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negative for 2016. we're back to levels where we were mid-march. that's the closing bell right there. what everybody is trying to figure out is how exposed american stocks, american companies, the american economy is to the brexit. some traders are trying to move the focus -- they're wondering if brexit was a catalyst to get investors focused on what may be more fundamental weakness in the u.s. economy or not. kristen? >> olivia, thank you. thanks for your congratulations. let me ask you one quick question before i let you go. if you are an investor, what's the message right now? and should people be jittery about their 401(k)s? >> well, if you have a 401(k), as half of all americans do through their employer, you've noticed you probably have lost a couple thousand dollars over the course of the past couple of days as the dow has dropped by about 6%. what it more likely means is that rates are going to stay
lower longer. there's this new headwind for the economy. the last thing the central bank is going to do is go ahead and raise rates. if you do have money, what some people like to say down here is you may be better off buying a new home right now because mortgage rates are so low than buying into stocks. there's so much uncertainty ahead. nobody knows when this will settle out. some are wondering whether a political contagious in another country can -- we don't know how long it's going to take for britain to leave the eu, what these new trade deals are going to look like, whether the banks are going to leave london and head for paris or frankfurt. so much uncertainty out there. and that is sort of toxic to investment and toxic to growth. i'll leave you on one interesting note which is the volatility index we sometimes call the fear gauge, that's actually down for the day. that's interesting particularly because there's been so much volume. and that suggests to some traders on the floor that perhaps the fear has kind of petered out and they're hoping this may be a bit of a bottom.
>> all right. nbc's olivia sterns tracking all of the fast-moving developments. olivia, thank you. and we want to turn now to politics. and the big news out of this city just behind me. thousands gathering to attend a campaign rally for hillary clinton in cincinnati. the presumptive democratic nominee joined for the first time by her attack dog in chief senator elizabeth warren. the pair delivered a one-two punch painting donald trump as the wrong choice for the middle class. take a listen. >> what's kind of a man roots for people to lose their jobs, to lose their homes, to lose their life savings? i'll tell you what kind of a man. a small, insecure money grubber who fights for no one but himself. >> i got into this race because i wanted to even the odds for people who have the odds stacked against them. and this is not a time for half
measures. to build an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top, we've got to go big, and we've got to go bold. >> their synergy sparking rumors of a more official union. donald trump calling their political partnership nothing short of a stunt saying in a statement this morning, quote, this sad attempt at pandering to the sanders wing is another example of a typical political calculation by d.c. insiders. the latest numbers say voters are on team clinton. the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll gives clinton a five-point lead over donald trump up from just three points a month ago. but they are no doubt focussing on as well a new abc news/"washington post" poll showing clinton has a whopping 12-point lead over her likely general election opponent. and i want to begin in chicago where hillary clinton just wrapped up her remarks at her second event of the day just
moments ago at the rainbow push women's international luncheon. my fellow road warrior, kasie hunt is there. she joins me from chicago. break it down. how does this event this afternoon, planning to build on what we saw here in cincinnati today? >> well, we're all over the place today. it's hard to keep up with her. this -- this event here in chicago, the beginning very somber. this was -- she acknowledged and listed out people who died from gun violence. obviously, chicago has been very hard hit by such incidents, and the crowd here clearly very personally connected to that as an issue. and she spent quite a bit of time here talking about that. but one thing that stuck out to me here as well, kristen, this was clearly a crowd where she felt pretty at home. and we heard her talk a little bit more than usual about how voters don't trust her. she said pollsters tell me that voters don't trust me, and i don't like it when that happens.
the submission from her that in some ways there have been mistakes that have been made but she also went on to say that there are corners of the internet where people are saying things about her that, of course, contribute to that lack of trust. and she also used donald trump to reframe that saying, you know, i choose my words carefully. people interpret that as caution or that it's that i'm hiding something. it's not really that. it's just that i choose my words carefully is what she said. trying to reframe something that's been a major weakness for her into a strength when it comes to running against donald trump. >> i think that's undoubtedly the strategy there. really a good point. i want to ask you about the other big topic today. veepstakes. the fact that secretary clinton had her first joint event here with senator elizabeth warren. the crowd was so energized. it was impossible not to take note. what was your main takeaway from this event? do you get the sense that today was a tryout for senator warren?
