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>> his wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there, she had nothing to say. maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. you tell me, but plenty of people have written that. she was extremely quiet. and looked like she had nothing to say. a lot of people have said that. and personally, i watched him, i wish him the best of luck. >> how would you answer that? what sacrifice have you made for your country? >> i think i've made a lot of sacrifices. i work very, very hard. i've created thousands and thousands of jobs. tens of thousands of jobs. built great structures. i've done -- i've had tremendous success. >> those are sacrifices? >> oh, sure, i think they're sacrifices. >> from that reaction coming swiftly in the last 24 hours since "meet the press". >> the way he showed disrespect towards the gold star mother of this country, that says it all. >> your wife?
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>> my wife. the brave mother of my son. who can relate, who has some empathy with the citizens he wishes to lead, this candidate is wide of both. >> nbc's katy tur joining us now with the latest reaction. katy, what is the trump campaign saying this afternoon? >> they're not saying anything this afternoon. so far what they're relying on is donald trump's own tweets as often how he responds to various controversies. you alluded to it a moment ago in your intro, but let's read the tweets. i was viciously attacked by mr. khan at the democratic convention. am i not allowed to respond? hillary voted for the iraq war, not me. there's no evidence to support he voted for the iraq war, he also went onto say captain khan killed 12 years ago was a hero, but this is about radical islamic terror and the weakness
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of our leaders to eradicate it. that's what the campaign and candidate are trying to do. they're trying to pivot this to focus more on radical islamic terrorist saying that's the problem, not necessarily the idea mr. khan is putting forth which is muslims in this country. the issue surrounding as donald trump repeatedly has said he would like to ban all muslims from coming to this country and that would include muslims who in theory would want to become american citizens and fight our wars alongside of us as mr. khan's son did. and as mr. khan is trying to elude today, he said mr. khan claimed he never read the constitution, we should point out he said have you even read the constitution, which is a question. this is a controversy that seems to be sticking at least for the time being. donald trump has been a force repeatedly now to clarify his comments and try and pivot his comments back to a narrative that he wants to extend.
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this is pretty much the mo dus op ren di for this campaign. every opportunity we've seen he's quickly moved away from it by starting another controversy. richard, in the past two weeks alone think of what we've seen. melania trump accused of plagiarism, and then was found to be plagiarizing michelle obama's speech. ted cruz takes the convention stage and doesn't endorse donald trump, gets booed. donald trump then goes on the attack against ted cruz, again trying to link his father to the jfk assassination or alluding to it. >> right. >> then donald trump calls for russia to, quote/unquote, find the 33,000 e-mails that he called missing that hillary clinton deleted. and facing a number of questions surrounding his ties to russia, his business ties, his personal ties, his past comments said he has a relationship with president putin facing a lot of questions surrounding whether or not he is -- why he would want to benit from russia
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interfering in american politics. now we are talking about a fight he is having with a gold star family who lost their son in war. >> and as you've been reporting he likes to counterpunch. he always says that. >> he likes to counterpunch. but there's also instances where he's not counterpunching. he won the attack against the fire marshal in colorado the other day saying he didn't feel the fire marshal was allowing enough people into his rally room. he won the attack against a hotel in roanoke, virginia, for not having the air-conditioning low enough for his liking. >> she's laid it out for us, a lot to cover in the next hour, katy tur covering those issues, thanks so much, katy. now hillary clinton weighing in on what katy was reporting on just a while ago in ohio, kacie hunt joins us now from columbus, ohio. where does the clinton campaign start? >> reporter: well, richard, i think the question here is just how much of a pivot point will this be in this campaign.
