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"lock her up" does not translate particularly well. you go back to that 1992 convention speech by pat buchanan in the hall, very popular, at home, not so much. i think that chant is not helping the cause. >> it's also important that we're getting it from the crowd, spontaneously, but we're also getting it from the podium. we're getting people saying lock her up, she ought to be in stripes. encouraging we're seeing preprinted signs. >> guilty or not guilty. >> chris christie invited it by setting it up. >> this is not something that's happening in the crowd that they're not controlling. they're pulling this out of the crowd. >> we are still yet to hear any sort of elaborated picture. i have not heard that from anybody. >> we heard donald trump, the man, from tiffany trump. and momentarily we'll hear from
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donald trump, jr., presumably we'll get more of that. we don't expect from either of those speeches that what we'll get. >> let's go to hewitt. does it feel more like the heart of the order to you. >> big turn around, brian. 40 days ago the cavaliers were down 3-1 and they executed a historic turn around. i thought when the general got up there and started talking, he began the end of a very bad 20 hours for the trump campaign and through speaker ryan and leader mcconnell, but especially with chris christie, i have to disagree. i think it's communicating a reaction to hillary clinton's the two laws, the rules that apply to the clintons and the rule this is that apply to everybody else. they mean, come on, one set of rules for everyone, very effective turn around executed by the republicans tonight. i think that moe tementum will up next hour.
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>> criticism from trump. for mcconnell his praise of hillary clinton. >> of course, you're always going to have a mixed record with the republicans speaker led ryan republicans, nevertheless where they were two hours ago was a lot worse on messaging than they are right now. chris christie lit up the house and the cue. and i'll go back to what chris matthews said earlier when he was talking to rudy. he said if it was me i will be in jail that's part of the turn around that got executed. i'm quite happy that wants trump to beat hillary clinton with two hours has gone. >> when parties last gathered, i want to read you the tweet from hillary clinton, if you think chris christie can let your own ethics, we have a bridge to sell you, your reaction. >> i don't think that's very effective. they don't want to talk about honesty, while he did not
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recommend that indictment, the congress referred a perjury charge the next day that will go through the benghazi committee, he exploited, we're talking about each of libya, the russian reset button. the case that donald trump is going to bring later in this week is going to be effective and it got started tonight. >> you have to admit, with chris christie as the conveyer of this message, but the guilty, guilty, guilty, i mean, this convention also started with his appointee to the port authority pleading guilty to felony charges. it came out of the bridge gate scandal. >> it did happen. >> so it's true. >> i don't admit that there's any double side at all. >> we're going to go to donald trump, jr. at the podium. >> five young children, from two-year-old kloe to kie who
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just turned nine. and the son of a great man. i'm an american. and tonight i want to talk to you about the country we live in, the country our children will grow up in. from my generation this is the most important election of our lifetime. one that will determine if the future of our country and in turn the future of the world. for too long our country has ignored its problems, pumping it down the road for future generations to deal with. in business i was trained by my father to make the tough investment and decisions today to ensure a brighter future tomorrow. we actually started to believe that solving our great problems is an impossible task. that's why we need to elect a man who has a track record of accomplishing the impossible.
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for the first time parents no longer think their kids will be as well off as we were, we've lost the confidence in our leaders and the faith in our institutions. remember one thing, we're still americans we're still one country and we're going to get it all back. . we're going to get it back better than ever before. i know we'll get it back because i know my father. i know that when people tell him it can't be done, that guarantees that he gets it done. . i know that when someone tells him that something is impossible, that's what triggers him into action. when people told him it was impossible for a boy from queens to go to manhattan and take on developers from the big city, rather than give up, he changed the skyline of new york.
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. i've seen it time and time again that look in his eyes when someone says it can't be done. i saw that look a little over a year ago when he was told he couldn't possibly succeed in politics, yes, he did. for my father impossible is just the starting point. that's how he approaches his business projects and life. whether it's teaching his granddaughter how to swing a golf club or tackling the toughest negotiations, he's always fully committed. that's why the person who had never run for office before stood on the stage 11 months ago in this very arena with 16 professional politicians and this week that same man will stand before you as party's nominee for the president of the united states of america.
