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got on a tv show called "shark tank" that kicked "the apprentice's" ass. >> well those are some harsh words from mark cuban. >> you have sacrificed nothing. and no one. >> he said you have sacrificed nothing and no one. >> well, who wrote that? did hilary's script writers write it? >> the stewardship of this country needs to be in the hands of the person who has moral compass. who can relate. who has some empathy with
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citizens lead. >> didn't exactly get boring after the convention. it's august 1st. so if it's august, what does it mean? mika is in the south of france. so this year only two months. she's actually not. she's very sick. not very sick but anyway, she can't talk so she'll be in tomorrow, i'm sure. and manager editor bloomberg politics and the co-host with all due respect airs at 6:00 p.m. on nbc. how are you doing? >> good morning, joe. lots to discuss. >> we'll have fun with video tape. we may be calling this show fun with video tape. you'll get what trump says about putin and hilary said about
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e-mails. >> it's the warner walt episode. >> i was here last night myself splicing it and it's going to be exciting. also, the news and finance anchor at yahoo! she has been in the south of france. >> i've been on maternity leave. >> in the south of france. how do you handle that? that's good. >> the kid speaks french though. >> and also the president of the council on foreign relations, the man that never sleeps. and washington senior political editor and white house co correspondent for the washington post. how do you unwind everything that happened? i thought this entire weekend was just a disaster for donald trump. an absolute disaster and then i saw hillary clinton on fox news
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sunday saying i never transmitted any classified material. you sat there going who is talking to her. both of these candidates had horrible performances on the sunday shows. >> well, she had an overall better performance. parts were good but what she said about the fbi stuff is a little confounding. trump's interview was one of the low points of his campaign so far. there's a lot to unpack from it but he went into that in a confrontational way. but there's still questions. >> saying he never met vladimir putin. >> and it was jerry ford, 1976. the russians aren't in poland. >> yes they are. now it's the russians aren't in the withdrew crane. it was baffling. and take us through all of that. >> donald trump is facing
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criticism after his response to the parents of an american soldier killed in america. the parents of captain khan took to the stage at the dnc thursday night to condemn trump's proposals and statements about muslims. he said trump had sacrificed nothing and no one and questioned if he had even read the u. s. constitution. the trump campaign responded saying captain khan was a hero to our country. the real problem here are the radical islamic terrorists that killed him. but it didn't end there with both speaking with the sunday shows. >> what sacrifice have you made for your country? >> i made a lot of sacrifices. i work, very, very hard. i created thousands and thousands of jobs. tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. >> those are sacrifices. >> sure. i think they're sacrifices.
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when i can employ thousands and thousands of people and take care of their education and so many things. even in the military i was responsible along with a group of people for getting the vietnam memorial built in downtown manhattan which to this day people thank me for. >> do those constitute the sacrifices that you were referring to? >> i appreciate his statement calling my son a hero. and making this clarification and statement. i appreciate that. but it sounds so disingenuous because of his policies. because of his rhetoric of hatred of division of dividing us and that's why i emotions ploer him to read the constitution. >> trump really gets pounded yesterday for talking about the sacrifices that he made almost in real time after making the
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statements and it was stories on fire the rest of the day. >> the sacrifice he made was to make money. that's what he was saying. he built businesses to make money and that was the sacrifice that he made. i don't see how employing people and paying for their health care is a sacrifice. it was a series of terrible missteps. i'll trying to think of a worse interview that i have seen. the closest is for vice presidential candidate and i can't remember something this bad. the questioning of the wife for not speaking suggesting it was for their muslim faith and not being allowed to speak and then saying he didn't have the right to question his understanding of the constitution which is ironic because the constitution gives him that right to question it and then to suggest that he sacrificed as much as khan. it was baffling from start to finish and you're seeing a lot of republicans get very nervous about what's happening now.
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getting incredibly nervous here. >> we're going to show it in a few minutes but what he had to say about yanking out the protection of ukraine from the gop platform. he seemed not to understand that the russians already were in ukraine and then just gave a nonsensical answer. how could a candidate be getting worse by the day. >> he seems to be operating in an alternate reality where some of the facts that are simply facts that have been individual wr -- video taped and documents don't exist. there's been moments in this election where i felt like i have been catapulted back to the middle east where political candidates, politicians, sometimes operate in this
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alternate reality where the facts don't matter. where there's violence in their language and where nothing sticks because the bond between them and their supporters seems unbreakable because it comes from a sort of place of unquestioned loyalty that they have for the candidate or the politician but when it comes to ukraine and what mr. trump said it is very troubling because as many people have remarked this is the language mr. putin has used himself. he said it was the crimeans that decided for self-determination. that's not exactly what happened and it raises a lot of questions about what is diving mr. trump but there's an uncomfortable feeling when a candidate seems to be more in tune with the foreign policy of another country and it raises a lot of
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questions about exactly what his foreign policy is going to be like and we discussed this plenty of times but what i find interesting is this constant interference of the russian aspect in this election. this system here -- or let's say this election so far has been unpredictable but it's still within the parameters of what we have seen in previous elections with demographics and polls, et cetera. once you have foreign interference of any kind this country's system has not dealt with that in this fashion before. >> it's unbelievable and every day it seems there's another connection with russia or miscue, like saying he didn't know they yanked out the ukraine provision, at the convention, just the platform doesn't make sense. also doesn't make sense for him to say yesterday that he didn't
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know who mike bloomberg was and then he said yeah well you when golfing with him and he said yeah i hit it a lot farther than he did too. >> he had to throw that one in. >> how do you go one second. yeah and i hit it further than he did. >> last week in a press conference he said he didn't know putin. that came out of his mouth too after all the love fest between the two of them. >> we'll roll the tape. so he also i guess, singled out khan's wife. >> and got even lower. telling the new york times on friday that he wanted to hear her say something at the convex. >> he said you wouldn't have even let his son in america. >> he doesn't know that. i saw him. he was very emotional and probably looked like -- a nice guy to me. his wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there.
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she had nothing to say. maybe she one allowed to have anything to say. you tell me but plenty of people have written that. she was extremely quite and looked like she had nothing to say. a lot of people have said that. >> in the washington post she explained why she was silent on stage writing in part, without saying a thing, all the world, all america felt my pain. whoever saw me felt me in their heart and she said this to lawrence o'donnell on the last word on friday. >> it was very nervous because i cannot see my son's picture and i condition even come in the room where his pictures are and that's why when i saw the picture on my back i couldn't take it and controlled myself at that time. it is very hard.
