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hello, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it is approaching noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west, and here's what's happening right now. police in st. paul, minnesota, say they arrested 102 people last night during a massive protest which shut down the interstate for nearly seven hours. 21 police officers were injured when protesters threw rocks, bottles and even a molotov cocktail at them. now, this demonstration was one of at least a dozen which took place throughout the country last night, as you can see for yourselves right here, this all in reaction to the police killings of two black men earlier this week. dallas police chief david brown is revealing some disturbing, new details today about micah johnson, of course, the man who gunned down five police officers late thursday night. >> he wrote some lettering in blood on the walls, which leads us to believe he was wounded. where we detonated the device to end the standoff, there was more
lettering written in his own blood. >> what did he write? >> and we are trying to decipher that, but he wrote the letters "rb." >> rb? >> rb, yeah. so, we're trying to figure out through looking at things in his home what those initials mean. >> now, chief brown added that he stands by the decision to target the shooter with an explosives-bearing robot, and that he'd "do it all over again." in spain this morning, president obama warned against judging all police officers by the actions of a few. >> if we paint police in broad brush without recognizing that the vast majority of police officers are doing a really good job and are trying to protect people and do so fairly and without racial bias, if our
rhetoric does not recognize that, then we're going to lose allies in the reform cause. >> we are glad for some happier news to report. the third dallas transit officer wounded in thursday's attack has just been released from the hospital. misty mcbride has been with d.a.r.t. since 2010 and has a 10-year-old daughter at home. jacob rascon is joining from us dallas, a city under heightened alert. also new, insight about the gunman following the attack in dallas. with a good day to you, what more do we know? >> reporter: that's right, they have a lot to look through, of course. as we were standing outside of the gunman's home when the agents and detectives were going in and out, they brought bags of evidence. we know that among the things they found, bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition, and a journal. and they've been going through that journal as well, scouring it, looking for any more clues. of course, we know from police a
little about his motive because of what he told police during negotiations there. also this morning, the police chief, in fact, reiterated that they are still wondering and still pursuing to see whether there were any co-conspirators. they want to be confident that they have everybody. here's what the chief said. >> we still haven't ruled out, jay, whether or not others were complicit. and it's just, you know, the way we do things. we want to make sure we follow every lead and make sure we don't miss any pieces of evidence that might lead to other things that we don't know yet. >> reporter: so, we also know a little bit more about his military record. as we've reported before, he was a six-year army reservist. we know that there were some allegations against him while he was doing one of his tours in afghanistan, but no formal charge was ever brought against him. now, in addition, i want to leave you with this. we're standing in front of the southwest division of the dallas
police department. we're about 20 minutes away from downtown, and we're here because we learned from one of the detectives that six of the twelve officers who were either hurt or killed are from this division. in fact, we've learned the three names of those officers who are from this division who were killed, they are lauren aarons, michael krol and patrick zamarippa. so, this division probably more than others is hurting more than others. and inside there is a vast memorial, of course, with a lot of signs and flowers and candles. and as one person put it, it is very somber inside. alex? >> jacob rascon, very somber, indeed. thank you for that. the body of one of five officers killed in app the ambush thursday has been escorted to a funeral home. 43-year-old brent thompson was the first officer in the 27-year history of that department to be killed in the line of duty. nbc's tammy litener is joining
me now from dallas. tammy, we have these seven officers also wounded and hospitalized. just getting that good news about the one, ms. mcbride from d.a.r.t. she has just been released. can you confirm that? >> reporter: alex, that's right. we do have good news today, misty mcbride has been released from the hospital. she's a d.a.r.t. officer, which stands for dallas area rapid transit. she was released last night. she's a veteran officer, been with the department about five years. the other two d.a.r.t. officers that were released are omar cannon and jesus retana. but there are still some dallas police officers there and being treated. now, we had the chance yesterday to speak with jaime castro, a dallas police officer, a veteran officer who's trained many of the officers on the department, and he had also trained some of the officers that were injured. he described for us the moment that he found out that one of his very good friends, loren