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. as a proud son and family member, it was one of the great honors of my life, to be able to put him over the top in the delegate count earlier today. . his unrelented determination is why he's going to become our next president and why i know that when my father says he can fix the country, he means it. you want to know what kind of president he'll be, let me tell you how he ran his businesses and i know because i was there with him by his side on job sites, in conference rooms from the time i could walk. he didn't hide out behind some desk in an executive suite, he spent his career with regular americans. he hung out with the guys on construction sites, pouring sheetrock and hanging -- pouring
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concrete and hanging sheetrock. he listened to them and he valued their opinions as much and often more than the guys from harvard and warden locked away in offices, away from the real work. he's recognized the talent and the drive that all americans have. he's promoted people based on their character, their street smarts and their work ethic, not simply paper credentials. to this day many of the top executives in our company are individuals that started out in positions that were blue collar but he saw something in them and he pushed them to succeed. his true gift as a leader is that he sees the potential in people that they don't even see in themselves. the potential that other executives will overlook because their resumes don't include the name of fancy colleges and degrees. i know he values those workers and those qualities in people, because those are the individuals he had my siblings
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and me work under when we started out, that he would trust his own children's formative years to these men and women says all you need to know about donald trump. . we didn't learn from mbas. we learned from people who had doctorates in common sense. . guys like vinny who taught us how to drive heavy equipment operate tractors and chainsaws who worked his way through the ranks to become an entrusted father. it's why the only children of billionaires as comfortable as caterpillar as we are in our own cars. my father knew that those were the guys and gals that would teach us the dignity of hard work from a very young age. he knows that the heart of the american dream is the idea that whoever we are, wherever we're from, we can get ahead, where
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everyone can prosper together. . the other party also tells us they believe in the american dream, they say we should worry about economic inequality and impossibility. you know what, they're right. but they don't tell you that it was their policies that caused the problem and it was their policies that have no accountabili accountability. they gave us the worst immigration system in the world. one that drives down employment and wages for hispanic americans for african-americans and for everyone. an immigration system that favors illegals over those trying to go through the process legally and at times even over law abiding citizens. it was bernie sanders himself who warned that a large tide of new workers keeps wages low and
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poverty high. the other party gave us public schools that far too often fail our students, especially those who have no options. growing up my siblings and i, we were truly fortunate to have choices and options that others don't have. we want all americans to have those same opportunities. our schools use to be an elevator to the middle class, now they're stalled ton the ground floor. they're like soviet department stores that are run for the benefits of the clerks and not the customers for the teachers and administrators and not the students. you know why other countries do better in k through 12, they let parents choose where to send their own children to school. that's called competition. it's called the free market. and it's what the other party fears.
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. they fear it because they're more concerned about protecting the jobs of teachers than serving the students in desperate need of a good education. they tell us they're the experts and they know what's best. the other party gave us a regulatory state on steroids. dodd frank was a thousand pages long it's spun off 22,000 pages in regulations. . imagine trying to digest all of that before you even open your doors for business. that doesn't help consumers, what it does it destroys small business, who can avoid the vast number of lawyers and accountants needed to comply.
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dodd frank is for billion nears of any country at any time in world history. it's composed of self satisfied people at the top, new aristocrats. we can't live that way any longer, it's too risky. i've spent many times with many great americans who have served this country in the military and they know what's at stake. they're less safe. you know, almost daily i get a call or text from real american hero. he was part of the security team. he was one of the men who received frantic phone calls from his buddies, calls that pleaded for help. calls that he and his teams tried to answer.
