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national security and jobs? we will awfully admit, friends, 1.1 million permanent residents added to this country more than any other country in the world, and they are for the most part wonderful new additions to our country. [ applause ] and on top of that we have 700,000 workers that take jobs, the majority of these are not season or agri cultural workers. there are about 3,000 people that cross the borders and almost 500,000 more unlawfully over stay their visas. these are extreme numbers, but the only solution from obama and hillary clinton is to capitulate to the lawlessness and give am nesty and citizenship to all.
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it will not work. >> understand this -- >> we reluctantly interrupt sessions, we now know it took the trump aircraft so long after coming to a halt to actually see the trumps coming off. it can now be told they were spending time with matt lauer for tomorrow morning for today. we have received permission to run a portion of the conversation. this is conversation with matt, donald on board the aircraft after their arrival tonight in cleveland. >> you guys have flown on this plane all across the country for the last year or so, did this flight feel different, was there a different energy on the plane. >> a little bit is a lot of energy next to us right in that
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hall, there's a lot of energy going on. >> is it surreal to finally be here? we've talked about this week for so long. >> we have. >> mr. trump, is it surreal to be here? >> i think it's a great feeling, great accomplishment, the real accomplishment, you know what it is, make america great again. it's a lot of work, a lot of activity, i will say, you see the hall, you see the kind of enthusiasm they have, they want to see something happen let's make america great again. >> one campaign that ends and another part begins, your wife is going to get to speak to the delegates. >> that's right. >> about you. has she gone over the speech with you, did you practice it on the plane. >> i read once over it, that's all, i wrote it, with as little help as possible. >> are you're in vo nervous?
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>> it's exciting. >> what do you want to tell the delegates? >> he's an amazing. >> that was good. >> so he's an amazing guy and he really wants to bring america to next level. >> melania trump will be guest tomorrow morning on today following her prime time speech to the convention tonight and her husband presumptive nominee. they entered earlier will be giving her introduction. this was the video of them arriving tonight, matt interviewing the two of them on the plane after taxiing in in cleveland. we have a little bit of hubbub on the convention floor, jeff sessions is still speaking. we had a demonstrator on banner was difficult to read from our vantage point. she has been surrounded, the
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banner was taken down. in the trump family box, mike pence -- >> this is around the protesters, the pink banner there in the arms of the police officer. you can tell that it was a code pink banner, code pink, frequent protesters couldn't tell what it is. >> here is rudolph julianny who has been in the news a lot of late. >> thank you. thank you. thank you [ applause ] thank you [ applause ] thank you [ applause ] thank you thank you. thank you! [ applause ] thank you! [ applause ] thank you. [ applause ] thank you, new york, for a new yorker for once on the ticket, donald trump. [ applause ]
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i'm here to speak to you about a very serious subject, how to make america safe, the vast majority of americans today do not feel safe. they fear for their children. they fear for themselves, they fear for our police officers who are being targeted with a target on their back. we pray for our police officers in dallas and baton rouge and their families. and we say thank you to the cleveland police department for protecting us. thank you.
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we know -- we know the risk you're taking. and we thank you to every police officer and law enforcement agent who is out tonight protecting us, black, white, latino, of every race, every color, every creed, every sexual orientation. when they come to save your life, they don't ask if you're black or white, they just come to save you. [ applause ] we also reach out our arms with understanding and compassion to
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those who have lost loved ones because of police shootings, some justified, some unjustified, those that are unjustified must be punished, those that are justified, we must apologize to it's time to make america safe again. it's time to make america one again. one america. what happened to there's no black america, there's no one america, there is just america? what happened to it? where did it go?
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how did it fall away? . i know we can change it because i did it by changing new york city from the crime capitol of america to the safest large city in the united states. [ applause ] what i did for new york, donald trump will do for america. [ applause ] i have known donald trump for almost 30 years and he has created and accomplished great things. in my city and all over the world, but beyond that, this is
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a man with a big heart. every time new york suffered a tragedy, donald trump was there to help. [ applause ] he's not going to like my telling you this, but he did anonymously, when police officers were shot, when firefighters were hurt, when people were in trouble, he came forward and he helped and he asked not to be mentioned. well, i am going to break my promise to you, i am going to mention it. this is a man with a big heart who loves people, all people from the top to the bottom to the middle to the side. i am telling you this because i am sick and tired of the defamation of donald trump by
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the media and by the clinton campaign. i am sick and tired of it. this is a good man. [ applause ] and america should be sick and tired of the vicious nasty campaign. you deserve to know this about your next president, he's been a great father, father and grandfather and friend to me, my wife, judith, and my family for now almost 30 years. i know him personally, and this is a very good and decent man. and he will be a great president. [ applause ] in the last seven months there have been five major islamic
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terrorist attacks on us and our allies. we must not be afraid to define our enemy. it is islamic extremist terrorism. [ applause ] for the purposes of the immediate yarksmedia i did not say all of islam, i did not say most of islam. i said islamic extremist terrorism, you know who you are. and we're coming to get you.
