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understand what nationalism is in this country. nationallism is particularly about illegal immigration, cultural change and the dangers people see in that whether it's real or notions about rapists, all of that, that nonsense, but i think there was something new in it which was very unrepublican. republicans have been moderate over the years on immigration, free trade. they have been hawkish. this man has taken over the republican party. he said the hell with that. no more neocons, nation building, which w basically created. good-bye to free trade agreements which george bush sr. basically began. with nafta, he was the author of that. good-bye to all of that. it's an extraordinary transition in a party in one year.
it did have two things in it you may not like at all. one was anger, practiced or inability to deal with the teleprompter, i think that was the latter. inability to continue through with the cadence. ivanka, her elocution was speech school. every word was pronounced beautifully and exquisitely. she understood the flow of the words, the paragraphing and she worked it as a professional. i again will go back to john voigt's reading. they should use him in their commercials. his voice was spectacular, calm, incredible. trump spoke with such anger you have to wonder was it purposeful or was it something he was doing to try to avoid getting out of cadence. i'll tell you one thing, if
anybody talks about hillary clinton's yelling, they have to talk about trump. if you go after hill try for yelling, you have to go after trump. >> chris matheus in cleveland. steve's here with us trying to monitor and pay attention to some of the reaction tonight. one of the thick that gets a lot of reaction on social media is the response to donald trump's speech is from david duke, the former klan leader. he says, great trump speech. america first. stop wars. defeat the corrupt elites. protect our borders. fair trade. couldn't have said it better, meaning couldn't have said it better myself. a lot of people i think who are critical of donald trump generally look at praise like that from somebody like donald duke and wonder if he is a gateway drug. if there is something beyond
donald trump himself, that means a much greater transformation of the republican party into something that is going to be new to mainstream. >> david duke is a disgusting figure. he's a racist, bigot, cancer on the body body politic. i don't think that has to do with donald trump. >> there's a pattern of people on the really, really far right, racist right saying trump is giving them room. >> i think donald trump would be well served to repudiate all of the racists and bigots. something he should do and do soon, make it crystal clear. i think there is another threat in this speech. the rise of donald trump could only have occurred in this era where trust has completely collapsed in nearly every institution in the country in the eyes of the american people. and one of the things we think
about that collapse of trust is the belief by so many americans that there's one set of rules for people at the top and there's a different set of rules for everybody else. he spoke powerfully to that. i disagree with our colleague joy reid a little bit on something she said. this wasn't a particularly ideologically speech. it was aimed at the group of the population that thinks they're disenfranchised by virtue of there being a set of rules for the powerful, for the elite, the corporations. it's remark annual when you hear the republican nominee attack directly big business in his speech. unprecedented for a republican speech. he's really up ended the policy orthodoxes of the republican party over the last generation. i think you look at the mood of the country, the number of people who think the country is on the right track. this was a powerful speech.
>> to me what was transgressive about the speech, not necessarily in a good way, is that instead of really offering policies with detail, we know what he's against, he offers himself. i am your voice. he offers a personal resolution. >> no system better than me. >> that to me is transgressive of the norms of american politi politics. >> yes. >> you offer a party, program, solutions. he offers himself. >> historian, author michael bechloss is waiting to talk to us in washington. michael, we know what we just witnessed is history but tell us how and in what ways. >> well, i think one thing is, brian, we've been hearing for a few days the speech was going to be modeled on richard nixon, 1968. there's been sort of a play with richard nixon and also ronald regan in 1980.