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the calls that didn't save all his friends, because secretary clinton state that ignored their request for help, both on the night in question and even in the weeks and months leading up to the attack. it's a tragedy and one that would be repeated. ask mark who is fit to lead, who has the judgment to lead, who will take that call at 3:00 in the morning, or better yet, ask yourselves if you were in mark's shoes that night, who would you rather call. . let me tell you something about risk, if hillary clinton were elected, she would be the first president who couldn't pass a
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basic background check. it's incredible. hillary clinton is a risk americans can't afford to take. she said issue executive orders to take away american's guns. she wants to appoint judges to abolish the second amendment. look at how effective those laws have been in inner city chicago. city with the toughest gun laws in our nation where 70 people were murdered last month alone and where over 34 american lives have been lost since this administration took office in 2009. those laws fail because criminals by definition don't follow laws. . she'll throw every possible obstacle in the path of safe reliable, affordable energy,
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produced in america, by americans, for american businesses and families, rather than being energy independence, our country will be forced to remain hold ant to those in the middle east. those are risks we can't afford to take. when we win, we're not going to have to. there's so much work to do. we will not accept the current state of our country because it's too hard to change, that's not the america i know. we're going to unleash the creative spirit, the energy of all americans. we're going to make our schools the best in the world for every single american of every single ethnicity and background. we're going to put americans first, all americans, not a special class of elites at the top. we're going to elect the president who will work with everyone, the past legislation that will make our country great
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again. a president who will give us a tax code that will free the american economy and special loopholes for the wealthy. a president who will give us a immigration law that gives them jobs. a president who will repeal and replace obama care and who will do it without destroying medicare for seniors as hillary clinton proposed. a president who knows we can't simply delete our problems, but that we have to tackle them head on. . a president who won't allow pc culture to put the safety and well being of our children and our loved ones at stake. a president who won't battle and pander to nations that shutter at the very thought of america's existence. a president more concerned with the safety and comfort of his fellow americans than the
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feelings of those hostile nations abroad who have given the option would wipe america off the face of this earth. . a president not beholding the special interest foreign and domestic and one who funded his entire primary run out of his own pocket just to prove it. a president who will secure and defend the borders of the united states and who will appoint judges who believe that freedom requires a limited government. a president who won't use the highest office in the land as a path to personal enrichment. a president whose actually created real jobs, who has actually signed the front of a paycheck and who doesn't just talk about it in theory. a president who has real people's families and livelihoods dependent upon his success and the success for his
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company for decades. a president who speaks his mind and not just behooves him to do so, who doesn't have to run a focus group or use data analytics to be able to form a simple opinion. who says what needs to be said and not just what you want to hear. . a president who will unleash the greatness in our nation and in all of us who will give the hardworking men and women who built this great country a voice, once again. that president can only be, my mentor, my best friend, my father, donald trump. when we elect him, we'll have done all of that, we will have made america great again.
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greater than ever before. [ applause ] . thank you and god bless. >> nailed it. absolutely nailed it by far the best speech of this convention in my view, not just the best speech by a relative, but the best speech by anyone, including all of the professional politicians. he's not just -- he's not just good at the first time, i think, braiding together the case for donald trump and republican orthodox in terms of policy, but delivered, as i say, better than the pros. we now know who in the trump family, at least thus far, is the best at reading the tell prompter. i just thought that was -- i thought that was excellent. >> my new conspiracy theory that this whole donald trump presidential campaign was just
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to set upset up don, jr. >> maybe it won't work for dad this year, but don, jr. is on it. >> he had his convention speech and he's launched. that was, i thought, a re real -- -- only two nights in the convention. . break out honestly. >> we've seen the speaker of the house, the senate majority leader, senators, governors, hands down the best speech for this convention and hands down, the singular best case for a donald trump presidency that anybody has offered for the entire duration of the campaign, that is out of ten, it's remarkable that somebody who is not a career politician, who does not speak like that for a living was able to do that, what a bravo performance.