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failing to identify them properly aligns all of those good muslims around the world who are being killed by them. it also sets up a fear of being politically incorrect that can have serious consequences. it did in san bernardino, it did with major nadal. he was yelling, al laak bar, the only person who couldn't figure out it was islamic terrorist extremist attack was barack
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obama, who called it workplace violence. this is why our enemies see us as weak and vulnerable. donald trump has said the first step in defeating our enemies is to identify them properly and see the connections between them so we can find them and catch them to defeat islamic extremist terrorist, we must put them on defense. if they're at war against us, which they have declared, we must commit ourselves to unconditional victory against them. this includes undoing one of the worst deals america has ever made, obama's nuclear agreement
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with iran, that will eventually let them become a nuclear power and that is putting billions of dollars back into a country that's the world's largest supporter of terrorism. we are actually giving them the money to fund the terrorists who are killing us and our allies. we are giving them the money. are we crazy? a nonnuclear iran. [ applause ] [ applause ] [ applause ] donald trump is a leader. he will reassert america's position as the nation with the best values to lead the world.
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it was hillary clinton who advocated for the over throw in libya. now libya is in chaos. hillary clinton is accountable for this and much more. her duty and failure to keep her people safe played a major role as you heard tonight in the horrific islamic terrorist murders on september 11 and 12, 2012 in benghazi which claim the lives of four brave americans. ambassador j. christopher stevens u.s. sean officer service sean smith and cia agent westwood and glen darden, may they rest in peace. [ applause ] [ applause ] [ applause ] [ applause ] and clinton and the obama administration for political
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reasons lied about the purpose of the attacks, including hillary clinton directly to the families of the people who were killed right to their face. hillary clinton's answer to congress about the death of these four brave americans, because of her gross failures of secretary of state was "what difference at this point does it make"? what difference does it make? watch the video yourselves and see the arrogant disregard for american lives lost unnecessarily because of her, and then make up your own mind. anyone who --
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[ chanting usa ] [ usa ] [ usa ] it means we're getting to them. it means we're getting to them. it means we're getting to them! [ chanting ] anyone who can say that it makes no difference how or why people serving america are killed should not be entrusted with the awesome responsibility to protect them and us and should not be allowed to be our commander in chief. [ applause ] who would trust hillary clinton to protect them? i wouldn't, would you?
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[ no ] donald trump will change all of that and more, in short, he will lead by leading, not by following. you know donald trump will secure our borders. his opponent has had her chance to do this and she has failed. hillary clinton is for open borders. [ boo ] she is in favor of even taken syrian refugees even though the islamic fate has told us they're going to put their operatifs in with the syrian refugees. operatives who are going to come here and kill us, they told us that and she still wants to take in these syrians. we can't afford to repeat the mistakes of the past. hillary clinton's -- hillary
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clinton's experience is the basis for her campaign. hillary clinton's experience is exactly the reason she should not be president of the united states. [ applause ] [ applause ] there's no next election, this is it. there's no more time for us left to revive our great count try, more time to repeat our mistakes of clinton/obama years, donald trump is the agent of change. and he will be the leader of the change we need. he will make america once again,
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like the president i worked for, ronald reagan. greatness! [ applause ] god bless our next president donald trump and god bless the united states of america [ applause ] usa! [ applause ] [ applause ] >> an energized rudolph guliani new york city mayor exhorting the gop convention. >> energized is a word. >> yes. >> that was, you know, there's a speech like this at every convention, and sometimes it --
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sometimes it plainly works, sometimes it plainly doesn't and sometimes it's a lit nis test and half the country watching will think it's maybe satire. i think that happened probably with jennifer grenholm's speech. howard dean screaming into the microphone after the iowa caucuses. >> everybody saw that. >> not the people in the room, interestingly not the people in the room didn't know the microphone was picking that up. but this was an unleashed ad libbing about a third of his speech and hitting high notes. >> he said there's no next election, this is it. does he know something we don't know. >> at one point screamed, are we crazy? and the crowd screamed back,
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yeah. >> it reminded me of miller speech in 2004. >> oh, yeah, that's a good analogy. >> here we go. ♪ we are the champions ♪ ♪ ♪ [ applause ] thank you everybody, thank you. we love you. thank you very much. oh, we're going to win. we're going to win so much. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. thank you very much [ applause ] [ applause ] [ applause ]
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[ applause ] we're going to win so big, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. we're doing to win so big, thank you. ladies and gentlemen, it is my great honor to present the next first lady of the united states, my wife, an amazing mother, an incredible woman, milania trump, thank you very much. thank you. thank you [ applause ] ♪ we are the champions ♪
