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it's 10% of iceland went to france to watch the soccer tournament, looks like the other 90% turned up there. by far the next thing in the world today. that does it for us tonight, we'll see you again tomorrow, now it's time for the last word lawrence. >> hey, steve, thank you very much. president obama hit the campaign trail today with hillary clinton, but the most important help that hillary clinton got today actually was from bill clinton. and it was something he did 15 years ago. >> there is evidence that they
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were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information. >> we're not going to press charges. it's really amazing. >> paul ryan said in part that the fbi's announcement "defies explanation". >> people had been convicted for far less. >> her judgment is horrible. >> the other side has got nothing to offer you. >> the story of america, is story of hard fought, hard fought progress. >> are you fired um? >> yes. >> we are fired up. >> hillary got me fired up. >> ready to go and ready to win this election. >> i'm here today because i believe in hillary clinton. >> this is the last word on
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campaign 2016. >> it was saved today by president bill clinton. this is not the conspiracy theory version that you can hear from donald trump. >> from bill clinton going to the plane, just happened to be there, just happened to be there. i wonder how long he waited, but for bill clinton to go to the plan and then what happened today, it turned out that we're not going to press charges. it's really amazing. >> no one should fall for the trump conspiracy theory that bill clinton's meeting at the arizona airport meant that the fix was in to not charge hillary clinton with a crime over her use of e-mail at the state department, especially when the attorney general made it clear that she was going to accept the recommendations of the fbi. bill clinton saved the clinton
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campaign today by a legal precedent. but president clinton helped establish on his last day in the presidency. now the fbi director mentioned bill clinton today. he did not mention bill clinton today, but he did say this. >> in looking back at our investigations into the mishandling and of information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. >> clearly intentional and misclassified information or vast quantities of information, exposed in such as a way as to score an inference of intentional misconduct, or indications of disloyalty to the united states or efforts to obstruct justice. we do not see those things here.
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>> so the fbi director said today he was not recommending prosecution because there is just no precedence for it in a case like this, none. not one. but there would have been exactly one precedence for a prosecution like this, but bill clinton eliminated the possibility of that precedence on his very last day in the white house 15 and a half years ago. there was, of course, no way for them to know what he did that day would preserve the possibility of another. in fact, what bill clinton did that day was the most seriously scandal louse moment. sex with an intern and perjury about sex with an intent were scandalous, but it's hard to find anything serious in that scandal, anything that says, this is why that guy shouldn't be president or as house republican saw it at that time,
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this is why the president must be impeached and removed from office. what he did in his last day in office was considered scandalous by democrats and republicans and virtually 100% of the political news media, what he did involved his official duties, and more important it involved the most sacred power, the only power that cannot be overruled legislative by the congress or overruled by the supreme court. it's the president's one absolute power granted in the constitution right, the power to pardon. it's hard, if not impossible for the out going president to compete with the incoming president for headlines the day after inauguration, bill clinton managed to do it in january of 2001 by issuing 140 pardons on his last morning in the white house. some of them were good pardons, some of them were bad pardons and some of them were very bad pardons. he pardoned his brother roger which pleaded guilty.
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he pardoned clients of hillary clinton's brother, who was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for his services in securing those pardons. he pardon mark rich, who was then hiding out in switzerland. it turns out the most important pardon bill clinton issued was john deutch, the same who he appointed director of cia five years earlier, after he left the cia, they discovered that his home computer and laptop contained classified material. no one was quite sure what to make of that at the time. it didn't seem like a big deal to me at that time, which was a long time ago. john deutsch was probably the first cia director afterto send or receive an e-mail.