>> you have, of course, been doing a ton of reporting on this as well. it seems undoubtedly that, yes, this was in some ways an audition of sorts. in other ways perhaps a way for the two women to get to know each other better in a different setting. we've talked about how secretary clinton really is focused on picking a running mate that is not just somebody who can step into the office but also somebody with whom she gets along, with whom she has a strong rapport. clearly this kind of campaign setting would matter for something like that. and i think that energy, too, having covered elizabeth warren when she was one of the main surrogates for a lot of democrats who were running for midterm offices in 2014. or even covering bernie sanders. that excitement and energy from progressives from the left, from the base of the party, it's not always in the room when it's just hillary clinton by herself. and i think, you know, you got a taste of that today. and that underscores why she is on this list to begin with, right? she can play that attack dog
role while exciting those base voters of the democratic party. it still seems to me that she is more of a dark horse than some of the other names on the list. tim kaine chief among them at this point. kaine taking a little dig at elizabeth warren over the weekend when he says you can't know if you're ready to be commander in chief. remember elizabeth warren talking to rachel maddow saying, yes, i am ready to be commander in chief. >> all right. msnbc's kasie hunt, my fellow road warrior, breaking it down. thanks so much. n i want to turn now to nbc political annual uft and former governor of pennsylvania, ed rendell who supports hillary clinton. thanks for joining me. >> my pleasure. and congratsulations. your mom is very pleased. there's joy in philadelphia. >> i appreciate that. >> my mom, of course, lives in philadelphia, so you would know, yes. thank you, governor. i appreciate it. let me start with the news of
the day. this joint appearance with senator warren and secretary clinton. a lot of eyes on this event. a sense this was a tryout. was it, and did senator warren pass? did this move her up the short list on potential vp picks? >> it certainly drove home the point that elizabeth warren can excite crowds. there's no question about it, and excite progressives. some of the sanders camp, i heard during the campaign, were a little annoyed at senator warren because she didn't endorse bernie sanders. but still, she didn't endorse hillary clinton either. she stayed neutral, which i think was the proper stance for her to take under those circumstances. so she does have that as a significant plus. the draw backs, obviously, are two women on the ticket, does it make a difference? i don't think so, but some people might. does elizabeth warren have the experience to be commander in chief? i think tim kaine, i'm not sure
he was taking a dig at elizabeth warren. i think tim kaine was answering that question honestly. it's very difficult, unless you've been in the military or you were secretary of state and are privy to military decisions, it's very hard to say, yes, i have had the experience that qualifies me for commander in chief. so, look, i think elizabeth warren is on a very short list and i think today did nothing to hurt her chances. >> do you think tim kaine is still at the top of that list after what we saw today, governor rendell? >> well, i think he might be. he's experienced. he led as a governor and was a terrific executive. he and i shared time together as governors of pennsylvania n virginia. and he was one of the standout governors in the country. he's got executive experience. he's been a good senator. has had a lot of contact with military affairs and military budgets and foreign affairs. i think he's near the top of the list. remember, he voted, as i would
have voted, for giving the president trade authority. and that's something that the progressive wing looks at with great lack of credibility. so it's a balancing test. there's no perfect candidate out there, kristen. >> well, and i want to go back to what you raised, since you did bring it up, this question of experience and readiness to be commander in chief. you had questioned whether senator warren was ready to be commander in chief. she says she is. is she? and is tim kaine, given what we heard on "meet the press" this weekend? >> as i said, i don't think unless you were a general and served in the military, unless you had a tremendous amount of experience dealing with military, like hillary clinton was on the military affairs committee for all of her time in the senate, that type of experience is useful, obviously, very helpful.