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>> there will be criticism of him talking about aristocrats and the elites and the wealthy, you know, all of that. you know what, the criticism that inevitably will be overwhelmed how well it was gone. >> i think the only basis, is ideological. you can believe in i'd logically, in a different way of approaching the problem. >> there is ironny him talking about it as if he's not any part that we have in this country. >> with the working steps. >> that is certainly true. >> that's really small stuff. >> don't under estimate the power of the cultural con desengs, that many feel from the beltway, to new york city, to hollywood, millions of americans feel to culturally, he tapped into that speech. that was an effective political speech. and it was ineffective political
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speech for that 32% that haven't made a choice yet between these two candidates. >> let me ask you this since convention can rise and fall on the ability to ad lib as we've seen negatively so far this week. what do you think the democrats are doing. what edits are they making as they watch this television show along with us? >> whatever -- whatever plans the democrats have for next week, i don't think any plans have been altered or adjusted on the basis of what we have seen so far. as we look at donald trump coming into this convention, botched vp roll out, awkward 60 minutes interview, bad first night. not my view to the last hour with chris christie, with donald trump junior that we've seen the arrows start to go in the right direction from the communication perspective. now, all of these nights matter, the nights that really matter are the third night and the fourth night where we hear from the vice presidential nominee and ultimately the republican
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presidential. it's possible to have a convention that's a disaster, but you can have a great speech from the nominee, that's what we'll be remembered at the end of the day, but so far if you're the democrats, what you've seen is a lot of negative ity, you haven't seen a lot of hope or positive message gs. you haven't seen a lot of rationale besides the donald trump junior speech. it gives them opportunity to make adjustments to offer a message of change of going into the future. the same way that four years ago at the convention, mitt romney made the catastrophic mistake in his acceptance speech of not acknowledging the serviceman at war in afghanistan and the result of that were democrats embracing the military, flags all over the stage and they exploited that mistake all the way. we haven't seen something like that in this convention yet. but the negativity of this
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convention is focused on hillary clinton, creates green space for them to be more positive unless we start to see a change in direction. >> really, 100% negative until we got to tiffany trump and donald trump, jr. tonight. >> i would agree with you. i would argue that last time it was so negative and so dark, so scarey and gloom ridden, that it could be on a par with that romney mistake, if it's allowed to be. if this convention does not begin to offer a more positive message. >> yeah. sorry about that. >> i was going to say, it painted a picture of a very scarey world. i'm told we can go to kelly o'donnel right now on the floor of the convention who has a special guest with her, kelly. >> and it felt factual and it felt passionate and, you know, it's exactly the way i would prosecute the case against hillary clinton, and to extent
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donald wants to help do that. >> are you imperfect given the events were part of why you may not have gotten that position as the running mate. >> first off, i don't think you have any basis to know that, kelly. second, do we have hillary clinton calling me imperfect. you don't want to talk about the pot calling the kettle black. i'll put up my record on honesty, any day in the week and i would just give the secretary a warning, this is not a fight she wants to pick. >> you insighted this crowd to get on their feet, to say guilty over and over again. do you think that is unifying the party in a way that's good for the country? >> yes, yes i do. and i think you do, too. >> well, governor, do you think that you will be in this role for donald trump in a way that is different than anyone else in his circle, as a former u.s.
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attorney, to be able to fight this case on all of those points, is this the job you want? >> listen, the job i want is what i have, which is chairman of this transition and helping to put together as government. but, you know, listen, i've always said, i was born to do anything reasonable to help get elected president. and these skills are a bit unique that i have compared to the other people, if he wants to utilize those skills that's something we can talk about. >> appreciate it. >> kelly o'donnel with governor chris christie and mary pat christie on the floor of the convention. >> i mentioned and i got a real rise when i brought this up earlier, the point he was asking about there, is a real thing. as donald trump was saying publicly that chris christie was on his final list of three potential choices for the vice president si. as he was publicly saying that he was undecided and chris
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christie was saying, including nicole wallace that he wanted the job, he was hoping for the job. he had not heard from the trump campaign as to whether or not he was going to get the running mate job, at that time his mentor in new jersey politics was pleading guilty to a felony and information that came out of the bridge investigation, there are two other highly ranked christie aids who are still on trial, another one has spent a third, a pled guilty, cooperating with prosecutes. the criminal investigation has cost chris christie a lot politically and i think it's naive and -- potential running mate, leading proceedings, and i will also say that, i would also say that this is not going in new jersey, it's effective, his