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it was the dawn of e-mail use in government in the mid 1990s. in one report on the case, the washington post described john deutsch's problem as "keeping secrets on his unsecured home computers, which were linked to the internet." most home computers were not even linked to the internet back then that's how long ago this was. the pardon was not universally regarded as one of the scandalous pardons. he was an mit professor who served who was generally regarded as an well intentioned good guy. it appeared that he hit a trip wire that no one realized was there legally, what does the age of the home computer mean to the proper custody of classified material. so it was easy to feel sorry for
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john deutsch at the time when most of us had never given a thought to those issues, the issues involving e-mail that got him into legal trouble. and he most definitely was in legal trouble. four days after president clinton pardoned john deutsch, the washington post reported that the day before the was issued. he had agreed to plead guilty to the misdemeanor of mishandled government secrets. but because the president had pardoned john deutsch, the justice department had to drop the case immediately. that is how close john deutsch came to being prosecuted. one day, it was really a matter of hours, inauguration day was on a saturday that year. bill clinton's pardons were issued on that saturday morning. the washington post reported that john deutsch actually signed a plea bargain agreement friday afternoon, but it was too late to get it filed in federal court that day.
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if john deutsch had just signed that plea bargain agreement an hour earlier, maybe a couple of hours earlier, it would have been filed in court and cia director would have been beneficially charged with mishandling government secrets. and today, the fbi director would not have been able to say that there was no precedence for prosecution in a case like this. the clinton pardon scandal ruined hillary clinton's first days for weeks the only thing that reporters wanted to talk with new york's junior senator about, were the pardons that her husband issued and the pardons that her brother helped secure. >> there's no connection whatsoever. the white house years, the administration of my husband are over and i'm going to be focused
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solely on the job that i can do to help new york. >> no one was asking her about the pardon of john deutsch, they were all about her brother and mark rich whose pardon had the appearance of being bought and paid for with campaign contributions the clinton pardon scandals is one of washington's forgotten scandals. although it is not one they claim -- it's not one that they can claim as an invention of right wing opponents you'll certainly be getting more reminders of it in the trump campaign attack ads if the trump campaign can ever afford. those 140 pardons that bill clinton gave, those 140 pardons gave hillary clinton a very rough start with the news media as a freshman senator, but one of those pardons may have saved
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her today from facing the same charge, john deutsch was willing to plead guilty to. >> in looking back we cannot find a case that would bringing criminal charges on these facts. >> then today the fbi director would have had to say we can find only one case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts then what, would history have taken a big turn today. would hillary clinton have faced handling a misdemeanor charge and deliver us a trump presidency, we'll never know.
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history did not take that big turn today. hillary clinton stayed on track for the democratic presidential nomination and with president obama at her side on the campaign trail and she may well be on track to making history the way she wants to make history. and that may now be thanks to the day of the clintons had wanted us all to forgot and most of american and most of news media has forgotten, pardon day, that last day. those last hours in the white house when bill clinton used his absolute power to pardon for some of the most scandalous pardons in presidential history, as well as a pardon that seemed, to many, reasonable and understandable at the time, the pardon of an apparently dedicated and will intentioned man who made a mistake, the pardon of john deutsch, the pardon that may have saved the clinton campaign today.
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joining us now, senior fellow and government studies at the british institution editor and chief, david clinton washington bureau chief mother jones and msnbc political analysts. there's a lot of comparisons people have been drawing and i think it's clear what the differences are there. david petraeus was conscience of the stuff he was handing over to a woman who was involved with romantically writing a book. they have audiotape of them talking about this, but this john deutsch case seems to be the closest thing to a precedence for what hillary clinton seems to have been involved in, john deutsch, in his mind, innocently having this stuff at home and going right up to the brink of prosecution saved only by that pardon. >> so i -- it has been a long time since i've had cause to look at the john deutsch case
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and i think because, as you point out, he was pardoned actually before the allegations were really filed against him, i don't think we know precisely what the allegations, the justice department and the fbi were prepared to make against him, so i'm not sure whether it would have been, as you say, quite as -- quite the precedence that you describe it as. that said, i think director coneny is clearly correct that there isn't a history of prosecuting, whether that case would have been such a history, there isn't a history of prosecuting people who merely mishandled classified information as opposed who steal it, leak it, give it to foreign governments or sort of do something malicious or obstruct investigations into what happened to it. . i think, you know, it is true that the language of the law is a little bit -- a bit more