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>> now to the russian part of the interview. fighting allegations that the criminal might be supporting his candidacy, donald trump is denying a relationship with russian president vladimir putin despite earlier claims, a lot of earlier claims to the contrary. my head hurts right now. >> what exactly is your relationship have vladimir putin. >> i have no relationship. >> do you have a relationship with vladimir putin or a conversational relationship? >> i do have a relationship and i can tell you that he is very interested in what we're doing here today. he's probably very interested in what you and i are saying here today and he will be seeing it in some form. >> i have no relationship with putin. >> but if you have no relationship with him why did you say in 2013 i do have a relationship. >> because he has said nice
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things about moee over the year. we did 60 minutes together. >> he was in moscow and you were in new york. >> just so you understand he said very nice things about me but i have no relationship with him. >> when i went to russia with t the miss universe pageant he contracted me. >> what do you call a relationship. he treats me with great respect. i've never met him. >> you'd know it if you did. >> i'd think so. >> i was in russia, in moscow recently and i spoke indirectly and directly with president putin. >> never spoken to him on the phone. >> i have never spoken to him on the phone. >> you did say on three different occasions you had a relationship with him and now
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you say there's none. >> whereon what it means by having a relationship. he was saying good things about me but i don't have a relationship with hill. i didn't meet hill. i vnlt spent time with him. i didn't have dinner with him. i didn't go hiking with him. i wouldn't know him from adam except i see his picture and i would know what he looks like. >> wow, his memory is a little jumbled there. a reminder that in november, he claimed i have the world's greatest memory. it's the one thing that everyone agrees on. and also described himself as having one of the all time great memories though he later claimed not to remember saying it. he told nbc news they tried to set up a meeting with putin during the 2013 miss universe pageant and what he meant by direct communication was a gift and a note from the president. that goes back to what kim was saying about leaders that there's a cut of personality they can say whatever they want
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to say. >> well if it weren't for his fight with the khan's over the weekend his failure to continue to say that putin was a better president than president balm ball would have been the dominant story of the weekend and right now the trump campaign is extraordinarily frustrated with the press. >> it was unbelievable. that was one of the worst interviews and the worst part of it is if he had just not gone on tv over the weekend everybody would have been talking about hillary clinton lying on fox news sunday. obviously lying on fox news sunday and we're going to play a clip of that in a bit but let's go to this. let's go back to russia and you crane. how disturbing that a guy that's made a lot of money working for the russians in ukraine, how
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disturbing that they rip out a plank of a platform that would protect ukraine from further russian invasion and then donald trump says there was never an invasion. and then said he didn't know that they had ripped it out of his plank and it didn't matter because the russians aren't there and then he was told well the russians are there and he said i'm not there. obama is there. >> what russia did in crimea and ukraine, more than anything else that's happened in decades represens a threat to what we say are the rules of the world and the basic rule of the world is you don't use military force to change boarders. that is -- that's essentially what the gulf war was fought 25 years ago. that's the basic principle of how the world operates and russia violates the basic
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principle of how the world operates and what they did in crimea and eastern ukraine. they sent forces not wearing uniforms over the border to destabilize ukraine and they raise questions at the same time about the integrity of alliance relationships is a foreign policy relationship. >> americans for so many years, russia was enemy number one and it seems that many, at least donald trump supporters don't view it that way. don't view putin to be a great threat to the u. s. the way they would isis or what have you so i think going after cyber security which is something that is porn in regards to our relationship to russia or ukraine and crimea
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is something that trump supporters don't see as a big issue. >> and mitt romney said russia was going to be one of the greatest threats to world stabili stability. >> he played more into the clinton campaign's hands with these statements than anything he could have been doing. >> when he said, went on air and said we had nothing to do with this provision and the provision is cause for giving ukraine defensive weapon ri to push back against russian incursions and they removed it it's just not true. my colleague has two rnc sources that said he was the trump campaign that pulled that provision out of the platform and this gets you to the point and it's a difficult one for journalists including myself where we have to figure out what's true and what's not when it coming from the trump
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campaign and this stuff. this seems to be completely out of thin air and made up and it's tough to figure out how to treat something like this but all the evidence is lining up that they're either sympathetic to the russians, have a different world view or something more than that. >> well, and kim, it also comes down to again words meaning nothing in the trump campaign and donald trump himself, he just says whatever comes to mind and doesn't even care that there's a mile of video tape in his rear-view mirror proving that what he is saying is just not true. >> yeah and i think it's a great point but it's very difficult for journalists. are we going to fact check every second of what he says? this election has been very, very difficult to cover one at
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some point further down the line from that clip that you showed, joe, he also says well it all happened under obama anyway so it's obama's -- president ball balm's fault because president obama's foreign policy is weak but that feeds into another narrative which is incorrect. it isn't only under president obama that other countries challenged american power. remember it was under president george w. bush that russia went into georgia. that was in 2008. under president reagan, israel defied the united states and went into lebanon. there were stair downs between american soldiers and israeli soldiers in lebanon so the idea that mr. trump is going to bring back this time when america was never challenged by others is simply not a reality. >> can i jump in? because the mike pence statement to clean all of this up offered late last night says that his son died because of the policies
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of barrack obama and hillary clinton. he died in 2004. barrack obama was a state senator in 2004. >> and mike pence voted for that war. >> exactly. >> and donald trump supported it. >> the other point is what i found very troubling with the khan episode is that every time the family's name comes up mr. trump and his surrogates bring up islamic terrorism and the insenuation that you must bring up terrorism is very disturbing. what he said that she stood there as a subdued wife and probably wasn't allowed to speak. well she showed him that she could speak but saying all arab women are downtrodden, mr. trump probably never met one because i can tell you they're pretty fooisty. >> thank you for being with us this morning. greatly appreciate it.
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and still ahead on morning joe we're going to get back to the video tape with donald trump's statements from sunday but up next, it's her turn. the democratic nominee standing by her old defense. the one that the fbi has already told us just isn't true about classified e-mails. but first, here is a look at some serious flooding near baltimore. what are you looking at? >> have you seen these pictures? looks like a kid playing in their bathtub with with cars. this is downtown baltimore. saturday night 11:00 p.m.. this is maryland. incredible stuff. they he had 6 inches of rain in 90 minutes and three inches of that rain fell in 30 minutes alone. they did the human chain to get that lady out of her car and she could have been someone that could have been in serious trouble. two people perished in these floods. we he had a lot of thunderstorms and downpours and now we have a
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loan thunderstorm on the jersey shore. this afternoon it's so humid. sunshine will pop up. hit and miss storms. a slight chance of isolated flooding but nothing like there. we have a lot of flash flood warnings. this is life threatening stuff going on now through the heart of central missouri. a lot of reports of roads closed because of water on them and the heat wave continues texas through the middle of the country and we'll dodge those thunderstorms on the east coast come this afternoon. washington d.c., you're looking warm, you're looking humid near 90 today with a stray storm likely later on this afternoon. you're watching morning joe. we'll be right back. powers the. communication. that's why a cutting edge university counts on centurylink to keep their global campus connected. and why a pro football team chose us to deliver fiber-enabled broadband to more than 65,000 fans. and why a leading car brand counts on us to keep their dealer network streamlined and nimble. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink.
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so over the weekend hillary clinton talked to chris wallace at fox news and tried to characterize the fbi's finding on her classified handling of information. after presented be some of her stalts about her private e-mail server. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified materials. >> i am confident that i never
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sen nor received any information that was classified at the time. >> i had not sent classified material nor received anything marked classified. >> after a long investigation fbi director said none of those things that you told the american public were true. >> chris, that's not what i heard him say and i thank you for giving me the opportunity to, in my view clarify. he said that my answers were truthful and what i have said is consistent with what i have told the american people that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the e-mails. >> but in a congressional hearing on july 7th, director comey directly contradicted what you had told the public. >> secretary clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails both sent and
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received. was that true? >> that's not true. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified material. was that true? >> no, there was classified material e-mailed. it not only directly contradicted what you said but also said in that hearing that you were extremely careless and negligent. >> well, chris, i looked at the whole transcript of everything that was said and what i believe is number one, i made a mistake not using with two different e-mail addresses. i have said that and i repeat it again today. it is certainly not anything that i would ever do again. i take classification seriously. i relied on and had every reason to rely on the judgments of the professionals with whom i worked. >> oh my god. oh my god. she just blamed people, professionals that she forced to
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communicate with her through an unsecured e-mail. you know, trump, the volume of trumps lies from yesterday it's hard to get your arms around it because it's like trying to drink from a fire hose. but hillary clinton, her performance was just as stunning on this one issue. first of all claiming again that she did not send or receive classified material after comey told us all that was a lie. that she did. this is what i don't understand. we know she is lying. she knows she's lying. the voters know she is lying. so when she goes out and lies on top of a year of lies all she does is drive down her honest and trustworthy numbers even
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more and then at the end, it was a fact that she then blamed state department professionals and ambassadors across the world who she forced to communicate with her. it was mind boggling. it's just kind of impossible to lie anymore about a topic than she did yesterday. >> the most effective part of her answer was she said she made a mistake and she wouldn't do it again. and that ought to be her position on that. >> say that and move on. >> just leave it at that. >> what is interesting about this weekend because what you have just gone through t two set of interviews is each side is trying to make this a referendum
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on the other but that ought to be the discipline. all of these own faults, all of these people making their own stakes. and what the platforms really are -- >> who doesn't do that on a sunday night in july. >> late sunday night in july. >> but you read them and they really are indictments of the other person. they are setting up an election that's a referendum of the other candidate. so the last thing you want to do is feed that beast. >> he did a gourmet meal. >> talk about a self-inflicted
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wound. you can't believe that trump isn't getting any better. i just gasped that she would still be making the same mistake that she made at the un after the fbi director said she is lyi lying. >> the verdict has come down. you have been politically indicted and just simply say what she has said after she was cornered. you know what, i made some mistakes. i wouldn't do it again. i am so sorry. >> this is a series of
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self-inflicted wound starting with the initial decision to set up this to begin with. >> why is she still doing it this late? >> she's had an incredible convention. >> sure. >> they pulled off just an incredible convention and then she goes on sunday and reconfirms what all of her fierces critics always said about her. >> so there was a difference between his initial presentation and the hearing he had before the house. it was revealed in that hearing that the number of e-mails that were classified and marked classified which is an important distinction here was all of three and two of them were erroneously marked classified so they feel like well okay we were thrown under the bus in that initial press conference. >> that's what they say. that's not what the -- >> i'm telling you. you ask me why they do this. >> the fbi director did not say that. >> he did say that and then you
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have the state department saying there's 22 or 23. >> she should have known also. that's another part of it that he is saying. anyone in her position should have known this was classified information she was sending through her server. >> it was right and should have just left that to begin with with is the smart thing to say sy screwed up from the beginning i screwed you. i feel bad about it. i'm glad it's over with. let's move on but to relitigate this and try to get cute with the language and to be legal about it it doesn't do her or her campaign a service here. >> the next hour we'll be talking to the clinton campaign manager about all of this. perhaps donald trump wants a mulligan after his latest
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comments about michael bloomberg. we'd like to thank george for providing us a lot of material for the entire first hour of morning joe. that's about as much material as you can ask for. >> it was a historic interview. >> it was a historic interview. we shall explain all of that straight ahead. le miles on stuff you bought from that airline? let me show you something better. the capital one venture card. with venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase... not just...(dismissively) airline purchases. every purchase. everywhere. every day. no really! double miles on all of them! what's in your wallet? now? excuse me. again? be right back.
