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right now for more on the clinton bus tour. we'll be back monday. thanks for watching. get some rest. sayonara. >> "hardball" is next. war drums. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. tomorrow is saturday, marking the hundred day mark to election day. today marked the unofficial start of the presidential campaign. for donald trump it was another turning point. campaigning in colorado amid chants of "lock her up" trump promised a hard-hitting campaign. >> you know what?
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i have been saying -- i have been saying let's just beat her on november 8th but you know what? you know what? i'm start ting to agree with yo. every time i mention her, everyone screams lock her up, lock her up, they keep screaming. know what i do? i've been nice. but after watching this performance last night, such lies, i don't have to be so nice anymore. i'm taking the gloves off. right? yes? take the gloves off. take the gloves off. just remember this. trump is going to be no more mr. nice guy. >> well, this week showed that the democratic party has under gone a seismic shift in position. hillary clinton and her supporters displayed an unabashed upbeat patriotic optimism about the country. let's listen. >> now, we are clear-eyed about what our country is up against,
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but we are not afraid. we will rise to the challenge just as we always have. >> well, secretary clinton and tim kaine her running mate took that message to the people in the heart of steel country today. the folks in western pennsylvania and eastern ohio. some of the hardest hit, by the way, by the recession. they kept up the optimistic theme of the week in philly. >> the republican convention was like a twisted, negative tour. it wasn't a tour of this country. it was a journey through donald trump's mind and that is a very frightening place. that is a very frightening place. >> donald trump painted a picture, a negative, dark, divisive picture of a country in decline. i'm not telling you that everything is just peachy-keen. i'm telling you we have made progress but we have work to do if we're going to make sure everybody is included.
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>> isn't it great the words the democrats are using these days? peachy-keen and malarkey? i'm joined by nbc news correspondent kasie hunt who is on the clinton/kaine campaign bus. a new phrase to master. there you go. i can see the world passing right by you. >> reporter: you can, chris. we are in your native pennsylvania. we just stopped in hatfield, where they make, factory where they make lincoln logs which you may or may not remember. this is as you said, all about white working class voters, particularly men who of course have broken for donald trump lately in polling, and democrats acknowledge privately that pennsylvania is frankly more up for grabs than it has been in any of the more recent modern campaigns that we have experienced and that there is a risk for her in letting this state go. of course, you know well that eastern ohio is similar terrain to western pennsylvania. this bus tour is going to take
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us through harrisburg to pittsburgh, youngstown, cleveland, columbus. you and many of our viewers know the issues there well. they are places that are frankly, their economies have been structurally changed. there's a lot of people that can't find the manufacturing jobs they used to be able to. the pitch here from hillary clinton, she has to be a little careful. on the one hand she has to acknowledge the pain all these people are feeling. on the other hand, she feels like the message is more optimistic than trump. she is criticizing trump for being dark about the future of the country and is trying to send a more uplifting message. that's what we have seen here on the trail. she is also out of course with tim kaine. the two of them actually look pretty comfortable together on the stump. >> i noticed. >> reporter: i will be interested to hear your take on that. >> i'll tell you. i will give you my take. i have been watching like all of us, i have been watching for 40 years now. i can usually tell the difference between a political smile and a real one. tip o'neill was a different smile, the phony smile. they all have political smiles.