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and the clinton campaign is privately confident that this is something that is going to last for longer than some of the other issues that trump has stumbled into over the course of this campaign. obviously there've been a number of times where people have thought he put a foot wrong, said something that was otherwise unacceptable and continued to roll on, continued to rack up votes and support regardless. i think the question is going to be how long does this continue to last. and the backlash is so universal at this point on both the republican and the democratic side. take a look at what hillary clinton had to say about this earlier today at a campaign stop. >> to launch an attack as he did on captain khan's mother, a gold star mother, who stood there on that stage with her husband honoring the sacrifice of their son and who has in the days since spoken out about the
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overwhelming emotion that any mother would feel as her son was being honored and then to have trump do what he did. i don't know where the bounds are. >> reporter: so those are the first substantive comments we've heard from hillary clinton on this particular issue through the course of this bus tour. and i think you're going to see that continue to resonate in the days to come, richard. >> msnbc's kasie hunt in columbus, ohio, as she's on a tour through the rust belt. joining me is rick wade, former senior advisor to president obama, and luciana lopez, joe watkins, former white house aide to president george h.w. bush. let me start with you, luciana. trump started at 8:57 a.m. in that tweet, he brings in the word, this is all about radical islamic terrorism. how is this all about radical islamic terrorism?
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>> this is all about a distraction effort to pull away from what actually happened, which is to say we had grieving parents on a stage talking about the sacrifice of their son, a sacrifice which i might add my heart goes out to them for that because i can't imagine what they go through, and it's a way for him to distract from these people saying this is our way of life and our way of life honors america just as much as yours does and a way for him to try to pull away from that. >> but, joe, isn't he also trying to make that association that you should not make here. we're talking about radical islamic terrorism, we're talking about a military family who has lost their son, who happened to be muslim. >> well, this kind of a tactic has worked for donald trump. it's kind of a counterintuitive tactic though it's worked donald trump, can't forget earlier in the campaign made a comment about john mccain having been a prisoner of war and the like, what he managed to do very
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successfully is to tweet or to make comments to really use to earn media, free media, a series of statements, and everybody has to react to those statements. then he controls the dialogue. >> joe, is this wrong? >> is it wrong? >> yeah. >> i wouldn't do it. i mean, i wouldn't attack a gold star mother or a gold star father. the parents are people who've given their lives. i wouldn't do it. but as a tactic for him, it has worked. it has worked. it has gotten him the attention. i don't think it's lost him any votes necessarily. it certainly gets your attention and allows him to control the dialogue. he's saying this is really about radical islam now. >> votes he never had. let's go to that, if we can here, rick. this morning the mother -- i'll move to that right now saying she did not have to say a word for everyone to feel her pain. she was alluding to that question from donald trump why didn't she say anything during that address during the dnc.
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rick, when you look at this, trump saying he's a counterpuncher, i was talking with katy tur a second ago, but should he not counterpunch on this? should he just leave this one alone? is the hole just getting bigger here? >> well, listen, it's something he never should have addressed in the first place. this is the most gross distasteful act of cowardness and bigotry that i've seen in donald trump skpr, and we've se many instances. this family, the khan family, resembles a family -- to attack a golden star mother who stood on that stage. and i felt her pain by her mere silence on that stage. but they made the ultimate sacrifice. give me one example of a personal sacrifice that donald trump has made. and i don't mean business success where he was given a million dollars to start his own enterprise. he doesn't know what empathy is.
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and we ought to all stand up not just democrats but i agree with mr. khan that mitch mcconnell and paul ryan and all would-be good republicans and democrats and americans stand up. we can't afford to be silent onlookers on this issue. it was wrong. it was dead wrong. and it cannot be tolerated and accepted. >> luciana, building on what both rick and joe said there, as we look at this idea of the khan family being that idea of intersectionality in our country, representing so many different things to us. just earlier today on "meet the press" for instance, mr. khan saying i'm a lover of both parties. i reached out to the leadership in the republican party. i'm also going to be critical of those who are not understanding necessarily who i am, who my son was. the lack of empathy that rick was talking about, and also the question of can he respond? i want you to put those two together. he's basically saying i am responding to this complexity. is he responding? >> i think what donald trump
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maybe isn't realizing is the intersectionality of his own voters. so we talk about them as white, working class people who are not college educated in a number of more rural areas. but just like so many of us more than one thing at a time, those voters as well. a lot of those voters for them the military is a source of great pride in america. and it's a way for them to express their own patriotism and to find a home, to find some place that gives them the structure that maybe the loss of the jobs in the area has taken from them. so when he's attacking people who say we're expressing our values and our love of america through our son who gave his life in the military, that's actually an intersectionality that brings in his own voters. it doesn't shut them out. this is a place where i think maybe donald trump hasn't realized that his voters live part of the time as well. >> good point made. i want to go more to that interview on "meet the press" earlier. joe, khan had a message for republicans on "meet the press."