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capacious than the history of the -- of prosecution would suggest. but i think director coneny is correctly describing a degree of restraint in federal practice that indicting hillary clinton under these facts would have been a departure from. that said, the allegations that he made against her today and in his findings, are, i think, politically extremely damaging and, you know, and i think he's given -- he's made a series of findings that constitute a set of republican talking points from now until election day. and i've got to say that's kind of an unforced error on her part. i think, you know, she kind of heard that one. >> director did say that one of the things they investigated was the misdemeanor of knowingly removing classified information from appropriate systems and
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storage facilities. he mentioned that as the final eye them this what they investigated and then he never mentioned it again. but that is exactly what the washington post reported at the time john deutsch had signed a plea agreement for it, that misdemeanor. and were it not for the pardon, there would have been that precedent sitting there today in that one case over that misdemeanor slchlt. >> -- >> i think there may be a apples/orange distinction here. when you work in the government and we handle classified information, you're often briefed again and again and again on the proper line of classified information. one computers, two computers whether you take stuff out or whether you leave it on your desk, put it in the safe at night. and you're told basically what
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the protocols are and if you violate that, then you can be in trouble. i'm guessing that's what kind of happened in the deutsch case, we don't have the details it's just a guess. the problem here with the hillary clinton case is that they just kind of went off the reservation. they went off book. and they were, you know, permitted, in a way, to do that, but also violated guidelines and regulations and not laws. so the whole enterprise was, in a way, at least against the philosophy and the protocols and the, you know, the regimens that people are suppose to follow. but she says that she got permission to do it this way. so then investigating that on whether there was a violation, seems to me to be investigating someone speaking in a different language for of violation of grammar. she was just, literally, in a different world in terms of the handling of information. and i think that was probably
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very perplexing to the legal experts at the fbi who had a look at the facts that they established and the precedent of prosecutions in the past and come up with some determination. i mean, it was wrong to do this at the beginning, but as we know in washington, not everything wrong is illegal. >> the inspector general, which referred this case to the fbi for their section of the investigation, inspector general's own investigation was exclusively about the federal records act and bur rat cli how do they comply and the inspector general said specifically that they were in violation of the federal records act, but there are no post employment criminal remedies for that, all the remedies, all the penalties as it were for violating that are on the job penalties, you know, you can get disciplined on the job suspend and something like that in some sort of way. that's the part that people always lose the distinction of their -- there two components of this.
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inspector general dealt with and then this classified material was exclusively the jurisdiction. >> correct. so, look, think about it this way, one is, did this comply with state department rules, hillary clinton says she followed the rules, they were -- they didn't require her to not have a server so she did. everybody else seems to say, who's looked at the law and that carefully seems to say she didn't really ask whether it followed the rules and if she had asked she would have been told no. i'm fairly confident as the losing side of that argument, that is not a criminal statute and it's a not something that's going to cause her serious legal problems as opposed to political problems now. the fbi matter was much more serious because the classified information laws are criminal statutes and she seems to have dodged a bullet here, i think,
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correctly, but there's going to be some political damage for this. i think donald trump will be talking about this until november. >> yes. he will. thank you very much for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up. an employee newspaper here in new york which is owned by donald trump's son-in-law wrote an open letter to her boss, donald trump's son-in-law, who was a very brave moment that you don't see very much of in journalism. she'll join us, dana schwartz will join us coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪
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coming up, dana schwartz did a very brave thing today. she confronted her boss about donald trump, her boss happens to be donald trump's son-in-law. >> beyond the talk. beyond it all. it's the full story. to no beyond, you have to go beyond. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns
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she said today we may consider the attorney general to go forward, that's like a bribe, isn't it? the attorney general saying there if i get hillary off the hook, i'll have four more years or eight more years, but if she loses i'm out of a job, it's a bribe. it's a disgrace. it's a grace she's laughing at the stupidity of our system. she's laughing and so is her husband bill. >> joining us now rebirth of hillary clinton, also brieting a fourth coming book on the 2016 presidential campaign. jonathan, what a fun book that's going to be so hillary clinton at least she has the punctuation mark. it's over. donald trump, apparently, will never stop speaking. it's good for hillary clinton she's not being prosecuted.