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but she seems to get a kick out of this guy. when he makes some comment about a weird journey to the mind of donald trump, she hears it as a fresh new political line that she's just not heard before and she seems to giggle at. like this is great. because she's heard all the old political malarkey. there's a phrase, a term not used in 30 years until joe biden used it. malarkey. what's the other one i heard? peachy-keen. >> reporter: peachy-keen. i haven't heard malarkey in awhile either. i think that's right. i think you could see onstage today in philadelphia, they are at ease, kind of physically with each other, and i'll tell you, it was really interesting to see bill clinton and anne holton, tim kaine's wife sitting on the corner of the stage. bill clinton not speaking at the podium, really kind of interesting optics to see that evolution of potentially if they win the white house, bill clinton as the first first gentleman. >> guess who rode along with bill clinton in his bus tour,
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first bus tour coming out of new york in 1992. guess who was riding with him and interviewing him? me. me. in 1992. it was great. it was clinton and gore. thank you, kasie hunt, for the lively on the road reporting. with me, radio talk show host hugh hewitt and "washington post" political reporter robert costa, both msnbc political analysts. hugh, i am always trying to figure you out and your interesting political positioning because you always talk to conservative radio listeners out there. where are you after these two -- i was overwhelmed by the democrats' manifest patriotism. there are patriot democrats of course and most of them are i assume, but i have never seen such a display. go ahead. i think they are positioning -- go ahead. >> at the start of these two
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weeks i didn't know we would be at the end of the two weeks and after the first lady spoke and was off the charts, that turned out to be the peak. i thought mrs. clinton gave a serviceable workmanlike, lumbering speech and donald trump outranked her in the ratings, then today comes the breaking news her campaign's been hacked across many news cycles. she got out of philadelphia but barely. i think donald trump is feeling very good about winning the ratings and winning the news cycle. >> i think captain khan's father and mother were the hit of the campaign so far. >> yes. in fact, very emotional, very connecting. i believe that every civilian owes every gold star mom and dad a great debt of gratitude and great deal of respect. they connected in the way that very few people could connect. i don't think it changes votes. i think when you get to hillary's speech, she's saying listen to what i say, don't look at what i did in egypt, in libya, in syria, in iraq. don't look at the russian reset
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button. don't look at my server. listen to my words and i don't think that will last long. we'll see who gets the bump. i don't think it will be very much for hillary clinton. >> you're a rough talker but you may have some truth there. i mean it. i'm listening to it, too. i didn't think it was a great speech from hillary clinton. i wondered almost -- let me go to robert. is there a theory about why she gave a plain-speaking, let's put it this way without value judgment. it was plain speaking yesterday. it didn't have, which she could have easily gotten from a speech writer, more lyricism, more uplift, more eleloquence. is there a reason she gave such a talk yesterday? >> most democrats i spoke to in philadelphia are not framing it as plain-spoken. they talked about the tone and temperament and delivery as something to directly appeal to these moderate republicans, these independents in the suburbs here in philly and elsewhere who may not like the way trump speaks, the way trump
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comes across. so what clinton wanted to do according to people close to her, her allies, is to protejec steadiness. >> it wasn't meant to be flowery, right? >> there's also an understanding i think around people close to clinton that flowery rhetoric, soaring rhetoric, that's never been her style. for someone who in politics has long been questioned in terms of her authenticity and how she comes across, this was a speech that was hillary clinton, who she is. someone who is seasoned in elected politics, seasoned in experience and presenting herself in that way. >> more workhorse than show horse. as you might expect, donald trump didn't like the speech. he probably did like it but didn't want to say so. here he is dumping all over hillary clinton's speech last night. >> i watched last night. i watched hillary clinton. what a sad, what a sad situation. and by the way, they're going to
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let some of these people i just was informed, they are going to let some of them meander in. meander. too bad. but i watched her last night giving a speech that was so average. >> let's try to get the theme of the country. let's try to do this completely down the middle. this is my question. i think they got it wrong. i think everything the democratic convention this week was beautifully choreographed. somebody ought to give credit to debbie wasserman schultz because everything this week from the elevation of the whole tone by michelle on monday to the character witnessing including that by her husband on tuesday, to the beautiful speech given by barack obama on wednesday, all the way up through until obviously the very strong closing argument by the secretary of state. all that was very well put together. yet, i think they missed on one truth. i don't think the country's afraid. i think it's angry. >> you are so right. >> i think they made a decision
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not to address anger and grievance. right as well as left. why do you think they chose the ground of we have nothing to fear but fear itself? rather than go after the anger which is incipient, i quoted william allen wright, the dissatisfaction of the american people is manifest. >> the anger is at insiderism and the clintons represent that. there are two big experiments under way. the democrats are trying a transference experiment. they will try and transfer the passion of the bernie people to secretary clinton. they will try and transfer -- >> but that's anger. >> -- love and affection of the people -- >> but that's anger. >> doesn't work but they are trying it. on the republican side they are trying to transplant economic populism into the party of reagan and paul ryan and they are got the anti-rejection drug of mike pence bathing the kidney transplant going on there. they are both big risks because i don't think you can get hillary to transfer over the