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approval rating it's in his state. so him getting the prosecutor's job makes since in terms of his resume, it doesn't make sense, i think that's for real. i think kelly asked a good question there. >> he was among those reporting on the speech by mrs. trump. robert, that continued today that would surprise it ate up a new cycle. >> i was not surprised. because the trump campaign took some time figuring out how to respond to this. they were elated following melania's and. and morning. we've -- former and bush administration. -- and discarded some other people in the trump -- and will
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make changes scared straight element that will perhaps lead to more super structure around the campaign. >> at this time, brian, all my reporting indicates that it's not ready personnel changes, in fact, because the family, mrs. trump, son-in-law, and other people in the trump family have been involved in the speech writing process both for mrs. trump and for donald trump. there's reluctance to make any move, at least at this moment. >> has anyone talked about how tonight is playing in their view. >> there's a sense that this is introducing trump to the country, but they know they also have to connect to conservatives that's why you see mike pence, the running mate sitting rite now with the family box with the trump family. you had donald trump, jr. not just talk about his father's
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business career, but framed him as a conservative. this is a reluctant audience, it's still getting to know donald trump at ideological level. >> yeah, what happened tonight, al be it with the alaskan delegation after so many reports of disharmony, that could not have played well, we will all dwelling on it. it was, as a practical matter, backing up the prime time television schedule. >> some of the biggest stories here, are the people who will have chosen not to attend. or those who are spoiling for a fight on the convention floor. you look at some of the seats here in the arena. they're empty, you talk to some of these delegates, they're for other conservatives, even at this time as donald trump is preparing to accept the nomination, they describe him as someone who hasn't come up through the republican party, they think of themselves either as conservatives or party people and they want to see trump earn their trust.
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>> the other positive thing that's happened tonight for the trump campaign is the speech by donald trump, jr., which, at least, onset, we felt that he hit it out of the park, that it was not just a good speech, but it was an excellent speech, well written and very well delivered. did the trump campaign, from your reporting, do you know if they were thinking of donald trump, jr. as a secret weapon? was this an unexpected benefit to them that he did so well tonight? >> this is something, rachel, that's developed over the past year. if you asked me a year ago when i started covering donald trump's campaign with don, jr., the essential part of the ca campai campaign, i would have told you know. he's guided his father. he grew close to newt gingrich who guided donald trump on that decision. you see him as a surrogate. this is someone who has the instincts of political animal and it wasn't always apparent
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early on. >> it is always a pleasure to be able to talk to you, thanks for your reporting last night, thanks for your reporting tonight. and in the future, senator capitol of west virginia is ardiar addressing the convention now. we're going to take a break. when we come back the count down to ben carson, one of the featured speeches tonight.
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we're back. let's get back to one of the main events on stage.
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>> you know, i devoted my career to studying and operating on the human brain. this remarkable oregon defines our humanity, it gives us the ability to not only feel and observe, but to reason when we elect a president, we need to use that power of reasoning. to look at their history, their character, what kind of people they really are, it makes all the difference in the world for us. and it is going to be so critical right now. we must resist the temptation, to take the easy way out and to passively accept what is fed to us by the politically elite and the media. they don't know what they're talking about. but they have an agenda. now, we must also be weery of the narrative that's being advanced by some in our own
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party the notion that hillary clinton administration wouldn't be that bad, the effects would only be temporary, that it would only last for four and at most eight years. they're not using their god given brain to think about what they're saying because it won't be for eight years, because she will be appointing people that will have an effect on us for generations that america will never be recovering from that, that's what we have to be thinking about. . interestingly enough, we have to start thinking about what would hillary clinton do if she was, in fact, president. she would appoint supreme court justices. she would appoint federal judges and that would have a dell tear you effect on what happens for
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generations to come. not only that, but she would continue with a system that denigrates the education of our young people, putting them in a place where they're never going to be able to get a job, where they're always going to be dependent and where they can therefore be cultivated for their votes. this is not what america is all about, this kind of deception. and this is what we, the people, have the necessary obligation to fight. . now, one of the things that i have learned about hillary clinton is that one of her heroes, her mentors was saul. and her senior thesis was about