aarons was shot. >> he was the big guy. he was the one that could be defused. it was like, here comes this guy, you might want to calm down. and you were like, okay, i'm good, i'm good. he was a diffuser and he could handle the situation. i was like, it can't be him. they told me he was in surgery, so we went upstairs, made sure there were officers there, as close as we could be to the surgery room. >> right. >> and then from there, you know, just obviously, we had to wait on his wife and things went, you know, downhill from there. >> and he passed away? >> he passed away. >> reporter: obviously, very, very difficult for jaime to talk about his friend who has just passed away. he did share with me one story that when he was training jaime some years ago, they were hiding out in some bushes, and jaime turned to him and he said, "don't worry, i've got your back." and it was at that moment that jaime knew that loren aarons was going to be a remarkable police officers. back to you, alex. >> and he was. tammy litener, thank you very
much for that. right now we are waiting for the president, scheduled to make some remarks in the south of spain. a bit earlier, he spoke about the situation in dallas as well as minnesota and baton rouge. in just a few minutes, he'll also be speaking with military members and their families at a u.s. naval station. we will bring that to you live. let's turn now to presidential politics. the sanders campaign is once again calling foul against the democratic party. just a day after the sanders campaign claimed victory with the adoption of the $15 minimum wage requirement in the dnc platform, we are learning that the committee has rejected anti-tpp language, which is a decision that could reignite tensions between sanders and the dnc, and it comes just a week-plus before he is expected to endorse clinton. meanwhile, new reaction today from retired lieutenant general michael flynn. he is an adviser to donald trump, and he is reportedly being vetted by the trump campaign. >> reporter: you are being vetted, we are told, as a vice presidential candidate. is that true?
>> okay. that's -- you're -- >> reporter: you don't know. >> i don't know. >> reporter: do you want to be vice president? would you like to be donald trump's vice president? >> i have said that, you know, service to this country is an honor. i am honored to be even in this discussion. >> nbc's hallie jackson is joining me now from our bureau in washington, of course following the trump campaign for us. you heard the lieutenant general there. what are you hearing about this "washington post" report, whether it's true, and if so, would that signal something different about the direction the campaign is heading in? >> reporter: that he's in the mix, alex, we can report, for this potential vp slot, right? the vetting is happening, that trump is seriously considering him as one of the choices. but interestingly, there's more news that flynn is making this morning, just within the last couple of hours. because remember, he is somebody who has identified himself as a registered democrat. he says he's centrist. this is flynn we're talking about. but what we keep hearing from republicans, from those in conservative circles, from members of the grassroots, is that they are looking to donald trump to pick a vice president who will help boost his standing
among conservatives and bolster his conservative credentials, essentially. flynn is raisining eyebrows in some circles with comments on abortion, when he said on one of the sunday shows that he believes women should be able to choose when it comes to this. now, already we are hearing from the head of the susan b. anthony list, the antiabortion group, saying that this essentially disqualifies flynn from being able to serve as vice president. so, within about 24-48 hours of flynn's name being mentioned, he's already stepping into some hot water. and meanwhile, alex, this is the week where we start to head into the premeetings ahead of the convention in cleveland. and you've got to imagine the gop delegates, something like this is not something they want to hear. these sort of hard-core conservatives, the most active conservative folks that are coming out to convention that are being named delegates whg out on the rules and platform committee. comments like that from flynn not ideal for them, presumably. so, a lot kind of happening this morning in the world of trump veepstakes as he heads to
virginia tomorrow. >> hallie, my question to you is, are you hearing that trump is the one who's driving this extra scrutiny on general flynn, or is it advisers? i mean, is this something trump's calling the shots? >> reporter: ultimately, alex. here's what we're hearing from sources inside and outside the campaign, that whoever is going to be named vice president, it's going to be almost entirely up to donald trump. that is something that he has proven over the last, what, year or so that he's been in the campaign, year plus, that he is the one who is pulling the strings, who is making the ultimate decisions. now, what we have seen in the last couple weeks appears to be a growing influence of his advisers, but when it comes to a decision like the vice presidential candidate -- you know this -- it's not always just about what this person could add to the ticket, but about the chemistry between the running mate and the candidate himself. and that is something that for trump will be important, as it is for any candidate. so, he is the one who will ultimately call the shots, although you know that he has been huddling with advisers, trying to hash out sort of who the best person might be.
