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that's "hardball" for now, talk about hardball, elizabeth warren. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from new york. i am chris hayes. you're watching live footage of the american constitution society conference. just a few minutes ago, senator elizabeth warren tore into donald trump at that event in washington, d.c. as you see, vice president joe biden is about to follow her at the lectern. he's being introduced by ron klain, long-time seese onadviser and associate. both speeches just hours after president obama formally endorsed hillary clinton for
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president, sending a signal to the rest of his party that it's time to unite after a long and contentious primary contest. earlier today, of course, the president met with bernie sanders at the white house at sanders' request. the third time the two have spoken this week. first time they spoke in a phone call on sunday. president obama hat reportedly informed sanders of his plan to endorse clinton in the coming days. and after the meeting today, sanders said he still plans to compete in washington, d.c.'s primary next tuesday. tonight he's holding a rally in the city. but there was no talk today from bernie sanders of flipping superdelegates. sanders spoke instead of bringing his issues to philadelphia rather than contesting the convention. for the first time outlined a path to reconciliation with his democratic rival. >> i spoke briefly to secretary clinton on tuesday night. and i congratulated her on her very strong campaign. i look forward to meeting with her in the near future to see
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how we can work together to defeat donald trump and to create a government which represents all of us and not just the 1%. >> within hours of sanders' meeting at the white house the clinton campaign posted a new video on social media. >> i want to congratulate hillary clinton on making history as the presumptive democratic nominee for president of the united states. look, i know how hard thi job can be. that's why i know hillary will be so good at it. in fact, i don't think there's ever been someone so qualified to hold this office. she's got the courage, the compassion, and the heart to get the job done. and i say that as somebody who had to debate her more than 20 times. even after our own hard-fought campaign, in a testament to her character, she agreed to serve our country as secretary of state. and from the decision we made in
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the situation room to get bin laden, to our pursuit of diplomacy in capitals around the world, i have seen her judgment. i've seen her toughness. i've seen her commitment to our values up close. i've seen her determination to give every american a fair shot at opportunity, no matter how tough the fight was. that's what has always driven her and it still does. so i want those of you who have been with me from the beginning of this incredible journey to be the first to know that i'm with her. there are millions of americans, not just democrats, who have cast their ballots for the very first time. and a lot of that is thanks to senator bernie sanders who has run an incredible campaign. i had a great meeting with him this week and i thanked him for shining a spotlight on issues like economic inequality and the outsized influence of money in our politics and brigham young people into the process. embracing that message is going to help us win in november. but more importantly, it will
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make the democratic party stronger and it will make america stronger. secretary clinton and senator sanders may have been rivals during this primary. but they're both patriots who love this country and they share a vision for the america that we all believe in. an americmer america that's hop. an america that's big-hearted. an america that's strong and fair and gives every child the same chance that we had. those are the values that are going to be tested in this election. and if we all come together in common effort, i'm convinced we won't just win in november, we'll build on the progress that we've made and we will win a brighter future for this country that we love. >> the president's endorsement video for hillary clinton. right now, vice president joe biden making his first public remarks since that endorsement happened in washington, d.c. let's listen in live. >> -- you want to see your popularity soar, acknowledge and announce you're not running for
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president. it really is amazing what it does. if i'd known this, i would have announced it every year for the last 35 years. but thank you. i have had -- presumptuous of me to say that one talent that is as good or exceeds anyone else who's ever had my job, and that is, i've been able to identify and find and pick and convince people brighter than me to join me. and i mean that sincerely. and the two people with the finest minds that i have ever met in my life are ron klain and my son hunter in terms of just steel-trap minds. i've never met a man or a woman any brighter than ron klain. and that's been a great advantage to me from the time he was a kid, and i mean a kid.
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i hired him. he was -- he came down to do his third year from harvard at georgetown. graduating from harvard. because his wife graduated a year ahead of him and came to work for a major law firm down here. and he was recommended to me then. he clerked for the supreme court. and everyone thought i was crazy when i asked him to come be chief counsel for the judiciary committee. i may have been the second-youngest senator ever elected but i think he's the youngest person ever to head up the -- be chief counsel for the judiciary committee. and he has been a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant adviser. he's been a brilliant writer. and he's been a brilliant strat jessica simpson. strategist. so if there is anything in the tenure of my service that is worth noting, it's in anything part because ron klain was by my side. and i mean that sincerely.