tim kaine was a governor. and as governor, our national guards played an unexpected but very significant role in "operation enduring freedom" and "operation iraqi freedom." but it's very hard to find a candidate who has exactly the type of experience that's necessary to be commander in chief. you learn on the job. some people are more qualified by their experience level than others. but it's very difficult to find someone who fits the exact bill. >> let me ask you about a conference call that scott brown had earlier today with reporters hitting elizabeth warren and this event echoing some of what we heard from donald trump. he accused elizabeth warren of reverse racism, saying that she has native american roots and that she essentially made that up. he went so far as to call on her to get a dna test. could this be an effective line of attack, and how do you anticipate the clinton campaign is going to respond? >> i think it's absolutely ludicro ludicrous.
we'll have dna test for our presidential candidates? good lord. no, i think that's an issue. it's typical of what the republican campaign has raised. issues that have nothing to do with the merits of someone and the qualifications of someone running for office. absolutely, good lord, we're going to have genetics testing for people? i mean, it's an absurd idea. i don't think it will resonate one iota with the american people. >> and very quickly, governor, because i'm getting a hard wrap, donald trump will be in pennsylvania tomorrow. and polls show it's a tight race there. why is the state so close when a republican hasn't won since george h.w. bush? >> well, first of all, you are talking about the quinnipiac poll. i'm not sure that poll is entirely accurate. but, look, i have said all along what donald trump says has a great deal of appeal to people who have lost their jobs. to people who have seen their factories close. and we have a lot of that in certain parts of pennsylvania.
so he's going to be initially very, very, very attractive to some of those people. but in the long run, i think he's going to lose because he's just not credible. think about it. he goes to scotland. he's there in scotland the day after the brexit vote. and all he can talk about is the pound being devalued and that's good for his golf course. does anybody want a president who thinks like that? >> all right, governor ed rendell, thank you for joining me this afternoon. i really, really appreciate it. thanks for all your well wishes. more attacks today from donald trump against senator elizabeth warren. in a call with nbc news, nbc's hallie jackson had the details about this. you spoke with donald trump. tell me what came out of the conversation. >> more attacks against elizabeth warren, kristen. and in a tone we didn't see from trump during his tweet online this morning or during that statement that was e-mailed from his campaign after that joint
speech from clinton and warren earlier today. trump calling warren a total fraud. calling her, essentially, pocahontas again, reupping this nickname that many find offensive but one in which trump has doubled down on for weeks now. he also believes she made up her native american heritage going after claims she exaggerated her heritage, calling her racist saying what she did was racist. this is a tone very different from the one trump has taken over the last week. we saw him go after clinton in that policy oriented speech, an anti-trump speech. since then, talk of some kind of a pivot to being possibly more presidential or to striking a different kind of tone. but trump really brushed that off when we talked earlier this afternoon saying, i do what i do. he pointed to his victories in the primaries, pointed to his landslide wins indicating, why should he change now in the general election. you look at where polling is. that could be a sign that trump may be seeing some of the warning signs or his campaign
could be, particularly when you look at the national polls we've been talking about down five points in our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. down as many as 12 points in other polls out there. what his campaign will do is point to where he is in some of these swing states like pennsylvania, for example. heard you talking to rendell there. and, like ohio, too, trump set to visit ohio tomorrow for his first rally since this quote/unquote trump 2.0. and for the first time since he became the presumptive republican nominee eight weeks ago. hillary clinton has visited this very important battleground state three times in the last three weeks. >> all right. nbc's hallie jackson, great reporting today. really appreciate it. and now we tht bring in trump supporter and former contestant on "the apprentice," erin elmore. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk about where donald trump is right now and his
campaign. he's coming off of a rocky couple of weeks. he got blasted over this weekend for being in scotland on what seemed to be a business trip. as a trump supporter, how critical is it, do you think, that he gets back on message this week? >> see, i think that he is on message. it depends how you look at the situation. he called this brexit vote as opposed to obama and hillary clinton saying no, no, no. it looks like they missed the mark whereas donald trump was on point. look what's happening over there. the british have spoken. they are very anti-establishment, pro-nationalist and that's what's happening here in the united states with the trump movement. that vote worked out in favor of donald trump. here we are. >> let me ask you about that because what we heard from donald trump in scotland was he said the market volatility could help his personal business. as you know, a lot of republicans were upset when they heard that. is that staying on message? does he need to come back and shift his tone a little bit? >> i would love a president that could make lemonade out of lemons, if you will.