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thank you. thank you very much. you have all been very kind to donald and me, to our young son barron and to our whole family. it's a very nice welcome and we're excited to be with you at this historic convention [ we love you ] [ applause ] i'm so proud of your choice for president of the united states, my husband donald j. trump. [ applause ] and i can assure you he's moved by this great honor, the 2016 republican primaries were fierce and started with many candidates, 17 to be exact. and i know that donald agrees
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with me when i mention how talented of all -- talented all of them are. they deserve their respect and gratitude from all of us. [ applause ] however, when it comes to my husband, i will say that i'm definitely bias, and for a good reason. i have been with donald for 18 years and i have been aware of his love for this country since we first met. he never had a hidden agenda when it comes to his patriotism, because like me, he loves this country very much. [ applause ] i was born in slovania a small beautiful and then communist
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country in central europe. my sister who is an incredible woman and friend and i were raised by our wonderful parents, our hardworking mother introduced me to fashion and beauty. my father gave me a passion for business and travel, their integrity, passion and intelligence reflects to this day on me and for my love of family in america. [ applause ] [ applause ] [ applause ] from a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. that your word is your bond, and you do what you say and keep your promise, that you treat people with respect. they thought and showed me values and morals in their daily life, that is a lesson that i
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continue to pass along to our son. and we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow because -- [ applause ] -- because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them. fortunately for my heritage, i traveled the world while working hard in the incredible arena of fashion. after leaving and working in mulan and paris, i arrived in new york city 20 years ago and i so both the joys and hardships
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of daily life. on july 28, 2006, i was very proud to become citizens of the united states. i cannot take the freedoms this country offers for granted. these freedoms have come with a price so many times, the sacrifices made by our veterans, reminders to us of this, i would like to take a moment to recognize an amazing veteran, the great senator, bob dole.
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[ applause ] and let us thank all of our veterans in the arena today and those across our great country. we are all truly blessed to be here. i can tell you my husband has been concerned about our country for as long as i've known him. i know with my heart he'll make a great and lasting difference. donald has a great and deep and unbonding determination and a
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never give up attitude. i have seen him fight for years to get a project or even started and he does not give up. . if you want someone to fight for you and your country, i can assure you, he's the guy. he will never give up and he will never let you down. donald is and always is an amazing leader, now he will go to work for you. he speaks for himself and his
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performance proved that he knows how to win. he knows how to remain focus on improving our country on keeping it safe and secure. this kindness is not always noted but is there for all to see, that's one of the reasons i fell in love with him to begin with. [ applause ] donald is intensely loi yadyal family, friends, he has the utmost respect for his parents. to his sister marion elizabeth. to his brother robert and to the memory of his late brother,
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fred. his children have been cared for and mentored to the extent that even he's advisories admit they're an amazing testament to who he is as a man and a father. there's a great deal of love in the trump family, that is our bond and that is our strength. yes, donald thinks big, which is especially important when considering the presidency of the united states. no room for small thinking, no room for small results. donald gets things done. [ applause ] our country is under performing and needs new leadership.
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donald wants our country to move forward in the most positive of ways. everyone wants change. donald is the only one that can deliver it. we should not be satisfied with stagnation. donald wants prosperity for all americans. we need new programs and opportunities to challenge the young. there has to be a plan for growth, only then we'll fear this result. . my husband's experience exemplifies growth and opportunity to the next generation. his success indicates inclusion rather than division. my husband offers a new direction welcoming change,
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prosperity, and greater corporation among peoples and nations. donald intends to present all the people, not just some of the people. [ applause ] that includes christians and jus an muslims, it includes hispanics and african-americans and asians, and the poor and the middle class. throughout his career donald has successfully worked with people of many faiths and many nations. like no one else, i have seen the talent, the energy, the tenancy, the resourceful mind and the simple goodness of the heart that god gave to donald
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trump. now is the time to use those gifts as never before for purposes far greater than ever. and he will do this better than anyone else can and he won't even be close. [ laughter ] [ applause ] people are counting on him, all the millions of you who have touched us so much with your kindness and your confidence. you have turned these to a movement that is still gaining in strength and number. the primary season and its toughness is behind us.