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so ron, thank you very much. slitter genera ete eter solicite are you? i can't -- stand up, man. stand up. sorry, the lights are so bright, i wasn't sure. i want to thank you and i mean this sincerely for your dedication. dedicating your entire career, that's not hyperbole, your entire career to the cornerstone of this democracy. and that is the rule of law. there's a reason why so many -- you're the longest-serving and so many presidents have turned to you. you have unimpeachable integrity. you have a brilliant mind. and you've demonstrated just an
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unyielding commitment to the document that you helped interpret or enforce by arguing for the government. and so i want to thank you for the service to the country. but equally as importantly as ron can tell you and others who have worked with me, i judge the genuineness -- i mean this sincerely -- the genuineness of a man or a woman with whom i've served, either in appointed or elective office, by how they conduct themselves when they leave that office. to find out whether it was real or whether it was for some political game. and your continued commitment to the rule of law, your involvement in this organization which is -- i realize that its tenure is not as long as the other outfit. but by the way, we talked about it early on. it's badly needed. you are badly, badly, badly needed.
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and you're filling -- no, it really is important. i know it sounds like i'm just trying to be nice. i'm not. i gin winly me ll ll lly genuin. the problem is no one ever doubts that i mean what i say -- [ laughter ] the problem is i sometimes say all that i mean. and i mean it. you are really very, very much needed. and thank you. thank you all for the role you play. it is true. i was -- i came back from law school 812 years ago, in 1968. and my schedule, part of it had been burned to the ground. the city of wilmington, delaware, is the only city in america since the civil war occupied by the military for a total of nine months. national guard, drawn bayonets
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on every single corner in my city. and i was -- had terrible grades in law school but i was a pretty good communicator. i won the international moot court competition, a few other things. and i talked myself into getting a job with a quote white shoe law firm that was the oldest law firm in the state of delaware. and after a case in federal court which was a fine firm where we were defending a major oil company, and we won, and i had written as before i got admitted to the bar -- those days you took the bar in september, it's still that way in delaware. you take it in september, you don't get your results until december. it's given once a year. but i was sitting in the second chair with a senior partner. i wrote a brief for a directed verdict in this case. and we won. and it was reason to celebrate. but i looked over at the
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defendant and i thought, oh, god. we upheld the law but this poor kid is in real bad shape. cleaning out a containment vessel in an oil company. the senior partner, who was a good man, dupont, invited me to go to lunch at the wilmington club -- >> joe biden, vice president of the united states, at the american constitution society in washington, d.c. he's following a rip-roaring speech by elizabeth warren targeting donald trump, the republican party, and republican obstruction. i've gotten a chance to see some of his prepared remarks. he will be doing some of the same kind of work in just a bit, although in classic vice presidential joe biden fashion he's not yet worked his way around to those prepared remarks so we're going to monitor that as he speaks and bring you that when he sort of starts getting going. right now i'm joined by charlie pierce, writer at large for esquire, nationally syndicated columnist connie schultz, winner of the pulitzer prize, and whose
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husband, senator sherrod brown, we're told, is is a potential democratic vp pick. the big news of the day, connie, the president coming out after bernie sanders came to washington, d.c. and met with him, releasing a video endorsing hillary clinton. were you at all surprised by the timing? >> a little bit. i thought he might wait until after the washington primary. but i was delighted by the timing, quite frankly. it's interesting that we hear that elizabeth warren is also going to be doing it today. i think we're seeing that thing that democrats occasionally can do well, which is if not get on the same page, at least be reading from the same book. and i'm encouraged by this. you can hear the sigh of relief from an awful lot of democrats around the country right now. >> you had a sigh of relief. i follow you on social media, there had been this politico item written about bernie sanders which had struck me as not the sanders at least that i know, that i've been in sort of fairly regular communication
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with. and at one part saying he was angry and bitter at sherrod brown who i would describe the two men, i think you would too, as friends, obviously colleagues, they share much of the same politics. >> yes. >> senator sanders called senator brown, is that correct? >> correct. he did it last night. and we were both really happy that he did. that was a pretty hard story to read. it didn't sound like the bernie we know. and sherrod and bernie are friends. we're friends too. i took a leave of absence from my job to campaign for sherrod and bernie was running for senate at the same time which is how i first got to know him. i've joked about bernie, he cannot see me in any room without barreling across the room with his arms wide open, he gives me the biggest hug. this did not sound like the bernie new. but before bernie called i said, there's no easier source to be found than an embittered campaign staffer who's guaranteed anonymity. and we've seen this time and