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e i think at some level she's laughing at donald trump a little bit. she knows these conspiracy theories have a tendency to make him sound a little bit crazy. she's going after the decision of the fbi director, not to recommend prosecution, he's going after somebody who is well recorded on both sides of the aisle in washington, d.c. and basically saying that he's part of a corruption scheme that includes him, that includes the president, that includes loretta lynch, i mean, at some point it's pretty ridiculous, when you hear things like hillary clinton and i thought the same thing at some level that trump did when i first heard it, she's talking about lretta lynch may continue have to job, then i thought to myself, donald trump is going to
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go on them. >> nothing i sent was marked "classified" or that i received was marked "classified". >> from the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the state department in 2014, 110 e-mails in 52-e-mail changes have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. >> we turned over everything that was work related, every single thing. >> the fbi also discovered several thousand work related e-mails that were not among the group of 30 e-mails returned by secretary clinton to state in 2014. i take classified information seriously. >> although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws
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intended for violating classified information. there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information. >> jonathan, within the clinton campaign, how was the stock price of that staff members of the state department through the fbi today called extremely careless. you have general mills, you have these people who were involved in this on going e-mail situation. >> well, in the intense loyalty world of hillary land, i think their stock is at least as high as it was before, if not higher. the value placed on loyalty is so incredible high. >> wait a minute. this is the staff that never said to the secretary of state, we can't do this, this violates the federal records act, this could trigger an fbi investigation, that staff is suppose to anticipate exactly
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those negative possibilities. >> and what -- this is a huge problem, i agree with you. the e-mail scandal in and of itself. if you look at the incredible audacity of creating the system outside the government system of continuing to have an operated, having none of these staffers questioned, to not say, wait a second, this is the way you're suppose to be doing, perhaps having set up the system in the first place, all of that what would look at the clinton operation and say this is a problem. this is a problem for the way that she conducts her operation. and so, i agree with you on that, it's a terrible situation. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> take care. >> up next, in the war room, hillary clinton's new big campaign asset, on the trail with president obama. we do everything big... and this month, we mean big... we've never had sirloins this big, before.
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i'm here today because i believe in hillary clinton and i want you to help elect her to be the next president of the united states of america. that's why i'm here. there has never been any man or woman more qualified for this office than hillary clinton. ever. i have run my last campaign and i couldn't be proud of the things we've come together. but i'm ready to pass the baton.
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and i know that hillary clinton is going to take it. and i know she can run that race our stret ji tonight. global strategy group and one of the priorities that supports hillary clinton, former national press secretary for the democratic committee for president obama's 2008 campaign. jeffrey, the president looked so eager. >> pretty good. >> to get out there and in fine form as they say, as a campaigner. >> he said one mistruth. he said he's run campaign, he's got one more in him. he's a tremendous asset. this is a guy who right now his numbers are at a high, he is doing incredibly well. he is a desired spokesperson on the trail and i think he's a huge asset for hillary.
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>> let's listen to what he said about hillary clinton as secretary of state. this can be interpreted as close as we can today to a response about this e-mail situation. >> she was a great secretary of state. and by the way, that's not just my opinion, that was the view of the american people on appointments throughout the time she was serving as secretary of state. it wasn't long ago, it's funny how that happens. everybody thought she was doing a great job. it's funny how the filter changes a little bit. >> that seems like what we're going to be hearing from the president and it's hard for me to imagine what they would say out there together about this e-mail thing.
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i don't think he has to address it at all or i don't think he can. more importantly, to put a finer point on what jeffrey is saying, you know, it's not that he's popular, he's popular with the right people. his numbers have been by increased in popularity with hispanics, 18 and 29 and independence, that's exactly who hillary clinton needs. >> let's listen to what donald trump said about president donald -- president obama campaigning for hillary. >> he should be working on isis where the threat is getting worse and worse. he should be working on trade. he should be working on the borders. >> jeffrey, that's not going to keep president obama home. >> look, we want him to keep speaking as much as humanly possible, lawrence, every time that man seems to open his mouth, it gets better.