part of it, too, is trump heading into the convention looking to basically, i don't want to say make a splash, but take the news cycle when he does announce who his running mate will be. this is a big moment in the campaign. >> yeah, and if he takes general flynn, this definitely secures his position as outsider status, if the two of them partner up together. >> right! and the other thing it does, too, alex, looking at national security, particularly at this moment in time, a major issue that republicans are voting on. you talk about donald trump's appeal to, for sexample, the security moms, independent women who rate national security as incredibly high on what's important to them voting. so flynn could shore up trump in that area. but at the same time, his positions on other issues may be giving conservatives pause. >> okay. thank you very much, ahallie jackson in d.c. appreciate that from the republican side. on the democratic side, kristen welker is following the clinton campaign for us. let's talk about the dnc's rejection of the anti-tpp language. how does that impact potentially
what comes forth from bernie sanders to, you know, endorse or not or just cause some trouble? >> well, the sanders camp sees that as a small defeat. that was something that they were pushing for, there's no doubt about that, alex. but overall, they're really declaring victory today. let me read you a little bit of the statement that the sanders campaign just put out. they write, "pressed by supporters of u.s. senator bernie sanders, democratic platform writers meeting this weekend in orlando, florida, adopted a progressive agenda that underscores the need for bold action on climate change' dresses criminal justice reform, and calls for doubling the federal minimum wage." on that last point, the sanders campaign sees that as a victory, that the platform says that democrats will fight to get the minimum wage to $15 an hour. remember, that was the big divide between sanders and clinton during the primary. one top official telling nbc news they think they got 80% of what they were pushing for. so, overall, that's pretty good. that puts him on track to appear with secretary clinton. she's going to be campaigning in new hampshire on tuesday.
puts him on track to be there with her. that's what we're hearing. now, could he pull out in the final hours? it's always possible that there could be some last-minute glitch. but at this point, it seems like she's going to get his endorsement on tuesday. that's going to be a big, big deal for secretary clinton. obviously, she's been trying to unify the party, has gotten endorsements from president obama, elizabeth warren. bernie sanders is that final and key endorsement she needs, of course, to win over his supporters. >> but my question to you, kristen, is the definition of endorsement, is that merely bernie sanders saying i support senator clinton? or is that bernie sanders saying to all of his many followers, you need to now support her and cast your vote for her? >> that's the critical question the clinton campaign wants to see the latter. >> sure. >> they want him to vigorously campaign for her, as she did for president obama back in 2008. that's the model that they want to see senator sanders follow. i think some of those details are still being worked out. but you've heard senator sanders say time and time again, he's going to do whatever's possible to defeat donald trump. clinton campaign's argument is, the only way to do that is to campaign vigorously for
secretary clinton and get his supporters on board. there's still about a third of his supporters who say they're not quite ready to vote for secretary clinton. so, he could be critical. >> veepstakes in terms of senator clinton, are we getting a time frame for that as we are donald trump. cleveland or philadelphia? >> i think you'll probably hear her announce after donald trump announces. she's going to wait to see who he picks. tim kaine obviously a big name, senator elizabeth warren, cory booker. but there are a lot of eyes on senator tim kaine. >> okay. >> he's the one we're sort of watching at this point. >> okay, well, then we'll watch along with you. thank you kristen welker. >> thanks. the dallas gunman leaves a message in blood. insight into what that could mean, next. i love that my shop is part of the morning ritual around here. people rely on that first cup and i wouldn't want to mess with that. but when (my) back pain got bad, i couldn't sleep. i had trouble getting there on time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a sleep aid
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some new details today from the dallas police chief about the gunman who shot and killed five dallas police officers on thursday night. >> at the scene where he was killed, he wrote some lettering in blood on the walls. we are trying to decipher that, but he wrote the letters "rb." >> rb? >> and we don't -- rb, yeah. so, we're trying to figure out through looking at things in his home what those initials mean. >> let's bring in "time" magazine correspondent jamie newton-small, in dallas for us. her latest story looks at the life of the gunman. with a good morning to you, what are you hearing, if anything, about what the police chief said, the initials "rb," and what they might mean? >> hi, good morning. obviously, the investigation is ongoing. i had an exclusive interview with mayor mike rollings here in dallas this morning, who told me that they are still looking to see if there were any accomplices he might have been working with, not in this particular shooting. he obviously was working alone.