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time again over the years with campaigns. i think that's what happened. >> all right. the vice president is now sort of starting to kick in his remarks. connie and charlie, if you'll stick with us, we'll go take his remarks right now. listen in. >> -- one imperative of an independent judiciary that the american people can have faith in. it matters. it matters. that the people have faith in the impartiality of the court. alexander hamilton wrote in "federalist '78," he said "the complete independence of courts of justice is a peculiarly -- is peculiarly essential for a limited constitution." to guarantee that independence, and i know i'm preaching to the choir, to protect against political pressure, the framers included the emolluments clause, the compensation clause which restricts the ability of either
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branch of government to reduce a judge's compensation while they're in office, life tenure. removal only by impeachment and a super majority impeachment in the united states senate. pretty, pretty bold and provocative at the time statements of, we expect this branch of government to be co-equal, independent, and it's essential that its believability, its confidence of the people. it's like mussolini's comment. how many regiments does the pope have? well, what does the court have? what does it have? it has its reputation that it is, in fact, it is, in fact, impartial. it is in fact prepared to rule on the merits.
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that it is not subject to intimidation. that's a precious, precious, precious commodity. that in our separation of powers, the court cannot afford to have undermined. all these protections were designed to do two things. reinforce in the minds of the public the absolute impartiality of the federal judiciary, the supreme court in particular. and protect the federal judiciary from being able to be influenced by either of the political branches. the framers gave concrete substance to the idea that ours is, as chief justice marshall put it, a government of laws and not of men. it sounds almost like a high
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school civics class. but it's real. it's consequential. it really matters. look at the length even a divided court has gone to over our history. on extremely divisive subjects. to make sure, even though they had enough votes, to get the preponderance beyond a single vote so that they would say to the country, this is the law of the land. you know, the fact is that the -- one of the founding fathers in my view did not think to quote a perceptive commentator who wrote just a couple of days ago. the federal court, litigation of the federal courts, is not deal-making by another means.
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surely the framers of our constitution did not envision a presidential candidate of one of the major political parties personally attacking a sitting federal judge. as the nominee or the presumptive nominee of a major party. attacking a federal judge because that judge ruled against the candidate in his private capacity as a citizen in a civil case. for a candidate to call a judge a hater, a total disgrace, to quote him. because he allowed people claiming to have been victimized by the candidate in his capacity as a private businessman to proceed. and because the judge dares to unseal some documents, which it is in his power to do, detailing
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their victimization -- i don't think the framers envisioned a presidential candidate accusing a judge of being incapable of reaching a fair decision because of his ethnic descent. because he was hispanic, or anything else. because he was from tennessee or because he was from delaware, because he was or she was anything identifiable as distinct from who the candidate was. becau because, he says, the judge ruled against him in light of his anti-mexican proposals. mr. trump isn't unique in
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attempting to intimidate the federal judiciary in a case. other private citizens have tried to pressure the judiciary from time to time. but not private citizens who are placed in close range of the white house by one of our great political parties. it's one thing for a private citizen to attempt to throw his economic or political weight around as an unelected official. to try to influence, help him demolish his adversary, a phrase often used by this particular fellow, in a judicial proceeding. it's quite another thing for the presumptive candidate of a major party to do the same thing. you may say, joe -- folks, i have not been out responding to, in my capacity as vice
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president, to anything that mr. trump has said. but it's my view that a presidential candidate who publicly attacks a sitting federal judge who ruled in a way that goes against his economic interests cannot be trusted to respect the independence of the judiciary as a president. again, you may view this as -- [ applause ] i'm sure there are those who are saying, and with good reason, well, i think that's a particularly harsh judgment. but there's no real connection here. let's look at what that presumptive nominee said. his own words. after calling the judge presiding over a fraud suit against him a total disgrace, mr. trump said, and i quote, these are his exact words, "but
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we will come back in november. wouldn't that be wild, if i'm president and i come back and do a civil case?" he went on to say, and i'm quoting, "wouldn't it be wild, as president, to come back in november to do a civil case?" how can that be interpreted in any other way than as a direct thre threat? these are words of someone who sees our federal judiciary not as an independent branch of government but as a tool for him to manipulate so he can do what he calls, deal with the laws of our country. these are words, in my view, of one who would defy the courts if they ruled against him as president.