you're running against a party that owns the white house and you do it by certainly indicting it saying the country is not in great shape but at the same time being somewhat more presidential and getting people to like you. donald trump threw that entirely out the window tonight. what we saw tonight was a red meat indictment from beginning to end where the core of it was to essentially say you americans have all sorts of reasons to feel eke home in mickically insecure, militarily insecure, insecure in the streets and in your homes. i'm the only person who stands in a position to reverse that. it's something that we really haven't seen in modern times. >> yeah, something said during the speech tonight from bernie sanders, quote, i alone can fix this, referring to trump. senator sanders goes on to say, is this guy running for president or dictator? it was an often retweeted
sentiment during this speech. then there, michael, is the sheer math of it. 28th person nominated for president by the republican party. 70-year-old non-public office holder. >> breaks one record after another. and i think one of the other things that we're seeing tonight is that failure to pivot. we've been hearing for months perhaps he will pivot on the night of his acceptance speech. i think the headline tonight is no pivot. >> michael, how does this educate and inform the way we look at, the way we cover the democratic gathering now? >> well, i think one thing is to say the way donald trump handled this tonight is this just him or the way he's approaching this presidential campaign or has politics changed so much in this year that the democratic presidential nominee, hillary clinton, and whomever she chooses are going to have to, you know, take heed of that and
give a much more combative speech in return than otherwise they might have in a previous time. >> michael, can i just ask you about the gender issue actually that chris matthews raised that said because donald trump's speech was more than an hour along, a lot of it was red faced, it was angry, it was dark, it was about immigrants being released into our streets as if they're a foreign species, let alone foreign people. because it had those tones and the verbal cadence where he really delivered most of it at a yell, that that means people should stop complaining about hillary clinton yelling, is there any way for us to understand sort of the different lanes that men and women are afforded in tirerms of showing emotion, language. >> i think we are seeing those rules rewritten every hour. that's going to be one of the fascinating things over the next
three months. >> you said when ted cruz came out and did not endorse donald trump and then was booed off the stage, you said last night you've never seen anything quite like it. >> no. >> i wonder if over the last 24 hours come to mind that was like that or if that was unique? >> there's been a little bit of a wwe element to certain moments in this convention, and that was a little bit true tonight in that donald trump basically did not say i'm going to show you a different side of me that's softer, perhaps a little bit more centrist. we'll remind you of earlier presidents. the appeal tonight basically was you may not like me but you need me. >> michael, thank you very much for being with us here. it's always great to see you. let's go back to kelly o'donnell on the floor of the convention. kelly, i believe, has reconnected with her earlier undecided delegate. kelly? >> rachel, we've got the before and we got the after. we met amy newton earlier.
she is a mother of 4, a utah delegate and serves on the salt lake city council. we talked to you and you were hesitant a wanting to support the republican nominee, not entirely sure about donald trump. as we meet the utah sign has been taken down, the utah signs are everywhere. in that rather long speech did donald trump win you over? >> you know, i think it was interesting as he was speaking i just had this like realization that the reason so many of us didn't like him was because he was so open about some of the things, weaknesses, some things he had done before and he had this self-awareness about him that was really interesting, but i think that characteristic that we didn't like about him initially is also what i do like about him, which is that brutal honesty. tonight i loved what he -- when he talked about, you know, joked about knowing what bankruptcy -- how to get around that because he's done it. i loved that he was so brutally honest. i loved when he said not really
deserving the religious institutions. >> that felt like an ad lib and people responded. >> that felt so real. even what he mentioned about the lgbtq community and things we don't hear. >> did that touch you in a different way? >> it did. i actually got emotional when he was talking about that, especially his comment after about he loved how we responded to that. sometimes as republicans we get put in this corner. we didn't hear about poor people and we don't hear about the lgbtq community and we do. i think we saw that tonight and it was refreshing. >> can he represent you going forward? >> i think so. i mean, i definitely don't like the alternative of hillary clinton. like i said, the presidency is more than just the one person. the supreme court justices are huge and i like the brutal honesty. i think the american people are tired of sound bite and slick politicians and they want something different and i can see that now. >> thank you for sharing your thoughts and your sort of mental journey on this as well.