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>> okay. so really, really stupid things that politicians said yesterday. >> this may be your favorite one, joe. donald trump also went after michael bloomberg in that abc interview accusing him of cutting a deal with hillary clinton for a job in washington. trump slammed the former new york city mayor a week after a blistering attack at trump at the democratic national convention. >> michael bloomberg couldn't get he elected dogcatcher in new york. >> he was a good mayor. >> his last term was terrible. he did a terrible thing his last term and a lot of people didn't like him. spent a fortune to get elected. he had a lot of problems. personally i think he made a deal with hilary where he gets a job because michael bloomberg has wanted to run for president for probably as long as you have known him and guess what, he never had the guts to do it and
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now i see this guy up on stage saying negative things. he knows nothing about me. he's never been to my office. i don't know him well. >> you play golf together. >> maybe once. and i hit the ball a lot longer and a lot better. >> i don't know him. i don't know him. yes you do. >> and i hit the ball a lot longer. >> the undertones, man. >> i don't know him. i don't know him. i don't know him. >> you went golfing with him. >> yeah and i hit the ball a lot longer. >> anybody that knows bloomberg's personality knows he couldn't work for somebody else. >> couldn't work for somebody else and if you meet michael bloomberg you know you met michael bloomberg and do we have that picture going to break. let's see there. is that donald trump and michael bloomberg and bill clinton.
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>> that's joe tory and billy crystal. >> did donald trump really forget he was standing there. >> that's in contrast to what trump thought of bloomberg during his final term in office. >> he said he had a horrible final term in office. >> that snow. >> remember the snow removal. >> well he praised him for doing a great job as mayor of new york city. >> please explain this to us because we want to understand. >> we'll remind everybody michael bloomberg is my boss but donald trump just takes these positions that he doesn't know somebody unless it's in his interest to know them and you can't criticize them if he's never met them. >> but how do you say, i have never met michael bloomberg. i don't know him when he has to remember that he went out golfing with bill clinton, rudy, billy crystal, michael
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bloomberg. >> well, might not remember anybody else. >> he's standing next to michael bloomberg. it's not like he's back in the pro shop getting a golf club. >> it's a pattern of saying what he wants to say in the moment and he doesn't realize that at this stage it's only going to distract from what they would like the discussion to be about. he said so many things that are going to be unpacked not just this morning but awhile and fewer than 100 days to go. does he want this to be about whether he knows putin or bloomberg. >> it's just stupid. it's just staggeringly stupid to be making these mistakes. i oucould call them rookie mistakes but rookie politicians don't even make these mistakes. we have been waiting for a major media poll to come out and one has come out that's shown quite a move by hillary clinton. the cbs new york times poll had
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the two tied at 42% before the poll. this morning, after the conventions, the poll, what are the exact numbers again, alex? >> clinton 46, trump 39. >> so that's quite a spread. so we will get more information about that poll. also we have our must read opinion pages. coming up next, mika. we'll read them to you when we come back on morning joe. ♪ only those who dare drive the world forward. introducing the first-ever cadillac ct6. i'(di it.d.
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>> i have any own ideas. he's not going into ukraine. he's not going to go into ukraine. you can mark it down. >> he's already there. >> well he's there in a certain way but i'm not there yet. you have obama there and frankly that whole part of the world is a mess under obama with all the strength that you're talking about and all the power of nato and all of this in the meantime he's going away. he takes crimea. >> but you said you might recognize that. >> i'm going to take a look at it but the people of crimea would rather be with russia than where they were and you have to look at that also. >> that reminds me of a painful episode. >> how so. >> well, he is doing something on the history of russia and and made the mistake of blaming fdr
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and said that the soviets were allowed to roll their tanks into eastern europe he wrote on my paper, western they already there? and he said good point. >> good thing you didn't do that interview. >> exactly. that's exactly what happened yesterday. he is not going into ukraine and channelling him, isn't he already there? he is. it's amazing that they yanked out that part of the platform after criticizing obama for not depending ukraine. >> it's been whether lethal defensive systems or whatever to ukraine and the president has gone against most of his senior
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advisors and it was something you would have thought the republicans would have done as an area to differentiate themselves and look tougher than the administration and apparently obviously not and you read the language of both platfor platforms, again, something i did on sunday night and there's surprising similarities. >> there's better things to do when you can sleep. with us now is elise jordan. her new piece for time magazine says this is how the trump campaign may have interferes with russian policy. it's telling when they suddenly care. especially when trump's campaign is run by mapaul mamafo are rt. the next morning texas delegate introduced an amendment calling for lethal defensive weapons for
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ukraine. the co-chair tabled the amendment telling the group that they were rnc and trump campaign staff who would like to work with the subcommittee on the language before a vote. it was the first and only time an amendment was tabled before the final approval of the platform. a pro-trump delegate suggested modifying the language which passed the committee. a leading theory in republican foreign policy circles is trump is so disenfwajed from policy and certainly the platform. i'll let everyone read the rest of it. it wasn't quite completed in the teleprompter but the point is that trump would be so disconnected from foreign policy and caring about the platform and foreign policy issues inside the platform. >> so why would trump suddenly inject himself? i spoke to multiple dell fwats
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there in the room for this debate and discussion and then another delegate that said that specifically trump staff members bragged to her they had to take this directly to mr. trump and this is just telling on multiple levels. either trump was involved which i find highly unlikely or someone at the top level was. >> if you do it and the russians escalate, it's a legitimate foreign policy debate but it's not one issue in isolation. it's in the context of questioning american commitments to nato and other issues with russia and the campaign is taken
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a denine view. >> and the baltic states also came into question. >> he's just up ending traditional american commitments to nato and it's really scary in your european allies. what i find disturbing too is because this is his major client, his last major client it looks so unseemly to have a lobiest at the head of your campaign and then to have one issue that would be a particular concern to your former clients given top billing, top policy billing in the rnc platform committee. that's just very strange and they're sick of special interests. they thought trump would stand up to special interest and now the same thing is happening again. >> and the question is, is he getting money from russia?