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not just in a business case. but a case challenging government abuse of power. raising the specter of "coming back in november," "doing a civil case" from the oval office, is not so veiled a threat. it's a direct threat. and to use the office of the presidency, were he to acquire it, to intimidate and undermine an independent judiciary would be blatantly unconstitutional abuse of power. mr. trump, which is possible, doesn't understand -- i mean, he's a bright guy, i'm not saying that. not pretending he's -- but he either doesn't understand because this is a realm in which he's never dealt before, or he doesn't care.
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that it would border on an impeachable offense for a president actually to use the great powers of the office to attempt to undermine a federal judge by placing pressure on that judge in any case. especially one the president has, in this case, of personal financial stake. this kind of conduct is pernicious and unprecedented. and the legal profession should not remain silent. should not put up with it. as one prominent conservative legal commentator put it this way, this behavior in a president smacks of authoritarianism and tyranny. i agree. i agree with that comment cater. commentator. you all know this as well or
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better than i do. our founders created an independent judiciary because, as hamilton wrote? "federal '78" quoting montesque, there is no liberty if the power of the judiciary is not separated from the executive and legislative powers. i find donald trump's conduct in this regard rep rehensiblprehen. threats of intimidation and undercutting the legitimacy of a judge by suggesting that because of his heritage he's incapable of being fair. in addition to this, it is racist. in addition. in addition to this. but it's not the racism that frightens me. we've dealt with racists before. it's the potential impact on the
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court. and i might add, a friendly note to my republican friends, many of them long-time colleagues in the the senate. they sail trump's unacceptable and wrong sentiment to the judiciary, yet refuse to confirm a judge of unquestionable credentials for the supreme court, so that mr. trump can nominate, fill that vacancy. if he were to win. the failure of my friends -- and by the way, it's not a joke. i can see some of the white house senior personnel here. it even drives them crazy i have so many republican friends. you think i'm joking. if you notice, as they'll tell you, any time we have a crisis, "send joe." it's like that old commercial for life cereal.
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"mikey will eat it." "send joe." it's because with all the dysfunction i still genuinely respect the senate reserve the greatest of my honor of life is to have served in the united states senate as long as i have. and the vast majority of my republican colleagues know better. this is an age of intimidation by gigantic contribution capability from certain areas and because of the consequence of gerrymandering. but the bulk -- the reason i don't lose faith is the bulk know better. the bulk know better. the senate republicans know -- >> that is vice president biden at the american constitution society. he just delivered i think, it's fair to say, the strongest words directed towards donald trump that has come from this
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administration, by far, referring to his comments about the judge overseeing one of the fraud civil suits against him as reprehensible and racist, talking about authoritarian impulses, in extremely sharp and sobering language describing the threat it poses to foundational institutions in the country, separation of the powers of democracy. connie shchultz, charlie, elizabeth warren's going to be on "rachel" later tonight where she is expected in rachel's program to endorse hillary clinton. elizabeth warren went first, a very rousing speech on some of the same things. that was an incredibly sobering, serious accounting of just how profoundly disturbing trump's comments on the judges have been. >> yeah, and i think that one thing we have to point out is that all donald trump -- donald trump is not -- among
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republicans of the modern era, donald trump is not an aberration. he's merely an exaggeration. the republicans have attacked members of the federal judiciary whenever the members of the federal judiciary haven't done -- have done something they don't like. there's always talk about defunding the federal courts because of decision "x." i think you saw a lot of this during the extended fiasco around the death of terri schiavo. joan cornyn made what could literally -- arguably be defined as a physical threat. tom delay threatened to defund the whole federal court system at that time. so basically, again, with donald trump, this is personalized. it has the overlay of this incredible fraud scheme that's being examined by the court. but it's really just an exaggeration of what people have been saying for 25, 30 years. >> you know, connie, biden quoted something i have to say -- i sit at this desk every
