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donald trump. is that a comedy or a horror movie? >> for me, even if it was the golf course it would be a horror movie. with triumph, it is more complicated. >> live from scotland, he will explain to us why he now flies a mexican flag on his property beside the trump golf course. >> well done, my friend. i will be riveted. >> we have just completed the most active week in gun control in 20 years in the senator. and the senate had another vote and this time, the nra lost. the rebellion was the peak of the week, it was congressman
peters will be our first guest. >> we are going to win! >> guided by the moral strength of john lewis, our sit-in on the floor resonated around the world. >> we wanted a publicity stunt. it sets a dangerous precedent. >> this isn't about politics, it is the safety of the american people. >> keep your eye on the prize. >> we are watching carefully what happens on the senate side now. >> we should be able to come together and work for common sense solutions. >> let us show the nra they aren't rule on what is said and vetoed on in this chamber, the other chamber or in america. >> we are going to continue to push, to pull, to stand up, if necessary, to sit down!
>> we have just witnessed a week of high drama on gun control. it continued today in the senate where, for once, the national rifle association had a very bad day. a week ago tonight, we were reporting on the stunning concession from senate republican leadership, that chris murphy won after a filibuster actually accomplished something. at first, it seemed the only accomplishment was to get a vote scheduled on competing bills to prevent people on susspected terror lists from buying guns. getting a vote on guns s something that senator murphy couldn't get, after 20 children were gunned down in connecticut. not even a vote. the house of representatives didn't have a vote on any gun
legislation after those children were murdered. it was the murder of those children and their teachers that seemed to make gun legislation the most hopeless possible cause in washington, because, if the mass murder of children couldn't losen the nra's grip, nothing could. then came orlando, and the breaking of the record for victims in this kind of shooting. 49. we didn't know it until senator murphy took a stand on the senate floor. those 49, on top of the 26 at sandy hook elementary school, 32 at virginia tech, 13 at colombine high school. from a colorado movie theater to an oregon community college. on top of all of those bodies, the 49 in orlando, were what it
took to get a vote in the senate. senator murphy and the democrats lost those voteos monday. but today, democrats joined with republican senator susan collins of maine, on a new version of the bill. for the first time the national rifle association lost a vote in the u.s. senate, 52-46. it was a procedural vote, it wasn't for passage, but it keeps it alive. looking for eight more senators, the bill would need to overcome procedural hurdles in the senate. i said, something being on the losing side in the senate is just another step on the long road to victory.
so today, the united states senate took what might be another historic step toward victory. the history of progress in the congress has always been a history of small steps. each of those steps, no matter how small, counts. each of those steps, leads to the possibility that at least the possibility of another step forward. today's vote in the senate came the day after a night like no other in the house of representatives. house rules are designed to make the minority in the house completely irrelevant and powerless. house democrats decided that time had come to break those rules, to become relevant again. so, they did. when at 11 clf 18, the conscious of the congress, john lewis
began in effect, the first filibuster in the house of representatives, where phil busters are against the rules. you saw it, paul ryan had had the c-span cameras were turned off. they showed on their phones, we were allowed to bear witness to, something that house rules say we are not allowed to see. thanks to the house members, that the rules of the house were not senking the americans, who want the bap for people on possible terror lists. >> it would be legislative malpractice for us not to deal with these issues. >> i know what it is like to see a gun pointed at you, and wonder if you were going to live.
i know what it is like to hide dm a closet and pray to god, don't let anything happen to me. >> all we are asking for is a vote, fowlkes. there is nothing about this that is a stunt this. is a reality. we are talking about 32,000 deaths a year. >> silence is not a solution. this demands more. >> mr. speaker, give us this vote. give us this vote. no bill, no break. >> get the hell out of the way. >> i don't know what the end is going to be, just stay here. stay here. we shall win. there is victory on the other side. >> joining us now, scott peters,
one who delivered the video to the world through periscope. i got the periscope app, thanks to your efforts. >> so di, i got it yesterday. >> just got it yesterday. >> i did. >> this was in anticipation needing it on the floor? >> we realize when i got down there, i saw mr. lewis sitting on the floor, in violation of house rules, i realized something important was building. the conversation started, we understood that cameras and microphones had been turned off. the house cameras and microphones, that speaker controls, had been turned off. it was apparent that we wouldn't have a way for the american people to see what is happening. one of my staffers suggested to download the app, periscope. i did, turned it on, it is not within the rules, it is not within the rules to film.