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bernie passion or the obama love. she is competent. that's her argument and her record belies that. >> go ahead to you. what about the mood? zeitgeist is everything. always trying to look ahead, say what would you guys write in the first and second paragraph if trump won the national election. you would say responding to an overwhelming nationalistic urge based upon dissatisfaction with the direction of the country as manifest in all the polls including our own, two-thirds of the country don't like the way the country's going, sense we are being taken by foreign governments, being taken by illegal immigration that isn't regulated at all and taken in to stupid wars, all of that would be the reason for trump to win. i wonder why brilliant people, why do they address those impulses in the democratic message of this week? >> because democrats realize that's kind of the swirling storm of this campaign but when i talk to my trump associates today, my trump sources, i say
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how do you see this, what do you see the democrats doing here. they say look, at the core here is not just about fundamentals on economic populism. trump has to be seen, they say, as change. he has to be seen as different than the democratic party that's been in power for eight years. my trump sources keep telling me if trump can just be change, hillary clinton and the way she embraced president obama and his administration and his record over the past week, they think that enables them to maybe make that argument in spite of trump's missteps and in spite of his controversies. >> to make that point, did you notice the imitation is the greatest form of flattery. on wednesday night or tuesday night, i get the nights confused, one of the nights, they passed out a bunch of placards to all the delegates say making change. all of a sudden hillary decides oh, no, i'm not the guy that everybody's endorsed, i'm not obama's ally, i'm this new kid on the block, i'm the newbie, i didn't think that fit into the theme of the week at all because it's not true.
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>> if i can sum it up, donald trump is the imperfect messenger of the perfect storm in american politics. everything is up in the air and completely chaotic and he's the imperfect messenger of that perfect storm. hillary clinton is the five-time winner of "jeopardy" and she knows a lot more and -- >> do you think she knows popular stuff like that? do you think she knows all these little things about movie lines and everything? >> oh, my goodness, yes. she probably proofread her own book. i think you have touched on it. they did not address this boiling white-hot anger with insiderism and privilege. peggy noonan has written about this. the two americas. people who are connected and those who are not and donald trump is the tribune of the latter. >> you talk to democrats here, they are saying you don't need to appeal to the angry voters. look at mike bloomberg's speech. look at general allen. they are looking at the voters, national security types who are moderates, maybe intrigued by trump and saying look, we can be the party of the hawks, we can be the party of security, too.
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>> so the democrats will be the neo-con party now. isn't that great. this is great. never mind. hugh, thank you, brother. thank you, robert. sometimes robert has to give me the bad news. coming up, now that the conventions are over it's a sprint to november. it really is now. nothing between us until the debates in september. can hillary clinton defend the northern industrial states where trump is trying to make inroads? pennsylvania, ohio. that could be the key to this election. i think if the republicans can't win ohio they can't win an election. that's history talking there. our strategists will talk about that from left and right. plus the fbi's investigating reports of new hacking, this time at the clinton campaign itself and also the democratic congressional campaign committee which house members elected. this week donald trump seemed to encourage, come on, he did, russian hackers to find clinton's e-mail. he now says he was being
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sarcastic. that's not true. he was serious. but the political damage is already there, obviously. now also a tale of two conventions. weren't they different? the upbeat optimism we saw from democrats in philadelphia versus the doom and gloom we got from trump and the republicans out in cleveland. boy, it was manifest. it was so clear. finally, let me finish with a caves politics repeating itself. you will love this stuff from democrats' campaign against goldwater. when it comes to healthcare, seconds can mean the difference between life and death. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live.
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welcome back to "hardball"." hillary clinton and tim kaine are hitting the road in pennsylvania and ohio looking to sell the economic message secretary cli secretary clinton laid out last night. >> in my first hundred days we will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment in new, good paying jobs since world war ii. now, we're not only going to make all of these investments. we are going to pay for every single one of them and here's how. wall street, corporations and the super rich are going to start paying their fair share of
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taxes. >> well, a poll yesterday from suffolk university shows clinton with a nine point lead in pennsylvania over trump. that is impressive. we will see if that's in line with other polls. it is a bit above the others but not far above the average which is about seven, i guess. in the latest poll out of ohio for public policy polling shows the race tied there, 45%. so trump's got to win ohio, then win pennsylvania. trump has a path to 270 votes, to do it he has to pick up both states. joining me to talk about the path forward, is democratic strategist steve mcmahon and republican strategist rob braverman. let's try not to be overly rosy or dismal. trump has to pick up ohio because republicans don't win it without it and pennsylvania, then work his way to either florida or michigan and wisconsin. do you see it differently? >> i think that's absolutely right. if you look, he first has to win everything romney won.