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is his business built on russian loans because american banks stopped loaning him money? those are questions that are going to keep being asked and he's not going to release his tax returns but we can talk about him up ending foreign policy tradition and there's a pattern here. he always seems to up end american foreign policy tradition in a way that benefits putin. >> exactly. >> what about syria? first time since 1973 the soviet versus been in syria and now russia in syria. i'm not so sure about defending the baltics and now ukraine, yanking it out of the platform. >> and the last client, the former head of ukraine is seeking refuge is being protected by vladimir putin in russia as well and at least own
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a position. if you think, if you support putin's position that he invaded ukraine for the benefit of the crimeans then own that decision but southeast flip flopping. one day saying he doesn't know putin and the next day saying he is not in ukraine so that's what makes it all so confusing too. >> let me just say we're all so confused. we'll be right back. and mixes crisp vegetables with all white meat chicken and bakes it to perfection. because marie callender knows that making the perfect dinner isn't easy as pie, but finding someone to enjoy it with sure is. marie callender's it's time to savor and know there's even more to savor with family size pot pies. americans are buying more and more of everything online. and so many businesses rely on the united states postal service to get it there. that's why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes
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>> you know what, have been saying let's just beat her on november 8th, but you know what, you know what, i'm starting to agree with you. i'll tell you. you know what i do, i've been nice but after watching that performance i don't have to be so nice anymore. i'm taking the gloves off, right? yes. right? just remember this, trump is going to be no more mr. nice guy. tell hillary i'm not going to be nice anymore. i've been very nice to her. >> taking the gloves off. the model of restraint says no mo more mr. nice guy.
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we have the president of the council on foreign relations. richard haas. and former advisor to senator rand paul elise jordan. and senior political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post. also former campaign communication director and msnbc political contributor. let's start with a new poll out this morning. the first national poll from a major news outlet since the convention. >> and hillary clinton did get a bounce coming out of the democratic convention. the new cbs news poll gives her a 7 point lead over donald trump 46 to 39% after being tied at 42% last week after the republican convention. clinton's bounce is similar to the ones president obama received after the conventions in 2012 and 2008 but short of the bounce bill clinton received in 1992 and ten points for al
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gore. >> he got the ten points because of a kiss. i never screamed as loud as i have watching tv. >> why did you have to bring that up. >> you retraumatized me. >> i screamed at the shining but that -- >> this is breakfast. >> sit breakfast. >> kids don't even ask your parents what that's about. >> it's not worth it. >> do not google it, please. >> it was a kind molt. >> a kind moment. >> clinton even got an 11 point swing to her benefit on fav favorability after the convention. >> drop the balloons. 36% of americans have a favorable view. >> and tropical waving 6 points to a 50% unfavorable rating. 73% of those that voted for bernie sanders in the primary are now with clinton. up from 67% earlier in the month. >> a little bit of sunlight
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there. >> that's at the high end of what her bounce might be after the convention. in a national poll but they executed a really good convention. now of course we'll see if it settles back down and i suspect this is, again, as good as they could have gotten and pretty solid and helps them in the short-term. a lot of democrats may be able to win this race in the next couple of week ps they continue to per forl and execute and continue to have problems. >> you look at the numbers, even when the two were tied there were a lot of articles talking about trump's very narrow path forward. a lot especially this week in saying he has to do things that republicans just don't usually do to win it. now it will be interesting to see what the sweep stakes look like in the next few days but here 46 to 39 is quite a gap for donald trump and makes actually that electoral college map more
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difficult. >> if we're looking at a national margin of 5, 6, points for hillary clinton there's not going on the an electoral college path for donald trump. that comes into play if he can get this down to an even race. down a point or two then the path could present itself but when you talk about what the narrow path is too, it's real simple. you just take the romney states from 2012 and you say trump holds them all. that's a big if but if he holds the romney states from 2012 his most direct route would be ohio, pennsylvania, florida. there's reasons he could have trouble in all of those states, that would put him at 273. he would be just over the number but then the other big problem is you're looking at one of those romney states from 2012, north carolina where donald trump seems to be behind right now and demographicicly he has a real problem there. so if he loses a romney state from 2012 that makes it that much worse. >> we're not even talking about
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utah. the safest of all republican states. donald trump neck and neck. somewhere in the high 20s in utah. >> he has got to show his supporters in the next couple of weeks that there's a sensible path and the one steve layed out is the one people are looking at most. that's no margin of error. he has to win all three of the big three and he can't lose any of the romney states so right now he has to show people that in terms of advertising and his own performance that they can be in this game but any republican would be behind in the electoral college because of the democratic strength and he's not showing right now an obvious path. >> relying on florida with the hispanic population that there is in florida, i think it's going to be rough. >> can't win without florida. >> i know we can win without florida. this race is florida, florida, florida. if he doesn't win florida he doesn't win. then you look at his numbers
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with hispanics right now. it's hard to see how he wins florida. hillary clinton's road trip over the weekend went to two battleground state where is the stakes could not be higher. the democratic nominee is up 9 points in pennsylvania but a dead heat in ohio and the new york times says those states along with florida will make or break donald trump's chances as casey hunt reports it's no surprise that hilary is hitting the ground hard. >> three days. >> hello harrisburg. >> and 650 miles, hillary clinton this weekend road tripping across the rust belt. >> the first time i campaigned on a bus and came to pennsylvania was way back in 1992. >> in between stops her new running mate taking a few lessons. >> i learned more on the bus in the last 8 hours about politics than i have learned in 22 years. >> when bill clinton ran in one year this was fertile ground for
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democrats. now out the window it looks like trump country. clinton's challenge is winning over voters the new economy has left behind. >> i'm not satisfied with the status quo, are you? >> no. >> if donald trump is actually going to be president of the united states he has to win the voters who live along this bus route from western pennsylvania into eastern ohio. and the clinton campaign is worried that he could. >> why? trump's simple message is breaking through. we're going to put the miners back to work. >> clinton trying to punch back as her bus tour wound through johns town and pittsburgh in pennsylvania. youngstown and cleveland and ohio. >> i know that there are people here in the valley who think they want to support trump. ask your friends and neighbors is this somebody that really cares about the people of the valley? >> her campaign trying to
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convince voters that trump is a con man. >> a lot of people don't know about donald trump either so there may be a sense of sounds good. a rich guy going to fix all of our problems but they're starting to catch on. >> it's not an easy sell with americans that feel the system let them down. >> people look at them as angry white men but they want somebody out there fighting for them. >> so, i have to say, casey, i have been surprised over the past few weeks about ohio. polls go up and down but donald trump holding his own. something not easy for a lot of republicans to do and you think especially for donald trump in a state that is a swing state every four years. >> the challenge i think is grappling with how exactly is trump's unique qualities as a candidate going to change the
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landscape here. the valley is up by youngstown as in eastern ohio so that's a lot of these blue collar voters. many traditionally voted democrat. they were union guys. now more republican and they tend to be less college educated. can donald trump drive up the numbers there? he won the primary there without losing these john kasich republicans. democrats are confident they can pull over some of the more moderates. a lot of republicans live in this area that democrats think they might be able to win over. so is challenge is are there more or less of them here? that's true in pennsylvania as well. you also have the mitt romney republicans that live in the philadelphia suburbs and democrats similarly think that they can win there the one point
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i would add i had a lot of people comparing what she did here to that bus tour that bill clinton and al gore did in 1992. is that going to be as great as when we got to run up and ask them questions any time we want? the answer is it was nothing like that and hillary clinton taking only a hand full of questions at the end of the trip when it was clear that every question was going to be about plflt khan and donald trump's comments and the beginning of the show so the entire back and forth played into her favor. one question wasn't about it and it was about the debate schedule. trump said the nfl sent him a letter saying it should be rescheduled because it's on the night of a football game. the nfl saying that's not the case but at the end of the day, this was not the kind of free wheeling old school politicking that bill clinton did when he
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ran for president. >> the cbs poll shows donald trump behind. how important is this weekend? every two at as something happened in donald trump's campaign and people say this is the end of the donald trump and a week later. >> i would not be surprised if a week later they're tied up again. that's how a lot of races like this happen. trump moves 3, 4, 5 points ahead after his convention and then it's tied up. hilary moves 7 up and then it's tied up. do you think the khan controversy is going to have lasting impact with these voters? >> i do. the reaction was inappropriate and tone daef and he was on all the shows this weekend explaining in a very articulate way about how much he loved this
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country and how much his son loved this country and his son was a hero and donald trump had a black soul and was incapable of showing empathy and it's hard to argue that wasn't true. >> what do you think? >> the empathy you can have for anyone losing a child and his response was repulsive. you can be a hardcore donald trump supporter and say what's with this. you can't compare losing a child to your business and employing people. that shows a complete tone deafness. >> let's talk about this story and get people caught up. >> let's get to the latest on donald trump's response to the parents of a soldier killed in iraq. they took the stage of the dnc to condemn trump's proposal and