but in his training, in his ideology. they feel that he was radicalized, in essence, what they call afrocentric radicalization, and they're trying to figure out who radicalized him who he was in touch with and his thinking. so, there is still an ongoing investigation trying to figure out who he was talking to, who he was friends with, even, because most of the movement here, when i spoke with the black lives matter movement, had never heard of this man. they had never seen him. they have searched and searched through their rolls and nobody can find any record of him. so, the police and the activists are still trying to figure out who this guy was. >> in your interview with mayor rawlings, is that something that makes it more difficult for him, that he was basically unknown? >> it does make it very difficult, because these kinds of lone wolf, you know, kind of personalities -- this man was known to be very much an intervo overtime. his neighbors said other than mowing the lawn and tending the garden, he didn't interact with
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himself, for his children. they both have very young children, that they might get attacked, they might see violence against them. there's been a ton of threats where people have found their homes and have sent him google maps saying "i'm coming for you," so they're really afraid still. >> when you say they're in hiding, are they getting police protection? there's a certain irony in that. or is this on their own? >> no, in fact, they have not approached the police. they're still afraid of the police. they say the last people they would want near them right now are the police, since they had such a bad experience. so, they're really just protecting themselves and it's not only hurt their families, but their businesses. they're both entrepreneurs. their businesses have come to a complete standstill because of this. so, they really feel that the city of dallas, and particularly the police department, owes them an apology, i n some monetary reward for what's going on, because they've really lost not only their own business but their safety. >> yeah. and finally, regard to the black lives matter community in
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welcome back, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. donald trump is striking a dramatically different tone over this week's shooting than he did during a facebook video just two days ago. earlier this morning, he tweeted, "look what is happening to our country under the weak leadership of obama and people like crooked hillary clinton. we are a divided nation." joining me now, jeremy peters, an msnbc contributor and reporter for "the new york times." former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, an msnbc political analyst and contributor to cnbc. and susan del percio, a republican strategist that we don't see on camera just yet. we know she is there. with a welcome to you all, jeremy, i'm going to begin with you here. given what we've just heard in donald trump's tweet, is it back to business as usual, you think, in his rhetoric? because the facebook video suggested his tone might be changing from this point out. i mean, he was trying to appear presidential, scripted. >> i think that we should all stop trying to assign characteristics to donald trump. >> oh, fine.
>> that do not exist, right? this is a guy who is impetuous, he's impulsive, and he's had a lot of political success so far being that way. and by all accounts, talking to the people around him, they don't believe that he sees much need to change, and that's a big point of tension in the campaign right now. just how much do you let donald be donald, as they like to say, and just how much do you stick him in front of a prompter and make him stick to a script? i think what will be an interesting test over the next week, alex, when we see him at the convention, and what kind of reaction there is when you see a trump who is following line by line a speech that's been written for him, what kind of reaction that gets from people. does he get the usual convention bump, or do you -- >> let me ask you, notwithstanding the convention, what kind of reaction does he get? i'm just going to say, you know, observations here around the newsroom was that when he's scripted like that, it doesn't sound like him. >> right. and that's exactly the problem.