as a delegate from utah and someone who feels differently from donald trump after his four day convention has wrapped up. >> hearing from her in the first place was fascinating. hearing from her at the end of the night, that was reality, political television of the best time. fascinating. >> fascinating to hear from folks. mike murphy is outside having witnessed this. mike, we've covered your journey this season as well. you cast your lot deeply with jeb bush so did a lot of other people. that was where the smart money was a while back. what did you make of tonight? >> well, it wasn't really my brand of republican. i mean, it was a very authentic speech. it was very trumpian. so if you liked him before, you're going to like him more now. if you didn't like him before, you may not like him even more now. it was a very, very dark speech. darkest i can remember. it was a brutal speech. i had no idea we live in gotham
city and we need a caped vigilante. this was same old trump presenting a fair share of demagoguic material. i'm not sure he moved the ball forward beyond whatever appeal his style has. we will see. the democrats will have their chance in that first debate. i don't think it was a big number mover. he doubled down on what he's been doing. great in the primary. we'll see in the general election. >> mike, let me ask you, given that perspective, i'm definitely going to steal your gotham city line, i'm going to warn you in advance. that was good. >> that was good. >> from the opposite perspective, there was two elements of leavening. that was the ad lib after orlando, the lgbt community.
as a republican can't tell you how happy i am to hear you cheering me say that. thank you. there was also a moment when the crowd inevitably started yelling lock her up, lock her up. he calmly and lovely said, let's defeat her in november. >> yeah. >> those to me felt like ma sure, responsible notes of leavening in an otherwise dark speech. >> i agree with that. they were the two strong moments in the tone of the speech. one problem with trump, the reason some conservatives don't trust him, he has a history we republicans would say squishy, moderate positions but his tone is the opposite of moderate so they're in conflict. when he sounded more like his daughter, that was a more welcoming trump that would be a path to a i think more compelling change campaign than the i've got a list of foreigners and troublemakers, when i'm not building a wall i'm going to have a roundup. that locks him in the box. he committed to the speech and felt like the primary was still
going on. >> mike, not to push too hard on the gay issue which i want to do, it seems like it is carrying a lot of weight. a lot of people are putting a lot of importance on this issue with the idea that trump might be a more broadly appealing kind of candidate for the republicans. is that under cut at all by putting such a hard liner on that issue? mike pence on the ticket with him. i think mike pence is more identified than any other statewide elected official in the country with hard line anti-gay politics and hard line anti-gay history. is that going to be at all complicated if he tries to tread that path? >> trump is on the right path. pence is a strong social conservative but he's the side kick so it's more his problem to get where trump is than trump's problem that he picked somebody like that. it's very clear there's only one superstar in the trump orbit, only one sun in that galaxy. pence's opinions i don't think
are that important to trump. whether or not the democrats can make a wedge out of that to scare some voters, we will see. trump is not opening the door to the usual attacks on intolerance on gay issues. that's something i applaud. the problem is he is busy being intolerant on other things like muslims. >> mike murphy, your material is going to get used. >> mike, thanks. a break for us. when we come back, lawrence o'donnell has his nightly look at all things under review. heavy on rhetoric tonight, yes, but there were facts in that speech. we will hold them up to a bright light. >> important night for that, yes. >> friends, delegates and fellow americans, i humbly and gratefully accept your nomination for the presidency of
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i have visited laid off factory workers and the communities crushed by our horrible and unfair trade deals. these are the forgotten men and women of our country and they are forgotten, but they're not going to be forgotten long. these are people who work hard but no longer have a voice. i am your voice. >> that is the hoped for enduring quote from tonight. tomorrow morning's new york post, front page, i am your voice. for context, by the way, we looked up a year ago don voyage,
they thought he was out of the race. >> trump is toast after mccain not a war hero. that was a year ago was the mccain insult and that's the same paper. remarkable. can i note for a second, new york post owned by rupert mourdock, rupert mourdock as of tonight is the acting ceo with roger ailes moved out of that company, on the day that donald trump accepts the presidential nomination of the republican party. those two events, i know we've talked about this earlier, but it's hard to know depending on whether or not trump wins it's hard to know what this day will be looked at more for, ailes leaving or trump ascending. lawrence o'donnell is here? >> yes, i have some things we
say under review. >> under review. >> rupert mourdock one year ago was tweeting that donald trump should get out of the race and stop embarrassing himself and his family. >> how did that work out? >> based on the john mccain comments. >> you know, the conservative media and the conservative movement have become two different playing chips on the same monopoly board at this point. i have no idea how that's going to go through the election. lawrence, you have been looking at factual assumptions. >> the utah delegate said what she liked about the trump speech it wasn't the stuff of normal politicians. she said, quote, she's tired of sound bites and slick politicians. well, there were a lot of sound bites and very slick maneuvering in this speech. let's listen to what donald trump first said about violent crime in this country. it's where the speech began. >> i have a message for all of