he's over there understandably, it is a rough situation and it was an economic overreacting. but let's put it this way. if something bad happens, i want a president that can look at the silver lining and do something positive for the united states of america. that's what donald trump is saying here. >> trump continues to say, look, he hasn't really started campaigning. you know, give him time. the poll numbers are going to shift around once he gets into the race and a lot of people are scratching their heads wondering why he hasn't really gotten into this race from his own perspective when he had about seven weeks of the general election to himself. when he had clinched the nomination before secretary clinton had. why isn't he firmly in this race? >> he's firmly in the race but i do believe he's waiting until after the convention to ramp up his campaigning. he's a nontraditional candidate totally shifting paradigms. he's waiting for the conventions. there's going to be a bump in precedent and numbers. he's going to hit the ground running with a great vice
presidential candidate and likely win this nomination because of it. i think, great. let's take a back seat, relax, let hillary clinton fatigue herself and be the we'll hit the ground running after the gop convention and win the election. >> i have to ask you about the big news out of cincinnati. the fact that hillary clinton had her first joint event with senator elizabeth warren. i'm wondering what you make of that and why senator warren is so good at, as a lot of people have pointed out, getting under donald trump's skin. why does she get to him? >> i don't think she gets to him at all. she was out there sounding a little, in my opinion, like an angry, bitter woman. i think hillary has her out there for her own identification. she's from the bernie sanders type and wants to electrify and get those voters to vote for her instead of being anti-establishment and vote for donald trump. >> is it appropriate -- is it appropriate -- >> excuse me? >> is it appropriate for him to call her pocahontas as he has? >> i'm of native american
descent. i think she's one of the most well known native americans. perhaps it's a comp accomplishment. >> all right. we'll leave it there, erin elmore. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> that was trump supporter and former "apprentice" contestant erin elmore. donald trump says ban muslims and build a wall. chris jansing talks with voters on whether that's fair or hurtful. plus, an abortion rights victory. what the supreme court's ruling means for clinics and women all across the country. that and more when our live coverage continues from cincinnati, ohio. stay with us. ok team, what if 30,000 people download the new app? we're good. okay... what if a million people download the new app? we're good. five million? good. we scale on demand. hybrid infrastructure, boom. ok. what if 30 million people download the app? we're not good.
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back now live from cincinnati where hillary clinton held her first rally earlier today with senator elizabeth warren. today, a renewed focus on swing states, especially the state of florida where the most recent statewide polling shows clinton just three points ahead of donald trump, inside the margin of error. chris jansing traveled to the sunshine state to talk to voters about a wide range of top i thinks that could sway decision 2016. what are voters telling you? >> they are talking about immigration, given brexit and all the comments made by donald trump. here's what they told me. what about the idea of building a wall and mexico is going to pay for it. >> a lot of other countries have walls. why can't we have one? >> it's not part of our values
and origin as a country who accepts people of all walks of life. trump doesn't provide the facts on how he plans to make mexico pay for this wall. so i'd like to see that from him. >> i agree. my husband is mexican descent and his grandparents are from mexico. and to say to build a wall, it tears at the very fabric of our united states, of being exclusive with everyone. >> times have changed. yes, we are accepting. show us your weak, tired and poor. it needs to have a no vacancy. put up a wall against canada. all the money we spend outside this country helping poor nations, muslim nations, dumping money into millions and millions of dollars. put up a wall around this country. educate our youth. put it into our inner cities and dump all that money into america. the people. >> as a trump republican, saying that we should dump money into this country, you would support universal health care for all because that doesn't seem to be a platform that donald trump and
other republican party supported. >> let's get back to the wall. i don't think we should build a wall. how are we going to stop the majority of mexican who come through tunnels. for donald trump to say he wants to build a wall and say mexico is going to pay for it. he hasn't laid out a plan. >> he says he's a great negotiator. >> he's offended a lot of mexican people by proposing that that they're going to pay for it. >> they're from mexico. yes, they would be offend. >> what's happened in orlando, o omar mateen was born in the united states. >> some of my dearest friends are muslim and after what happened in orlando with my brothers and sisters in the community it was my muslim friends who were the first ones to pick up the phone. >> do you support some sort of limitation on muslims coming into this country? >> i support a limitation on allowing immigration right now. it's not -- >> period. >> it's immigration period. i think our country has a significant immigration problem. i agree.