so, i put some movies out through my twitter feed and shut it off. didn't think anything of it. immediately, people said, what happens to peter's feed, can he get it back up again. i was watching that. sergeant at arms was telling us not to film. i snuck a couple more. i was getting such a response, it was other than important for us to show what was happening, civil disobedience, than to strictly abide by the rules. i turn off my camera when they turned theirs back on. the response was amazing, what an opportunity through new technology for america to connect with the government, in a way i suggest probably never happened before. >> i want you to share with the audience what this decision is
like. it isn't a crime. but it is a house rule. i am going to assume that you have never broken a house rule, most members of congress never come close to branging a house rule, or senators breaking senate rules, you stay well within them. i want people to understand that enormity of the decision to do that t even that decision to sit on the floor. it risks some kind of discipline from the house. it does risk some kind of disciplinary action from the house. was it a matter of confidence that came from the numbers, the amount of people involved in this, that you felt we can do this, and they won't take action against us or we will do this, we will suffer whatever consequences the house visit upon us? >> you used the term take action. that is what it is all about.
i took office after the sandy hook massacre. i was elected in 2012. it occurred in december. i said, i felt the same thing, if we are not going to see a change in the attitude toward guns, what is it going to take? we have seen people gunned down in elementary schools, movie theaters, in church, in college, in now, nightclub. maybe what it is like to get that phone call that your kid is not coming back. we are boiling over with frustration. i know we are the minority party, congress is at the lowest popularity in decades, 15, 10%, because we are not doing anything. the american people are behind it. 85%.
background checks for terrorists, we can't get a check on that it is worth knowing about it. otherwise, a long caucus meeting. arguing what we agree on. i think some of the speeches were inspiring. i am glad to see the common purpose. i think we made a difference. i personally know how we tekt connected with the american people through this great opportunity. if you nobody would have been able to contact with the country yesterday. >> it seems you may have swayed some republican votes in the senate. listen to what was said in the senate before that vote. >> surely, on an issue of this
importance, we should be able to come together and vote for common sense solutions. >> let's do something designed to work. that is what this proposal is all b. >> that is a significance step forward in gun control and violence control. >> this motion, the motion tofrm take is really a motion to kill. that is what i expect too many on the other side of the aisle want to give it to the collins proposal. they are afraid if they give it a vote it would be in danger of passing. >> they needed 60 as it happens in the senate. it seems to me, we are seeing things what senator murphy did in his filibuster in the senate.
who knows, if you and the house hadn't done what you did. >> i felt we have changed the conversation about this. small steps are important. this issue is connected to the american people in an american way. they are as fed up taz ta -- up as we are. i think we are going to win this thing. if the speaker wants to continue to fight it. he will add a complication in the fall to a complicated fall for him. >> thank you for joining us. >> the national spokes person for moms demand action her son, jordan davis was killed at age
17. welcome back, nice to see you. what was it like to see, beginning with the filibuster, and the mutanny, the dramatic situation. now t a serious of votes in the senate. that might be the beginning of action. >> this was a historic week, historic moments for congress. we have never seen anything like this. with the congressional leaders. we actually saw them. this was a historic sit-in. a complete change. there is momentum think that we didn't see before. i think the american people have decided, enough is enough.
we are going to make our legislators we know we have a long way to go. the momentum that we have been able to establish at this point, all the people that were outside with me, we were -- we know we are going to win it, is the right thing for the american people. people shouldn't have to live in fear. and that they are listening to the voice of the people. thank you very much for joining
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here is some of lester holt's interview today with donald trump. >> i want to get your reaction to supreme court leaving in place the ban against the obama immigration plan. >> i do want to look at it. study it. we will take a look at it. what was the vote? >> essentially, it is a tie. it leaves in place the
previous -- >> had a feeling it might happen. i will look at both opinions, i will give it to you the next time. >> if you were as president, any of your immigration policies came before the supreme court, would it be your wish that only latina recuse herself? >> no, it wouldn't. i would want people who can vote -- i want people without conflict. you have to assume they don't have a conflict. >> iz ask you with your objections with the judge. >> i have a case, they love the course, we will win the case. >> coming up, the dump trump movement at the republican convention. and neighbors of his golf course in scotland will join us live from scotland.