you that the crime and violence that today a flikts our nation will soon, and i mean very soon, come to an end. >> how slick is that? that is the first politician to claim crime will end. >> looking fwoord to it. >> what that means is decline, reduced. of course it has already been reduced dramatically while our population has increased almost 100 million people. the crime rate under president obama is lower than under any previous president going back through republican presidents including ronald regan, dramatically lower. he very specifically, by the way, mentioned police officers killed in the line of duty on everyone's mind this summer as it should be. and what he doesn't seem to know is that police officers killed in the line of duty on average in a year during the obama presidency is a much lower
number than any previous presidency. this, by the way, was the very first presidential nominating speech to talk about that issue, to even talk about people killed by police -- police killed in the line of duty. there's a really big glaring omission. let's listen to donald trump talk about the border wall with mexico. >> we are going to build a great border wall to stop illegal immigration, to stop the gangs and the violence and to stop the drugs from pouring into our communities. >> we are going to build it sounds to me like the public works committee of the house and the senate because he never said mexico is going to pay for it and that crowd possibly
instructed never started to chant mexico is going to pay for it as they always do at trump rallies. this is a major pivot on one policy. absolutely no claim, no suggestion, no hint that mexico will pay for it. i don't know if we're going to hear him mention the idea of mexico paying for it again. of course, everyone knows that wasn't going to happen. now donald trump seems to know. another very, very big item here that he talked about, immigration and an omission here or a change. let's listen to what he said. >> we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. we don't want them in our country. >> you did not hear the word muslim in there. if that was the statement he made instead of a statement he made months ago when he walked
out and announced he was going to ban the entry of muslims, it would have been greeted very differently because this particular phrasing of it fits within constitutional limits as we understand it. there are things that you can do to restrict immigration from geographical areas. you cannot possibly limit it. we would need a long time to go through all of the economic stuff here. the shorthand version of it is the speech was basically i'm going to do the biggest tax cut in history. i'm going to increase spending like no president prior to me in recent times, therefore, dramatically increase the national debt beyond any calculation at this point. he has -- he's -- he says he's going to build roads, he's going to rebuild the military, he's going to fix the tsa. you fix the tsa by hiring people, that's spending money. as i say, he's talking about the
biggest tax cut, massive tax cut for the rich. and so no ability to finance the things he's talking about out of government revenues. massive, massive deficit spending was proposed in this speech. >> donald, with all the items under review. as you point out, we could keep going -- >> i could do another hour. i might do another hour at 10:00. >> lawrence, spectacularly done. steve schmidt, i want to get to something else before we take a break. that is something you talk about -- actually, we all talk about when it comes to presidential nominees. very hard to get at. hard to be anything but subjective about it but it's hugely important. that is the issue of whether or not we are supposed to like these guys, whether or not the presidential candidate seems likeable, whether that is, in fact, as important as we all apparently think it is and whether or not trump proved himself to be likeable at this convention.
>> i don't think donald trump comes across as particularly likeable. i think he's an outlier. i think in the presidential election it does matter with what candidate is perceived as more likeable. this race is unusual in the construct. we have the number one and number two most unpopular candidates in the history of american polling running for president against each other. and with trump and you see his delivery tonight, it is traditionally not an effective way to accumulate. depending how acute your sense of anxiety is, how acute your sense of danger in the country is, the fact is crime is at low levels historically but crime isn't an issue that people vote on based on the numbers, it's an issue they vote on based on how they feel. >> it's what was in this week's news. >> so i think that depending on how acute your sense of the crisis is, you know, is how you're able to look past some of the issues that trump has and
default to the strong leader side of it. >> it has nothing to do with who wins it. people who like hillary clinton are already with her and people who like donald trump already are doing that. they will not be embracing the person they ultimately decide to vote to. >> don't you think inevitably the democrats will invest in trying to make hillary clinton more likeable? >> you always should. it isn't going to convert the final three to four percent of voters. i like this person, here we go, i'll do this. >> let's remember to ask the question about the democratic nominee a week from tonight. >> right, exactly. in part, that's the work of the convention. >> egads. a break in our coverage. we'll be right back.
