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back from day one. my prediction, and i don't make many, but i think chris christie has the inside track at this point. thank you to you both. >> thank you. >> that's "all in" for this evening. happy canada day, i want to say thin thanks -- >> are you guys -- >> rachel maddow starts right now with joy reid in for rachel. good evening. >> since when did being an unprincipled scoundrel prevent someone from being a candidate for higher office? i'm joy reid filling in for rachel with a well deserved night off tonight. we have a very busy friday. usually days like this, slow news days, no particularly big news. not today. so we're going to begin by covering a lot of news tonight, including a conversation "the washington post" jonathan
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capehart who just interviewed loretta lynch and her conversation with bill clinton aboard her private plane at a phoenix airport earlier this week. there's new news tonight about who donald trump could pick about his vice presidential running mate. my bid is with newt gingrich, but there are other people in the mix. there's big movement on guns from a state that's getting it done when washington is getting it done when washington is decidedly not. but first, we begin with the ongoing hostage situation in dhaka, the capital of bangladesh. the sun is rising there, and the situation is still fluid and ongoing. it started this morning, about ten hours ago, at about 9:20 p.m., several gunmen stormed a cafe called holey artisan
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bakery. it's an area filled with embassies and consulates. it's popular with expats and diplomats. between 8 and 10, armed attackers charged into the restaurant, set of explosives and proceeded to take a number of hostages. we're hearing there are something like 40 hostages inside. but that is not a number that we can confirm at this hour. so far, we know that at least two police officers were killed during the stand-off with attackers. we understand that another 26 people were wounded by the explosions that were set off and the shrapnel. six of whom are in critical condition. late this afternoon, hours after the attack started, the isis news agency claimed that isis commandos are responsible for the ongoing hostage stand-off. the hostage situation is in its tenth hour as we speak. the situation, as we said, is live, is very much unfolding. armed paramilitary officers from
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bangladesh have surrounded the restaurant and are working on negotiating the release of the hostages. no attempts to do a forced rescue yet. in terms of americans on the ground, the state department has alerted u.s. citizens in bangladesh to shelter in place. the state department is saying they've accounted for 100% of u.s. service members, but they're still trying to account for all the private u.s. citizens in bangladesh. we know that isis has claimed responsibility for this ongoing attack in bangladesh, and presumably because they are isis, their goal is to grab the attention of the world media with a spectacular attack, which grabs the global media attention as they're getting now, and to terrorize the world. so in that sense, the attack has already been a huge success for them. but bangladesh is a country where 90% of the people are muslim. and it's recently seen a huge upsurge in isis-related violence. just this morning, isis claimed responsibility for the hacking death of a hindu priest in
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dhaka. three men with matcheties attacked and killed a priest as he was preparing for morning prayers. three weeks ago, a priest was attacked by three men. weeks after that, a christian man murdered on the street, isis claimed responsibility. at the end of april, isis hacked to death a hindu tailor. a week before that, it was a university professor, who was teaching english. he made his way to school, he was attacked and nearly beheaded. that was just this year. in november of last year, gunmen opened fire in a mosque in northern bangladesh, killing one during evening prayers. isis was behind it. last year in october, a japan man shot three times riding a rickshaw. isis claimed responsibility for that too. in september 2015, isis also claimed responsibility for a
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jogger in the capital quarter. immediately after the two attacks in bangladesh, the u.s. embassy stopped permitting its personnel and their families to be in public places until things cooled down, for fear of another isis attack. since last september, there have been 19 isis-related attacks in bangladesh. so tonight, the friday before the fourth of july, we have yet another attack that isis has claimed responsibility for, except this attack is ongoing. what we do know, there are dozens of people holed up in that restaurant at the mercy of armed attackers. we know this comes at the end of a week that started with an isis attack on the third largest airport in europe, the suicide bombing attack on the ataturk airport in istanbul, turkey, killing more than 40 people and injuring nearly 240. and it also comes on the heels of another spectacular style
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attack on the pulse nightclub, that left 49 people dead and 53 wounded. the worst mass shooting in u.s. history. all of those attacks happened during the muslim holy month of ramadan, during which isis called for more spectacular style attacks meant to terrorize. today is the last friday before the end of ramadan, and it ends the day after the july 4th holiday on tuesday evening. joining us now from bangladesh is asif. just after 7:00 a.m. local time. thank you for joining us. give us the latest on what's going on where you are. >> thank you. the situation is at the moment a bit unclear. there was a lull between midnight and about 3:00 a.m. it was very quiet, not much