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if he can't do that, mathematically he can get there but symptomaticcally he can't. second, you can say he can win colorado, nevada, iowa, new hampshire. that's really hard. what he has to do is go to what has been referred to as the rust belt, ohio obviously, he has to win. i think he has to win pennsylvania and florida. i don't know how you get there, maybe wisconsin. >> i agree with you. just look at that. hold what he's got. i'm sorry, what the republicans had, hold that, hold on to romney's numbers, hold arizona and north carolina which are tricky, then begin to pick up a state. they always need ohio. then pick up pennsylvania. then jump down and try to hold florida even with all the diversity down there. >> i think you're right. that's really the only path. >> let's go to the deal breaker. the necessary if not sufficient condition of winning this whole thing in mathematical terms. how does a guy who ran against
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mexicans pretty much smeared them, get dominicans, puerto ricans and cuban americans in florida? and black americans? african-americans? how does he get them to not kill him? >> the paradox of donald trump is when he appeals to one group he alienates another group. i believe it's come down to two things. in states like pennsylvania and ohio he has to win blue collar, what sons and daughters of reagan democrats. >> they're great people. they are just very unhappy with the democratic party right now. >> they agree with him on trade, immigration, foreign policy, manufacturing, all those things. >> and stupid wars. >> but he also has to get moderate republican women who are college educated who romney won and that's a bigger lift in some ways. so that's the paradox. >> who may not vote the same as their husbands. >> that's right. >> you can see the classic carville case of the family husband and wife go to vote and waste the gas because they are voting against each other.
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i can imagine a guy in the suburbs being ticked off enough and maybe sharing some of this rust belt attitude and the women saying this guy on abortion, on gays, other issues, social issues, he's just bad. >> right. that's what's happening. those are some of the people that barack obama -- >> race, i'm sorry. we all know this. when you talk about race, you are not just talking about how it affects minorities who don't want to hear the negative stuff. there are certain whites who may be very conservative but they cannot stand being seen as racist. >> yeah. you're right. >> even if they have a bit of it. >> that's one of the reasons, i don't know if you have seen, i'm sure you have, the ad the clinton campaign or one of the super pacs is running about our children are watching. the women who are going to be the swing voters in this thing, who e probably going to determine the outcome, are looking at that ad and saying that's exactly right. >> making fun of the guy with the handicap which every suburban family is familiar to, either learning disabilities or handicaps. these parents live with neighbors with kids like that,
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with problems, autism, things like that. everybody has a health problem among kids in their neighborhood. they don't think it's funny. >> that's right. when you say that's not the kind of country we are, that's not the kind of country we have ever been, and that's not the kind of country we want to be, people agree with it. one of the things i think donald trump is doing now is he's sort of doubling down on the insult brigade and appealing more to the people he's already got. hillary clinton and barack obama especially are reaching across the middle to people who want to believe in america that's a better place. >> can they grab republicans? >> i don't think so. in fact, i was watching her speech last night and it was i'm not just progressive, i'm even more progressive, i even go more progressive. oh, time-out, oh, yeah, you in the middle who are sort of moderate, i'm with you, too. but now i'm back -- >> take a look. we got a new poll that came out this week. from reuters. clinton with a five-point advantage over trump nationally. that's her bump.