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day, five nights a week, and we cover this stuff. biden quoted something that trump said about the judge that i had missed. he said, talking about this civil case, "but we will come back in november. wouldn't that be wild if i am president and come dak and do a civil case?" biden making the point, there is no way to interpret that other than essentially a naked threat on the independence of the federal judiciary. >> well, that's right. i'll tell you, first of all, i'm glad he used the word racism when he was talking about trump, in addition to the assault on the judiciary. i agree with you, a lot of people i suspect had not heard that from trump until vice president biden just said it. and what donald trump is realizing today is he's about to endure the onslaught of this white house coming after him. the last thing donald trump thinks he should have to do is compete for a woman -- with a woman for a job. so we have already been able to see a little bit of the landscape of what that's going to look like. now we're about to see what's
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going to happen with the white house finally bringing its force, it influence, and its current popularity with the president to help get hillary clinton elected. i just find this a fascinating day, quite frankly. it's more than any of us had expected, i think, toappen in one day. >> yeah, it seems like all of a sudden, from zero to 60. when we woke up this morning, it was bernie sanders going to washington, meeting with the president. before you know it, it's the president's released a statement, elizabeth warren is out tearing into trump, the vice president comes out and gives the strongest statement from this administration as of yet. and now, right now, is sort of tearing in as elizabeth warren has, into the fact that he said this towards the end of the portion we were playing you. this republican party and republican senate, not donald trump, the republican party and republican senate, who condemn his remarks, say they're deplorable, are holding a supreme court seat open for him to fill. >> right. how scary is that?
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we can't say that enough, charles. i'm wondering if you agree, we cannot say enough times that this seat they're holding open on the court waiting for donald trump to become president. >> i think the whole "i will support him but not endorse him" is a farce and it's going to become more and more ridiculous as the months go along. what i was struck with from the events of today, and chris, i think we've talked about this before. the democrats have lined up a murderer's row of surrogates. i mean, when bill clinton is number four on the depth chart? as he is now. you are talking about, you know -- you're talking about nelson's fleet at trafalgar when it comes to other people who can speak for your campaign and bernie sanders hasn't come around to doing it yet. >> that is a great point. i think it's what we sort of saw unleashed today this kind of murderer's row and all fire aimed in the same direction. charlie pierce son, connie schultz, thank you for rolling
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with us through that i appreciate it. still ahead, we'll bring you more on president obama's endorsement of hillary clinton with senator chris murphy of connecticut. and still ahead, senator elizabeth warren expected to make her endorsement of hillary clinton live on this network tonight as speculation ramps up she could be a vp pick and as she takes donald trump to the woodshed in a speech that just ended. that story and some of those remarks are just two minutes away. every time i drive. ...want my number? and cash back for driving safe. and the power to automatically find your car... i see you car! and i got the power to know who's coming mns getting more from you car insurance with the all-powerful drivewise app. it's good to be in, good hands. this clean was like - pow. everything well? it felt like i had just gone to the dentist. my teeth are glowing. they are so white. 6x cleaning*, 6x whiteningá
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defeat him in november. >> what kind of a man is donald trump? donald trump says judge curiel should be ashamed of himself. no, donald, you should be ashamed of yourself. you shame yourself and you shame this great country. we are the nation of john adams, a lawyer who defended the british soldiers after the boston massacre and then went on to serve as president of the united states. that is who we are. and we will not allow a small, insecure, thin-skinned, wannabe tyrant, or his allies in the senate, to destroy the rule of law in the united states of america. we will not. we are ready for this fight. because it is time to fight again. >> tonight in a live, exclusive interview right after this show,
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at 9:00 p.m., on "the rachel maddow show," senator warren is expected to endorse hillary clinton for president. stay tuned for that. senator warren has been the subject of a great deal of speculation over whether she might be a running mate for clinton. "the huffing post" reports harry reid believes warren should be the choice. former governor rendell of pennsylvania said warren should not be vp choice because she lacks the foreign policy experience to be commander in chief. also clinton issuing the statement, warren is an incredible public servant, eminently qualified for any role. what's next and best, editor of "the nation" magazine which has endorsed bernie sanders for president. she hadn't endorsed clinton, barack obama and elizabeth warren the neutral ar bitters here. >> senator warren prizes being an independent voice for all people. she as fighter against bullies and has been for many years.