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happening. around 3:53, we heard -- we were told that three shots rang out and members of the battalion pulled somebody out of the area, and we're told that he is a suspect and maybe one of the hostage-takers. since then, a lot has happened. about an hour ago, an adviser to the prime minister was quoted by reuters as saying that security forces have been negotiating with they're hoping to bring an end to this crisis. around the same time, about an hour ago, police on site, announced on microphones, that everyone who is not a security personnel, had to clear the site, and law enforcement, police officers, would have to put on bulletproof vests. about 6:15, maybe 45 minutes ago, the director of the
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battalion here said that they were ready to begin a drive, which means that they want to perhaps -- but we're still not sure whether they will do that, whether the negotiations failed, and what the timeline might be. >> and so if there are potentially plans to breach that compound, do you have any sense from security forces of how many people they believe are inside and whether there are injuries inside that building or people who might be under even sort of more threat in a breach were to occur? >> sure. i'm sorry to say that we don't know for sure. we've been at some distance from the actual site. so we're not actually sure what the situation is inside the compound. we don't know how many people may be injured. we're not even sure exactly how many people are being held
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hostage. we understand that from an earlier eyewitness who managed to escape, he said about 20 people, many of them foreigners. in fact, he said mostly foreigners, were being held inside. but we haven't been able to confirm that. >> thank you very much, asif, thank you for your time. >> joining me now, ayman moye heldin and malcolm nance. ayman, the significance of this attack coming so soon after the ataturk airport attack, and coming toward the end of ramadan, what do you think the significance is? >> the significance of the first part of that question, coming on the heels of the ataturk attack, it shows that the frequency of these attacks seems to be accelerating. the reach of isis, whether it's inspiring radical individuals like orlando, whether it's demonstrating its ability to infiltrate countries like
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turkey, or whether it's capable of organizing and creating an organization within bangladesh to carry out this attack, demonstrates that the organization has multi facets to it, certainly layers of complexity to it. the ability to cascade these attacks one after the other is going to be a major concern for law enforcement officials, because it's not yet clear obviously if the folks in bangladesh who saw this attack were inspired by what they saw in ataturk, but it also fits the profile of what isis has been calling for, the second part of your question, they want to see more attacks during the month of ramadan, as you mentioned, we're getting to the end of that month. so this has been a call they've put out for all of their followers and it certainly seems, whether they're individuals or affiliates or participants, they are heeding those calls. >> malcolm, the last two attacks we've seen, attacks on sections of either the airport or here in this international zone in bangladesh, that in theory would
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target foreign nationals, but they're also attacks that by their nature, wind up killing lots of muslims. how does isis square this idea of killing lots of muslims during ramadan? >> they don't square this at all. this isis doctrine over the last two years, and it's a relatively new doctrine of attacking during the holy month of ramadan, it's why you fast during the day and socialize at night with your family and friends, this is completely unislam-islamic. however, for them and their crews around the world, i believe ayman is right about one component in this. i think what's happening, they are inspiring each other, and these teams have been planning for some periods of months, they'd heeded the call to do something during ramadan, and they have this belief that the last ten days of ramadan, the
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holiest period, are when they should kill more people. they don't view muslims at all at some body that is exempt from their terrorist attacks. they are attacking western facilities and so is al qaeda throughout sub saharan africa, but killing muslims is on their book as a part of their cult belief. >> and to what extent now ayman is the secondary sort of goal of these attacks to sort of warn away western governments to cooperate in what has been an increasing military campaign with some success against isis. >> in these different attacks, you're seeing different motivation. bangladesh is hardly a participant in a country like syria or iraq. they're a non-player on the geopolitical level. they're not going after isis like for example turkey or france or even the united states. so there would be hard-pressed reason to think, why would they go after bangladesh? but the truth of the matter is,
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it's the fourth or fifth largest muslim country in the world, it's also a close neighbor of india. and there's a historic rivalry between pakistan, where extremists have existed for a long time like al qaeda, fighting against pakistan, and even in bangladesh, trying to get a foothold in that country to once again build up a part of the islamic state. the reason why i say that, the vision of the islamic state is to create a worldwide caliphate and their intention is to anywhere they can get their foot on soil and build a state or a province, part of the larger islamic state, they can do that. they're looking at countries with vulnerability, instability, poverty, a weak government, and they can attack that government, and they've put bangladesh in their sights for some time. in their last publication, in november of 2015, dabiq's magazine, their online propaganda magazine, had a section dedicated to putting a foothold in bangladesh. so they've had it in their sights for several months now.