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that's a good bump. not great. >> if you look at this race in terms of its underlying structure -- >> it's not going to last. >> the underlying structure of this race should be about a five or six point advantage for clinton. they are sort of elastic. trump moved a little bit. >> even after he's down with putin against hillary, he's only five points down? >> wait a minute. here's the thing. she's the incumbent in this race. i don't care what anybody says. she's the status quo incumbent. if she stays down around 40 and she hovers there and he can stay at 35 for awhile at some point he will pick up and she's got real problems. >> undecided means trump? >> i think so. i think if they haven't decided to vote for hillary clinton -- >> let me ask the big question. how big will the total vote of jill stein's green party and gary johnson libertarian, what will be the total vote come election day, do you think? >> seven. >> total vote. >> seven. >> then hillary wins. >> it will probably be closer to five. >> total vote? >> yeah. i think -- >> so no -- >> i think this is going to be
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one of those races people will be dying to make a decision. i want to be with hillary, i want to be with trump. >> you guys agreeing means a lot to me. i'm telling you. if i were hillary people, i would say we don't want people voting for jill stein, period. we don't want any votes for that. that's all our votes. half of the votes going to libertarian gary johnson could well be democrats. >> one of the problems with these polls is if you don't have that third or fourth line in there which is going to be on the ballot in most places, you don't have a poll that's going to reflect the ballot. >> well, they won't get in the debates without 15. i like when you guys agree. it means there may be real truth there. thank you both. up next, another hack. it keeps going. the democratic congressional campaign committee says it too has been a victim of a breach, raising more questions about whether russia is getting involved in u.s. 2016 politics. this is amazing. this could go on until november. the hottest stuff from moscow being dumped on us to affect our
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the virus is linked to birth defects. back to "hardball." russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. let's see if that happens. that will be next. >> welcome back. that was donald trump on wednesday this week urging a foreign power, russia, to hack into his political rival's e-mails. yesterday he said he was just being sarcastic. >> his client, his person, deleted 33,000 e-mails illegally. you look at that. and when i'm being sarcastic can something -- >> you're being sarcastic? >> of course i'm being sarcastic. you have 33,000 e-mails deleted. the real problem is what was said on those e-mails from the democratic national committee. you take a look at what was said on those e-mails.
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it's disgraceful. >> trump's suggestion was met by a wave of criticism from democratic leaders, of course. here it is. >> the notion he would invite a foreign nation to conduct an attack against our country, it's just beyond the pale. i believe it violates the logan act. i think he should be investigated for that. >> fact is, what he did is a treasonous act. >> that borders on treason. it's one thing to be unfit for command. but today he proved that he's dangerously unfit for command. >> he's entitled now he's the nominee for briefings, cia briefings. i would hope they would give him fake intelligence briefings. they shouldn't give him anything that means anything because you can't trust him. >> many national security experts also said trump's comments were dangerous. meanwhile, new reports of cyberattacks on democratic organizations. the democratic congressional campaign committee confirmed to nbc it had recently been hacked. reuters reported that the computer network used by the clinton campaign itself was also hacked. a campaign spokesman said an
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external data program was breached but there's no evidence that their internal system was compromised. it's going on. the fbi said it's investigating reports of all the hacking. david ignatius animal cod malcoe joins me. david, you are at the security conference in aspen. what do you make of motive? a lot of people are trying to figure out why would russia want to put a thumb on the scale of a u.s. presidential election. what's in it for them, for putin? >> so it's clear that the russian intelligence agencies have been inside these computers, u.s. national security officials have been unambiguous about that. it's not so clear that russia intends to put this information out. the process of transmission to wickileak is still unclear. i think in terms of motive, if you look at vladimir putin's russia, this is a country led by
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a former intelligence officer, from a service that uses what they call active measures. this kind of covert manipulation of information, trying to condition the political debate inside countries, they use that as a standard tool. they have used it in europe in recent years. they funded right wing political parties to destabilize european countries. they fund, support propaganda campaigns that have the same effect. what's amazing as we head toward our november election is that a foreign intelligence service appears to be holding substantial amounts of information that it could dump on the american political scene when it chooses with devastating effect and i think it really scares people in the national security community. >> let me go to malcolm. you are thinking about the motive factor here. >> well, to be honest, i have a far, far gloomier picture of this entire process. i think what's happening here is a strategic political operation
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and strategic political intelligence operation that's being carried out by the fsb with the intent to literally select a president that is favorable to them. and to do this, it follows actually a very old kgb, now fsb political intelligence framework, where they steal or in this case, use cybermethodologies to hack information, they hold that information until a strategic point within their campaign, they release that data through a cut-out, in this case most likely wikileaks which is their useful idiot in this case, then that data is selectively damages an opponent in the favor of another opponent. this has been seen in other operations in georgia, the ukraine. there are campaigns against crimea and of course, back in the '60s and '70s when it was done without cybermeans, it was done with money. i think that they really are not afraid of us and right now, as of today, three of four of the democratic party apparatus have
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been either penetrated or probed and that means the information that they leak in the future, we could be spoofed which is an intelligence term for putting out false data inside a true information stream. this is very, very dangerous to american democracy. >> let me ask david again about the motive from the other side. does putin not like hillary clinton? they worked on opposite sides of the globe, they were entangled. was it negative relationship? >> there's a specific reason that putin might have, i have to stress this is obviously speculation, for going after hillary clinton. when she was secretary of state, she was supportive in terms of issuing statements of dissidents in russia who were challenging putin's political party, putin's political standing and putin said at the time back in 2011-2012 that she was fomenting
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active measures against him. in other words, she shot first. this is a man who feels the united states has been trying to launch a revolution, in other words, launch internal dissent against putin's regime. they may see this as payback. it's just an extraordinary moment where our election process is being held hostage and to have the republican candidate in effect egging a foreign intelligence service on, it's just hard to imagine. >> thank you so much. malcolm, more time for you next time. we always need you. thank you for joining us. up next, two contrasting views of america. we have seen, now seen messages from trump and hillary clinton. whose vision will win over voters and who is the change agent? that's my question. who's going to make things better for the people who are not doing well right now? ♪ before it became a medicine, it was an idea.