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offensive. not as rubber stamps, to make real decisions to make decisions on our party, normally, our delegates would ratify the winner this is one of those times, the delegates need to be free. call steve chefler, and let them pick the best republican to beat hillary clinton. >> another group will begin a national ad tv campaign, the trump campaign is organizing a whip operation too keep delegates from deflecting at the convention, including a detailed profiles attending the convention. the snirt editer, and washington
bureau chief. they are doing that campaign stuff, that everybody is supposed to do, and working on for a long time. they are finally -- now that they are getting hit with radio ads trying to get delegates away from them. >> don't go toor far, let's stick with three-fourths of the delegates, clearly the trump cane pam is g-- campaign -- obviously, the trump campaign is not fully engaged, waking up to the to the fact that there could be chaos in cleveland. i still feel, there is enough
factors in his favorite, he will end up with the nomination. >> it seems if donald trump gets through a speech, the waters calm a bit. >> this is
republican senator, running for reelection in illinois. >> the first republican to support obama's supreme court nominee. courageous and independent. >> it was bounce to watch it a republican senator running against donald trump. instead of against an opponent. >> there are a handful, a few key stays across the count reese
it does have a lot of time and movement to make a sent -- they were okay with the trump nominee. that is some sort of dump truck movement. that is they have no one to rally around. they don't have much money, they have had fates, on and off never able to get thenlgz together. i don't see how it could, next
to knocking over a dunk, i don't think that would hurt trump. >> 7% think it is united. it will be united by november. it will stay decided through north all the factors that, the chief among them. there is no one figure who is going to be the aenlt trump. you would be risking a lot. if you putz your neck out. rally around me. at this juncture, 45% of the
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. trump is going to scotland this week. >> donald trump has always been seen as something of a grotesque american curiosity in britann. >> it looks like we are not going to have a very good relationship. >> that was the clinton campaign send-off to donald trump, who is somewhere over the north atlantic at this moment on his way to his mother's homeland of scotland. donald trump is making the traditional campaign stop to visit golf courses. well, it is not exactly traditional, but it will be, when a member of the trump family runs for president. it is the trump university of golf courses, all of of the
promises that he made to get permission to build the place, he promised a 450-round luxury hotel and spa, creates maybe 7,000, today, it employs 150 people, and 19 rooms to rent. the golf course is never crowded. one neighbor of the golf course painted no more trump lies on the side of one of his buildings. trump tried to seize their appropria property. and after building one fence to block one of the neighbors, donald trump sent that neighbor a bill to pay for that fence. that neighbor, david said, it
ain't getting paid. i am never paying it so much for donald trump's promise to get mexico to pay for that wall. joining us now, by skype, david milne, he is now the author of a book "blinded by thebling." about donald trump. i asked, would having donald trump as a neighborhood,america awaits your answer? >> we never know what stunt they will that is where the horror sets in. you are never sure.