and that, i think, is the chief difficulty in pulling off a convention with donald trump, is how do you take a guy who at his best, i guess some would say, is totally off message, totally off script, and put him in a setting that requires extraordinary message discipline? and i think it's a huge, huge question whether or not this convention is ultimately successful for him. >> can i ask our republican strategist here, susan, to answer that question? how do you do that? >> it's going to be very tricky to see how donald trump handles himself. we see a different donald trump every 24 hours. so, leading up to the week of the convention -- i believe, for example, there's going to be a big moment when he announces his vp pick this week. that will be interesting to see who he picks, how he handles it, how he does that announcement. the convention's going to be very tricky for everyone who's attending, because all those speakers don't know exactly what donald trump is going to say. and that makes it really difficult for the down-ballot candidates to kind of figure out
a way to weave him into the campaign. >> look, governor, given your experience in higher office like this, what is more important for donald trump when it comes to his veep pick? is it someone with whom he can work? is it someone that his advisers say this would be the best person for you, should you get into the oval office? is it someone that the campaign advisers will say, listen, here's who we need to win? i mean, how does that play out? >> well, i think donald trump's biggest challenge -- and jeremy said donald trump at his best is off script, et cetera. that's at his best to the republican primary voters. to the voters in this general election, the independents that he has to win, the moderate republicans that he has to keep, the conservative democrats that he has to win over, to them, he's got to sound more presidential. and interestingly, i thought his scripted facebook speech after the dallas shooting was excellent. it was excellent. and he delivered it well and he looked credible and was
excellent. then he sends out a tweet like you just read, and it destroys all the good he had in that speech. look, his vice president should be someone who people can take a deep breath and say be any problem. that's the biggest test. that's the biggest test. if he picks someone who's just an attack dog, it will just feed the narrative. >> yeah. in terms of all of these issues right now, governor, how should we expect both the clinton and trump camps to tackle the issues of race, of violence, law enforcement leading into the election, and how could their messages help either one win? >> i think it's a balance. it's clearly an important issue, but it may be one of those issues where there is no right answer because there is no credibility out there among groups that anything's going to change. look, the answer is, what can the federal government do about policing? remember, police forces are usually in the province of either the local government or
the state government, if they're state police. so, can the federal government offer money? hillary clinton had said she would put $1 billion into the budget for jurisdictions that wanted to increase police sensitivity training, training on what to do in certain situations, how to handle them. training is important. you heard commissioner ramsey today on "meet the press" talk about how we're making progress. because in big-city police departments, there is sensitivity training, there's training about what to do in these types of incidents. so, yeah, i think that the message we're going to get from both hillary clinton and donald trump, got to get together, police have to be trained better, but we have to stand behind the police and realize what a dangerous job they have. and the community has to reach out to the police just as the police have to reach out to the community. tough message to deliver. there's very little credibility out there on either side of this. >> yeah. how about for the president, susan? i want to get your reaction to his response to both of these police-involved shootings as
well as the attack in dallas. and you know he is expected to travel to dallas in the next couple of days. how are you looking for him to address what's going on in our country when he's in dallas? >> i think to governor rendell's point, it's a very hard -- it's a very tricky line to walk, especially for the president who has been challenged a lot on the issue of race. you have people who all the way to the left feel that he hasn't done enough. you have people to the left who feels that he overstepped, he oversteps and really just doesn't protect the police officers enough. he really needs to send a uniting message, and it's going to be very reflective on the hillary campaign camp in this light now, because everything he does is going to be viewed as political. so, he has a tough way to go there. >> mm-hmm. jeremy, i want to turn to your reporting on the gop convention next week, because you're saying that, well, you're talking about caitlyn jenner's involvement here as it relates to the platform that the party is crafting. this platform committee begins meeting tomorrow. so, how much might the committee shift on lgbt issues?