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again. >> america is great because america is good. >> welcome back to "hardball." back from philadelphia where the democrats just wrapped up their convention. the message contrasted to that of donald trump last week couldn't be more different. "the washington post" writes for republicans america is a place of near apocolyptic gloom. the message from the democrats is a vibrant and diverse place and upbeat, patriotic place. let's take a listen to the different visions of the two candidates. >> our convention occurs at a moment of crisis for our nation. >> america is stronger because of president obama's leadership. >> america is a nation of believers, dreamers and strivers that is being led by a group of censors, critics and cynics.
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>> we have the most dynamic and diverse people in the world. >> we will completely rebuild our depleted military. >> we have the most powerful military. >> we are going to build a great border wall to stop illegal immigration. >> we will not build a wall. instead, we will build an economy where everyone who wants a good job can get one. >> tonight's roundtable includes eli stokels, sabrina siddique and jonathan capehart. you do everything. let me ask eli to start with this. who is the person in the democratic party who came up with the idea of repositioning the party? instead of the party which is the social critic, things aren't the way we should be, we will make it a more perfect union, more perfect and more perfect every year but it's not there, to a party that's pretty proud of this country the way it is?
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who came up with that? because it was all during the week. >> donald trump is responsible for that. the base of the democratic party is moving it to the left yet donald trump just sort of throws this hanging curveball over the plate by what they put onstage the week before in cleveland that allowed hillary clinton to come back and respond to i alone can fix this with e pluribus unum. >> also, we are great now. by the way, you don't hear people in the hard left saying this is a good country, therefore it's a great country. it's critical usually. social criticism is the norm in the democratic party. >> being in philly, one of the things that was so striking was having the stage packed with admirals, with generals -- >> didn't that blow you away? how could 30 generals be doing this? >> with chants of no more war drowned out by the crowd chanting "usa." i spoke with people who were sitting there saying this should have been our convention. this is the speech our nominee should have given.
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it is because of donald trump. he provided this unique window where democrats can appeal or are trying to appeal to moderate republicans, independent-minded suburban voters who are sitting in virginia and florida and saying they can't cast a ballot for donald trump. maybe we could give a look to this party even if it's just for this election because they don't believe donald trump is prepared to be president. >> do you think, this is tricky to talk about, i don't mean gender, i mean sort of a feminine, there's a thing the democrats -- tim kaine, an alan alda guy, sensitive guy, i think appeals to women in a lot of ways. hillary clinton's appeal, a lot of it was not just feminist but this kind of we're not the big shot big mouth party. we're the party that's a little softer spoken, and also, more sensitive to different ethnic groups. we don't shout and make fun of people. i think suburban women who are the target are that's more like me. >> well, right, but also, underlying all of that is one word.