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sames about muslims. he said trump sacrificed nothing and no one and questioned if he even read the u.s. constitution. in a statement saturday the trump campaign responded saying in part, captain khan was a hero to our country. the real problem are the radical islamic terrorists that killed him but it didn't end there with donald trump and khan speaking with the sunday shows. >> what sacrifice have you made for your country? >> i made a lot of sacrifices. i worked very, very hard, created tens of thousands of jobs. built great structures. i had tremendous success. >> those are sacrifices. >> sure. when i can employ thousands and thousands of people, take care of their education and so many things, even in the military i was very responsible along with a group of people for getting the vietnam memorial built in
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downtown manhattan which to this day people thank me for. >> do those constitute the sacrifices that you were referring to? >> i appreciate his statement calling my son a hero and making this statement but it sounds so disingeneralo dis dising disingenous because of his stances. >> donald trump is tweeting out. mr. khan that does not know me viciously attacked me from the stage of the dnc and is now all over the tv doing the same. nice. you look baffled. >> when you're in a hole, stop digging. stop digging. this is not just digging with a
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small shovel. this is digging with one of those big earth movers. >> it's what we said with hilary lynn on the and continuing to deny she sent classified material. stop digging. both of these candidates but of course donald trump far more. is there no one around him that can say even if you don't have it in you, show a little graciousness toward a father and a mother that lost their son and stop fighting. stop debating. stop tweeting at a gold star mother and a grieving father. the story would go away. he's fuelling the story and it's not positively. unless he thinks that him beating up on muslim americans that lost their son fighting
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muslim extremists. he's never going to win a fight. he's never going to win a fight with with them and he's lucky this occurred over a weekend when congress wasn't in session but the longer he fights with them the more likely it is that every republican candidate in the country and republican leader will be asked to weigh in on what he's doing. the mike pence statement last night would have put it to bed but he's going to continue to fight with them and roger stone, one of his advisors is questioning the background of the khans in a way that's only going to extend this and every day he's not talking about the economy is a day when his chances of winning are less likely. >> he's in this race. he could win the race but there's fewer than 100 days to go but if he wants to talk about the khans and putin, his chances are lower. >> not to mention they represent everything beautiful about the immigrant story to this country. they came here and their son
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served this country. their other son started a business here. mr. khan completed his education in this country. we should be embracing this family and talking about them as who they are and what they represent as immigrants to this nation and instead he's be littling them. >> they do have a line. the reason their son died is iraq is in bad position because of the policies of obama and clinton. that's an argument they were planning to make in this race and they could be making it. >> their son died in 2004 when barrack obama was a state senator. hillary clinton did vote for the war. so did mike pence. donald trump supported the invasion initially but one thing that we're missing here is there are things trump could be talking about other than this. gdp growth, that number came up three days ago. have you heard a single word from the trump campaign. >> by the way, he could be saying every day on the campaign
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trail, this is the slowest recovery, if you want to call it a recovery, since 1949 and he hasn't said a word about it because he's picking on the parents of a dead american soldier that is a hero. >> he's proving the point hillary clinton made in his speech which is he can get riled up from the smallest provocation. a tweet or statement and it could derail him for three days and i do think that is a valuable insight to the president he could be. if he can't handle this basic criticism. it's a tough criticism but a basic criticism if he can't say yes let's move on, it does say something about how he would handle himself in the white house. >> there's been some question about how republicans throughout this entire campaign have viewed muslims, muslim immigrants, people that want to immigrate
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here. i can tell you in areas that i represented and you have been all across the south in areas that are strongly in trump's corner and if you look at the polls, like his ideas on lim limiting immigration to the united states. when you do that you have just done something and i will not use the word on an american hero and his family and you have basically spit on an entire band of brothers i can't imagine how this is playing in fort walton beach or crest view in a fla or pensacola florida.
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people may be supporting trump in most of those places but things like this make them angry. back off. he is a hero. he is an american hero and if you want to be our commander and chief stop knocking his family. >> well, forgive me for being a little bit politically crass here but the clinton campaign baited donald trump. that was in her speech and he took the bait and it's the replacement story. he should be talking about gdp and job growth but instead he is relitigating. his son is a hero. talk about him as a hero and move on and instead, he put out another tweet so he has given the story legs and what he fails to realize is because he is
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giving it legs, everybody is going to be talking about that and we're not going to be talking about prosecuting the case against hillary clinton and it's another lost day and the clinton campaign has been and will be disciplined. so if they can keep being disciplined and raising more money and resources and being more organized and use donald trump's weakness against him which is bait him and he will continue to do it. it's a real problem going forward. >> one of the most memorable lines. if you can bait a guy with a teet, how do you trust him with the nuclear codes and here you have any disciplined republican campaign would be hammering hillary clinton for what she said yesterday. trying to rewrite history. the slowest recovery since 1949. they would be talking about how jobs flooded out of pennsylvania and ohio.
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donald trump is continuing his fight against a gold star mother. >> we're talking about the new poll this morning and seeing the two conventions cancelling each other out. donald trump factoring in the bounce from the democratic convention. this raises the question if on top of the convention is there going to be more of a bounce for hillary clinton or more of a price to pay for donald trump because of this story dominating the news for a few days and maybe dominating it for a few month and the other question, it's not just does trump fall in the polls because of this, but at a certain point when you pile this on top of everything else and everything that will probably come between now and november, it's just not a question of does donald trump keep dropping, it's a question of is he imposing a ceiling on himself so that if he ever does run a more disciplined campaign, a more focused campaign like you're talking about, has he, through what he has tun this summer, this spring, this winter, this entire campaign to
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date, has he alienated enough potential supporters that even if he begins running the discipline campaign you're talking about he's not going to be able to get above 46, 47, 48. >> making republicans on capitol hill twist in the wind. senator mcconnell had the strongest and most encouraging condemnation. paul ryan did as well but he said i stand with the khans and nobody saying i take my endorsement of him we have a lot more to talk about. i'm going to stop here. thank you. thank you as well. but mr. and mrs. khan will join us live in our 8:00 hour and
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>> can you believe he is still tweeting? >> maybe he was hacked. >> maybe he was attacked by the russians. >> we're joined now by robbie mook and also the author of the book democracy black and a man that says he has a mediated relationship with the bible. i have no idea what that means but i like it. how could hillary clinton say that she did not send or received classified e-mails.
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she said that yesterday on fox news. it was a shocking jaw dropping moment. >> well first of all, she said this was a mistake and apologized. >> so let me ask you this, could you not go to her before that interview and say to her, madame secretary, just say it was a mistake and don't say anything that you said in the u.s. press conference and let's move along. >> no, she would encourage me to tell her to tell the truth. but she said this is a mistake multiple times and apologized for it. what he said was there was no basis for her to believe that she had any reason to believe they were classified. >> he said a reasonable person in her position should have
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known they were classified. >> but that's leaving out the fact that these e-mails were coming from hundreds of state department employees. these were long time tenured state department professionals that worked for different administrations. they were the ones sending her the e-mails. >> but weren't they forced in that position though? they had no other outlet to communicate with her. you can't put the blame on professionals if the leader is saying he e-mail us at this address. this is the only option you have. >> classified information is sent over a completely separate system. >> i worked at the state department too. >> there you go. >> but you understand. >> that makes it worse though. she was forcing everybody that wanted to communicate with her to move out of the classified realm where you send classified information and then put it on their own servers. isn't that worse?
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>> you just don't send classified information. >> well, you would understand this. the fbi director said she did. >> she did what? >> send classified information. >> what the director of the fbi testifi testified he did not think she knew it was classified. >> it seems to me he said a reasonable person would have known. >> we can't see his e-mails. we don't know if they were marked. we don't know if they were marked properly. we don't know. we're having to rely on what he is saying and included was that he did not believe when she received these e-mails she had any reason to believe they were classified. >> was it a mistake, when she made a mistake was it a mistake to not have recordkeeping that
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allowed her to fulfill her obligations? >> if she could have gone back. >> was that part of the mistake. >> was that a pesk mistake? was that part of the failure she apologized for? >> i don't believe she has spoken to that matter. >> was that part of the mistake? >> you'll have to ask her that question and she has said the choice was a mistake. >> okay but that seems vague. it was a problem for me. not because i have an obligationful was it a mistake that she potentially put classified information at risk which the fbi director said she did because she e-mailed with people that's systems were vulnerable and hers were vulnerable. >> i'm not going to get beyond -- i'll let her speak to what her words mean.
