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>> the baby that had a voice that was superior, backstage, mr. trump, sir. but why did you throw that baby out of there? i said, i was having fun. i was so nice, i was so nice. everybody liked me. the baby liked me, the mother liked me. we had a good time. i tried to keep the baby in, but the baby had such a powerful voice. in fact, i want to find out who that baby is because i want to sponsor that baby and that baby will sing some day. >> that's how you handle something like that. welcome back to "morning joe." monday, august 8th. still with us on set, managing editor and co-host of "all due respect." mark halperin and the president
of the council on foreign relations, richard hoss and jeremy peters. >> doesn't donald trump send out a bias report every day? >> we get singled out in a special way by that. he kind of circles in yellow highlighter the headlines that he objects to. >> the days i enjoy the most are the ones where he will send out an article that is positive for him. and three seconds later we'll send out the "new york times" biest report of the day. >> where most candidates see a bump after their convention, donald trump is struggling in the latest wave of polling. in "washington post" abc news poll clinton leads by eight points. 50-42. she doubled the lead since before the republican convention. a mcclatchy/marist poll has her leading. while both candidates are upside
down on favorability clinton's favorables are at their smallest margin since january. >> that's pretty remarkable. her convention really worked. her convention worked for her, as well as donald trump's convention and the polling shows it worked against him. >> for those of us who are in both of those arenas, we could sense the difference. the vast disparity in enthusiasm and energy. the republican convention was very flat. >> yeah. >> contrast that a week later with philadelphia where it's almost deafening in the room. it was sloppy. that was the thing. >> bad production, bad guests, bad everything. >> as far as a display of competency and efficiency, the republican convention was none of those things. but, i mean, what's interesting and i think the most damaging for trump is what the republican convention did not do was consolidate the republican party around him. he is still at about, 80%
according to this latest "washington post" poll and the number of republicans who support him. that may sound like a lot, but there has not been a republican candidate since 1984 who has gone on to win and had les than 91% of the republican votes. not consolidating. >> i don't know if the news get any better. i had multiple sources telling me last night that an independent with a the bng of a lot of republican money is going to launch today. have you heard that? >> no. >> have you heard that, mark halperin? >> no. >> i could be wrong, but several good sources told me that people, republicans from, let's just say never trump land found good money and going to put money behind him. >> the return of david french. >> this is french 2.0. someone like, i mean, i think it will be in that realm. but, somebody -- somebody like. somebody french like.
but, anyway, that would, i think, again, make matters worse. >> hard to get on the ballot. >> there's some difficulties at this point. they're stuck with trump to an extent, are they not? >> you can get on ballots for up to 300 electoral votes. you can bring lawsuits to the other places. at this point the people that are talk about funding this are more interested in trump losing than electing their candidate. >> and giving republicans who are running for office something to say they're voting for who is not hillary clinton. >> right. >> as the that's exactly right. meanwhile, the cbs news, might be wishful thinking, joe. >> you think they are wishfully thinking? >> i do. >> two or three that were thinking wishfully today. >> the cbs news 2016 shows hillary clinton with an eight-point lead in virginia. clinton is up two, but inside
the margin of error in nevada. trump is hanging on to a two-point lead in arizona, a state mitt romney won by ten points in 2012. it's a 15-point lead for clinton in new hampshire, according to wbur and a wsb poll in georgia has the race neck and neck. and another poll in the state, this one for the atlanta journal constitution, has her in the lead there. >> hillary clinton up by four in georgia, supremely bad news for donald trump. >> you have to wonder about the numbers in georgia. i mean, the 2014 senate race being a good reminder of how those could be very noisy and distorted. but if you look at what's happening in georgia and look at what's happening in north carolina. these are demgraphically pretty similar states. they're getting more brown and it's bad news for donald trump. the demographics in those states are shifting just like the rest of the country and they're proving to be places where he's having a more and more difficult
time. >> when it comes to one of the grand prizes of the election, and that would be the state of ohio, governor john kasich cast doubt that trump could win. >> can trump win ohio? >> can trump win ohio? he's going to win parts of ohio where people are really hurting. there will be sections he will win because people are angry, frustrated and haven't heard any answers but i still think it's difficult if you are dividing to be able to win in ohio. >> is there any way that donald trump can change? >> well, you know, there's so much water over the dam now it's become increasingly difficult. but i want unifying. you can either operate on the dark side of the street or operate in the light. i believe that america needs people to operate in the light. plain and simple. >> richard, you look at kasich from ohio, the most important state. you also go and see what's going on in new hampshire. 15-point lead for hillary