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>> and malcolm, i'm wondering to what extent this signals weakness on the part of isis in the place they have used as their stronghold. because that's where western allies have been hitting them, in syria. does this signal on their part strength or does it signal a weakness in the place where they're based? >> really, we have been predicting in the intelligence community for some time that as isis central headquarters in raqqah, northern iraq, western iraq, starts to come under increased pressure, that the caliphate will start to collapse. and we're seeing signs of that. as a matter of fact, there's a new intelligence estimate that there are only 12,500 foreign fighters left within the caliphate central alone, and they're being attacked from four different directions on the compass head. so as their caliphate collapse, they're shifting to a new phase. i call it the ghost caliphate, where they're moving out and branching out to more ideological-based fighters.
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as a matter of fact, their future warrior, their best example will be the kind of person who carries out an attack in san bernardino or orlando. these organized terrorist cell attacks like we're seeing today is an example of where they have flexibility and where they can safely create a covert operational cell. but for the rest of the world, they fully intend to just have inspired people come up and start killing us wherever they find us. >> yeah, that is what people are most afraid of. ayman and malcolm, thank you both for being here. appreciate it. we'll continue to monitor the situation in bangladesh. there are also lots of political stories to get to tonight and that is next. oooh! [ brakes screech ] when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. excuse me, try this. but just one aleve can last 12 hours.
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at the very same time we were learning about the situation unfolding in bangladesh, donald trump was speaking to about 3,000 people gathered for the western conservative summit in denver, colorado. it was a speech that has largely
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been characterized as a prompter-free, primary-style trump approach. therefore there was naturally a weird, off-the-cuff moment. >> if turkey -- are you from turkey, sir? good, congratulations. i actually have a very nice job in turkey. he's saying, please mention turkey. okay. i think he's friend. are you friend or foe? huh? i think he's friend. >> so the gentleman interrupting trump's scream of consciousness is a turkish journalist living in denver. he said he wanted trump to answer a few questions about turkey, among them, one about the terrorist attack in istanbul earlier this week. trump did address that in his remarks, saying turkey could single handedly wipe isis off the map. this is not the first time donald trump has thrown out that question, friend or foe. but on this day, to this man, it
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of your tax money to get a hair cut. he ought to be more concerned trimming the deficit than his own hair. >> not even six months before the fake scandals were proliver ating. the story about bill clinton getting a hair cut dominated the news for days. it's kind of unbelievable, but also kind of understandable, right? it's the irresistible morality play. new president elected as a regular guy, gets drunk on his own power and forces us to wait on our flights while we gets a hair cut. the allegations turned out not to be true. it created no delays and didn't cost $200. but by the time the facts came to light, it was too late. and like most clinton scandals, even though there was blame to be parcelled out, you couldn't help wondering what was bill clinton thinking? how could he not see how bad
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this would look? fast forward 23 years and bill clinton has again triggered a fire storm. this time with loretta lynch, when their planes were parked at the same airport at the same time. bill clinton found out her plane was nearby and he wanted to say hi. after all, he appointed loretta lynch as u.s. attorney general in 1999. also it's a courtesy for former presidents and officials to greet each other when they run across each other at airports. according to accounts, the two of them chatted about his grandkids and their recent travels and the golf bill clinton had been playing, and they talked about that stuff for a whole 30 minutes. and i guess that would be fine if loretta lynch didn't oversee the fbi, which is currently investigating the e-mail practices of bill clinton's wife when she was secretary of state and may be interviewing hillary
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clinton in that investigation as soon as tomorrow. the hyperventilating came fast and furious. there were immediate allegations the investigation had been compromised. republicans in congress started calling for a special prosecutor. one reporter called the whole thing shocking, absolutely shocking. bill clinton was notoriously problematic for hillary clinton during her 2008 presidential run, saying intempered things, creating distractions. and he's not always been on target this cycle. having a shouting match with black protesters comes to mind. let's assume the meeting was just what they said it was, a purely social visit. still, once again, you find yourself wondering, what was bill clinton thinking? how could he not see how bad this would look? the man who was taken to the political wood shed over a frigging hair cut? loretta lynch has been upfront about the meeting. she said that she wouldn't do it again. she also said she would accept the recommendations of the fbi