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she said this was a mistake. it obviously created a lot of complication and difficulty. >> don't you think instead of just saying i made a terrible mistake we need to move on? >> i think her saying everything she said to the fbi was true and i can tell you what she said to the fbi is the same as publicly. >> did it come as a surprise to you that the dnc was favoring hillary clinton over bernie sanders. >> dnc has to comment on what they're doing. >> did it come as a surprise to you? >> look i think what is surprising in this situation is that first of all, that the russians hacked and released
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that information but secondly that donald trump was out encouraging that. >> but it appears that your national party despite denials to the contrary favored your candidate and as a democrat i'm wondering if it was surprising and upsetting to you that the dnc faye vovored hilary over be sanders. >> certain staff sent e-mails totally inappropriate and it's completely inappropriate to be targeting a democratic candidate for any particular purpose. so that piece was surprising and it was inappropriate. >> let's move on to russia. and specifically sending arms to ukraine. would a president clinton support sending offensive weapons through ukraine so they can defend themselves?
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she stands with ukraine and believes it's wrong to invade crimea. a lot is frightening and disturbing about all of this. donald trump has been saying the things he has been saying. that the republican platform changed. >> do you believe there's a financial reason for that? do you think that donald trump, because there have been some articles suggesting that donald trump has financial ties with russia and that's -- >> if he released his taxes maybe we would know. he won't release his taxes so we don't know. it's clear that paul manafort in the past his campaign chairman had business dealings in russia. it was reported today. it's unclear whether those financial ties continue and i found it particularly disturbing on topf of this that trump seemed to use the talking points
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on the ukraine just the other day. and then we would know. >> what do you think it suggests about his preparedness for the white house? right? and then i want to connect to to the earlier conversation. there's a sense in which you want to hold him accountable for these positions and for his failure to release his tax returns but there seems to be a reluctance to hold hillary clinton accountable or her for holding herself accountable for making mistakes. so how do you square the kind of heart line you're holding him and the way you engage in what you're doing with regards to the he e-mails and the like. >> let's look at the tax issue specifically. the clintons released their taxes for decades now. donald trump is refusing to do
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so. his decision is different than anywhere else and it is scary. scary that he's not going to reveal this and as it relates to temperament, every single day it gets worse and worse. first he encourages it and then after coming under fire claims it was a joke and you don't invite foreign nations to spy on our country and mettle in our elections. >> do they agree with mitt romney's assessment in 2012 that russia is one of the greatest threats facing america. >> it certainly is a threat. hillary clinton took on vladimir putin many times. >> do you think this is personal because she would go after him so hard. >> we have to let the experts peace this together.
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>> she took on putin a number of times. we have seen potential business connections and the russians are clearly or whoever they gave the e-mails to are leaking them for the purpose of her campaign. >> explain to americans because we were talking about it off camera how americans may not understand the dangers that vladimir putin and russia presen. >> what does secretary clinton say is the greatest danger that comes from russia right now. >> i'd let her speak for herself but what is frightening is russia has been aggressive toward eastern europe and donald trump said he wouldn't defend our nato allies there. senat senator kaine son is in romania mow. the idea that we would somehow let the russians go in there and not do anything about it is frightening and frightening that
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personally i think he made a deal with hilary where he gets a job because michael bloomberg wanted to run for president for probably as long as you have known him and he never had the guts to do it and now i see him up on stage saying negative things. he knows nothing about me. he's never been to my office. i don't know him well. >> played golf together. >> maybe once. >> i hit the ball a lot longer and a lot better. >> what do you say about a man that you say i've never met him before? >> we showed a picture and put it up. we showed a picture of him golfing with michael bloomberg, right next to donald trump and rudy and pill clinton and joe tory and billy crystal. and a baseball game together. a yankee game together. there they are with trump and
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michael bloomberg. those baseball games, sometimes those can last 3.5 hours. >> yeah. >> but no cameras. how could he have expected anybody to know? and golfing. and here's another one. here's michael bloomberg's presidential trial balloon and donald trump also tweeting at the end that he was a great mayor. >> except for the snow removal. >> except for the know removal now. with us oscar nominated film maker ken burns. also nbc news senior white house correspondent. a book i'm going to take home to my daughter but before i do that, why do you decide to get actively involved this year. >> it's so different than any other year. i throw fastballs down the center of the plate with regard
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to american history and celebrate it but as you look at american history this book on the history for presidency for children can tell you that for 2016 years we have had bitterly fought contests between qualified people and that's not the case this time. those of us who have a little by of knowledge of american history are kind of shocked. >> why is it different? >> we have someone so unqualified for this office. >> why don't people care? >> a lot of it has to do with us. i was thinking this weekend that the kahn family came forward. looking around and seeing what's going on most of us don't do what all of us do every morning, which is check all of these things. we have a con man here and it may be the kahn family that
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exposed it. it is susceptible to people that play on fear. people say we don't buy the used car sales men and we don't buy the con men. >> and i learned this morning as far as presidents that you have done in the past with your children what i do with mine. with kate we also, we go through the president. i'll do the first and she does the second. you get to clover cleveland and you're like how did that happen? >> i'll tell you, the first democrat that had won and then he lost the popular vote then won again. >> so he won the popular vote three times? >> yes. only roosevelt has a better track record with that regard. it is a great thing for kids to
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mem mo mem more rise. >> and my five-year-old just -- >> and so grover cleveland, the only president to serve two terms with a term in between known as an aggressive and successful policymaker, could he survive in this kind of environment? >> you know, i actually think cleveland could. i have gone over this. you a sense of the qualifications of the men who have held this job. you know, only zachary taylor had no experience in politics. he had been a military man. he made the sacrifices that the kahn family knows about. everybody has a little bit of this. martin vanburen learned how to
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get along. he kind of figured out all of the political stuff. you have tall wins and lincolns and short ones and big ones. it's a good story but i think this year we are dealing with it. >> do you think donald trump is the -- as a historian do you think trump is the least qualified major party candidate since fill in the blank? >> i don't think no one. two or three have spoke on little, you know, smart phones that their kids or grand kids have done for them. it's trying to avoid us in this chattering class. they are all saying this has never happened. the dean said there is no precedent for this in american history for someone without any credentials. >> why are all of these folks supporting it?
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>> i think we are susceptible to fear and easy solutions. it is the much maligned but very subtle art of ordnance. it turns out that the politicians have to do their job. some ti sometimes it's messy. you need somebody who knows how to get it done and doesn't lie two or three hundred times a day. >> thank you so much. i'm taking it home to kate. she will love it. >> i'll sign it for her. and we are back with much more "morning joe" in just a moment. ching. soon, she'll be binge-studying. now she writes mostly in emoji. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. today, the only spanish words he knows are burrito and enchilada. soon, he'll take notes en espanol.