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this time the terrorist target lgbtq community. no good and we're going to stop it. as your president, i will do everything in my power to protect our lgbtq citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology. believe me. >> i have to say as a republican it is so nice to hear you
cheering for what i just said. thank you. >> that was so interesting. >> donald trump from tonight. part of the much talked about speech. he also, to be fair, talked for a long time. >> he did talk for a long time. putting those three clips together is really good. when it first came out and he started talking about lg -- it sounded like it was translated from morse code. i was a little worried. then he said the second thing he said where he mentioned, again, he talked about protecting the lgbtq community from foreign dangers, which is fine, but there are domestic dangers as well. and, again, his running mate is -- a lot of people believe one of them. but then the third point that he -- that we just showed there, that ad lib that he thanks the audience for cheering for that part of his speech. we know it was an ad lib at least based on his prepared speech.
people felt that was a warm moment. >> to chris matthews in the arena. >> i have robert acosta, joy reid and michael steel from the rnc chair now with us. i think we ought to do a quick roundtable here. my take was quick. it was a rouzi inin ining -- ro speech. he hit all the erogenous zones of his people. >> he showed moderate impulses. >> joy? >> i thought it was dark. there was no hope in it. >> what did you think of mike murphy saying it was gotham city? >> it was gothic. i described it as a cost between penny dreadful and the purge. i half expected to open the windows and see there's a distopian area and people
running through the streets. this was not directed at the whole country. when donald trump said i will be your voice, he meant a very particular kind of person who is ang angry, who sees the country as destroyed and distopian. >> what's distopian? >> the opposite of utopia. a heldsca hellscape. illegal immigrants are marauding through the streets. they live in a part of the country with the fewest black and brown people. >> they're just mad about people being here. >> they're angry. the speech was directed at him. >> your take? >> i have obviously a slightly different view of it. >> much bigger take. >> yeah. look, the speech read to me darker than it was delivered. i thought there was -- in the section i was sitting in there were a lot of people who weren't necessarily supportive of trump
or really questioning him and every time i watched them stand up to applaud something he said i went, that's another tick in his direction and i -- and i just figured that out across the country. i hear what you're saying, joy, but that speech reflects so much of what america feels right now. you know, a lot of people may not agree with that. you may not agree with that. i may not agree with that but there is this section, it is a larger section than a lot of us would like to admit and it is brown people, too, who feel that way. it's not just white folks that feel that way. donald trump in a way is trying to reach them and say, look, i get this. i get it. this sort of cultural pc environment that you find yourself in, you don't like it. i have i think a solution for that. we'll see how this plays out. i agree with you, for me it read dark. when i read it it was like,
okay, here we go. when he delivered it and i watched people respond to it. >> they already felt that way. people in the room are his audience. >> not everyone was his audience. >> conservatives. >> it's not just conservatives. >> it was destroyed by barack obama. don't say america feels this darkness because not everybody does. there's a part of the country that feels this darkness. if they feel so completely distraught and pessimistic why does -- >> every four years as a measure or meter of which way the election is going to go. this is dramatically negative. >> it was dramatically negative in 2012, too. >> what do you make of it? >> i think on the left among democrats the -- there isn't a sense that the country is an awful place, which is what i heard tonight. the country is a horrible place and only i can fix it. that's the message i heard. hold on.
i think that there are people -- >> that's part of bernie sanders message as well. the country's in an awful place because rich white people have taken over. your wages haven't gone up. you don't have a good job. that is as distopian. >> normally speeches have a lift to t. one of the things that was here, there is nothing to lift the country. you lift the country. there was no lifting here. >> there was a bit at the end. criticizing hillary clinton over her e-mails trump said that he alone can take on the powerful in washington. let's watch. >> when a secretary of state illegally stores her e-mails on a private server, deletes 33,000 of them so the authorities can't see her crime, puts our country at risk, lies about it in every
different form and faces no consequence, i know that corruption has reached a level like never, ever before in our country. i have joined the political arena so that the powerful can no longer beat up on people who cannot defend themselves nobody knows the system better than me. which is why i alone can fix it. >> that was an odd moment. cards kind of aside. you know? >> only me.
