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string this is. but they have $1.3 million on hand to be running a campaign as of june 1st. as the nominee. i don't -- maybe they're going to do it by magic. i don't know. by midnight tonight, bernie sanders also has the same deadline to release his fund raising and cash on hand. but these numbers from the trump campaign are absolutely devastating. now it's time for "the last word." you know when donald trump first started making noises about running for president, the very first thing i had to say is he cannot afford it. this talk of i can pay for my own campaign. it was always clear when people took closer looks that the pyramid was much smaller than people thought and no way he could afford a presidential campaign. that's why i think we're seeing the numbers. >> these numbers are stunning.
the fact he only funded himself $45,000 the entire last month and to only have a million cash on hand in june when you're the nominee, my eyes deceive me. >> well, more to come. thank you, rachel. it was a day of big wins for democrats. the implosion of the trump campaign was continued good news with trump finally firing the campaign manager that no one else would have hired and apparently involved an intervention by donald trump's children to do the right thing. and today votes in the senate that the democrats lost. but the legislative history of the senate is filled with very big wins, important wins that took many, many years with many lost votes on those long roads to those big wins. the senator who forced the senate to vote today, chris
murphy, will join us. >> well, here we go again. >> senate republicans should be embarrassed, but of course they're not. >> the democratic leadership is trying to turn this tragedy into another debate about guns. >> they're embarrassed because the nra is happy. >> these bad guys, oh, gosh they passed a law. >> the power of the gun lobby over certain members of the senate seems boundless. >> what we're doing with this debateen the hill, it's like they're trying to -- [ inaudible ]. >> we may have lost today but we will not give up. >> people deserve to be safe at work, safe at school, at a movie theater and yes, at a night club. >> what am i going to tell 49
grieving families? what am i going to tell the community of orlando? sadly what i'm going to have to tell them is the nra won again. >> announcer: this is the last word on campaign 2016. >> orlando rehearsed. think about that. orlando rehearsed. that's why so many lives were saved. orlando rehearsed it. and they did it just in time. just a few months ago, the orlando regional medical center did what hospitals are doing all over the country, they rehearsed what to do when a mass murderer sends dozens of shooting victims to an emergency room. they call an active shooter scenario just three months ago. that's the country we live in. we rehearse active shooter
scenarios, not as a just in case. we don't rehearse them just in case they happen. we rehearse active shooter scenarios because we know they are going to happen and they're going to happen again and again. we know they're going to happen because government is doing nothing to stop them. nothing to even slightly reduce the likelihood of the next active shooter scenario, nothing to make it slightly more difficult for the next crazy person, the next terrorist to buy a weapon of mass destruction over the counter in minutes. the only thing we don't know is who's next. the only thing we don't know is which emergency room is going to have to swing into action for how many wounded and so we rehearse. rehearsal. for an active shooter scenario is the newest necessary element
in continuing medical education in a country where weapons for mass murder are out of control and that's not the country that chris murphy wants to live in, the country that rehearses what to do when the next mass murderer opens fire. a senator took a stand because he simply couldn't take it anymore. this is what heroism looks like in america. >> it's over, it's over. cleveland is a city of champions once again. >> the emotions for lebron james, who delivers on his promise to come home and bring a championship. >> that's what i thought heroism looked like when i was a kid. real heroism comes in many forms. doctors, nurses, police officers, friends and strangers, heroically saving people's
lives. if you look at heroism in washington, you have to be very, very patient, you have to be willing to wait for years and years and more years. an act is not heroic if anyone can do it. here's how heroic in senate terms chris murphy's filibuster for gun control was. no one had ever done it, not for gun control. and when he started it, no one thought anything would come of it, after almost 15 hour s standing on the floor, he wraon concession that there would be votes today. here's what he said just before the votes today. >> i know what that community is going through. and i believe that for all the scarring, psychological harm that comes with losing a loved one or a neighbor, more harm is piled on when you find out that the people you elected to run