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i want you to listen to that and get your response. >> i appeal to the leadership of republican party that they should disassociate themselves -- >> made a direct plea to mitch mcconnell by name and paul ryan by name. >> that is correct. >> you were fans of both of them. >> correct. i remain, i have tremendous respect for both of them. republican and democrats are as patriotic as anyone else. this is a political process. it's a wonderful, beautiful political process. but in that political process there are some model ethical values of this country that need to be maintained and managed. >> and, joe, mitch mcconnell came out with a statement this afternoon as well. he said he rejects the muslim ban. paul ryan coming out with a statement as well rejecting trump's remarks yesterday. john kasich also tweeted his support for the khan family. so we have a good number of prominent republicans here saying no good, don't do this.
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does rnc chair reince priebus though, does mike pence, the v.p. nominee, do those two directly need to specifically rebuke this tenor of the comments made by trump on this veterans family? >> well, it would certainly be something special if the chairman of the republican party did that. it'd be a good thing if the chairman did that. i don't know that he's in a position to do that right now in the midst of a presidential campaign that he'd like to see his party win. and the same is true for mike pence. mike pence rarely serves at the pleasure of the nominee as his running mate. so it would be hard for him, he may very well disagree with what happened and he may side certainly with mr. khan. i know that he's a patriotic american. and he would certainly be very sympathetic toward the khan family, toward mr. and mrs. khan, but i don't know that he's in a position to publicly voice that. that's the challenge for him. but there are many republicans as you can see certainly empathize with the khans and really appreciate the sacrifice that their son made and appreciate both of them.
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so there are lots of republicans that appreciate what they did. >> i think khan -- >> i was there at the d nc also very moving moment when he spoke. >> yes. khan being consistent saying this is not about party. this is about my family. this is about my son being a veteran. thank you, luciana lopez, rick wade, joe watkins, you're not going anywhere, you'll stay with us for a segment later in the hour when we'll talk about swing states, this very topic and other issues that may effect november. stick around for that. also donald trump's controversial new comments about the threat of russia to its eastern european neighbors. we have got that, but up next, what investigators are learning about the texas hot air balloon accident that took the lives of 16 people. pregnancy is an exciting time, but you may experience common discomforts. introducing trunatal from one a day. trunatal is a new line of products designed to address discomforts with nausea relief and regularity support. add trunatal from one a day for relief and support you can trust. once i left the hospital after a dvt blood clot.
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the ntsb saying they are focusing on weather conditions at the time of the crash and how the balloon was operated and maintained. >> we're looking at the operation of the balloon, the pilot, the company that operated the balloon. we'll be looking at the maintenance aspects of this balloon. witnesses. we're certainly interested to know any witness information that we may be able to get. fire aspects. we're bringing in an expert in fire science. >> nbc's kerry sanders is following the latest in lockhart, texas. kerry, what have you been hearing from witnesses there? >> reporter: well, the witnesses are providing information that's actually helping guide this investigation. the national transportation safety board is here. as we go to the second camera, you can see there are representatives here from the power company that maintain the power lines here. these are super high voltage
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lines, 340,000 volts. and as we're looking at them, they're just descending now a truck after inspecting some of the areas along the line here. the power has been cut off, but it will be restored at some point. meantime the national transportation safety board is in a field here looking at the debris field trying to see if they can determine if there's an explanation as t why the balloon was unable to gain altitude and get over these lines. there were witnesses who saw this. one of them telling us it appeared to her, not as somebody who's ever operated or been in a balloon, but it appeared to her that the balloon was trying to get altitude but just could not. >> as we were getting closer to it, we could see that they weren't really moving. they were kind of hovering in the same spot. and the gondola was full of people. and they weren't moving. as we got even closer, you could see the flame turning on and turning off, and turning on and turning off. we thought something's got to be wrong. >> did it look like they were trying to climb?