i don't think a wall is the solution. i don't agree with the wall stance at all. >> and yet you support donald trump. >> correct. because the idea that i'm supposed to agree with everything that one candidate does, i think is ludicrous. >> at the same time, i thought it was interesting that everybody suggested donald trump, even his most staunch supporters, might want to ratchet back the rhetoric a little bit and we talked to those two undecided voters. one a republican, one a democrat. both thought that in his response to brexit that donald trump did kind of ratchet it back and they were listening. so the question of whether or not donald trump, if he starts to act what more people consider to be presidential or comes back on some of the rhetoric, can that really ever be dialed back? can he ever gain some of those voters who are very skeptical of some of the things he said? at least in this very tiny sampling, the answer right now may be yes. kristen? >> fascinating conversation that
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a major victory today for abortion rights advocates by the united states supreme court. the justices struck down texas' restrictions on clinics that's would have closed all but nine of the state's abortion facilities. the restrictions placed an undue burden on women. nbc justice correspondent pete williams joins me from outside the supreme court. pete, break this down and explain why this is such a significant ruling. >> it's the biggest abortion rights ruling in 25 years. the court applies that undue burden standard which is the one it last enunciated 25 years ago when it said the states can
restrict access to abortion but only if it isn't an undue burden. there were two provisions in the texas law. one said doctors have to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals. what this opinion written by justice stephen breyer for the other four members of the court said in the past the texas law said doctors had to have appropriate arrangements with doctors at hospitals if there was a complication and they needed to get a patient in there. but the court said the number of complications from abortions is among the smallest for any surgical procedure. seco secondly, the law says abortion clinics have to be built to the same standards, staffing, equipment, architecture and so forth of walk-in surgical centers. and the court said that doesn't make much sense when you consider a large number of abortions require taking only two pills. the woman comes in, takes a pill and goes home. if complications are going to arise, they're going to arise at home, not in the clinic. for all those reasons, the court
said these are additional obstacles without any medical benefits and, therefore, unconstitutional. >> and, pete, taking it one step further, texas is obviously just one of a number of states that has similar restrictions. do you anticipate this is going to have implications for other states across the country? how is that going to work? >> absolutely. by its terms, the rule applies only to the texas law. there's about a dozen other states with similar provisions. they'll take the supreme court ruling, go back to court and say the same logic that applied in texas auought to apply here and they'll move to get those laws struck down. people opposed to abortion for years trying to get more restrictions on the women patients themselves. noteification periods, waiting periods, how far into the pregnancy you could have an abortion. then they switched strategies and decided to go after the clinics and doctors. now that's not working. so it's back to the drawing table for them. >> all right. nbc news justice correspondent
pete williams outside the supreme court as always. thanks so much. i want to bring in the democratic senator from hawaii. thank you so much, senator, for joining me. give me your initial gut reaction to this? i know you think that this is a win. >> oh, i think it's a tremendous, tremendous win. and i was outside of the supreme court when the court was hearing this case. and there were so many people there saying -- with signs saying leave our bodies alone, et cetera. this is a tremendous win. it's the most significant court decision that protects a woman's right and access to reproductive services in decades. and not only that, what i find particularly important about this case is the supreme court didn't just take texas' word for it as to why they were passing these restrictions. they looked eed at the actual et