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>> that seemed like for him and for his supporters a pretty effective response. >> oh, yeah. >> you always get to say back at the white house working, whenever they're on the golf course, you should say they be back there. >> look how good that did, right. i mean, look at -- that's a great speech, but it's not really speaking first right of voters it's not the thing. he's a limited person and his speech just sort of gets him in trouble, that's what today is about. and you saw it multiple times today. >> let's listen more to what president obama said to. >> nobody fully understands the challenges of a president until you actually sit at that desk. everybody has got an opinion. but nobody knows the job until you're sitting behind the desk. everybody can tweet, but nobody actually knows what it takes to
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do the job until you sat behind the desk. i mean, sasha tweets, but she doesn't think that there by should be sitting behind the desk. >> pushing the qualifications of his candidate, and it's the kind of argument to let's get something new in there. >> well, i think, offer as couple of things to secretary clinton. one, is, i think he cannot take on donald trump and be that sort of rhetorical sparring partner and not just with trump, but surgically dismantle him and you sell that today, and sell that as far back as the correspondence that are in 2012. he also is very good at the big picture. bill clinton can take policy and make it relatable to people like he did in that 2012 convention speech for the president.
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barack obama takes the big picture and makes it relatlefor election is going to be, it's going to be a big picture. >> real war room veterans, jeffrey polack, thank you both. donald trump's vice presidential election. someone who had a chat with donald trump on the plane the other day, says the short list now has only two names on it. trolling for a gig with braindrone? can't blame you. it's a drone you control with your brain, which controls your thumbs, which control this joystick. no, i'm actually over at the ge booth. we're creating the operating system for industry. it's called predix. it's gonna change the way the world works. ok, i'm telling my brain to tell the drone to get you a copy of my resume. umm, maybe keep your hands on the controller. look out!! ohhhhhhhhhh... you know what, i'm just gonna email it to you. yeah that's probably safer. ok, cool.
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a great friend of mine, somebody respected by everybody, senator, bob, come on up, bob, come on up. >> the reason you love him so much is because he loves you. he loves you and he wants the best for you, the president -- the republican nominee for president, donald trump. >> nbc news has confirmed that
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senator bob corker has submitted vetting material and going through all the steps required from also met this weekend with indiana governor, iowa senator joany and their families. joining us now radio host and editor in chief of wisconsin. charlie, i was in boston this morning and so i read how we call on the boston harold, and talk show host, and he says on the plane with donald trump the other day with a conversation, it sounded to him like the short list now was really only senator and governor mike pence and when he would mention other names, trump would say why he didn't need them. but trump kept mentioning earnst and mike pence, what do you think? >> i don't think this is going to be a game changer because donald trump is the game, right? the problem he's got it was different with other candidates, he has to find somebody who will normalize his campaign which has
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been abnormal, he's got select for a small number of people who want to associate themselves with donald trump. in order to be the vice presidential nominee for donald trump, as we've seen with chris christie, you have to be a bottle washer, you have to be a yes man, you have to be willing to go out there on daily basis and defend the various gaps. i think the names are very interesting. joany is attractive politician, i think, however, extremely inexperienced, but the year in which the experience is not valued, maybe that's not a negative. mike pence is a solid governor of indiana faced with a tough election fight relatively colorless. if you asked me to bet five bucks, i would bet on somebody like jeff sessions, we'll find out who can predict what donald trump is going to do in this situation. >> it's an interesting calculation, charlie, i have thought that serious people would never want it. as i stair at the corker thing, i'm starting to wonder, does bob corker think the good thing about it it's easy to look
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better than donald trump, and the vice president slot can position you four years later to be in a pretty good position, assuming your candidate loses, you know, in a pretty good position, you know, to challenge hillary clinton? >> that would be if this was a conventional and conventional campaign and it is not decidedly not a conventional year. ask yourself, has there anyone been associated with donald trump who comes outlooking better, that's what i think the candidates have to ask themselves, do they have a greater level of respect and self respect. i mean, look at that picture of chris christie standing behind and realize that's going to be your life from now on. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> coming up. have you ever publicly confronted your boss, dana schwartz did that today and her boss is donald trump's son-in-law.