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let's all come together in a national campaign like no other. the race will be heart fought all the way to november. there will be good times and hard times and unexpected turns it will not be a trump contest without excitement and drama. [ applause ] but throughout it all, my husband will remain focused on only one thing, this beautiful country that he loves so much. [ applause ] if i'm honored to serve as first lady, i will use that wonderful privilege to try to help people who live in our country who need
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it the most, one of the many causes dear to my heart is helping children and women, you judge society about how it treats its citizens. we must do our best to ensure that every child can live in comfort and security with the best possible education. as a citizen of this great nation it is kindness love and compassion for each other that will bring us together and keep us together these are the values donald and i will bring to the white house.
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my husband is ready to lead this great nation. he's ready to fight every day to give our children the future they deserve. ladies and gentlemen, donald j. trump is ready to serve and lead this country as the next president of the united states [ applause ] thank you. god bless you. and god bless america. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ applause ] >> milania trump giving her long awaited remarks tonight being greeted there on stage by her husband. it is a somewhat decision for the nominee himself to have appeared this early on in the convention. he'll be giving his own remarks on thursday night. he appeared tonight and made very brief remarks.
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he rose up on stage in a blue cloud of fog and then, we're going to win so big. we're going to win so big, we're going to win so big, and then he introduced his wife, milania trump speaking with her native accent, giving very straightforward and i think very well received remarks. i think that was a longer speech than most people expected her to give. she kept right to it. a lot of wide smiles and outstanding ovation for her. >> let's not forget, imagery is important, the same profile that greeted viewers at the start of the apprentice for so many years, and music selections interesting, "brown eyed girl" and what would freddie mercury and queen make of "we are the champions". >> i hear worrying somewhere.
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>> it was kind of remarkable, you get the blue fog and the silhouette and then the tell prompters. i think this was a real graceful. >> i thought it was a good speech, actually. i thought she delivered it well. the one thing the speech didn't have was, you know, personal anecdote about trump, something -- >> true. >> -- something to tie him into the apartment or trump power, or just something kindness that he did for someone. >> or even just how they met or they're getting proposal. >> it was more general than that. but other than that, i thought it was good. >> she did talk a little bit about her own up bringing, she named her sister and her mother and her father. i think we'll see her again tomorrow morning on the "today
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show" she'll sit with an interview. as far as it goes, it's awkward to have to go after antiimmigrant rant, aside from that awkwardness, i think that was good. >> i think in fairness to senator sessions, he talked about illegal immigration. >> he talked about the number of immigrants being too big. >> he talked about the amount of illegal immigrants. >> he talked about the number of people getting visas. >> i think that's a fault line rachel in this election with the 32% that chuck talked about that will be undecided here, which is support of legal immigration, but be worried about illegal immigration. i think as we go forward in this campaign, we'll see that play out. >> i think sessions is a bad spokesman for that. he says the problem is also legal immigration, which is part of what he spoke about tonight. i think that's a much harder line that trump has frankly embraced. >> let's go to chris matthews in
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the hole. >> i'm here with you. >> reporter: i want to go back a bit to the speech before which is i think the real keynote address of this convention. i thought rudy giliani was something else. why is it when he speaks from his new york east sort of point of view. >> he was set up so perfectly, humble arkansas and then reclaimed new york. it's the best hour of the campaign that donald trump has had. you go from cotton, to gilani with donald, best hour he could have hoped for. so even though it's kind of the uber convention where everybody is driving themselves around. >> he was selling hawkishness. let's do more regime change, he doesn't make -- he makes -- rudy
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reminds me of bo gart character in casa blanco ka, when they say something about invading new york and bogeys character says to them, there are certain neighbors in new york, i wouldn't advise you trying to invade. it's an american gritty urban attitude, right. >> i think he's deeply loved in america. he's a transform tif figure in new york. >> don't mess with my neighborhood. >> they call that bob dole as well. they brought it all together in that package. that was a great package for an hour for them. i think if they can keep that momentum going, it was good. >> and they have to do eric serve right on the other hand. rudy has no place to criticize anyone for defaming anyone. this day began with his candidate accusing the president united states of being in cahoots with the cop killers.