of these limitations and said they do not meet the undue burden test the supreme court laid out. >> and do you anticipate that this is going to have impact in states all across the country? i was just discussing that with pete williams who said this really does apply to texas, but clearly we'll see ripple effects. >> if there are already similar statutes from other states in court, then this will be the guidance for those decisions. but any state that is contemplating these kinds of laws should think twice. and to the extent that there are no lawsuits regarding some of the states that already have these provisions, i would say lawsuits will ensue. and this court's decision will be positive. >> donald trump has said that if he's elected, he is going to appoint a pro-life supreme court justice. so if you put this into the 2016 context, obviously secretary clinton tweeted about this case
earlier today. but do you anticipate that this could energize some of donald trump's supporters? >> well, i know that it will certainly energize the hillary clinton supporters because she has been consistently in support of a woman's right and access to these kinds of services. and what i remember donald trump saying is that women who get abortions should be prosecuted. and that is the kind of statement that energizes hillary clinton's base, our base and this ruling will be further, i think, will further energize all of the women in our country who support reproductive choice and protection of our constitutional right to access these kinds of services. >> democratic senator from hawaii, mazie hurano. >> aloha. >> thank you. coming up next, warren joins the stump appearing for the first time with hillary clinton in ohio.
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>> appear with the democratic presumptive nominee, warren stirred up the crowd by calling trump goofy, a money grubber and a nasty man. speculation is mounting the massachusetts democrat is in the top tier of vice presidential options for clinton. donald trump responded to warren's remarks saying, elizabeth warren is a total fraud and a racist and we call her pocahontas for a reason. kelly o'donnell joins us from capitol hill. my friend and colleague there on capitol hill, you, obviously, have been tracking all of the veepstakes. today was a big day. a lot of buzz. what are you hearing about this joint appearance and how it may be shaking up the veepstakes? >> whether she's selected to be on the ticket or not, elizabeth warren showed what she can do to help hillary clinton in november because being a surrogate is also a very important part. going out, being able to campaign for the prominent candidate is essential. and a vp certainly needs though capabilities and bringing along
excitement and getting a crowd going. and as you used the phrase attack dog, that's is a typical role that a running mate needs to play. and elizabeth warren has been unblinking in her willingness to go after donald trump on a stage like that's. also using his favorite tool of social media, twitter. clearly in those ways, she has passed that threshold. that doesn't mean that that sails her into the running mate slot. a number of options for hillary clinton. a year when as a democrat at the top of the ticket, she has a large bench from which to choose. other popular names we're hearing, sherrod brown of ohio. progressive. ohio, ohio, ohio. a state hillary clinton needs to win, wants to win. sherrod brown would help there. one of the newer faces, cory booker, senator from new jersey. former mayor of newark. he's a big name. secretary julian castro who is working inside the obama
administration. formerly mayor of san antonio. often known as the pair of twins, julio and joaquin castro, bright spots in the democratic party. the question for them is, are they ready at 41? the one brother, of course, the other is a member of congress here. and when you look at the choices hillary clinton has, she can choose from people with established experience in the executive side with tim kaine, currently a senator, former governor. talk about progressive credibility with elizabeth warren, sherrod brown. talk about demographics with latino lawmakers like javier becerra. and you can look to someone like julian castro or the labor secretary tomas perez who may be more of a dark horse but is said to be said from clinton circles very well thought of. hillary clinton has sort of the problem of riches, many good selections, many good potential running mates. each could bring different skills, different sort of qualities to the campaign.