clinton. in virginia, double-digit lead for hillary clinton there, too. the electoral map closing in pretty quickly in august. >> because the story one or two months ago was that donald trump could bring into play certain states in the midwest. what we're seeing in today's report is more the opposite that certain states you thought were safely in this column are coming into play for hillary clinton. the arrows are pointing in the wrong direction for them. i don't think it's necessarily past the point of no return. you're under 100 days and times a wasting. at some point do people's impressions start to harden. at that point, it does become too late. >> mark giving a big speech on the economy today, he has a three-step process to make this a competitive race, again. one to bring the national numbers back. that would put georgia and arizona back in the republican column. two is to figure out where his path to it 70 electoral votes is between now and the first debate and where does heravel and
where do they start spending their money. >> he goes where he can get the biggest rallies. >> right. but they largely confind him to battleground states. but can they really put pennsylvania in play? put michigan where he is today in play. they need to make hard choices and it turns out like lots of republicans who think they're going to win michigan say, we're not going to win michigan. >> what about pennsylvania? last two or three polls it's double dirgits for hillary. >> almost no path with pennsylvania. >> did you guys watch the olympics this weekend? >> some of them, yeah. >> one of the things i noticed is ads for hillary clinton all the time. guess who there were no ads for? donald trump. >> no ads for donald trump anywhere. >> that's true. just a reminder of the lack of basic preparedness in this campaign. >> and, again, you look at the lack of the ground game. this matters.
it matters, in fact, more than anything out there. all things being equal, i'd much rather have the great ground game than 30-second ads. he doesn't want any ground game. >> of all the polling questions now that they get asked, the one that is most significant for the trump campaign, not who you are voting for, but who do you think is going to win? one candidate on the field in this race. that's why today's speech is such a big deal. he's got to convince people he can win. >> he's got to be convincing on a number of levels that i don't think is there. >> do you think a speech today and a speech tomorrow and the next day is going to have an impact? i think donald trump will give a speech. a throw away line. there will be a sort of odd thing that he says to a baby. or he'll say something else connecting with somebody in the audience that will be a little off color. i wonder if nick isn't right
when he said last hour that when he said at this point he is not going to get the benefit of any doubt. there's nothing there. he doesn't say anything that is backed up by anything that could be connected in a conversation that shows that he has a deep understanding of the policies. >> that's what they're trying to do today. >> and i'm going to go on a limb and say that it won't happen. it just won't happen. it will be read off a prompter and it will sound good, but it's not enough at this point. it's not enough. >> he'll give a speech and then what happens after the speech? >> the question is whether three days from now or three weeks from now, channeled and rechanneled and rechanneled. that doesn't happen. >> it won't happen. >> he delivers a speech and then he puts out a tweet. >> and as horrific as hillary clinton's press conference on the e-mails was, as horrific as it was, the bottom line is she is a better candidate. and i've heard time and time
again republicans, hard-core republicans that i know very well who i've known for years have to vote for her. it's the safer bet. it's the safer bet. there's no there there. you can't have a press that has no there there. >> no discipline. >> along those lines, i'm really starting to see in the republican party a split between college educated republicans who are friends of mine and those that i had known for a long time that may not have gone to college. and you have a split right down the middle of the republican party right now. it is hard to find a college educated republican that says, i mean, obviously, my brother is one and i know some others that are. yeah, we're going to vote for him. this is a real divide in the gop. >> the great divide. you see it in every poll. >> that's happening in the
democratic party, as well. >> you look at pennsylvania, orr instance. trump is not going to win that state. he can make it closer than some republicans have, but you've got to do better amongst the college educated. again, that's why today's speech is so important. the biggest issue in the race. it's the issue on which on paper he should have some advantages over hillary clinton. but, as you said, he can't give one speech. >> donald trump seized on hillary clinton's attempt at a clarification about what fbi director james comey said about her e-mails. it was a terrible attempt. posting to twitter, anybody whose mind short circuits is not meant to be our president. trump continued to go after clinton at events this weekend with withering attacks. >> unstable hillary clinton and you saw that. did you saw that where she basically short circuited? she said, she did, it wasn't a press conference because that's