and do you think that's a reflection of trump's stance on lgbt rights? >> that's right, alex. tonight the republican platform committee members will get their first glimpse of the draft of the 2016 platform. and then tomorrow and tuesday, they will begin editing it, revising and adding to it. and one of the most contentious issues is going to be just how far to take the anti-lgbt language. there is a group that is backed by paul singer, the new york billionaire, who has funded a lot of gay rights fights around the country, and they are pushing for language that would not say the gop supports gay marriage by any stretch, but look, we need to be more tolerant of people with all views on marriage. and even that is going to be a big fight, because the platform committee is dominated by a lot of very hard-line social conservatives. now, where trump fits in is interesting. i'm told that a few days ago he had a call from caitlyn jenner, and they spoke. it was a very friendly conversation. but this shows the line that trump is straddling here.
like, on the one hand, he needs to appeal to social conservatives, he needs to reassure those who have doubts over the convictions of his conservati conservatism, but he also is torn, i think here, personally, because he is somebody who, you know, while he doesn't go nearly as far as a lot of democrats would like him to on gay rights -- and he is opposed to gay marriage -- he certainly in his heart is more open to gay people and lgbt people. so, it's a fine line to walk. >> all right, governor, i want to talk about the expected endorsement from sanders of secretary clinton. what happens after the endorsement? does he go on the campaign trail with her, or might he be standing by his initial stance that she has to fight for his supporters? >> well, i think what happened at the platform committee i think was very useful. bernie sanders' folks won 65%, maybe 70% of the fights, moving the minimum wage to $15. and if the clinton people had wanted to stop that, they could
have stopped it. they had the votes. i think it was about 100-70 in the platform committee. and they let it happen, and with good reason, because i think all democrats would like to see it be $15. platforms are just goals. and obviously, we're going to have to get to that goal. but i think you're seeing a coming together on the issues. and i think if that continues, we're going to have bernie sanders out there who's going to be very engaged. i think he understands that what he has done is remarkable this year. he has moved the party. he has moved the country to consider issues that were not foremost on the radar screen. he's done a great job doing that. but if he wants to have real substantive success in advancing on those issues, hillary clinton's the only vehicle he can hope for. >> okay. susan, we heard a snippet of this earlier. retired lieutenant general michael flynn not confirming whether he's being vetted by the trump campaign. but what does this consideration on the part of the campaign
signal, and how strong of a running mate do you think he would be for trump? >> well, he's a democrat, he's pro-choice. those are a couple of things that would certainly concern the folks in cleveland next week. >> but wait, does that allow trump to punt, you know, just exactly what ed rendell was talking about -- does it allow him to punt to his vice president? because people don't necessarily vote the vice president. they're voting the top of the ticket. >> well, i think, what i was going to finish saying is that i think it goes to the fact that donald trump is doing a huge head fake. i think he's going to choose someone -- he doesn't care what the party elders think. he doesn't care what he's supposed to -- what people say he's supposed to do. he's going to do what he wants to do. and if he's going to go with a rust belt strategy, he is going to definitely have to get more moderate republicans and independents, as governor rendell said. so, i think he's going to do something completely unexpected. >> okay. i also should say jeremy was also talking about that. sorry about that. with regards to others in
consideration, who, if not general flynn, do you think is top of the ticket? >> i think you're looking at scott brown as probably one of the people. i know governor rendell disagrees with thirks but i do think that he's someone that donald trump will consider, because loyalty is probably one of the key factors for donald trump's decision-making. and scott brown was one of the first senators, whether current or former, that endorsed donald trump. and he did it a week before new hampshire. and he's someone, again, who if you're focused on a rust belt strategy, is someone who could work very well for him. >> he is someone, though, who is driving this narrative, as donald trump is doing it. is he listening to advisers, do you think, when it comes to making this choice, ultimately? >> i think he's listening to hear what people have to say, what they think is important, but i think he's going to make this decision completely on his gut and what he thinks is right, because this is what's worked for him so far. >> okay, susan, ed, jeremy. thank you, all three of you. appreciate it. great to see you. coming up, we're going to go