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not just donald trump. she's taken on the big banks, polluters. she's the one in 2012 at the democratic convention quoting the term "rigged system" and talked about how she was a fighter against that rigged system. definedance of the consumer protection board which has delivered $17 billion back to 10 million americans. she is well poised to unify the different wings of the democratic party. on the other hand, donald trump's doing a heck of a job doing that right now. but her issues, she's in sync with bernie sanders on the issues. she's for repealing -- restoring minimum wage, reining in and breaking up big banks, all those things. she would be an extraordinary vice president. it is her judgment and her judgment is stellar. it is hers to decide. on the other hand, her strength comes from being uncompromising, from challenging the administration as she has on international trade and wall street accountability, and she
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is unmortgaged, unbought, and i think she's also an agitator and an outsider in the best sense of those terms and it's tough to be so in the white house. >> as vice president. i think that's one of the things. you would give up, and she has been fiercely independent, it would be a sort of remarkable thing to go from never having nominated a woman to president, for having two women on the ticket, and that would be -- she's also obviously shown herself to have an extraordinary amount of political talent. >> i'd like to say we've had experience with same-gender tickets. >> that's right. >> on the other hand, will hillary clinton want to share the spotlight? i mean, we have, you've been around. >> that's right. >> will hillary clinton want to share the spotlight? this is a historic moment. i liked hillary clinton invoking the history of standing on the shoulders of others who fought for women's rights and freedoms. but i think elizabeth warren has an important role to play in the senate. if the senate returns as democratic, she will have a pulpit there, she can organize a caucus of progressive senators.
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bernie sanders will be at budget, sherrod brown will be at banking. elizabeth warren, when she speaks, people listen. i don't know in the history of vice presidents how independent, strong -- >> good point. if she were on the ticket it would seem -- tpp, for instance, i keep wondering what's going to . there's going to be a vote, a lot of people predict a lame duck session in which hillary clinton, if she has been elected at that point, says -- >> but that's where the social movements, that's where senator warren holds the line, accountability. >> would be key, yeah. >> she's really challenged the white house. >> right. the other thing is -- >> we need a sheriff, not just a sheriff of wall street, we need a sheriff of the white house moving forward. that is elizabeth warren. she's been a cop on the beat. >> there's something to say about being able to -- you can get away with a lot more if you're just some senator. i mean -- some senator. if you're not actually representing a campaign. elizabeth warren can say things that might be harder as a vice president. >> absolutely, charles pierce talked about the murderer's row of surrogates, she's been
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but i was in other states that traditionally no republican would waste their time in. they wouldn't go to dinner there, they wouldn't spend 10 cents on an ad because there's no way they could win. i think i can win various states people aren't even thinking about. >> donald trump loved to boast about expanding the electoral map. at a private meeting with donors and republican officials he vowed to compete in new jersey, california, pennsylvania, and maryland, according to a source in the room. states that haven't voted for a republican presidential candidate since 1988. today, maryland. governor larry hogan refused to say whether he thinks trump is
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fit to serve as president. trump is also promising to make a play for deep blue new york which president obama won by nearly 30 points in 2012. he's even hired a pollster to help win in new york despite denigrating pollsters in the past. >> i don't have pollsters. i don't want to waste money on pollsters. because i don't want to be unreal. i want to be me. i have to be me. we have enough of that in washington with pollsters telling everybody what to say. >> trump's promise to contest deep blue states comes as he faces new criticism from former rival john kasich, governor of the crucial swing state of ohio. >> will you support donald trump for president? >> hard to say. if you look at twitter, they have this thing called trending. it's trending poorly. yeah. i mean, look. i have a completely different message. mr. trump called me and he said, what are you going to do to support me? i said, we're like two companies. we have a different vision, a