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>> you know, i don't know very much about hot air balloons. to me it just seemed they couldn't climb. they were stuck right above the tree line. >> reporter: well, the authorities have identified -- or started to talk to some of the family members of those who died. the identification process actually will take some time because of the remains. this was a very volatile situation with electricity. and the identification according to the local medical examiner may require dental identification. but the family members have gathered at a distance not too far from here, the national transportation safety board informing them of everything that they can. one family member has identified their loved ones who were onboard as matt and sunday rowan, brother joshua saying they were just two people greatly in love, been married about a year from san antonio. and now that family's heart aches for the loss as do so many. richard. >> kerry, thank you so much. nbc's kerry sanders live for us in lockhart, texas, with the
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the families of flint will not be forgotten. we will provide the justice they deserve. and in michigan, the system's not rigged. >> that was michigan's attorney general on friday. he announced six more government workers now face charges in the flint water crisis. they're accused of hiding information about lead in the
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city's drinking water. then failing to do anything about it. in all nine people have now been charged since the crisis first came to light. melissa mayes is a flint resident whose family has been plagued by health issues that doctors attribute to lead. melissa, good to speak with you again. >> hi. >> we were just outlining if you will the charges. do they surprise you these charges? >> not at all. i was hoping they would be ha h harshers because in the end when you look at legionnaires and the fact these children will be forever impacted by the lead, you would think they would be harsher, but fitting for what they've done. >> you've heard the attorney general, is he doing enough, is he fast enough? >> we can always say it's not fast enough. and it's not going to be enough until we see those emergency managers and even up to the governor's office seeing their names on that list of people charged. because at the end of the day they're the ones that made the decisions. >> i want to go back to january. because this is when you and i first spoke. here's what you told us that
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your family was going through at that time. some six, seven months ago. >> my kids are all anemic. they're exhausted. christian especially his bones hurt constantly. and there's nothing you can do or give him to take away the bone pain. my oldest, he's having problems with his teeth crumbling. and he's 17. and he has holes forming in the smooth sides of his teeth. and the dentist said it's from the lead crumbling his teeth. and then my youngest his immune system is so compromised right now we can't get his white blood cell count above 4 so he's sick almost on a daily basis. and with myself i've developed seizures, drtremors, autoimmune disorders and now looks like i'm having issues with my liver. >> melissa, anybody listening to the list of items you brought up six months ago, half a year ago, would hope that today now things are different. are they? >> well, yeah, they're worse.
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my sons now have to go through physical therapy three times a week because there's issues with their growth plates, their muscles are not growing properly and they are in constant pain. and i'm also on more meds, the seizures have gotten worse. i've actually developed ibs as well as other issues with the tremors. my husband has issues with his digestive system. there's a lot of that going around right now. and fears because we just had a diagnosis of dysentery from bacteria in the water in flint. we don't even know where we're at anymore. it's the 1700s. it's back to oregon trail. it's worse, the water has become worse. >> tell me about your sense of hope for a solution here. is it worse today than it was half a year ago when you and i spoke? >> i'm more realistic now. i realize that it's not going to be swooped in once the world knows. it used to be if the world knows our water's poisoned, things are going to change. things will get better right away. now i realize it's going to take a lot of work and all of us fighting together and please don't forget about flint. in this time we found all these other cities and states having
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the same if not worse issues than us. if flint doesn't get fixed, no one's going to. >> melissa, we're with you, appreciate your time today. melissa mays in detroit for us this afternoon. next, a look at why russia might want to interfere in the u.s. election and how the u.s. government could fight back. later, new alzheimer's research just released giving hope to millions of people suffering from this incurable disease. it's the little things in life that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. try super poligrip free. every day is a chance to dop, something great..