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you have sacrificed nothing, and no one. >> he said you have sacrificed nothing and no one. >> who wrote that? did hillary's script writers write it? >> the stewardship of this country needs to be in the hands of the person who has mode model compass, who has em pa think. >> what a weekend. didn't exactly get boring after
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the conventions. good morpning. it is august 1st. what does it mean? >> it means mika is in the south of france. this year it is only two months. actually she is not. she is very sick. not very sick, but she can believe the talk. she will be in tomorrow i'm sure. we also have with us managing editor of bloomberg politics. the cohost airs at 6:00 p.m. mark is here. >> lots to discuss. >> and we'll have more with this video tape. you'll get what hillary says about e-mails. >> it's the wolf episode. >> yes. i was here last night. we were splicing it. it will be exciting. also, the news and finance
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anchor, yahoo!. >> i have been on maternity leave for three months. >> in the south of france. >> the kid speaks french though. welcome back. >> thank you. >> and a man who never sleeps, sam stein and bbb correspondent kim godess. i thought this entire weekend was a disaster for donald trump, an absolute disaster, which i think it was. i saw hillary clinton on fox news sunday going i never used any -- i never transmitted any classified material. you sat there going who is talking to her? both of them had horrible
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performances on the sunday show. >> she had overall better performances. parts of it were quite good but what she said about the fbi stuff is a little founding. he went into that with a confrontational way. they tried to put it to rest with a statement from mike pence. there are unanswered questions. >> saying he never met putin. >> the russians. >> it was jerry ford, 1976. the russians aren't in poland. >> yes, they are. >> and now it's the russians aren't in the ukraine. it was baffling. to take us through all of this. >> that's right. trump is facing criticism after his response to the parents of an american soldier killed in iraq. the parents of kahn took to the stage at the dnc to condemn
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trump's statements about muslims. he said trump sacrificed nothing and no one and questions if he even read the u.s. constitution. the trump campaign responded saying captain kahn is a hero to our country. the problem is the radical islamic terrorists who killed him. >> what sacrifice have you made for your country? >> i think i made a lot of sacrifices. i work very very hard. i created thousands and thousands of jobs, built great structures. i have had tremendous success. >> those are sacrifices? >> sure. i think they are sacrifices. i think when i can employee thousand and thousands of people, take care of education, so many things, even in military i was very responsible for getting the vietnam memorial
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built which to this day people thank me for. >> do those constitute as sacrifices? >> i appreciate his statement calling my son a hero and making this clarification and statement. i appreciate that but it sounds so disingenerous because of his polici policies, because of his rhetoric, division, of dividing us and that's why i implored him to read the constitution. >> and trump really got pounded for talking about the sacrifices he made almost in realtime. the story was on fire the rest of the day. >> the sacrifice he made was to make money. that is what he was saying. he built businesses to make
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money and that was the sacrifice he made. i don't see how it constitutes money. it is a terrible missteps here. i'm trying to think of a worse than i have seen. the closest for a vice president shl president. i can't remember something this bad. the questioning of the wife for not speaking suggesting it was because of her muslim faith that she wasn't allowed to speak and then saying that kahn didn't have the right for the understanding of the constitution. the constitution gives him the right to question it. and then to suggest he sacrificed as much as kahn. many republicans getting nervous about what's happening. >> and we didn't even -- we are going to show it in a few minutes but he also, what he had
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to say about yanking out the protection of ukraine of the gop platform, he seemed not to understand that the russians already were in ukraine and then just gave a nonsensical answer. you wondered how could a candidate -- and not only not be getting better at this but seemingly getting worse by the day. >> he seems to be where some of the facts that are simply facts that have been video taped, that have been documented, don't exist. there have been moments in this election where i have felt like i have been catapulted back to the middle east where political candidates, politicians some times alternate where the facts don't matter. there is creeping violence in their language and nothing
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sticks between the bond between them and their supporters seems unbreakable because it comes from a place of sort of unquestioned loyalty that they have for the candidate or the politician. it is very troubling because as many people have remarked this is the kind of language he has used to dismiss the idea. he said that it was them who decided for self-determination. that's not exactly what happened. it raises a lot of questions about what exactly is driving mr. trump. i know we have all speculated about that. there is this uncomfortable feeling that arises when a candidate seems to be more in tune with the foreign policy of another country. it raises a lot of questions about what his foreign policy is going to be like. we discussed this many times. what i find interesting is this
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constant interference of the russian aspect in this election. this system here or this election so far has been unpredictable. it is within the perimeters of what we have seen with demographics, polls, etcetera. once you have foreign interference this country's system has not dealt with this in this fashion before. >> it is unbelievable. every day it seems that there is another connection with russia or another miscue with russia that suggests. he said he didn't know they yanked out the provision at the convention. it doesn't make sense. it doesn't make sense for him to say that he didn't know who bloomberg was and he said you went golfing with him. and he said yeah, i hit it a lot
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farther than he did too. how do you go from i don't even know him. well, you golfed with him. >> just last week he said he didn't know putin. that was one of the things that came out of his mouth. >> we are going to roll the tape. so he also said he singled out kahn's wife. >> it got even lower. he singled her out telling the new york times he wanted to hear her quote say something at the convention. >> he said you wouldn't have even let his son in america. >> he doesn't know that. i saw him. he was very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. his wife, if you look at his wife she was standing there. she had nothing to say. she probably -- maybe she didn't have -- wasn't allowed to have anything to say.
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she looked like she has nothing to say. a lot of people have said that. >> she explained why she was silent on stage saying all of the world, all america felt my pain. whoever saw me felt me in their heart. she said this to lawrence on friday. >> i was very nervous. i cannot see my son's picture. i cannot even come in the room where his pictures are. that's why when i saw the picture on my back i couldn't take it. i controlled myself at that time. so it is very hard. >> and khir kahn will be here at
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8:30. donald trump is deanyinying relationship with putin, despite a lot of claims! what is your relationship with putin? >> i don't have a relationship with putin. >> do you a conversational relationship or anything you feel you have sway or influence over his government? >> i do have a relationship. i can tell you that he is very interested in what we are doing here today. she probably very interested in what you and i are saying here today. i do have a relationship with him. >> i have no relationship with him. >> if you no relationship with him why did you say in 2013 i do have a relationship? >> he has said nice things about me over the years. we did 60 minutes together, not together together. he was in moscow.
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>> that's the thing. >> he said very nice things but i have no things with him. >> when i went to russia he contacted me and was so nice. >> you said for three years, '13, '14 and '15 you did have a relationship. >> he treats me with great respect. >> i don't think i never met him. >> you would know it if you did, right? >> yeah. i spoke indirectly and directly with putin, who could not have been nicer. >> you never spoken to him on the phone? >> i have never spoken to him on the phone. >> you said you have had a relationship with him now you said none. >> he was saying good things about me but i don't have a relationship with him. i didn't meet him. i haven't spent time with him. i didn't have dinner with him.
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i didn't go hike with him. i wouldn't know him from adam except i see his picture. >> his memory is a little jumbled there. a remind their in november he said i have the world's greatest memory. it's the one thing everyone agrees on. he describe as having one of the all time greatest memories but later didn't remember saying it. they tried to set up a meeting during the miss universe pageant. what he meant by direct communication was a gift and a note from the president. it goes back to what godess to what they were saying, they can say whatever they want to say. >> if it weren't for his fight with the kahns over the weekend i think it would have been the
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dominant story of the weekend. >> yeah. >> i mean the trump campaign is extraordinarily with the press. in that interview -- >> it was unbelievable. >> it was one of the worst interviews. the worst part is if he had just not gone over the weekend everybody would have been talking about hillary clinton. how disturbing that manafort who made a lot of money, how disturbing that they rip out a plank of a platform that would protect ukraine and that donald trump says there was never an invasion and then said he didn't know they had ripped it out and
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it didn't mat per. the rush chances aren't there. he was told the russians are there well, i'm not there. >> what they have done in ukraine, more than anything else represents a threat to what we basically say are the rules of the world. you don't use mig tear force to change borders. that is -- and twlas the goal here was for about 25 years ago. go that's the basic principal of how the world operates, what they did in eastern ukraine. they haven't send them over the uniform but it is to destabilize ukraine. i think what maks it so worry some is it takes place against
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other comments donald trump made about nato. so seeming to give russia a past and to raise question about the american alliance relationships is a major foreign policy statement. >> and americans for so many years, when we immigrated russia was enmy number one. many trump supporters don't view putin to be a great threat to the u.s. as isis and what have you. i think what you were talking about is something many trump supporters don't see as a big issue. >> and romney said russia would be one of the greatest threats to world stability. >> he played more into the clinton campaign's hands than almost anything i could imagine him doing. >> yes.