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here is how it looked today on the campaign trail. >> we are expressing that no charges are appropriate in this case. >> no criminal charges for hillary clinton. >> this clears her of the legal hurdle, but the political one remains. >> it still suggests that she showed carelessness. >> everyone has been skeptical across the board. >> donald trump already tweeting his response. >> the general is rigged general patraeus got into trouble for far less. very very unfair, as usual bad judgment. >> sasha tweets. >> there is no single issue that is overshadowed the clinton campaign as much as this e-mail controversy. >> i tried to get a word with her about this after the event, she steered clear. >> north carolina ep center today for politics. >> she can't over state the optics of today. >> president obama traveling on air force one to north carolina later today to be the campaigner
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and chief for hillary clinton. >> hello, charlotte. >> president obama is a great surrogate for clinton. >> the bottom line is i know hillary can do the job. >> the judgment is horrible. look at her judgment on e-mails, who would do it. >> we're going to build on the vision for america. president obama has always championed. >> the last thing we need is an obama clinton and the white house. >> no no no no, hold on a second, i was waiting for this opportunity. don't boo, vote. i love that my shop is part of the morning ritual around here.
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dana schwartz risked her job today in an open letter to her boss which happens to be donald trump's son-in-law. donald schwartz will get tonight's last word, next.
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confront her boss in her open letter to jared kushner she said this, i'm asking you, how do you allow this? when you stand silent and smiling in the background, his jewish son-in-law, you're giving his most hateful supporters, joining us now, exclusive last word, dana schwartz, writer for the observer. dana, this was an extraordinary thing to read and you -- what struck you about it right away was wow, you didn't have to do this, i mean, no one has to do it. but you're the arts and culture writer. politics is not your place at the observer and it was so perfectly phrased throughout in the political points made so perfectly. how long were you thinking about doing this, is this like a last
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straw thing with that tweet. >> well, the tweet was one thing and then the response from his supporters really clarified how horrific this campaign has been in my mind. i mean, i woke with many americans on july second when he tweeted that original image, sort of awe struck that a major political party candidate could get away with such blatant antise mettic imagery, when i tweeted about all wearing make america great ask. they're revoking the holocaust and of it donald trump pushing the on button, horrific and blatant antisentism, the fact that donald trump then took back the tweet and blamed it on the
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media being over sensitive instead of guess zif antese mattic for reading too much into it, that was the last draw to me. >> david duke tweeted his support for the tweet and kind of, we get it and know what you're trying to tell us donald. >> whatever donald is saying, it's a wink and nod to his white supremist supporters, he may say it's a sheriff's star. but to people like david duke and his kin, they're not seeing it as a sheriff's star. >> what do you say to people, of course donald trump couldn't possibly traffic antise mittism. he has a jewish son-in-law. >> it's like saying someone can't be sexist because they're kind to their mother. i think what he's doing and standing silent and idly by while so many antisemitic and donald trump's name is unforgivable. whether or not he's antese mettic, he might be a wonderful person and i've never met him. he's willing to cork those
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voters and send them these blatant winks in order to get their support. that's what i find so unnerving. >> your boss, owner of the observer, is your response today to what you have written and he said the suggestion that he may be intolerant is not reflective of the donald trump that i know. have you heard from jaredkushner personally. >> not personally. >> he didn't touch upon the issue i had in my article, which donald trump may be a tolerant person as an individual, but his policies and message he's putting out are, for whatever reason, play dumb all you want, they're attracting horribly antisemitic people. >> what are the reaction from work? >> it was incredibly supportable. i feel lucky to work at a place
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where they let me publish this piece. >> it must be hard, when you and your colleagues there must have all sorts of angst about them. >> you know, the thing is until now i have been culture writer and i have been focusing. i haven't had to write about donald trump. but for me, so many of the antisemitic were coming at -- attacks were coming at me personally, i felt it was necessary to use my position as an employee of jaredkushner to speak up. >> would it be interesting to see what happens, i fear for your job if you don't. do you fear for you job tonight? >> well, i did ask editor and chief whether i could write an article about the antisemitic responses i get to what i tweet about donald trump and he gave
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me the go obama trumps e-mail-gate. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm joy reid in for chris matthews. hillary clinton finally got the big moment she's been waiting for. campaigning for the first time with president obama this afternoon. the two even arrived in north carolina together on board air force one. president obam

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