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competence. actually, two. competence and stability. after coming out of cleveland, you showed that montage of donald trump yelling and gesticulating, then contrast that to hillary clinton who is calmly speaking, the sunny vision of the country. they are trying to show that not only do we have the most experienced person to ever run for president as our nominee, but she and her vice presidential nominee are stable and on top of all of that, republicans because of their nominee agreeing with -- >> let me ask you. i thought the speech was workmanlike. the other speeches were fantastic. the first lady's, the president's, the father of captain khan blew me away. michael bloomberg blew me away. >> spectacular. >> he's not exactly lyrical. you pay for those lines. you don't just make them up when you're shaving or mataking a
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shower. these are great lines. you think it was purposeful to do what john just said, i want to show that i'm competent, i get the job done, i'm not a show-off? >> nobody expected soaring oratory. that's not her strnt. >> you can buy that. peggy noonan is out there somewhere. >> it capped off a week that was more or less perfectly produced. it was easy to answer what donald trump put onstage. picking up on jonathan's point, the republicans attack democrats and say you are always blaming america first. you can't do that. >> one of the most striking lines was when she said some of you just don't know what to do with me but that's okay. this is why -- >> some people don't like me. was that in the speech? she said that did or yesterday. it blew me away to say that. >> it's an acknowledgment of her shortcomings. >> the roundtable is staying with us. up next, they tell me something
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i will -- i will gladly lend you my copy. copy. have you ever been to arlington cemetery? go look at the graves of brave patriots who died defending united states of america. you will see all faiths, genders, and ethnicities. you have sacrificed nothing, and no one! >> wow. that was the moment for me, anyway, and everybody else, i think, right? that's the father, khizr khan, father of captain khan. he's going to tell his story tonight when he speaks with my colleague, lawrence o'donnell. that's 10:00 p.m. eastern here
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>> we're back with the "hardball" roundtable. eli, tell me something i don't know. never know who's first. >> surreal moment of the week at politico. monday we get our typical rejection, no credentials to the trump campaign events. all the same e-mail requesting copies of politico magazine because trump was on the cover. >> was it a tough cover? >> no, it was a flattering cover. i think he just likes all the covers. but this is happening -- >> it's for the wall. you know you frame those babies, you know that, when you get your face on the cover of a magazine, you frame it. >> to me, that said a lot. >> that he likes ink. >> even from the organizations that he won't let cover him. >> sabrina. >> he's changing the religious contours of this race. a new poll shows that weekly church goers are evenly split, almost evenly split between
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donald trump and hillary clinton. 49% of them support trump. and that's driven by hillary clinton having an advantage among weekly church goers. >> hope she doesn't lose it. >> last night after secretary clinton gave her acceptance speech of the nomination, at 2:08 a.m. this morning, she went to a party at the kimmel performing arts center. there she is, president clinton, senator kaine, and his wife. >> on the avenue of the arts on south broad. thank you all. when we return, let me finish with a case of politics repeating itself. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i study psychobiology. i'm a fine arts major. nobody really believes that i take notes this way, but they actually make sense to me. i try to balance my studying with the typical college experience.
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>> just ask yourself, do you really think donald trump has the temperament to be commander in chief? donald trump can't even handle the rough and tumble of a presidential campaign. he loses his cool at the slightest provocation. imagine him in the oval office, facing a real crisis. a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. >> let me finish tonight with a case of politics repeating
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itself. democrats this week went after trump for publicly asking the russians to crack into hillary clinton's e-mails. he responded by saying, he was simply being sarcastic. this reminded me of the assault in 1964 on barry gold water. who also had a habit of saying things and then saying he didn't. the keynote speaker then the world cannot wait until saturday to learn what he meant when he spoke on monday. so true today. and here's vice presidential nominee hubert humphrey going at gold water, as being not just out of the country's mainstream, but being out of the republican's mainstream. >> a temporary spokesman is not only out of tune with the great majority of his countrymen, he's even out of step with his own party.
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most republicans in the united states senate, for example, voted for the nuclear test ban treaty. but not the temporary republican spokesman. most democrats and republicans in the senate, in fact, 4/5 of the members of his own party voted for the civil rights act, but not senator goldwater. >> it went on like that. between now and november, we may hear a big name democrat saluting the majority of republicans for doing something good, only to then attack the republican presidential nominee, for not being one of them. but not donald trump. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. ♪ ♪ tonight on "all in" -- >> we have 100 days to make our case to america! >> here comes the general. >> i just beat 16 people, and i'm beating her. >> day one of hillary clinton ve d

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