your country just don't care. i urge the adoption of the murphy and the feinstein amendment and i thanchg ythank you for your time. >> he didn't win the roll call votes. here's what bill nelson said. >> what am i going to tell 49 grieving families? what am i going to tell the families of those that are still in the hospital fighting for their lives? what am i going to tell the community of orlando that is trying to come together in the healing? sadly, what i'm going to have to tell them is the nra won again. >> what senator murphy can also tell those people is that he won't give up. senator nelson can tell those people that chris murphy and he won't give up. he can tell those people that government subsidized health
insurance was one of the big pieces of unfinished business in delner roosevelt's white house. 15 years and threes presidents, medicare and medicaid are passed. harry truman was there and then became the first official enrollee in medicare. president nixon then proposed a health insurance bill that would extend coverage to people under 65. it was defeated in congress by liberals who believed they could pass a better bill and then never did. bill and hillary clinton took up the cause of health insurance reform in 1994 but were unable to get their bill to a vote on the house floor or the senate floor and then on march 23rd 2010, president obama signed the kind of health care reform legislation that some people in washington had been pushing since the roosevelt presidency,
77 years before. it took 77 years and for decades the senators who pushed health care reform were considered by many in washington to be dreamers. most years they couldn't even get a committee hearing on their bills. and decades would go by without them even getting a vote in a committee because they never ga gave up. their day came and so there was a bill signing that white house. if the history of legislation in congress teaches us anything, we know there will be a bill signing on some of chris murphy's proposal on gun legislation. we just don't know when. this year, next year, 10 years from now, 20 years from now. 20 years from now chris murphy will be 62 years old, which is still young for a senator. but if he's still in the senate, he will surely be a master of the senate by then and surely get something done on gun
control because he simply will not give up. >> we're not giving up. the american people aren't giving up. i will tell you this. they are simply evidence of the fact that republicans know they are on the wrong side of the electorate. democracy doesn't allow for this place to be this far out of step with 90% of americans. >> shortly after the votes today, ohio's republican senator, rob portman said this. >> i rise to simply commend the cast for an outstanding performance and really a gutsy performance throughout the entire series. >> rob portman was on the winning side of the votes today and so hospitals in his state of ohio will continue to rehearse. they will continue to rehearse the active shooter scenario. ohio hospitals will rehearse for the day their emergency rooms
get filled up with a mass murderer using an assault weapon that today their senator made sure would remain easily ava availab available. joining us now, chris murphy, the junior democratic senator from connecticut. thank you for joining us tonight. i have a suggestion to me via twitter from frances haywood. and i want to put it up on the screen. frances suggested gun registration reform. new name. they'll never notice. why don't we start there. >> well, you know, we need start somewhere. i mean, what was so offensive to me and so many others at the beginning of the isweek is coming off the worst mass shooting in the history of this country, the senate was going to effectively act as if it didn't happen. totally completely ignore it and
go on and debate the commerce department funding bill and there's a lot of heavy hearts around here. we're going to try to figure out new ways to push this forward but there are also a lot of people who feel like we made a difference, who feel like in standing up over the course of wednesday and wednesday night that there were millions of people who paid attention who may not have. we scrambled the republicans to try to bring another bill to the floor later this week that gets them well from their negative votes tonight and i think that we have shown a light on the possibility of what political action can bring. we didn't get votes in our favor but we did get republicans on record once again standing against 90% of their constituents and there will be a price to pay eventually at the electorate. but we did some good things amidst a lot of the folks