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entering our country is not reflective of these fundamental values. i reject it. many muslim americans have served valiantly in our military and made the ultimate sacrifice. captain khan was one such brave example. well, federal investigators are probing a series of cyber attacks against the democratic party. on fox today hillary clinton responded to the hacking of the democratic national committee. take a listen. >> we know that russian intelligence services, which are part of the russian government, which is under the firm control of vladimir putin, hacked into the dnc. and we know that they arranged for a lot of those e-mails to be released. and we know that donald trump has shown a very troubling willingness to backup putin. >> trump's relationship with putin has not always been so clear. in an interview with abc he said he did not know the russian president. >> i mean, he was saying very good things about me, but i
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don't have a relationship with him. i didn't meet him. i haven't spent time with him. i didn't have dinner with him. i didn't go hiking with him. i don't know -- i wouldn't know him from adam except i see his picture and i would know what he looks like. >> but that is not what he has said in the past. take a look what he told nbc's thomas roberts in 2013. >> do you have a relationship with vladimir putin, a conversational relationship, or anything that you feel you have sway or influence over his government? >> i do have a relationship. and i can tell you that he's very interested in what we're doing here today. >> joining me now is professor of international affairs with new school and great granddaughter of nikita. can you answer the question does he have a relationship with vladimir putin, donald trump. >> i personally haven't seen that relationship. from what i know trump was a
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very -- man, he wants everything huge. and having relationship with vladimir putin who is the head of the kremlin, he's been saying that all along. i don't know if you remember last year he said that in fact he was in a green room with putin when they were both interviewed. and of course they were not because vladimir putin was in kremlin in russia and trump was not here in new york in the green room. i think what it was charlie rose into you if i remember correctly. so it doesn't seem they actually met. i'm sure putin is interested in trump just -- >> why would he be interested in trump here? >> well, there is a lot of reasons. i mean, first of all, they sort of shoot from the hip. in their grandiosity. although unlike trump's grandiosity, putin's is very, very calculated. i think trump is a very useful fool for him because he creates such a wave in american politics.
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and putin likes something that can destabilize america. and the russians, i was just in moscow, and they do believe if trump is elected the greatness of america is really bye-bye now. because that will be such an embarrassment for the world with trump as president. that russia would speedily get to the top of the world domination agenda that putin has. i'm not though sure that it was a big strategy releasing those e-mails. i think he was just more getting back to at hillary clinton because he doesn't like her. she called him hitler. that was very insulting to him. and he just threw it in the bucket to see how much drama, how much wave he can create and drama he can stir. >> so you're saying when you were in moscow what you were hearing is they hope trump might win, that's at least one story line, because it would be the beginning of the end of the united states' leadership in the world. >> absolutely. >> where might they have some mutual admiration? where might they have some overlap in how they are similar? >> well, they're similar in a lot of ways they say things that
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seem absolutely shocking and completely unacceptable. although as i said i think for putin there's a very important calculated political nationalistic patriotic messages. for trump he just says things that he says because they're convenient in the moment. >> your students at new school probably say professor nina, why is this important in this election cycle? and what do you tell them? >> well, i think it is important this election cycle -- >> the idea of russia in this election. >> the idea because russia has become very big since last election cycle. it has in 2014 russia annex crimea from ukraine, in 2014 ukraine that putin has very big local interests in or general interests in and used to be part of russian influence fear. and so that thing that really changed perception of the world
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russia sanctioned by western europe and the united states. so it is a very big player. nato is now having very bad relationship with russia. so it's a very big player. and putin hopes that with trump he can actually change that. >> a lot of complexities behind us no doubt. nina, thanks for stopping by today and giving us at least a hint of some of the background to this very story line, russia and donald trump. appreciate it. a short footnote on one congressional caucus that had an emotional democratic convention. for the first time the asian american and pacific honor caucus addressed a major political convention's main hall audience. >> we are now the swing vote in swing states like virginia, nevada and also right here in pennsylvania. >> but the small caucus was missing one member, congressman mark takai, 49 of hawaii. he died of cancer just two days before the convention started. the group also lost joe mo