and so whatever they choose, whomever they choose, it will be really an option of looking at a number of good possibles. now one of the real challenges is, is there a cost to any of these nominees? and certainly with warren and with booker n sherrod brown, they come from states with a republican governor who would be able to choose their successor in the senate, at least for the short run, and that has to be part of the calculation. kristen? >> kelly, i have to ask you about donald trump and his potential vp pick. there is a sense in the political world that he should choose someone who will be a stabilizing force to his campaign. someone potentially more from the establishment. but we're getting clues that trump may not be interested in going that route. what are you hearing? >> so little about what donald trump has done goes the conventional route. he's his own attack dog. typically that running mate says the things that the top of the ticket cannot or should not say. and donald trump has no problem doing that himself.
we do know that he has been pretty clear about saying he wants someone with government experience as a balance to his business experience. someone who could be a liaison between a trump administration and lawmakers. that puts into play three senators who are being talked about. bob corker of tennessee, john thune of south dakota and jeff sessions of alabama. now corker is perhaps at the top of the list of what's being publicly discussed because he's got that foreign policy credibility as the chairman of the foreign relations committee. john thune is in leadership. that's certainly a big help. and jeff sessions has been the architect of trump's immigration plan. so they all have qualities. and then there are three governors. chris christie who passes the loyalty test, mary fallon who had been in congress. obviously a woman leader is something that trump could consider. and rick scott of florida. florida is so important. and rick scott also came from the business ranks, self-made to be that's outsider kind of candidate. those are some names we think he is considering.
but because trump has been so unconventional, perhaps he'll really surprise us all. kristen? >> no doubt about that. the great kelly o'donnell from capitol hill. great to see you. thank you. i want to bring in ileana johnson, the washington editor at the national review and evan mcmorris santsoro, the white house reporter at buzzfeed who also hosts the podcast no one knows anything. great to see you guys. evan, i want to start with you. you covered the sanders campaign during the primary. obviously a lot of focus today on senator elizabeth warren, her chemistry with secretary clinton. do you think she could be effective at winning over a number of those sanders supporters? >> well, first of all, congratulations to you, kristen. having been fortunate enough to meet your betrothed, or your fiance, he's very lucky, but you're pretty lucky, too. >> thank you. i am indeed, evan. thank you. >> to your question, so this
morning, when elizabeth warren was talking at this rally with hillary clinton, a lot of people were tweeting about how great she was doing, how happy they were. democrats thrilled with that event. i tweeted something to the effect of it looks like democrats are happy with hillary clinton. and i got just a few bernie diehards talking about how they don't like elizabeth warren any more because she didn't endorse bernie. your own poll that came out this week, the poll from "the washington post" n abc that's came out this week, democrats are coming home to hillary. and democrats like elizabeth warren. and that's a powerful image on stage which is why hillary clinton did it today. from the coverage it's been effective for her. >> that's a great point. the optics were powerful today. ileana, i want to turn to you. you had some reporting last month on newt gingrich's prominence in the trump campaign.
obviously as kelly o'donnell was laying out, a lot of other possible contenders. do you think he's still on the short list or at least high up in the ranking? >> hi, kristen. news broke, i believe, last week that newt gingrich was not being vetted. now it's difficult to know how seriously to take something like that because it's unclear to me how serious of a vetting operation trump actually has in place. and whether he'll actually thoroughly vet his vice presidential nominee in the end. what's clear about his vice presidential choice is that it's going to have to be somebody who is plausible, but more importantly, it's going to have to be somebody who wants to do it. and somebody that -- some of the people that you showed on screen a little bit earlier, including, you know, kelly aiot rkyotte of hampshire, some have been clear they don't want this job. they aren't planning to attend the convention. the handful of people include jeff sessions, newt gingrich,
chris christie. these are people who have been very clear that they pass the plausiblity test and more importantly, they have made very clear that they would like the job. >> guys, great conversation. unfortunately, we're short on time. eliana johnson, from the national review and evan mcmorris santoro from buzzfeed. thanks to both of you for a great conversation. wall street still reacting to the uk's vote to break from the eu. at this hour, more questions than answers as to how the breakup will affect your bottom line. we'll take a look coming up next. can you pick me up at 6:30? ah... (boy) i'm here! i'm here! (cop) too late. i was gone for five minutes! ugh! move it. you're killing me. you know what, dadi'm good. (dad) it may be quite a while before he's ready, but our subaru legacy wi be waiting for him.