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different value system, a different objective so it's pretty hard to put that together. but right now, the divisiveness, the division, the name-calling, it doesn't go down well with me. >> trump meanwhile is making his feelings about kasich clear, retweeting john kasich, the voters have spoken, we want real donald trump, you agree to support the nominee, get on board or leave, from a supporter. joining me, a.j. delgado, trump supporter. it feels like donald trump had an excellent week 0 so around when sort of -- clinch the nomination, we saw him bump up in the polls considerably. it feels like it's been a pretty bad week for him so far. >> well, bad week has been driven by the media on this false narrative of this racism angle that the media's pushing in regards to judge curiel. it's not anything trump said or did that caused this bad week, it's really something that his opponents both in the media and in political industry are driving. he did nothing wrong. we're going to see this over and
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over again. >> wait, so -- let's you and i agree to disagree on whether he did something wrong because i don't think either of us will persuade each other on that point. >> we disagree. >> i think he did something wrong, you don't. but seemed to me part what was made the curiel stuff wasn't so much the media, although that was part of it, the media covered it lot, but people like paul ryan saying, it's textbook racism. when a member of your own party says, textbook racist, or lindsay graham says, i can't support him, mark kirk says i'm unendoesing you, that was part of the grist for the media mill saying even fellow republicans say this is out of bounds. >> the media and the democrats, and i apeat myself there, are what drive that. when you have that narrative for several days and someone asks paul ryan what his thoughts are, of course he's going to feel the pressure to say, by the way, i completely disagree with it and those comments are textbook racism and you have to do your virtue signalling and i don't
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agree with it. because for days the media has said donald trump is a racist, wrongly so, for the comments he made. i think that's why you're seeing some of this throwing mr. trump under the bus slightly by paul ryan or john kasich in regards to the remarks, simply because there is this pressure that unless you say his remarks were terrible, we're going to grill you as well. also you're seeing this pushback. let's look at who it's coming from. paul ryan. it's not much of a secret that he was perhaps hoping to be the white knight that obtained the nomination -- >> do you still think he holds out that hope? >> no, not at all. >> you think it's no more? >> i think he has sour feeling towards trump, of course he does, same thing with john kasich, same thing with jeb bush. these are people who spent a lot of time and thought into thinking that they might be the ones who have the nomination, now trump does and we expect him to be 100% behind him. human beings don't work that way. i understand, we'll all unify, but they need a little bit of time. >> i thought larry hogan was
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interesting. i saw the comments from trump saying he was going to target maryland, one of the states he's going to target. this republican governor, i think right now the most popular governor in the country, 65%, 70% approval ratings in a deep blue state, got to think he has the fingers on the pulse of his voters having gotten elected and he won't say if he's going to support trump for president. is he misreading the politics of his own state? >> of course he is. everybody has underestimated donald trump and misread the voters. this is why people gave him a slim nomination. who won it in the end? donald trump. i hope this governor will understand his voters probably do want to see him endorse trump and unify with us and make that endorsement and be in line with what his voters wish for. >> we'll see if that happens. a.j. delgado, thanks as always for being here, appreciate it. my interview with chris murphy on democratic unity and how they'll take on trump. that's next.
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i've seen her determination to give every american a fair shot at opportunity, no matter how tough the fight was. that's what has always driven her and it still does. so i want those of you who have been with me from the beginning of this incredible journey to be the first to know that i'm with her. >> president obama in a video released this afternoon formally endorsing hillary clinton for president, true to form trump reacted to the president's endorsement on twitter, "obama just endorsed crooked hillary, he wants four more years of obama but nobody else does." the response from the clinton campaign five minutes later, delete your account.