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♪ share the joy of real cream... ...with reddi-wip. every 66 seconds somebody in the united states gets this disease, the sixth leading cause of death, alzheimer's. one in three seniors die with the disease or another form of dementia. it costs the average family caregiver $5,000 a year to take care of their loved one. yet there is no cure. the alzheimer's association just finishing its annual research conference friday and new developments. new studies released discover potential ways to build resilience. one was computerized speed of
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training reducing likelihood of getting dementia by 30%. he detection has been almost as difficult as prevention, but new research shows a person's nose now may be a window to the brain. how well one can smell certain odors can help diagnosis. joining us now with more james hendricks, director of global science initiatives at the alzheimer's association. james, thanks for being with us. so let's get straight to some of the new findings. these speed of processing trainings and how they reduce likelihood by a third. how does this happen and what are these exercises? >> well, we don't really know the actual mechanism of how this happens, but it's really interesting because this was a ten-year study with about 2,700 people. and the people that went onto develop dementia, those that had done this speed training. >> right. >> they had a reduction. and the people that got a booster after a year or two
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actually had an even greater reduction in their dementia risks. >> what's a speed train sng is it a computer test? >> yeah, it's a computer test. you're asked to identify a symbol very quickly. >> uh-huh. >> and so we always knew that cognitive training seemed to have some benefit. we didn't know what kind of cognitive training. we didn't really have advice to give people. is it the crossword puzzle or something else? seems speed is important. >> also there's formal education and complex work. what does that mean and how does that help, quickly? >> so this all speaks to this resilience and cognitive reserve hypothesis that if you stretch your brain, if you work your brain, all the way through your life and continue lifelong learning. >> right. >> this helps build connections. and so if you -- this research showed that another type of complex work with people seemed to be more important than people that had complex jobs that only
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dealt with data or with stuff. so that also speaks to the need for social engagement. >> social engagement. >> we're social beings so we need to keep those social contacts growing especially as you grow older and you grow into senior living. >> social complexity is what you're saying in addition to not only the data complexity we're so often associating with this. then there's this interesting thing about the smell test. >> yes. well, i think we've all experienced that time in our lives where we might have experienced an odor and it's brought back a rush of memories from maybe our childhood. memory and smell are very strongly linked. and we know that sense is diminished in association with alzheimer's disease and dementia. so can we detect those changes early? maybe even before the memory changes occur. it's really important to detect alzheimer's early. we think as we move forward that prevention and prevention of decline is going to be the best way to treat this disease as we
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get better and better treatments. >> james hendrix, thank you so much. there on the heels of finishing your research conference just last week in toronto. thank you so much to the director of global science initiatives at the alzheimer's association. appreciate it. >> thank you for your interest in alzheimer's research. >> you bet ya. want to go live to ohio. secretary clinton, tim kaine taking to the stage trying to rally voters as they make their bus tour through the battleground states. hillary clinton right now. >> and we're going to enforce the laws and finally make it absolutely clear no more discrimination against women who work in the workplace. so i know we're up against some powerful forces. and here's what i want you to know as you talk to your friends, your neighbors about this election, everything i've
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proposed -- and you can go to hillaryclinton.com and read all about it, i've told you how i will pay for it. how will i pay for it? i will pay for everything i've proposed by making the wealthy corporations and wall street finally pay their fair share of taxes. somebody asked me, well, why are you doing that? do you resent success? no, i don't resent success. i do resent people taking advantage of other people to try to become successful. but the reason we're going to get the wealthy to pay is that's where the money is. they have earned 90% of all of
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the income gained since the recession. that's the top 1%. and i just think like that old movie says you got to follow the money, and the money is with the super wealthy. now, we're also going to do more for education, starting with preschool education. we're going to support our teachers in order to give them what they need to do the job we're asking them to do. we're going to make four-year college affordable by making it debt free. and we're going to help those of you who have student debt pay it
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back at a lower interest rate at a faster timetable. and if you do public service like teaching, policing, fire fighting, social work, we will forgive your debt. [ cheers and applause ] this seems to me also to be fair, donald trump gets to refinance and forgive his debts. well, what about the families and students of america who get to have some help with their debts? so if you vote for us, that's exactly what we're going to do next year. >> all right. hillary clinton there in columbus, ohio, speaking there at a rally. she's on her bus tour across the rust belt, across the battleground states.