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and prosecutors on what to do with the e-mails investigation. she will not be involved in the decision on how to move forward. and today she spoke at length for the first time about all of this, in an interview with "the washington post's" jonathan capehart. >> i do think that no matter how i viewed it, i understand how people view it. and i think that because of that, and because of the fact that it has now cast a shadow over how this case may be perceived, and no matter how it's resolved, it's important to talk about how it will be resolved. it's important to make it clear that that meeting with president clinton does not have a bearing on how this matter will be reviewed, resolved and accepted by me. because that is the question that it raises. >> that was loretta lynch, facing this thing head on. so is this a tempest in a tea pot like hairgate?
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joining us now, jonathan capehart, who interviewed loretta lynch today. congratulations on getting the interview of the day. i mean, great timing on your part. first of all, let's talk about that timing. you were scheduled to interview attorney general lynch anyway. were you surprised that she kept that date with you? >> right. this interview was scheduled as part of the ideas festival, about a month and a half ago. so it was on my calendar all along. and then, you know, tarmac-gate, if you want to call it that, blew up. last night i had one set of, you know, ideas in mind of how the interview would go. this morning, it was completely different. and i have to say, i'm not surprised that the attorney general went through with today's session. because as you said, she's been transparent and pretty up front from the very beginning. when this came to light, she did two press conferences. one in l.a., and one, i believe,
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in phoenix, when it first happened. so the fact that she sat down with me, and i want to make it clear, no preconditions. she sat down and waited for me to ask the question that the hundreds of people in the room and that the millions of americans who were watching at the same time wanted to know. >> and jonathan, you work in washington, obviously at "the washington post," you're familiar with these sort of interactions between powerful people. when you heard this story initially, did it strike you as bizarre, or out of the ordinary, that two, you know, obviously officials who know each other, one a former president of the united states, that's unusual to have a former president say, i'd like to say hello. but apart from that, did it strike you as something particularly unusual or scandalous? >> it struck me as unusual. one thing to keep in mind, remember, about a month ago, president clinton had a tarmac meeting with senator ted cruz. so this is not something that is
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unusual. but in this case, former president bill clinton, and the current sitting attorney general, loretta lynch, meeting on the tarmac, or running into each other on the tarmac, that is unusual. it is something that raised a lot of eyebrows. not just from people on the right, but also among democrats. we have to keep something in mind. one, hillary clinton and the e-mail situation is being investigated by the fbi. so that's an active investigation. two, the attorney general oversees the fbi. three, bill clinton is the husband of someone who could potentially be the subject of an fbi criminal probe, if they decide that's what needs to happen. so the idea that he would go onto the plane of the sitting attorney general, where there's an active investigation going on is what struck everybody as somewhat insane. how on earth could this happen
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from -- how could the former president allow himself to do that? how could the current sitting attorney general allow it to happen? but here in aspen, there are a lot of people who know president clinton, have dealings with president clinton, and no one here is surprised that president clinton just did what he did. >> and very quickly, jonathan, the 30 minutes is the thing that struck me as very eyebrow raising. what was her explanation as to why she spent 30 minutes talking to the former president? >> well, if you listen to the way the attorney general talks about the conversation that they had, there's a lot of president clinton talked about the grandkids, talked a lot about the grandkids. president clinton talked about his golf game, and we talked about our summer travels. president clinton talked about -- the impression i got, both from the sitdown in front of the audience at aspen, the
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sitdown i had with her on the record for ten minutes afterwards, and in those two press conferences that she had leading up to today, it is clear to me that the person doing most of the talking during those 30 minutes was president clinton. >> yeah. and i'm sure at this point, i'm sure she wishes she had just declined. jonathan capehart, thank you very much for your report riing this. appreciate it. >> thanks a lot. much more to come tonight, including what could be a pivotal moment for the donald trump campaign. we'll be right back. er. ♪ ♪ there is a time, for all my slumbers. ♪ one coat guaranteed marquee interior. behr's most advanced paint. get the best paints and stains for any budget and now save 10 or 40 bucks. only at the home depot. 80% of recurrent ischemic, strokes could be prevented.