disappointed by the outcome tonight. >> and it looks like you may be moving towards a vote that might succeed sooner than any of us may be anticipated. i want to listen to mitch mcconnell. >> no one wants terrorists to be able to buy guns or explosives. no one. instead of using this as an opportunity to push a partisan agenda or craft the next 30-second campaign add, senator grassley are pursuing real solutions that can help americans safer from the threat of terrorism. they're approaching this in a serious and constitutional way. serious solutions. that's what the american people now demand more than ever. >> senator, that sounds like a leader who knows they have to appear, at minimum, appear to be taking this seriously and
working on it and that's a new turn of events in the senate. >> and underneath those statements is work being done as we speak by susan collins and a handful of other republicans and democrats to try to find a bill that could come to the floor that could get 60 votes. but let's call out senator mcconnell for a second here. they've had six months since san bernardino. since this failed in december to work out a compromise. senator cornyn's measure isn't common ground. it's effectively written by the gun lobby to give cover for the people who are actually keeping people off the watch list. it involves trying to actively seek common ground. and maybe if they'd spent a little bit of time getting
republicans and democratic together around this common purpose, we wouldn't be in this position right now. but it will take more than him going to the floor and make a statement. >> donald trump sounded at first like the first republicans say we have to do something. he said that in a tweet. he's apparently abandoned doing anything about this. let's listen to him tonight with bill o'reilly. >> would you put any limits on what you can and can't buy? >> on the guns, i wouldn't because it's a question of protection and once you start, where do you end? >> so, his brief moment out of the nra's pockets seemed uncomfortable and he's rushed back inside there. >> he actually said he was going to negotiate the bill with the nra. advertising to everybody that he
was going to negotiate national security policy with the gun lobby rather than people who know what they're talking about and over the weekend he took a position that was more extreme than the nra itself by sugge suggesting that everybody in the night clubs is both drinking and arm would ar-15s. it's gotten worse day by day and when you're so far to the right on this issue that you've out flanked the national rifle association, then you're in a pretty bad spot. >> senator, what you're trying to do is such a heavy lift legislatively. but there's another piece i want to ask about. and that is what does it feel like to do this in a news environment where everybody out there says it's impossible. commentators, including commentators that want it to happen. the first thing they'll say is it's completely impossible. that's the spirit of the news
media that follows this. >> i think you hit the nail on the head when you talk about health care reform. every single great change movement in this country is not defined by its ucis ssuccess. the ones that never happened are the ones that packed up and went home the moment it hit a brick wall. everything that's meaningful in this country failed dozens of times before it succeeded. i'm not planning to be around for 77 years but it took 10 years to the attempted assassination of president regan to the brady bill. there are more people throughout who are plugged into this issue now because they watched a little snippet of what we did or followed us online and in the
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i know it would be very easy for me to discard people. i don't discard people, i stay with peep . that's why i stay with this country and why i am the frontrunner for lot. >> he yiused to make discarding people look so easy, so natural for him. >> brett, you've been a winner, you are a winner. you're great. brett, you're fired. i'm sorry. go. thank you. >> i'm sorry. go, thank you. all the time. nothing to it. he could do it in his sleep and today it was i'm sorry, go thank you time in real life at the campaign. donald trump fired his campaign manager who had never run a presidential campaign. a campaign manager that no one
else in presidential politics would have ever fired. it took him over a year to realize how much his rookie campaign was and doesn't speak well to his skills as president. after he was charged with bat e battery, donald trump figured out that someone else, anyone else could run a better campaign than cory lewandowski and so the most recent victim of donald trump's famous words "you're fired" did interviews did. >> were you compensated for your departure? >> that's internal politics that nobody really cares about. >> that's really the only thing we care about. because it has been widely reported that everyone signed confidentiality agreements that forbid them for life from ever saying anything negative about donald trump.