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already it appears president obama's endorsement has opened the flood gates for other democrats to rally behind clinton. next elizabeth warren ready to endorse clinton in an interview with rachel maddow. >> it was a pretty amazing piece. and i think it's exactly what we needed right now. i was very pleased to hear the comments from senator sanders which i think mark a pretty important shift in his campaign. i think it's important to remember what these primaries really are about. how boring would it have been if hillary clinton was our only candidate? there's no contest. how much poorer we would have been if the progressive movement in this country didn't have a real reason to get out of bed and help contest this primary, which in the end has made our party stronger. i think it's going to be incredibly powerful to see president obama and hillary clinton campaigning together. i expect it's going to be just as powerful, maybe several weeks
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later or a week later, to see bernie sanders and hillary clinton campaigning together. and the power of those three out there on the stump from here until november, i think really is a force that donald trump and his acolytes cannot resist. i'm excited about it. >> senator sanders was in d.c. today, of course he was at the white house where he met with the president. obviously he's your colleague, he's caucused with the democrats. but i've reported on him when i was a washington editor of "the nation" there, been on capitol hill with him. there's always something -- he was a goadfly, caucus of one in his own way, even though he had good relationships with progressives ask democrats, even in leadership. do you see a change in him returning to the senate now under these conditions? >> i don't think bernie changes. but his influence changes. there's just no doubt that he is a progressive powerhouse returning to the senate in a way that is different than what he
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did before. i will say that he was impactful on our caucus. i've only been here for three years. but bernie spoke up consistently in caucus on behalf of all of the causes that he's out there on the stump talking about, pushing our caucus to get stronger against wall street, pushing our caucus to argue for the expansion of social security, not just the reform of it. so bernie has been i think a real influential voice inside the caucus. and now he's going to bring with him this movement which i think is going to end up helping all of us, helping more democrats get elected to the senate, and hopefully helping us stay in power once we reclaim the body. >> what is your sense of how your colleagues across the aisle are gauging this? you have of course mark kirk unendorsing donald trump. you have lots of folks decrying his remarks on judge curiel but still endorsing him. they all seem caught in a no-win situation. what is your read on what that
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caucus across the aisle is like right now in the senate? >> well, i think that they are in a moment of crisis right now. and today we additionally heard that one of my colleagues, susan collins from maine, republican, suggests that she may actually support hillary clinton. which would be absolutely exceptional. a mainstream, high-profile republican senator suggesting that she might support the democrat in the general election. what ultimately is going to happen here is that without the support of mainstream republicans or with the less than enthusiastic support from others, there is just going to be an effect on the electorate with bernie sanders, barack obama, elizabeth warren, hillary clinton out there campaigning, our electorate, our base, will be energized. the republican base is going to be unenjized or at the least totally confused about what to do. i think that has big impacts for the general election. >> quickly, finally, what is
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this election about? when i say that, there's a challenge it seems to me in making this election about something other than the vortex of personality traits that is donald trump. >> right. this election is about the fundamental weakness of the middle class. and these broad economic shifts towards globalization, towards automation, that have created stagnant wages. it's about which president is actually going to deliver the tool kit for the middle class so that their wages grow. there is nothing in donald trump's agenda that helps the middle class. it is all about trying to serve his friends, the wealthy and the landed. what hillary clinton and bernie sanders now have to do is convince that very agitated, very anxious middle class that their position on family and medical leave, their position on the minimum wage, their position on college affordability, scratches that anxious middle class exactly where they itch. that's what their message has to be about. >> senator chris murphy, always
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a pleasure, thank you. that is "all in" for this evening. rachel maddow has made to it washington, d.c. for an exclusive interview with senator elizabeth warren who's going to make an announcement of some sort. >> i did make it here by the seat of my pants. >> literally. >> yeah, it was a little tight. at one point i was trying to think if we could do the interview with senator warren by facetime from seat 13c. >> amazing, you probably could have. >> would you be willing to talk with me in the hope that i might make some news here with senator elizabeth warren? >> happily. >> would you be willing to come back? >> i will not go anywhere. >> thank you very much. we have senator elizabeth warren here tonight which is why i'm here in washington, d.c. it's great to have you with us tonight. when john mccain wrapped up the republican presidential nomination in 2008, the sitting presidenathat time, george w. bush, he had an approval

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