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when you're interviewing for a job, it's all about turning negatives into positives. you know how they always ask you, what's your biggest weakness? and you say something like, i just care too much. well, case in point, newton, leroy gingrich, the former speaker of the house, has been transparently auditioning for the job of donald trump's running mate. this was donald trump a few months ago giving a foreign policy speech. watch. >> our embassies in kenya and tanzania and this was a horrible period of time for us, were attacked. >> okay, so donald trump clearly bungled the pronunciation of tanzania, his foreign policy speech. but job interview is about turning lemons into lemonades. and newt, he's from georgia, y'all, so he knows how to squeeze a lemon and add sugar. right after that speech, he tweeted. quote, washington elites mock
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so there are three prevailing theories as to how a presidential candidate picks their vp? you pick someone to excite, or from a state and area to help you win on election night, or someone to help you govern after the election. it's an honor, but it's also a strategic choice. that is, unless nobody wants the job. in which case, beggars can't be choosers. donald trump is struggling to get people to speak on his behalf at the republican convention. it's looking less and less like they'll be choosing from top
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tier republican talent and more like they'll be choosing whoever will actually take the job. at the moment, it appears three main contenders for the position are being, depending on who you believe, considered or vetted. the first is a man that we've seen spending a lot of time at donald trump's side, new jersey governor chris christie. governing experience and a tough prosecutorial background. on the other hand, he's chris christie. so there's bridgegate, terrible approval ratings. nobody in his own state wanted him to run for president, and new jersey's credit rating has been downgraded like nine times since he was elected, and he would make for a northeast heavy ticket. then indiana governor mike pence who brings conservative movement credibility. he's served as governor and congressman, plenty of experience and relationships on capitol hill. also nbc news has confirmed today that mike pence will be meeting with trump this weekend.