cory lewandowski's interviews today proceeded as if that was in full force. >> were you surprised this morning when this happened? >> i don't know if it's so much of a surprised. it's been such a privilege to be part of the team. i will support donald trump in any endeavor he has. if i can play a role in this campaign, whether it's formal or informal, that would be an honor for me to have and it's been such an honor and privilege to be part of this from the beginning. it's been great. >> joining me, spokesman for the curages conservatives pack and the cruz campaign. chief investigative reporter for politico. steve, how is the dump trump movement feeling today and is there new energy to that possibility that convention? >> i do want to say that i know cory lewandowski personally. he's a very good manager and people person. and he's a scapegoat for a
failed campaign. >> would you ever have hired him to run his very first presidential campaign? >> someone always runs their very first president campaign. campaign tone and its culture is tet by the cappndidate. he delivered a primary for donald trump, so far, anyway and now he's been thrown under the bus as a scapegoat, because of the failures of donald trump. >> so, what about dump trump at the convention? >> i do not see being the nominee for the republican party. its exploding every single day. on the internet, in the media. del gts are coming to us every single area. they're realizing that -- the polling numbers are a disaster. his fund raising is a joke. his messaging is absurd. he's made it clear that he doesn't need the republican party to win.
he actually said that and this movement is growing. it's the moral obligation that we nominate the candidate best suited not just to defeat hillary clinton but to advance the principals of the republican party. we're that opposite ends of this political battle but that's business. whenever you see a family move into the campaign, when the kids and the wife get involved, that's the sign of a candidate in chaos and a campaign in chaos. and that's what you're seeing with trump right now pm. >> the big decisions have to be made and how many weeks of intervening with donald will it take to get the right decision. >> the kids had always been volve n volved.
they thought he wasn't willing to stand up to him and challenge his gut impulses for conon foritatifo for -- confrontational problems. and once things started to turn a little bit, trying to pivot towards the general election and struggling badly and having the polls are s reflecting that str that's when the kids concerns rose to the for. and it's my understanding that it's questionable the degree this was driven by donald trump verses his own kids. there are sources that drove this. and obviously, donald trump didn't step away from their decision but it does show that the factualism is potentially a factualism involving the kids and whoever's left over from the lewandowski and i don't know if we're turning the page here.
>> i'm wondering about two possible energizers. the finance report showing the trump campaign is basically bankrupt and hillary clinton pulling away from donald trump. both of those things you would think would be major factors. >> i think part of the reason why they scapegoated corey lewandowski is because they were trying to signal to republicans, including notably the folk s a the rnc, that they were ready to move on, ready to get beyond this infighting and run a more professionalized operation. just getting rid of cory lieuenilie lewandows lewandowski, i think that was intended as a signal. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, clay aiken will
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news that donald trump's children have been unhappy with lewandowski for months and pushed their father to fire him. clay aiken who has some experience with how the trump family operates after spending a season with them on the family's tv show where donald trump used to pretend to fire people all in good fun. clay, really appreciate it. what is your read of this news today? you saw them operating on that show? you spend weeks and weeks with them, when you're doing a season of that show? >> you do. and you spend a lot more time with the kids than you do with the donald himself and i think that has to do with the fact that they really are his closest advisors and i think to some degree trump believes he trained them and so they must be the smartest people in the room besides him and he certainly relies on their advice, not just on the show but in life a lot.
i'm not one bit surprised at the rumors, certainly believe the it report that corey lewandowski was fired in large part because of feedback from the kids themselves. >> there's one report of his daughter, ivanka saying him or me, meaning if he stays, i will not stick around and help out. >> she's probably the strongest and one of her father's most close and trusted advisors, when it comes to the organization and dealings. and she is someone who's incredibly loyal to her father. i'd be surprised if she actually did leave for any reason beuti think she realized, if that's true, she probably realized she's far more valuable to him and that would be something that would certainly sway him to make a change. >> now, when you were on that show, did you have to sign
nondisclosure agreements saying you would never say anything negative about donald trump? >> i think most reality shows or competition shows of any kind have some sort of nondespairagement cause. i don't think there's a part of it that's specific about donald trump himself but the production company, nbc, the network has requirements. i'm sure, even though he implied otherwise, i'm sure cory lewandowski had some that he had to sign, probably as he started working with trump and certainly as he left. >> you can see it in working flawlessly today. did it surprise you -- i mean you've run a campaign yourself. you know what it is to gear up in zero and professionalize a campaign. were you surprised that donald trump used people certainly at
the beginning who had never been involved in the campaign before. >> it was not a mistake i wanted to make. i wanted to make sure i had professionals and how the political process worked. i kind of believed there were a lot of people nart wiot willing work with donald trump in the very beginning. he's had people flock to him as he's gotten more success underneath his belt but i think in the early days, he probably had a difficult time getting people to take him seriously and cory lewandowski is somebody who had a hard time getting people to take him seriously. so, they were sort of a match made in heaven and donald trump is very loyal. he is incredibly loyal and i think the only people he's more loyal to than anyone else is his kids. >> you endorsed bernie sanders in the presidential primaries.