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black lives matter activist deray mckesson, who we spoke with last week, was arrested during the protest in baton rouge. mckesson, a member of the movement and former candidate for mayor of baltimore, was protesting the death of alton sterling, sterling killed by police on tuesday. video of that shooting has sparked national outrage. dozens of other protesters were also arrested. and these protests breaking out in several cities across the state. we had baton rouge, louisiana. more than 100 people were taken into custody there. nbc's sarah dallof is there for us. sarah, with a good day to you, what is it like there right now? >> reporter: well, hi there, alex. it's relatively calm and quiet. behind me at the convenience store, where alton sterling was
shot and killed. but more protests scheduled for later today calling for justice for sterling as well as police reform across the nation. president obama touching on that topic earlier this morning from spain. >> if we paint police in broad brush, without recognizing that the vast majority of police officers are doing a really good job, and are trying to protect people and do so fairly and without racial bias, if our rhetoric does not recognize that, then we're going to lose allies in the reform cause. >> reporter: now, here in baton rouge last night, some 500 protesters marched from city hall to the state capital and at a second location at
headquarters, protesters faced off with police in riot gear. sterling's family also speaking out today, saying they want to see the two officers involved in the shooting charged federally. they also reiterated that their motivations and the motivations of the gunman in dallas who killed five police officers are in no way related. >> i'm so sorry to all y'all, but we don't promote violence. what that man did had nothing to do with what we're trying to -- we're trying to serve a purpose bp we want justice for alton. we're not promoting violence, and i'm really sorry that that happened to them, because now they're feeling what i'm feeling. that's not what i wanted to happen. i just wanted justice. >> reporter: now, overnight, more than 100 protesters, as you mentioned, were arrested, including a radio reporter out of new orleans and prominent black lives matter activist deray mckesson. mckesson, we've learned, was charged with simple obstruction
of a highway, as do a majority of those taken into custody last night, alex. back to you. >> what was the reaction overall throughout the city to the shutting down of that highway? wasn't it seven hours that it was blocked? that's got to create some kind of havoc around that city. >> reporter: i actually believe that's a different highway that we were talking about, alex. the highway here, they were able to keep the protesters off of, except for short bursts when those protesters would advance and police would advance, the police would back off, protesters would back off. but they were really specific that once you cross that line even an inch or so, that you would be taken into custody, and that's what we saw. >> well, that would mean the folks in minnesota were the ones suffering. thank you, sarah dallof, from baton rouge. right now we are waiting for the president to make remarks in the south of spain. he just wrapped up a tour of the "uss ross" and will take time to speak to military members and their families at the u.s. naval station rota. we're going to bring that to you as soon as that gets under way. ♪
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happening now, a myakka doctor was fatally gored many times by a bull on live television during a bull fight in spain. he is the first professional bull fighter to be killed in the ring in more than three decades. medics were at his side almost immediately, but attempts to save his life were unsuccessful. firefighters are making progress on a wildfire burning in southern california. that fire started yesterday afternoon in santa clarita, a town just north of los angeles. about 2,000 people were forced to evacuate. most are back home now, as the fire's moving away from the structures. lin-manuel miranda, the creator and star of the broadway hit "hamilton," took his final curtain call last night. miranda made a solo bow with his hand to his heart before a fellow actor pushed him forward on stage to receive the full blessings from the audience. now, of note here, the music playing was not from the broadway hit, as he took his final bow. rather, it was the theme from aaron sorkin's "the west wing," which miranda tributes as having a huge influence on the creation