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on the other hand, pence is not exactly exciting and he's not well known, and the campaign doesn't have lots of money on hand to spend raising his name i.d. he's also in the middle of a campaign of his own, running for re-election as indiana's governor. technically he's not allowed to run for both positions. he'd have to choose. finally, there's the man that i believe donald trump has his eye on, former speaker of the house, newt gingrich, a man who gives him plenty of experience and knowledge of washington politics and policy, but who, despite that, has managed to maintain credibility with the outsider wing of the conservative base. you could make the argument that there's nobody in the world with more experience attacking and battling the clintons. he did, afterall, impeach president clinton. however, newt gingrich brings a boat load of baggage, including an ethics violation, documented infidelity and a history of comments that were at least,
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racially and culturally insensitive. and with three marriages of his own, that would bring their ticket total to six. there are still wild cards floating out there. governors rick scott and mary fallin. senators jeff sessions, joni ernst. even sarah palin. it would be great tv. joining us now to try and clear up a little bit of this haze is the national political correspondent for "the washington post" who has just written a piece detailing the state of the veep race. all right, karen, give us your best political reporting now on who donald trump's top pick is right now. who's the odds-on favorite? >> well, at this moment, and again at this moment is a very qualified way of describing things with donald trump -- everything we're hearing is that newt gingrich does seem to have the edge, that there are two leading candidates. number one being newt gingrich, number two being chris christie and then a constellation of six
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or eight others who are being looked at. but you're right, gingrich would bring a lot of things to the ticket that trump appears to be looking for. and the other qualification that people sometimes look for in a running mate is someone who reinforces their own message. i mean, that's what we saw with bill clinton and al gore. you know, two, young southerners who were a generational change. newt gingrich would be -- have both the governing experience as you said, and sort of the anti-establishment cred as well. >> yeah, he would be doubling down on the trump brand. i love fewer things more than being right. i hope we turn out to be right on there. let's talk about who donald trump is consulting with in making this pick. have you heard the scuttle butt that there's pushback from paul ryan world that they prefer they pick somebody to soften his edges, like susana martinez, or someone with a softer edge than
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newt gingrich, have you heard that? >> this pick is going to be made by a committee of one. it would be donald trump consulting donald trump. so i think that paul ryan's recommendations or anything coming right now from the establishment is, you know, not going to necessarily have much sway. >> and what about the chris christie question? because it does seem that he's raising his hand and shaking it around in the air, trying to make sure he gets the attention of the committee of one, donald trump. in your reporting, is there something about bridgegate, his record in new jersey, that is disqualifying him, and keeping him from getting from number two to number one? >> you know, i don't necessarily think that there is anything at this point that's disqualifying. but newt gingrich has -- i mean, donald trump has said that, you know, there's going to be a spot for chris christie in a donald trump administration. so, you know, it could be some other job he'd have him in mind
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for. >> and karen, what do you make of this theory and i'll just cop to it being my theory, that donald trump is looking for somebody who would sort of being willing to run washington, if he were to become bored being president, somebody who would do the work, while we could enjoy the ceremony? what do you make of that. >> -- what do you make of that? >> that's something you would get with newt gingrich, or somebody like that on the list. newt gingrich not only has command of the issues. he's gotten a national security clearance by having been on the defense science board. he knows how the gears grind on capitol hill. >> and karen, are there any other people that we've heard publicly mentioned, particularly the women on the list, like mary fallin or joni ernst, who you're hearing are not interested in being vetted for vp, as we've heard about condoleezza rice? >> you would have to ask -- no,
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i'm not hearing it. but you'd have to ask, what would you be giving up in terms of future credibilities and options by being on this ticket if it goes down in spectacular fashion in the fall, which is a real possibility in the minds of republicans? for newt gingrich, it's a new-lose proposition. it would increase his speaking fees and demand in republican circles. but for somebody who might be looking at a spot on another ticket further in the future, this is a real risk. >> yeah, and i think you've nailed it on the speaking fees, the book deals, rachel has talked about that up side to being a part of this process. really quickly, slip over to the democrats. what do you make of the cane versus warren back and forth? is there anybody that you can report as an advantage on the democratic side? >> well, i sort of subscribe to the conventional wisdom here, that tim cane would be a better fit for the innate caution that we know hillary clinton to have.
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virginia is a very crucial state. and you know, two women on a ticket would be very exciting, but her problem right now is winning over white guys. so that would also seem to argue for tim cane. plus, for all the chemistry we saw in ohio, there's not a lot -- a very high comfort level between these two women personally. >> all right, we'll see how that shakes out. you and i, we'll be split. i think i'm on team warren, thinking she might have an edge, but i'll divert to your expertise. karen tumulty, thanks so much. >> thank you. much more to come. including the latest example of the difference between red and blue states. we'll be right back. ha, no, i switched to geico and got more. more? 24/7 access online, on the phone or with the geico app. that is more. go get some mud...