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i'm telling you to get below that. >> jeff -- >> no. i'm talking about what donald trump said about barack obama, having some hidden agenda when it comes to dealing with cop killing, that is horrible. he did it again as he did it again about the killing down in orlando. he said there's something going on here. you can't say that and walk away from it, oh, you figure out what i meant. >> i know what he means. that's where i disagree. country understands it as saying the president needs to set a tone like rudy tonight. >> there's something going on here. >> there are 900,000 law enforcement officers, they need the president to speak for them yuan latterly. >> it's not speaking consistently, objectively always for the men in blue, that's about 15 million people. >> it's not suggesting somehow
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he doesn't -- >> i do not hear that. >> i hear a man who said the attitude ought to be, all for the boys in blue. >> he said the same thing after the killings down in orlando, there's something going on here. what does he mean by those words? >> the president doesn't get it. his six words -- >> he doesn't get it. >> what does it mean he knows more about it than we know. >> e means he does not get it. >> he said he knows more about it than we know. >> he knows in nice, there's a failure of intelligence. he knows in bangladesh there's worldwide attack. >> the republicans interpretation, i don't know anybody who didn't here spookiens and music playing when the -- when trump says again and again, nobody knew this guy in school, he has doesn't have a birth certificate. >> america is hearing president disconnected from the reality of the america. >> i'm right you're wrong. >> i hate -- >> i'm totally wrong in this one. i thought it was a hell of a
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speech by rudy, we agree on that. i thought the tone was street wise, don't mess with america, that's a good point to it. >> jacob's office, on the floor with a special guest. >> i'm here with wisconsin governor, governor walker what do you make of what you've seen. i thought it was great. i thought mrs. trump was outstanding. i hope we hear more of that from his family in the next couple of days. right now we're hearing from jim, who he and other personnel were in the indictment. >> positive and the contrary. >> you walked back here support for donald trump, are you hear as a supporter or are you hear because you are a republican and loyal republic. >> i think there's a clear contrast. i said literally almost a year ago in this arena i thought any of the republicans were better than hillary clinton, obviously, donald trump wasn't my first choice, i was my first choice. i think it's a clear it's a much better future for america with
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donald trump as president. >> what did you make of rudy's speech? >> i think the best one -- i thought he made a clear indictment. i think the best speech of the night was mrs. trump, she talked about the donald trump that she knows, who wants to fight for everyone in this country, i think the more people who hear that, the better. that's what i told him a couple of weeks ago, the more he can lay out the contrary and how he's going to make the lives of every day citizens better, the better off he'll be. >> there were many unhappy delegation they wanted that role call vote to over turn the rules what do you make of the state of the party, do you feel like there's disunity. >> i think there will be debate. i think it's clear for any republican republican here and watching, we're scared to death about what the future will be as hillary clinton. i think the fbi report, i wouldn't give her the password to my iphone, let alone classified information. it showed us repeatedly that she
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lied. i think she's unfit to be president. and the more we here about a positive vision for the future, which i think we'll hear from the family and then on thursday from donald trump. >> we'll hear the three words, president donald trump, what do you think. >> a lot of americans we've had it with washington, you know, the well connect in washington are firmly lined up behind hillary clinton, i think they want someone is going to look out for them and stand up for them. >> thank you, sir. >> governor walker, thank you very much. i think we're going to take one final break. we've got a few mr. speakers including iowa senator to look forward to. program is still going, stay with us.
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♪ in case you're just joining us, this is how donald trump, the presumptive nominee was first presented to the convention tonight. "we are the champions" by queen playing in the background. the imagery of the lights coming up and milania trump joined him after the briefest of -- >> yeah. >> said we're going to win so
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big, we're going to win so big, we're going to win so big. absorbed the applause and i would like to introduce you to the next first lady of the united states. >> very brief. >> he's very savvy, reminding people what he looks like. reminding people that he's there. reminding he's the flesh and blood thing they are there to do in terms of the business of this convention. i think we didn't know what it was going to be like because nominees don't typically do this. i think it was very effective for trump to do that tonight. >> otherwise, the hall has been listening to lieutenant general flynn, the general who spent a little bit of time in the limelight as being on the short list, the finalists for vice president. he has been giving a firy speech to this convention, retired u.s. army lieutenant general, former director of the d.i.a., the defense intelligence agency.