of "hamilton." it is a city in pain three days after the deadly ambush in dallas. the city's newspaper today is featuring a rare, front-page editorial. above the headline, "this city, our city," an illustrated eye with a teardrop. it reads in part "we've asked all of us, why us, why this city, why these officers, why now? and we are surely not alone in asking, as our hearts break, what kind of country are we creating where such violence has become so frequent? today our country seems capable of pulling apart in ways that have not seemed possible in many decades. dallas, again, has been bathed in blood and grief. how we respond will help show a path." those sentiments from "the dallas morning news" in its first front-page editorial since september 12, 2001. let's go right now to the u.s. naval base rota in southern spain. the president's taken to the podium addressing military members and their families. let's listen. >> i want to recognize your
outstanding leadership team here at rota. vice admiral jamie fogo. give him a big round of applause, come on, guys. captain mike mcnichol. now, apparently, mike's only been here three weeks. five days after he started, the secretary of the navy visited. and now here comes the president. so, we're testing mike a little bit. it's like the in-laws coming over. but he is doing an outstanding job already. we have great confidence in him. and i also want to acknowledge command master chief michelle brooks. i tend to like people named
michelle. and you spell it right, with two ls. that's the right way to do it. now, we've got quite a group here today. we've got sailors from the united states navy. we've got the air force 725th maintenance squadron! we've got marines from marrone. we've got outstanding civilian personnel. don't be left out, civilians. let's make some noise. and, of course, we've got the loved ones who serve by your side. give it up for our incredible military families! whoo! and we're proud to be joined by our outstanding spanish allies
and friends. mati naros from our spain's armada. yeah, we can clap. come on. see, the spanish are a little more polite than we are, all right? we're just yelling. i want to acknowledgedmiral munoz delgado, ad myrell swanses and admiral gonzalez gomez. and on behalf of the american people, i want to thank mayor arana and everyone in his community and this country for being such great hosts and partners and friends to all of the american personnel and their families who are here in spain. we're grateful. muchos gracias.
now, i'm not going to give a long speech. i know you've been standing here or sitting here for a while, and it's a little warm. but what i really wanted to do is come down and shake some han hands. you know, i -- look, i'll be honest, it's been a tough week back home. and i've had to adjust my schedule. i was going to be in spain for two days. now i'm just here for a day. but i didn't want to miss the opportunity to come and thank all of you for your outstanding service. you know, i just wrapped up our two days of meetings at the nato summit in warsaw, in poland. and obviously, it's a challenging time for all of our countries. recent terrorist attacks have shaken america and france and belgium and turkey. migran who are seeking refuge,
many from war-torn countries, are flocking to europe. russia's aggression against the ukraine threatens our vision of a europe that is at peace. and a vote in britain has raised questions about the kind of europe that we're going to see in the years ahead. so, on my visit to europe, what i have been trying to communicate, what i've been wanting to focus on, is america's relation to europe and the fact that our commitment will not change. we have an enduring commitment to the transatlantic alliance and to our allies in europe, because you are central to our security, and we could not have a more important alliance or a better set of friends than those of you here in europe. that includes a strong and unified spain, one of our closest allies. you know, the alliance between
our countries is rooted in shared values. of democracy and pluralism and open markets and our shared commitment to freedom. for more than 60 years, spain has hosted americans here at rota. today this base is home to more than 3,000 americans, and it's the home port for american destroyers that strengthen our alliance's new missile defense, as i just saw during my visit aboard the "uss ross." although i will say, when i visited ships these days, i feel like an old man, because the average age is like 21 on these ships. and i had to tell some of the folks on board that you couldn't put me in charge of anything at 21. so, the fact that they're doing such incredible work makes me
really proud. but day in and day out, americans and spaniards like you serve together, shoulder to shoulder, not only here, but in missions for our common secur y security, in the coalition to destroy isil, combating piracy, supporting peacekeeping and humanitarian efforts, and that's because we believe that people around the world and here in europe have the right to live in security and prosperity and dignity. that's what america stands for, that's what spain stands for, and that's what nato stands for. so, my message today is that we're going to keep standing together to meet the challenges of our time. in the face of terrorist networks that seek to destroy, we're going to prevail not only because of our military strength, but because we will stay true to our values. our diversit o