>> dealing with trump is -- >> the man made a fool of himself and his team, the project is not doing well. i don't think it is doing well. why else, open your clubhouse. >> would it spri you to learn that he has republicaned losing money in financial reports made in school land, he claims to be losing money. >> we heard about this. when disclosure you see the way
he dealing with things, not appreciates, that is truly international. this is the sofrtd of comforts. >> it seems common business sense, you will have to use democratic skills, hearts and minds. you can't sfeem roll people to agreeing with you. >> what is it that he understand? >> i think it is a fornl. he doesn't seem to careful about
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. >> each side, throwing it at each other, everyone is wrong, this side is wrong, just give the facts, tell everybody in the street what to vote for. it is just, it is just turning into a war now, it is just annoying. >> joining us now, dominick rush, for the guardian. if europe wakes up in three hours, to the uk having lftd the european union, what happens? >> it is a nail bitter. the economy, the u.s. economy, and the u.k., and the french and the chinese, u.k. is the fifth
largest economy in the world. tomorrow morning, it becomes, say we do exit, the polls are suggesting we may do. tomorrow, the u.k., becomes a different country. all right, tonight, the pound, rallied to a high that it haentd reached since 2008. dropped 6%. that is because of the fears of what will happen to the u.k. economy. tomorrow morning, we will see panic in the u.k. stock market if we are out. it will spill over to the markets. >> the decision to leave, from the decision decades ago to join, the common market. the incentive back then was, we
want to imitate this giant market in the united states, where there is no tariffs between mississippi and alabama, and you have a giant, free market. all the tariffs around europe. all the tariffs are gone. the ability to move from country to country disappeared. it doesn't seem realistic to expect that those tariffs would go back up. a world trade agreement that would leverage against that it wouldn't go back to what it was before? >> no, that is true. if you look at the european union is trying to negotiate a trade agreement with canada for seven years, still haven't finalized it. the u.k. from tomorrow, nobody knows what will happen. if the u.k. is on its own, piece
by piece, it will be a large economy. 60 million people, not as powerful as together. to me, one of the most disappointing parts of this whole debate has been how little posivity the union has done. this is a block of countries, it made game of thrones look like dora the explorer. >> that is taken for granted now. at the out-set of this venture, the idea of this will stop european war. nobody thinks there could be a european war again. >> i think that is right. >> have a nice night.
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making the corner stone of his campaign is bigotry. we have to make sure he is not president. that is not good enough. what we have to do is continue the vision of transforming this country. >> that was some of bernie sander's speech. here is some of donald trump's interview with lester holt. >> will you take wall street money? >> let me tell you differently. i have turned down millions of people that i have don't really want to give me money. >> you made afternoon appeal to bernie sanders' voters to come over to team trump. you are asking those who support
a socialist, to -- >> i am no fan of bernie. i think his ideas, many of them, not so good. he has one point that she doesn't understand, that most politicians don't understand. that we are being ripped off on trade. that is a massive thing. he understands that. >> joining us now. a former democratic state senator for ohio, she introduced him tonight. you listen to donald trump saying, trying to appeal to sanders' voters. your reaction is what? >> he said he is not a fan of the senator. i am here, the breaking news, the senator is not a fan of his
either. i know there are some bernie or bust out there. i daunt any of them would go to -- anyone who says the working poor makes too much money. he is not talking to a sanders supporter. >> if you are a sanders support er. >> even before we got to this moment with the math. he has been saying mr. trump is not fit to be president of the united states of america. that is not going to change. >> what about that overlap, on the issue of trade? naseems to be the only issue -- >> that is real. i am from the state of ohio.
he may not -- he does have something. democrats can't take him for granted. being anti-trump is not going to get there. we have to be pro young people. pro the working class. >> hillary clinton eventually join joined lim shally opposing -- >> the senator pushed her there. she is there now. >> we wil have to leave it there tonight. nina turner, you get tonight's
last word. great to see you. >> you too. >> tonight on "all in" -- >> i think it is heartbreaking for the millions of immigrants who made their lives here, who have raised families here. >> a supreme court split delivers a major blow to undocumented families. raising the stakes even higher for november. >> i will build a great, great wall. >> and putting gop obstruction into sharp relief. >> republicans in congress currently are willfully preventing the supreme court from being fully staffed and functioning as our founders intended. >> after 25 hours democrats end their sit-in over gun laws. >> the fight is not over. >> the congresswoman who brought the bullet that nearly killed her joins me tonight. >> five bullets ripped through my body. i can't begin to tell you what that is like. >> plus, reaction from baltimore as a third police officer is not convicted in the dea o