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saul. this was someone that she greatly admired and that effected all of her philosophies subsequently. now, interestingly enough, let me tell you something about saul, he wrote a book called rules for radicals. on the dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer the original radical who gained his own kingdom. now think about that. this is a nation where our founding document the declaration of independent talked about certain rights that come from our creator. this is a nation where our says we are one nation under god [ applause ] this is a nation where every coin in our pocket and every bill in our wallet says, "in god
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we trust," so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer, think about that. the secular progressive agenda is antethet cal to the principles to the founding of this nation, and if we continued to allow them to take god out of our lives, god will remove himself from us. we will not be blessed and our nation will go down the tubes. we will be responsible for that. we don't want that to happen. now, donald trump, he understands this very well. he understands that the blessings that this nation konl with the responsibility to ensure that they are available to all, not just the privileged few. this exemplified by his
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willingness to take on the establishment against all odds. it is evident for his passion in the american worker. it's found to put his considerable skills to work on behalf of american interest, not his self interest. i'm proud to support donald trump. extraordinary businessman, the right leader for a time such as this. it is not about donald trump, it is not about me. it is about we, the people. thomas jefferson said that we would reach this point, because we the people would not be paying attention and it would allow the government to grow to expand and to me tast size and try to rule us. he said, before we turn into something else, we, the people, would recognize what was going on, what we were about to lose
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and we would rise up and we would take control of our nation and i say now is the time for us to rise up and take america back. >> carson giving a way off prompter speech. he had his prepared remarks, the prepared remarks did not include reference to either lucifer or saul, we're seeing, what i believe, a code pink protest here, with other attendees covering up the protesters face with american flags. but these code pink protesters do tend to be scrappy. >> scrappy is that couple right there. >> there's been a couple code pink protesters so far.
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this is the third one we've caught with our camera. you can hear the band in the venue have started up. there is only one other scheduled speaker this evening who is an actor and avocado. brian williams thought i was kidding, i was not. ben carson ripped a hole in the script there. >> well, he said hillary clinton was disciple of devil worshipper, basically. . he went off script. he believes in literal interpretation of script which you are. >> if not of the second night programming. >> when you're running a campaign, you're sitting backstage and you're following a long reading of the text. when you see saul and lucifer,
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oh my. >> i accused you of sarcasm in calling it a convention landmark that we had two bold and beautiful. >> i'm a fan of the bold and the beautiful. >> it was a lock moment. >> and do it with a straight face. >> i haven't had a straight face since i was 16. >> peter alexander has often had a straight face and he's on the floor of the convention for us. >> brian rachel, good evening to you, we're with anna of reality tv fame, she was on the first season of the apprentice. you've known donald trump for 13 years. i know, officially, you're the head of african-american out reach for the trump campaign, a poll that came out recently showed that trump in ohio and pennsylvania gets zero percent with african-americans, is that a number he's able to turn around.
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>> it's not a number that i agree with, first and foremost, if you look at the poll it's ridiculous. if you look at the primary voters you saw how substantial our minority turn out was, with latinos and we expect that trend to continue, but we do have a lot of work to do, that's the job i'm tasked with, to make sure folks now inclusive we are and that they are welcome in this campaign and that he's going to work hard for their vote. that's very important. >> it's been as much a pageant about a party as it's been about the family, six trumps, including donald trump the nominee will be speaking this week, of course, that's trumps than there are nielghts of this. are you satisfied with the way the campaign is handling it. >> i'm sure, you know, talked about the controversy, so let me
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talk about the human being that melania, barron, he is adorable and he is a fine young man more importantly the work she does with children charities. i think all of that was lost. i don't want -- >> to personalize her husband, was that lost? >> i think it's important for you to recognize, she does it her way, that's important that she does it her way and talk about her husband in her way. you know what, quite frankly, we're moving on. this is a mother that stood in front of 30 million americans and she had to give a speech. that's not easy to do. i applaud her for her courage to do that i hope we can all move on. >> we hope you have seen the way that donald trump has been viewed in parts of this country celebrated by some, despised by others. what does he need to say thursday night to bring in an audience of voters that may, it's hard to imagine these people still exist. may be undesited in someway, one