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this week the rnc unvailed the stage design. it's very exciting. they invited the pretss, they explained their line of thinking. the big reveal or rather the tieny reveal. rnc showing off the model on what the stage will look like. the stage has been a very important aspect of the planning. he told the "new york times" he threw out earlier times, i didn't like the shape, didn't have the drama. unfortunately for donald trump, the drama is turning up in other
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ways on a couple of different fronts. the first is when it comes to the actual content. the growing list of republicans who are not expected to participate. including john kasich. donald trump said he will not ask him to speak unless he endorses trump. in terms of who is being asked to speak, that's a whole other cast of characters, he tells the "new york times" he's thinking about asking tennis star serena williams and the president of the ultimate fighting championship, dana white. former chicago bears' coach mike said he too was asked but he turned him down. earlier this week it was reported that mike tyson was on the speaker short list, report that both donald trump and mike tyson have denied. ben carson and members of donald trump's own family, who do not know of anyone confirmed to speak at the convention, which could be exciting or disastrous.
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the other mess on the rnc in donald trump's hands is what is happening outside the actual convention. 50,000 people are expected to flood into cleveland. among them not only politicians and delegates and if donald trump gets his way, some professional athletes, protesters in addition to the antiprotesters, members are expected to make an appearance, as well as other members of the same white supremacist group that wreaked havoc in sacramento over the weekend. the police department has released a blueprint to ensure piece in and around the convention. having twice been probed for problematic policing. and with the tamir rice case still looming in the minds of many black clevelanders. all the demonstrators and white supremist alike are probably going to at some point end up in the same area. all of that on top of the fact
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it's hard to believe chris rock made this argument nearly 20 years ago because it still sounds so painfully funny and urgent and true. >> you don't need no gun control, you know what you need, we need some bullet control. we need to -- we need to control the bullets, that's right. i think all bullets should cost # $5,000. $5,000 for a bullet. you now why, because if a bullet
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cost $5,000, there will be no more innocent bystanders. yeah. >> bullet control. yeah chris rock proposed regulating ammunition back in 1999, a time when the nation was still reeling from school shootings like column bi-- columbine and neighborhood violence and the associated gang violence. against that backdrop, he made his funny yet serious proposal, maybe instead of gun control we should try bullet control. now, in the very blue state of california, they are about to do just that. california governor jerry brown today signed into law half a dozen new bills dealing with fire arms. some of these new laws are controls on guns. the governor signed new limits on assault weapons. he signed a new ban on high capacity magazines, but also the california governor signed, what i think chris rock would clearly
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recognize as bullet control. california will now require a background check to buy ammunition and an i.d. and the state will keep a database of ammunition sales. it's worth noting they vetoed five new gun reforms sent to him by the democratic control legislature. according to his statements he rejected bills for being too vague or imposing to big a burden on lawful gun owners or simply because he does not think the bills would work to reduce gun violence. but jerry brown signed that sweeping measure for bullet control. bullet control will now be the law of the land in california. so once, again, states, particularly blue states, are able to pass meaningful gun reform to try and protect their citizens from on-going gun violence. this, while the united states congress has done precisely nothing. however, after house democrat
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staged a sit in last week. republican speaker paul ryan said he will allow a gun on gun reform. democrats are expecting the bill to be a narrower version of the measure okayed by the nra. and so, whether congress does anything about gun violence is still an open question. in terms of how much republicans are willing to do in congress and how much democrats will be willing to sign on for in exchange for their support. we'll start getting answers next week when the house returns to work. but at least for tonight, in california, at least for this one night, chris rock wins. >> you don't need no gun control, you know what you need, we need some bullet control. we need to -- we need to control the bullets. >> amen. that does it for tonight. i will see you again in just a few hours on my show am joy. we'll have a republican cumming,
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we'll ask him about gun control, that is tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern. now, it is time for the last word, amon is in for lauren tonight. >> thank you very much. it is going to be a busy night, not only here in new york but also in bangladesh. it is saturday morning there, nearly since this sooez essentially began. here is the latest on what's taken place. up to nine gunmen have been holding dozens of people inside. at least 35 people are still captive inside. the restaurant, as we know it, popular, with westerners. it is located in the city's gold shine neighborhood and up scale area, home to many of the city's embassies. there are conflicting reports about whether police have been able to speak to the attackers. previous reports said the attacker were not responding to police. an advisor for bangladesh said security forces are trying to negotiate an endo


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