in the ocean. now the military wants to spend as much as a trillion dollars to modernize all of it. and that's ignited an intense debate about whether we should be spending so much on when things we'll likely never use. >> joins us now, voice correspondent and former navy seal, let me ask you, just off of that clip and just off of the on the program, are we now on the verge with russia jacking up
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their capabilities? building new submarines, nuclear submarines, are we now on the verge of a 1950s or 1980s escalation? armed escalation, two countries just going for it? >> well actually hit the nail right there on the head. i spent the last several months investigating all three legs of the nuclear triad. i flew a b-52 strategic bomber. i was in a nuclear submarine sleeping next to a weapon of mass destruction and down in one of the missile silos. and what i found are two things. and the one hand, the nuclear arsenal is ageing using things like floppy disks, on the other hand, we're about to spend a trillion dollars to modernize this nuclear arsenal. and it's not clear whether all that money that we're about to spend is going to make us more safe or less safe. partially for what you're implying, it might have the effect of tipping off a neoescalation and creating a neonuclear arms race, ala the
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cold war. >> how much nuclear capability do we need? how much is enough? i mean a couple of shots is going to end it for all of us. i mean how much do we really need? >> that really is the operative question. and what's happening now with this trillion dollars that's being spend, much is happening outside of the per view of the public, so we don't actually know what we're getting. the senate just voted to secretly authorize the funding for the new strategic nuclear bomber, estimates say it's going to be close stoo $80 billion. but we don't actually know. so, the question of how much nuclear power is enough is an interesting one because we're not just building big nuclear weapons that go bang in the logic of cold war deterrence. bigger weapons are actually safer. both the u.s. and russia are modernizing their tkt call nuclear weapons, so the u.s. for example, we've invested in a new gravity bomb called the b-6112, this is a low yield,
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precision-guided weapon. and in the logic of nuclear deterrence, these potential low yield weapons actually have the affect of what one former vice commander ever the joint chiefs of staff called making the unthinkable more thinkable. so it's likely in some experts believe that the knee owe escalation that we've embarked on is having the effect of making us less safe and beginning a new nuclear arms race. >> is the pentagon glad to have the weapons or rather they not be there? >> absolutely. the pentagon has always advocated for each leg of the nuclear triad. there is a logic that says, you need the submarines because they're the survivalable leg, you need the strategic bombers because they're recallable leg and that you need the icbms
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because they can withstand the nuclear attack. the question is, what are the threats we're facing? and does modernizing this nuclear arsenal actually make us, give us greater potential to use them, and according to some experts, we're at a, we're reaching a point that's even more dangeus in terms of the potential possibility of nuclear war than we were at the height of the cold war. >> this is very scary stuff and very important stuff. and new episode of vice on hbo airs tonight at 11:00 eastern. thank you very much for that work. and thanks for being with us today. that does it for us this morning, steve picked up the coverage after a quick break and we're awaiting a live news conference with the latest on the search for missing soldiers from ft. hood. owen! hey kevin. hey, fancy seeing you here. uh, i live right over there actually. you've been to my place. no, i wasn't...oh look, you dropped something. it's your resume with a 20 dollar bill taped to it.
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breaking news this morning out of texas. we're waiting right now for a press conference that's going to be starting there any minute now. this after five soldiers were killed and four remain missing this afternoon. military vehicle was swept away by fast-moving flood waters during a training exercise at ft. hood. three other soldiers were rescued, hospitalized, listed in stable condition. that search going on right now for the missing soldiers. it could be days, it could be weeks before

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