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way or the other. >> i meet them, i talk to them. >> what does he have to say. >> he has to connect with them. donald trump is bigger than life. voting is a very personal, very spernl decision. he has to take that big bravado and bring it down to an individual connection. he has to connect with folks on those types of issues, and very personal way. that's what he has to do. >> it's always a pleasure to be with you. brian, rachel, back to you. >> thanks to hue hewitt before we lose this quarter hour, an interesting night, especially in the latter half of the night. >> very much, single best line is chris christie saying hillary would be all the failures of the obama years with less charm and
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more lines. >> how about that. >> because it was terrific. it was out of the park. he brought the crowd to the feet talking about choice, he talked about his dad. he prosecutored the case against hillary clinton as well by bringing out the benghazi survivor who calls him every day. i will say that tonight families around america, peep are going to say that can that be true about a man who raised these children. tiffany and donald, jr. that oos the under mining that's going on here of the basic clinton argument. against the two rules clinton, they have their own set of rules. christie speech, the rudy speech. you've got these kids and you've got a platform that includes freedom like school choice and you've got ben carson saying, rise up, tea party time and i think -- i think they get a
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brexit, i think of the black swans that have happened all over this cycle. i think to myself, maybe he's kind of turn out model that we don't pole very well. >> i think the line of the night was by rachle. that's neither here nor there. my last question to you has to do with the nation turning its lonely ear it is to you. when productivity ceases in america tomorrow because people are running from their vehicles in their streets and towns to get to a radio to hear hue hewitt who will your lead be. >> don trump, jr.? he's the lead tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. across the country. i'll be playing excerpts from that speech. i'll find chris matthews interview with rudy, they prosecutored the case late, but they close with fury and effectiveness, with a complete rejoiner to everything that hillary to be hordering and the two rules they're on their heels
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tonight. they made it guilty, not guilty, guilty came back. that's going to leave a mark. >> thank you. >> i want to go to the podium. >> can we get it. >> sure. >> we're on our way to a break. any way, we're going to a break, as you might know, we'll talk about our speaker when we come back.
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comments are comments of convenience only. if we're to prosper as a nation, if we're going to grow the economy and create jobs, we need a leader who will go to washington and shake things up, a ps who will bring common sense regulations and eliminate unnecessary ones, who will fix our tax system. who will start us on the path to rebuild our infrastructure. we need someone who knows how to build things, who knows how to create jobs and who knows how to negotiate. he's going to tackle problems head on, ladies and gentlemen, so we can have true progress.
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>> final speaker of the night, kimberlin brown. they're having a little bit of the same problem, they have programmed things in such a way that the final speakers, particularly, ms. brown, unfortunately are addressing a room that is pretty empty at this point and people are streaming for the exits. the republican convention did have the forsight to put her avocado backdrop. >> she opened her speech with a comment about -- she's an actress on bold and beautiful and young and wrestless. you can see there's a good shot. there are more people on the actual floor of the red car thet floor than there were at this time last night when the first night was wrapping up. you look at all the red backed seats around it and this is
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pretty much a done deal. . steve, there are professionals in your line of work who do nothing but organize conventions, consult on scheduling you can go back and anticipate who is going to get the rousing kind of evening ending response. >> we're in a prime time hour on the networks here, it is 9:55 in the central time zone, where there are a number of key swing states. it is 7:55 out on the west coast. and it is remarkable that they are not on top of the schedule. it is ending early by five minutes when they fell behind by 20 minutes in the 8:00 hour. the speakers in order are not aligned to make a maximum impact, to have an argument.
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part of what you want to do here is you want to have chapter one, followed by chapter, two, three, four, five, six, sequentially building a case, building an argument. you don't want chapter six followed by chapter lerch by chapter 14, 19, 23, out of order doesn't make sense, try to tell a narrative story or try to build an narrative arc. they've not done that over these first two nights. >> you'll want him to hit the standing ovation end of his speech right now if you had planned to. >> at 9:00, the rachel maddox show begins you want to come out of this exactly on time. >> really weird to go to lawrence o'donnel. we're going to take another break and come back at the top
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of another hour of our coverage and talk more about the republican convention in cleveland.
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if you do what you love, hold nothing back, and never let fear of failure get in the way, then you've pretty much figured out the trump formula. >> i know that when people tell him it can't be done, that guarantees that he gets it done. i know that when someone tells him that something is impossible, that's what triggers him into action. and this week, that same man will stand before you as our party's nominee for the president of the united states of america.

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