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again, giving a powerful speech and we're waiting for iowa senator. >> there's an interesting thing that's happened with this convention tonight, obviously, we've had several veterans speak tonight. we've had military families represented tonight, including some who lost family members in wartime, terrorists attacks. senator joanny earnst is going to be speaking. one of the things republicans have said about this convention, they were going to have the first female combat veteran of this veteran speaking tonight who donald trump supported, they ended up dropping her after they previously listed her name as somebody who was going to be speaking. they dropped her name after the rnc platform unexpectedly included a plank that says that women should not be allowed to serve in combat. that made it awkward to have a female combat veteran there.
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mike pence has been out spoken not just women in combat, but women serving in the military. he said they should not serve in combat, or support units they should not be allowed to do basic training alongside men. buzz feed recently, today, dug up one of his columns he cited the disney film mulan that said that proved to him, women in the military; bad idea. we're about to have a woman iraq war veteran joany speaking here tonight. that's awkward. we never should have intervened in lib yachlt we never should have gone in -- when mike pence has that position. i don't know that they feel this tension about these policies and what they're putting on what stage, but that's evident tonight, too. >> well, you know, that's the
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way it is. mike pence has a long record. and his record does not comport with donald trump's positions on many issues and also with the party platform. >> and even the plans for the convention. >> yeah. >> so they'll have to deal with that. i think not bring it up is probably what they'll do. >> we've got to go to mike murphy, who has been patient with waiting for us in cleveland. make is a veteran, by our account, 26 successful senatorle campaigns. most recently, he -- what is you're welcome pinch yourself level, these days in cleveland? >> i'm sorry, brian, i've attracted a drum squad here on the midnight shift. but i would say that milania, i thought, did quite well. and think there are lessons in donald trump for what she said. she had an affirmative speech about positive vision of the
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country. other than the david copperfield blue smoke stuff, i thought all and all the last hour has been pretty effective. >> precopperfield h what did you make of the tone, tenor of this first night. >> i thought it started a little wobbly after they got into it. when we got into prime time, marcus latrel was good. i thought the benghazi victim's mother was extremely raw and that is dangerous in politics. when we got to the politics, i thought they went very well. i thought she did well. i think the country is going to like her. i think donald should learn from her tone. one of the vantages this was one of the first time he there's been a big pitch for trump by credible people rather than just trump doing trump which has limited appeal. so we'll see if the campaign can involve this direction. i'm still a trump skeptic but i
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think it helps him a lot. >> i've been trying to figure out if this might be one of the speeches that's kind of a war shock test, where how you saw that speech tells you more about yourself than it does about the speech, the speech, per se. i mean, we heard chris matthews and hue hue et et thought it was effective. gene robinson felt like he was going to bite the head off a bat if he went on much further. i thought it seemed completely crazy, that speech, in a way tlafs uncomfortable making and i felt like not appealing. what explains the difference in the way these things saying. >> are you referring to the benghazi victim's mother. >> no, rudy, mayor guliani. >> you know, we're in such a
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polarized political environment i think both sides will dig in. republicans will like a lot of the republicans stuff. what i think those swing voters in the middle who hold the power of the election thing, right now donald trump has uphill climb there. i think the two questions are, do these surrogates talking about trump or issues that are -- foreign policy issues that's pretty tough for hillary, do they move those voters. everybody else is going to be dug in. and i thought it was a mixed night. i thought some were more effective than others. being on the foreign policy space is a pretty good thing. i think hillary clinton has a lot of vuner abilities there. the bottom line is it's going to be how well trump does in evolving to a message that attracts people outside the republican primary electorate. he doesn't do that, he'll be toast. >> sorry about the drum line. i keep telling our folks to look
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into the indoor studio. >> thank you, guys, it was good to trauk talk to you. >> thank you. we'll be talking to you along the way. this first night of the republican convention, -- make safe again. that's what we've been seeing from the podium. and as we start a new hour, we'll be going out to cleveland. the end of tonight's program by our schedule and by all official accounts will be iowa republican senator joni ernst. again, the subplot of tonight -- make america safe again. >> one of the interesting things to watch -- we had had some reporting today that republican officials were worried that, particularly after melania trump, that the hall might empty out. we are seeing some empty seats there. we also had an interesting window on some empty seats earlier when we had a couple of code pink protesters. code pink protester interrupted jeff sessions first and then

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