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sam stein, you wanted to get in? >> yes. he said we had nothing to do with this provision. it is cause for giving ukraine defensive weaponry. they said we didn't have anything to do with that. it is not true. he has two rnc sources saying that it was in fact the trump campaign that pulled that provision out of the platform. it kind of gets you to the point. it is a difficult one for journalists. we have got to figure out what's coming from the trump campaign. this seems to be completely out of thin air and made up. it is tough to figure out how to treat something. it is lining up that they are sympathetic or something more than that. >> still coming up, his son was killed serving the united states
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and kahn finds himself debating the meaning of the world sacrifice with trump. hillary clinton gets moreover h -- first we have a check of the forecast, bill. heavy rain happened all through the east especially outside of baltimore. when you see areas that aren't even sup poeszed to be a river this is 11:00 p.m. saturday night and these brave folks formed a human chain to rescue that woman. two other people did parish in this amazing flash flood. they call this a one in one thousand year event. they can go into any given year and the per -- up here we could see isolated areas and about 1
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over the weekend she tried to characterized the finding on her classified handling of information. after being parened with some of
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the statements about her private e-mail server. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified materials. i am confident i never sent or received any information that was classified at the time. i had not sent classified material for received anything marked classified. >> after a long investigation james comey said none of those things that you told the american public were true. >> that's not what i heard director comey say. i thank you for giving the opportunity to in my view clarify. director comey said my answers were truthful and what i said are consistent with what i told the american people, that there were decisions discussed and
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made to classify retro actively e-mails. >> but he contradicted what you told the public. >> she said there was nothing marked classified either sent or received. was that true? >> that's not true. >> secretary clinton said i did not e-mail any classified any classified material. is no classified material was that true? >> there was classified material. >> he also said in that that you were extremely careless and negligent. >> i looked at the whole transcript of everything that i was said. i believe that number one i made a mistake not using two different e-mail addresses. i have said that and i repeated again today. it is certainly not anything that i would ever do again. i take classifications seriously. i had every reason to lie on the
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judgments and professionals with whom i worked. >> oh, my god. she just blamed people, professionals that she forced to communicate with her through unsecured e-mail. >> trumps the volume of trump's from yesterday. it is really hard to get your arms around it. hillary clinton, her performance was just as stunning on this one issue. first of all claiming again as she did, that she did not send or receive any classified material after comey told us all that was a lie, that she did. this is what i don't understand. we know she is lying.
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she knows she is lying. the voters know she is lying. when she goes out and lies on top of a year of lies, all she does is drive down her honest and trust worthy numbers even more. then at the end it was the fact that she then blamed state department professionals and ambassadors across the world who she forced to communicate with her. it was mind boggling. they give her four . it is impossible to lie more about a topic than she did yet. >> the most important part that she made a mistake and she wouldn't do it again. >> right. say that and move on. >> right. >> what you have just gone
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through, the two sets of interviews is each side is try to go make it a referendum on the other. trump last because he put out to much more other stuff. all of these people making their own mistakes but when you -- >> these were all on stairways. >> i went through and reread the platforms. >> who doesn't do that on a late sunday night? it gets your paisley smoking. >> and you have to do it. you read them and they really are indictments of the other person. so the last thing you want to do is feed that beast. >> that's what they both did. >> he did a gourmet meal.
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joe." now let's bring in khir kahn. want to thank both of you for being with us this morning. mrs. kahn, i would like to begin with you, if it's okay. tell us about your son and tell us about why he made the decision he made to go in the u.s. armed forces and any reservations you may have had. >> first of all, that my son was very kind to people and he always loved any of his friends and family and where ever he goes he was loved by people. he always tried to take care of them k even very young boys he
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was their mentor and that's why i think that he decided to go in the army because the discipline that he could pass on, the love he could pass on and the respect he had for the country. he could pass on that too. >> and talk about the respect, mr. kahn that he had for the united states. i ask you this as someone -- i mean i have been very open about it. i have been discouraged to say the least about how muslims have been treated in this campaign. i thought your story was extraordinary and have said so. it is extraordinary because it sends a message to muslims across the road. talk about why your family came to america and why you love
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america and why your son loved him so much. >> thank you, joe for inviting us. we are really testament to the goodness of this country. we have been from day one since we came -- i came here for my education. we saw how wonderfully good this country is, the people of it, the system, the equal protection, the laws, the constitution. i say this after having read and after having lived those values that are enshrined. that was the reason we decided to migrate to this country.
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children lived here. they saw the wonderful values that they can assimilate. they can approve their. we decided to stay and we desighed to move forward. the last few days and the pouring of support and love affirms our believes, affirms our experience that this is, because we live in this society don't pay attention to those values and those blessings. this country is -- this nation is unique in the history of mankind. there is no one like it. >> and you say that people over the past couple of days are coming up to you and hugging
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you, americans, thanking you, thanking your family for their sacrifice, thanking you for raising such a good son who was willing to feegt and d-- and fo this country. talk about how this effects you. >> there was no place we were getting out to eat in rest raubts, on the sidewalk crossing the traffic light. people want to touch, support and wish us well exkend their con condolences. i say there is so much love and it has humbled us. it has made us even more
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grateful. it has affirmed the believes and we made the right decisionment we have the right place and we have an only gags to keep it moving forward. these entmentes are non. we are a fan of your program. these that i have expressed are commonly sad and upd, yet there harley-davidson been statements but it's i maizing silence, sty sense of rebuke, silence asking
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no more. they are saying that we want to say but no more. >> and gep, if you watch the program you may not. when you took out to constitution as a republican, as i i thought it was in the of the most conventions you have ever seen! we watched how incredible it was that it was a muslim american who lost his son in war that delivered that measurage across the world that the american dream is still open to everybody including muslim americans. before i pass it around, we have ruth here with us too. your son right now is in danger
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of becoming a legend, a symbol. could you tell me something about your son so the millions and millions of people who admire what you've been doing, could know your son a little better this morning? >> i would ask the mother of this brave lady to say that. it explains to america what a wonderful they raised. this country, this nation raised. we were only a vessel, which she will share with you the last conversation she had with her son. >> on mother's day, in 2004 in may he called me just to say
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happy mother's day. i was just talking to him, please stay safe. don't be running around. don't be a hero because i knew him. he had the habit of bringing people together and bringing good out of -- you know, he used to bring good things in every person he met. he always brought the people together. that's way i asked him to be because i knew he would do something that would be hard for me. he said mom, i have a responsibility for my soldiers, for my regiment and my people. i have responsibility for them. i won't quit that responsibility.
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i will love -- i love my soldiers so i will be -- i will take care of them. >> and he'll do his job and he did. we always ask the question where did we find such men and where did we find such women. you find them in your son. we thank you so much for your service. mark is with us and has a question. >> thank you! my first time getting to talk to you. thank you so much for your sacrifice to the country and i know talking about it must be so hard. thank you for that. we all would like to understand it better and the story of his life. i'm wondering if any of you regret dwhieng you done and if
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you feel since you entered into this public discussion. >> mark, there comes a time in a tern's life where the burdens that have been placed on us means nothing. we set a tone and we talked about what could happen. we agreed that the only way to say thank you would be to face it. if it publicly so that maybe the dignity, the dignity of the office, stewardship of this office, these are not simple words and concepts. the world watches united states every step it takes. it is our duty.
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it will put such a burden on our souls for the remainder of our lives that we will not be able to build it. so it is that. facing this criticism, of course we have other people we would rather enjoy the rest of the political discourt to say something about it. >> with deputy worked through mr. -- he knows nothing about true sacrifice. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> jump nonand ask the kahns a question. >> i want to once again, thank mr. and mrs. kahn aened also
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mrs. ka hrk n i have ever read. i was so proud to be a part of it. i think one thing voters are getting and so eloquent. her pain is so raw as she wrote in her piece t place that is empty will always be empty. we spoke mother to mother and there were tears on both sides. i guess i would ask mrs. kahn to talk more about what she thought when donald trump suggested that she was being silenced because of islam, because she is very -- she is a very educated woman. we spoke after her morning prayers.
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what should people understand about women and islam and whether you were silent for that reason. >> my religion teaches me, whatever i feel i can say. i can say anything. the thing that i don't hurt others. that is all muslim women have very strong opinions if they have to talk to their husband they can say anything they like to. we are not that type of -- from that type of culture that we will just have to follow the husband. islam teaches us to be equal but we have different responsibilities. at home the wife is in charge. outside, men, whatever he is making home we both got together
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to raise the family. they although if one is bigger and one is stronger you cannot drive the car. you should be very strong muslims. muslims are very strong women and we are really very supportive of our family, our husband, our religion and our culture. >> and i'm told you all have to go but we want to thank you all, thank you both for being with us. we greatly appreciate it. we are honored to have you here. >> all right. we'll be right back with more "morning joe" in just a minute. s powerful machines. but i'll be writing the code that will allow those machines to share information with each other. i'll be changing the way the world works. (interrupting) you can't pick it up, can you?
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