are you ready to endorse the presumptive nominee, hillary clinton? >> i mean, i don't think anybody's looking for my endorsement but i certainly am perfectly ready to say i'm supporting hillary clinton in the general election. i think anybody's better and i know him personally. i think anybody would be a better president than donald trump. but i certainly hillary clinton will be the most qualified, the most prepared president that we've had in my lifetime for sure and i'm excited about her being elected in november. >> where's that breaking news banner when we need it. clay aciken for hillary clinton. ahead in the war room. clinton campaign putting a lot of money into tv ads against donald trump. donald trump, zero. every day you read headlines about businesses being hacked
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>> who are you consulting with consistently so you're ready on day one? >> i'm speaking with myself, number one. >> i love war in a certain way. >> including with nukes, yes. including with nukes. >> i want to be unpredictable. i'm not going to tell you right now what i'm going to do. >> i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. >> with 141 days left for the campaign war rooms, joining us in the last word war room, a veteran of president obama and martin o'malley's campaign war rooms and veteran of the mccain
and george w. bush campaign rooms. >> it's huge. in 2012, when president obama started the ad blitz in may, i think, we had a big discrepancy and we were absolutely killing him. and i think the race in some respects was over by june and we were amplifying with e it with tuns of events on the ground. all of it take as lot of money and staff. and trump doesn't have any of that right now. he's not beaten 2-1. $20 million of spending on clinton's part, versus zero on his part. this is when a lot of the opinions are shaped. >> i imagine if you're in the trump war room, you say donald, where's the money? we need money to get on the air here. >> it's even worse than what you're portraying here. the hillary campaign itself is putting on $29 million and then
the super pack is putting up another 20 million between now and the convention. part of it is both these candidates entered into this race a year ago with over 50%, actually 55% unfavorable rating. both today have a 55% or worse unfavorable rating. what you don't want to happen here is have the clinton campaign basically take something straight out of the book of the obama campaign 2012 and use this period of time to not draw up the negatives but suplidify the negatives for trump and driecve down her unfavorables and that looks like the game they're playing here with the clinton campaign running positive ads and the super pack running negative ads. they're going to have to step up to the plate soon to offset that or you're going to start seeing some of this dig in. i disagree a bit that the race
is won in june but it can be if this is allowed to go on and dig deeper with those negative numbers. >> and we have the latest polls that we have on the screen we can show you. hillary clinton is now 47, donald trump at 40 and that movement is hillary clinton pulling away from donald trump. in the middle of this ad buy in the battle ground states. >> and this is what's insane is donald trump goes around saying -- first of all we know he'ser having trouble raising money and he's too good to pick up the phone to solicit from big rich donors. but he goes around saying i'm a billionaire. so if his campaign is in such dire straights, why not kick in a few million dollars? and that is he's not a billionaire. he admitted to lying about his net worth and i think this is
put up or shut up time and i think that the only thing donald trump fears more than losing the presidency is having his networth, actually net worth exposed. >> we've seen candidates slump financially at different times but when they are have the pers resources, they use them. john mccain kept his alive by an infusion of his own money basically when he needed it. this campaign desperately needs money. they have this so-called rich guy who's not giving them anything for this campaign at this point. >> he put some in during the primaries. but the bottom line is he needs to get back to a traditional campaign, get on the phone, talk to these people, get contributions in and work it. work it hard. this is a period of time when, quite frankly, between now and the convention he should be focusing on organization fund raising and bringing talent in under one head and i think
you've began to see some of that today on what happened and i think that was encouraging but we need to see more of that in the upcoming weeks as we lead into the convention. >> and we know every one of those donald trump fund raising calls begins with i know i said i was going to self finance but i'm calling you for money. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, vice president joe biden went after donald trump on national security. most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety teed front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. not toyota. not ford or any other brand. subaru eyesight. an extra set of eyes, every time you drive.