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hitting a similar note as she did yesterday as she was making her way through pennsylvania. we're joined again by luciana lopez, political correspondent for reuters, rick wade former advisor to president obama, and joe watkins, former white house aide to president george h.w. bush. before we get into some of the poll numbers though, i do want to get some responses from you. some of the responses that -- and comments that were made in some key states. governor maggie hassan in a tight race with senator kelly ayotte in new hampshire, she released this statement about the khan family, shows a complete lack of judgment. anyone who continues to support trump for president after he attacked a gold star family should be disqualified from holding elected office. and former governor ted strickland released a statement, quote, republican governor kasich has shown the courage to stand up against trump's
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rhetoric while senator portman has chosen political cowardice and silence. if he will notd stand up to trump, then he cannot be trusted to stand up for ohioans in the senate. joe, should vulnerable republicans be worried about this? the individual -- the nominee at the top of the ticket effecting these down ballot issues as well as down ballot elections. >> yeah, well, they have to be concerned about it. i mean, what happens at the top of the ticket will likely have an impact on them especially in these close races in these important battleground states like ohio and pennsylvania. so, yeah, they do have to be concerned about it. they have to run their own race too. at the same time they've got to talk about the issues that matter to their voters and what they're going to do in their respective seats whether it's governor or the u.s. senate or the u.s. house. but they have to be concerned about the top of the ticket, no doubt. >> as you look at the top of the ticket and comments currently going back and forth regarding khan, the khan family and then donald trump's comments about
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this muslim american family, this veteran's family, you have to almost look back a little bit. these controversies can define an election even down ballot or up ballot in previous situations. you remember todd akins comments on rape in 2012. i want to play a little of that and get a response from rick if we can. >> from what i understand from doctors that's really rare. if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. but let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something. >> every republican in a race was asked to respond to that comment from todd akin. and here, rick, are we seeing the same thing here? this with donald trump and his comments, will every republican have to respond to what he is saying? >> absolutely. we should demand that they respond. listen, this cuts to the very core values of america, our freedom, our liberty, our ability to be treated equally as
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human citizens contributing greatly to american society and making the sacrifices that make this country so great and awesome. so, yes, i believe that this issue is not going away any time soon. and from the top of the ballot to the bottom of the ballot there's ought to be an issue on every voter's minds that they're challenging and demanding answers over. >> luciana, we played at the top of the hour and you were there for that conversation when secretary clinton did respond quickly on the side with press and she was saying she could not believe how far the boundaries were going. is she not leveraging this as much as she can? or is it just right? >> well, i think she has to really walk a very fine line between showing respect for the khan family and not seeming too exploit them for political purposes. because i think at the core of this i think something we would all do well to remember is this is a family that's grieving. yes, it's been years since their son died, but that's an ache that's going to be with them forever. and first and foremost i think
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we have to respect that. >> does this issue, this controversy that we're talking on a sunday as she's making through her bus tour here, is that something that will resonate in those states? >> i think it will because the khan family, they're particularly talking about this idea of sacrificing for the united states. so for example let's talk about coal miners in west virginia, in pennsylvania, these are people who do a very difficult, literally very dirty job, and they feel that they're sacrificing part of that to help build the united states infrastructure, to help build the country. >> all right. on that note secretary clinton is now addressing this issue, luciana. let's go straight to hillary clinton. >> -- who sacrificed his life to protect his unit and other soldiers as a taxi raced toward the gates of a base containing a bomb. when his father spoke at the convention, and pulled out a copy of the constitution, it was
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so fitting that happened in philadelphia where our country started 240 years ago. they enshrined in our constitution the principle of religious liberty. they understood that america would be including and attracting people from all over the world. george washington, thomas jefferson, they addressed different religions including islam that were present in america way back at our beginning. and i want us always to stand for freedom and equality and justice and opportunity now and forever! help us go out and win an
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election! that will keep our democracy strong! our economy growing! and give every american a chance to live up to his or her god given potential! thank you so much, columbus! >> secretary clinton there in columbus, ohio, commenting on the khan family, the loss. joe watkins, she was basically saying this was about veterans, about our military community, this is something higher than where donald trump is discussing this topic. >> yeah. she hit on a great point, and certainly for everybody who watched that convention and for those of us who were there it was a very, very moving moment when mr. khan spoke about his son who sacrificed his life for this country. and i don't think anybody will forget it. i still think that donald trump is also thinking about the fact that voters are concerned about the economy and whether or not they're going to have a job in the fall. and he knows that what really
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matters is not just story of the day but whether or not what you're saying overall is going to move those numbers in those key states. >> joe, we've got to leave it there. i apologize. i appreciate it. luciana, joe, rick, thank you for joining us this hour. stay with us on msnbc. and incluo help convert food to energy. mmm, these are good! nice work phillips'. the tasty side of fiber, from phillips. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth and fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum-tum-tum-tum-tums smoothies, only from tums. every day is a chance to dop, something great.. and for the ones they love, they'd do anything. sears optical has glasses made for doing. right now, buy one pair and get another free. quality eyewear for doers. sears optical
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