only me. >> you know me, i know how to play this game. >> everyone where i was sitting felt weird. between the look, the pause. >> the mugging. >> the pausing, just as a writer can i just -- pausing. you're a fellow writer. the speech was clearly not written in donald trump's voice, which was weird. he was reading a speech that was written by his team. >> he read it before. >> it didn't seem like he had read it. >> i'll be a speech coach for him? >> ivanka, ivanka -- >> i'm not in the cult of ivanka. >> you are alone. let me tell you, everything was beautifully almost poetically pronounced. her elocution was excellent. almost like she came out of a speech program at a great university. everything was -- i think she understood the rhythm of it, knew where to stop, the rhythm, paragraphing. he was out of sync with the
words. the audience didn't know how to respond to it. >> share a little reporting about the creation of this speech. written mostly by steven miller, a former aide to senator sessions of alabama. it's written in the cadence of jeff sessions. hard line populist who's an outsider in congress. trump has embraced the wing in the party. what you saw tonight was a billionaire, a brash new yorker who's moderate on social issues but knowing in this crowd he's going to go with the hard right that jeff sessions says in voice and policy. >> it's interesting you say that. this has a southern aristocrat particular delivery. it was formal. >> it was. it was. it had edouardian reaction.
>> he's reading -- >> let's define this. one thing we agree on. why did he use the phrase, rachel pointed this out earlier, why did he use the phrase with all of its implications, he didn't say let's support the laws. it was the phrase so nicksonian. >> that carries a racial tone. by the way, safe schools. the reason we'll have -- >> that's right. so you don't have the. johnson amendmt. a lot of these were signals people in the audience on the right will understand. remember, the johnson amendment was about some of the white churches invading against the civil rights act. >> trying to -- >> which were creative. don't have to go to public school. >> a lot of people appreciate that. >> really?
>> absolutely. what about when there was a protestor in the audience thinking through what he's going to say. usually when you see a protestor, he paused, he came back to police. >> we'll be back at 1:00. let's go back to brian and rachel. >> we're going to take a break. when we come back our tired, huddled masses, our road warriors on the floor of the convention. >> they're yearning to be free. the. >> the bus leaves at midnight. >> no grieving for you here.
we will make america strong again. we will make america proud again. we will make america safe again. and we will make america great again! god bless you and good night. i love you! >> the final windup in the closing minute of tonight's gop convention in cleveland. let's go to cleveland where chris matthews is standing by with the campaign chairman and speech. chris? >> you mentioned paul manafort, the campaign manager and steve does the introductions of the candidate on the road. >> i have a diverse role. give us a grade on the speech? >> it was an a. >> what do you give ivanka. >> a plus.
>> what do you give john -- >> a. >> three a's? >> three a's for you, too? >> a's across the board. >> i'm asking you for the home cooking. let me ask you about the anger in the candidate's voice. i've been thinking about the anger or he wanted to convey anger. i've seen trump mix it up, humor, ad libs, funny comments, nicknames. tonight i would say it was humorless and the power of anger. why was the message relentlessly the same tone, same attitude for the whole hour plus? >> well -- >> did you write an angry speech or he just delivered it angrily? >> if you listen to the audience, it was a speech with endless applause -- >> no humor. no fun. >> there was a lot of humorous 340e789s he had and a lot of sincere and touching moments, too. like, for instance, when he was
talking about his pledge to protect the safety of lgbtq city citizens. there's a lot of human, disarming moments in the speech that were quite remarkable. >> it is remarge markable. in 2004 you had don king and you had karl rove dealing with the african-american ministers of this county revving up the anti-gay marriage vote. that was the story of john kerry. >> there are a lot of touching moments. >> why the change? why pro gay rights. >> you said the term gay rights. never one agrees there are limits. >> the sentiment hasn't changed? >> everybody feels safe, protected and respected. >> the sentiment in this audience was not anti-gay at all, it was pro gay.