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number of people, including the ukrain's leader who is a close friend of vladimir putin. he sounds like a close ally of vladimir putin. >> i say very nicely wouldn't it be nice if actually we could get along with russia? putin called me brilliant. i like it. they want me to disavow. putin said donald trump is brilliant. >> today joe biden delivered this warning about the trump campaign's embrace of vladimir putin. >> embracing putin at a time of renewed russian aggression, i believe would call into question america's long standing commitment to europe, whole, free and at peace. >> and so the campaign manager upgrade now in the trump campaign is a washington lobbyist with questionable
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it's not like -- have you heard donald trump get anymore serious in this area? >> no i think his foreign policy's a bunch of slogan and bar room talk and ranting. >> let's listen to more of what joe biden said today of fighting isis. >> al qaeda, isil, other off shoots, they're real threats but our campaign against violent extremism must be smart and has to remain consistent with american values. adopting tactics of our enemies, using torture, threatening to kill innocent family members, indescriminately hurting innocent people is damaging to our security. >> most campaigns say it's difficult to get the voter to
pay attention to these elements, the foreign policy and national security elements of a campaign. >> it is. it is difficult because american campaigns tend to be about domestic issues, but the real power of the policy is foreign policy. i've been abroad and in both cases i've been overwhelmed talking to ordinary citizens, military, government leaders, heads of government, they are petraified at the possibility of donald trump and his kocozying to putin. they know it's -- dedication to global institutions. they really are concerned. >> is it conceivable to you that a lobbyist who's now running donald trump's campaign who had close ties to a putin ally actually represented a putin ally, that that could actually be a factor in the way the trump
campaign talks about vladimir putin? >> it could be a factor in it. but also its true that trump has been all over eastern europe looking to market his name over there. for trump, it's the last frontier. his name in eastern europe would be like play boy on a play boy hotel inlets let's say london e 1960s. sounds american,au vaunt guard to them. but we know it's fake. and maybe he thinks because he's trying to do some slogan earring and naming hotels in eastern europe, he knows something about foreign paac policy but he know nothing based on what he's said. it's frightening. >> one is to make fun of him and the other is to take seriously what he said. that's what we saw joe biden
say. take it seriously and explain the danger in it seriously. it seems in the foreign policy national defense area, that there isn't much room for making fun of him. >> well, i mean when hillary clinton spoke, she drew out some of the things he said and she wasn't actually being funny. she was being very pointed and direct and she was impugning his knowledge and exactly the same thing joe biden was doing today and i think that's what has to be done again and again and again. because a lot of the base voters are people who really believe in america. they really do believe this is and should be a strong country. and those people, they can't possibly conceive yet of what it se donald trump's proposing to do. but if we say it enough in enough different ways, maybe that message will begin to sink
through as august turns into september and october because on foreign policy he's reckless and it's not responsible what he said. it's not a coherent policy of any type. so i think our allies are right to be tonight on "all in." >> it would be so easy for me to terminate this man. >> donald trump's campaign manager fired and escorted out of trump tower. >> listen, there's protocols that are in place. >> as his polls continue to slip, the latest on the "bedlam" in the trump campaign. then how team clinton is smashing the trump campaign in ad spending. as fellow democrats keep pounding on the stump. >> every day it becomes clearer that he is a thin-in