the dow closing down 260 points today. that's a nearly 900-point fall over the past two sessions. all the major averages posting their biggest two-day drop since last august. investor uncertainty over britain's vote to leave the european union continuing to weigh on the markets. across the atlantic, british prime minister david cameron telling parliament negotiations for britain to leave the eu will happen at a measured pace. >> the british government will not be triggering article 50 at this stage. before we do that, we need to determine the kind of relationship we want with the eu. this is our sovereign decision, and it will be for britain and britain alone to take. tomorrow is also an opportunity to make this point. britain is leaving the european union, but we must not turn our back on europe or on the rest of the world.
>> nbc's matt bradley joins us from london. let's start with what we just heard from british prime minister david cameron saying he'll not be triggering article 50. tell us what that means and what folks there are saying today. >> well, kristen, article 50 is basically the formal legal mechanism by which any country can leave the european union. this will be article 50's maiden voyage. no country has ever invoked article 50 because no country has ever left the eu. so david cameron, the outcoming british prime minister said on friday and again today that he would not be invoking article 50. he's going to leave that to his successor. but that could leave months, could be until september that the conservative party comes up with a successor for david cameron, which means the current climate of political instability and financial distress could last for months. now some british politicians, they want to see some informal negotiations in the meantime.
but today, european leaders said no way. either you invoke article 50 or you don't. there will be no jockeying for position. no negotiating for a better deal. there's something of some political brinksmanship. a game of chicken across the english channel. in the middle of all of that is u.s. secretary of state john kerry. he shuttled today from europe to london where he was trying to make sure that both of these countries, no matter what the deal ends up being, end up as strong and united partners for american defense. >> the special relationship that we often refer to is perhaps even more important in these days of questioning on behalf of many people, but i want to make clear that we believe, we the united states, believe that it remains as strong and as crucial as ever. >> now, okay, alongside all of this lofty diplomatic talk, i
want to bring up some of the darker side of this brexit. this vote has empowered some of the more base forces here in britain just today, the polish embassy released a statement expressing shock and concern about some of the racist and xenophobic harassment against polish citizens and people of polish heritage here. some graffiti that was scrolled on walls of polish residences, insulting poles and some notes slipped under doorways telling poles to go home. kristen? >> important to highlight that angle as well. matt bradley in london. great reporting. thanks so much. former british prime minister tony blair will join the "morning joe" team to discuss the brexit vote. catch that conversation beginning at 6:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow right here on msnbc. digging out. survivors found after deadly flooding in west virginia. the help victims are getting and the struggle to restore public
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happening right now, people in west virginia dealing with a second week of rain. it adds insult to injury as residents work to assess damage. in all, 23 people died in last week's floods. hundreds of homes were destroyed. federal aid approved by president obama is beginning to flow in for those whose lives were washed away. we'll continue to track that story. but that does it for this hour of msnbc live. thanks for being with me. i'm kristen welker from cincinnati, ohio. "mtp daily" with chuck todd
starts right now. if it's monday, it's a surge of new info in our new poll. a majority of republicans preferred someone else as their nominee. how much of trump's recent troubles cost him. which issues are driving clinton and trump's numbers up n down? we'll find out. it's "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. welcome to "mtp daily." i'm peter alexander in for chuck todd. we've got brand-new numbers right now from our nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. let's get right to that, including something that might explain clinton's growing lead over donald trump. she now leads him by five points by our count among registered voters. among democrats, the majority of voters are on board with clinton. 52% say they're satisfied with their presumptive