at least -- >> they came out tonight and in both moments he developed a response because of the individual rights. this is a party that contrary to the way it's sometimes presented is a pretty diverse party. some of the criticism against mr. trump during the primaries was that he was not conservative enough. but he'd always say he had certain positions being receila to the issues. in that speech he said, i'm not going to lie to you. unlike what happens traditionally in political speeches where people will pretend that things are better than they are, he said, i'm going to tell you the truth. the fact that you consider that somber, that's the reality of what's going on in america today because people are not feeling good about their country. >> somebody said it's not a sunny speech because it's not a sunny country. >> i got an e-mail after this speech from sabine gernon, one of the moms you mentioned.
she said, thank you so much for what happened to our families. i am crying through my eyes, barely can see the keyboard as i type now. doesn't that mother deserve to have one night in america where her needs come first? there was something profound and beautiful. >> describe her. >> sabine durbin. the mom who lost her child. there was no demonstrators on behalf of these victims. there's no special interests on behalf of these victims. i thought that was so touching and poignant. i've seen on stage the time he spent hugging and embracing these people. that comes from a very sincere place in his heart. >> the speech was a positive speech, too. near the beginning he was talking about his vision for america, going to stand up for all-americans. he laid out issue by issue the difference between hillary clinton and himself and what he was going to do to make a difference. he wasn't just offering a blue
perspective on the country. people already know that. what he was saying, yes, this is true, it's bleak. >> can i read you the part i liked? okay. we must abandoned the failed policy of nation building and regime change that hillary clinton pushed in iraq, libya, egypt and syria. will donald trump position himself from here to november as a candidate against those policies of regime change? >> absolutely. he has from the beginning. >> the assumption hillary will defend it. >> again, so much rich texture going on. donald trump positioned himself as a candidate who on the issue of trade and foreign policy sides with the great broad heart and soul. >> hillary clinton, illegal immigration, bad trade deals and stupid wars. >> if you think about how historic that is, you had a
republican nominee who said i'm going to prevent the loss of jobs and will focus on policies to keep america great. >> this is going back to the reagan era. before reagan and obama, since the 1990s we moved away from a policy that put america first to a policy that -- >> it's still floating around. >> the bush crowd believes in trade. bush sr., hw, he came out for nafta. clinton got it through. they got more apiece, the iraq war at least. they had the afghanistan relief. how do you move a party so dramatically to what it was so recently? >> well, first of all, we're running against hillary clinton. hillary clinton was an architect of the nation building programs that were mentioned in the speech in syria, egypt, libya
and in the obama/clinton administration, he had a very different approach than what donald trump is saying. that's our campaign. where he's going to move the country, this is not new tonight. we've been talking about this. >> i'm so glad you brought it up. i hope it is one of the most discussed and analyzed things. in the convention speech that we laid -- >> i think you and i agree on some things. this is frightening. >> is hillary a hawk? >> absolutely. i want to qualify myself -- >> are you going to call her a hawk? >> right. i want to be clear. >> she's more hawkish than others are? >> she believes the united states should have a progressive role in determining people's fate. >> she's a hawk when it comes to intervention. can only hope to build up our
missile defense but when it comes to nation building, yes. >> i think you're luring me in the trap. congratulations on the big speech. i thought it was a little haranguey for a long time. i felt like he didn't have a case and then i thought it had a rousing ending. steve miller? great paul manafort. thank you, brian and rachel. >> speaking of the rousing ending. the guests don't get any fresher than the speech writer. >> hours to go. >> then we've got philadelphia. >> a hillary clinton veep selection underway. lots to get to. (lock clicks)
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well, it's now 1:00 in the morning in cleveland and on the east coast. we have the highlights from tonight's grand finale of this four-day political jamboree. the republican national convention. the republican party donald trump just wrapped up the speech of his lifetime. he said he would make the country a country of law and order. he would pull the an end to the violence. he said the rigged political and economic system of our land. it was a very nationalistic speech in tune with his entire campaign. his targets included as usual, illegal immigration, bad trade deals and the nation building and foreign policy. in other words, the stupid wars. trump promised to protect americans from crime, terrorism and