around 250 days. but it was in front of some friendly reporters. they asked her a very easy question. and she short circuited. she used the term short circuited. she took a literally short circuit in the brain and she's got problems. i mean, if we had real people, this would be a real problem for her. but i think that the people of this country don't want somebody that's going to short circuit up here. hillary clinton made repeated false statements to the media, congress and the public, right? false statement number one. this stuff is so amazing. it amazes me, actually. honestly, i don't think she's all there. remember, isis is looking, folks. they dream of hillary clinton. they look at her and they say,
this can't be happening to us. how great is this? now, you tell me she looks presidential folks. i look presidential. you tell me, you tell me she looks presidential. they are just watching and they're looking and, boy, they're salivating. they're salivating. they're saying, that's what we want. oh, that's what we want. >> it's like i know you are, but what am i? >> he called her a monster or something at one point. >> well, i like when everybody is questioning his competency he uses that moment to question her competency. always very clear on the isis question. isis, richard, i would guess, not that i talk to them every day, but isis is helping beyond
hope that donald trump gets elected president. a guy who wants to turn the whole thing over to russia. hillary clinton would be the, if, if the leaders in isis know hillary clinton's background the last person they would want in there would be hillary clinton. because, as i've said here and i don't say it commrepletely as a negative. she's a neo-con. active with the military force as barack obama is inactive and you can bet within a month of hillary clinton being elected, if she is elected, she'd start working towards a no-fly zone and a safe zone. things would look radically different. >> two things. more intervention and one thing we would do is not provide more capable equipment to some of the groups we are helping, but no reason we wouldn't take off, we'd be more offensive. secondly, the muslim ban. if you're isis, that's a great
recruiting tool. donald trump is both less interventionist and the friction he's created or whatever we want to use between himself and muslims around the world his anti-refugee policy and the whole question of immigration was something that isis would use to their own benefit. so, i don't think isis is salivating over hillary clinton win. >> it is remarkable that donald trump still seems to be preaching to the choir. that is straight out of a south carolina or a new hampshire or an alabama primary audience. he is still speaking, he is still preaching to the choir. a very, very narrow cast. >> and, obviously, you know, looking at this objectively just in terms of what he could have done with this versus what he's done, it's mind boggling. he's thrown this away. i don't think he wants to win.
he's driving it into the ground because he's bored. i think he's riffing. if i perhaps get a little too personal, i don't think he's sleeping. so revved up from winning the nomination and so revved up by the tweets and attacks coming his way that he can't stop. he can't put his phone down. he can't put his mind down. he can't sleep and i think he is becoming unstable. >> well -- >> ladies and gentlemen, that's mika brzezinski on our segment -- >> i did overnights for many years and i know what it feels like and i know what it looks like. you just can't stop once you stop sleeping. you can't sleep. and then your mind can't stop racing and you make really bad decisions. and you can't listen to anyone. people try to talk to you and you're like, yeah, and you can't listen and you keep doing the destructive thing that you're doing. that i've lived through on a small level.
>> i do think he's a 70-year-old guy. he doesn't sleep much anyway. he's been revved up. he probably hasn't slept in, you know, a year. probably hasn't slept more than three or four hours straight in a year. he works around the clock. but, no, it's not great. i think part of this is he's making one bad decision after another and here is the problem. george w. bush had laura bush to sit him down and say, bushy, you know, you're going to do this. >> and michelle obama. >> sit down. she spoke truth to power. michelle obama, nobody has to even question whether michelle obama does that to barack obama when barack obama needs to be set straight. donald trump right now, malania from everybody that i heard is a very good force, but that's not the role she plays.
>> just think of where we are right now in terms o o politics. >> and, by the way, nobody. my bigger point. i was just saying, donald trump doesn't have anybody around him that can tell him, sit down and shut up. you're going to take a week's vacation. i'm going to burn your phone. you're not going to tweet. let's go. >> he'll win this thing by shutting up. >> anybody that is going to be elected president needs one person around them that can tell them to sit down and shut up. he doesn't have that. and we're seeing what the result of that is. >> one of the more interesting or disheartening developments of the way this campaign has evolved and the way we're covering it as journalists is how frequently now people are openly questioning his mental competency and that is something that has not happened in modern politics. just to question a candidate. well, i think that -- >> for some time. >> i would encourage you to read
my colleague's piece today on how donald trump has kind of upended and torn up the conventional journalistic rule book in terms of covering campaigns and this is one example because you're dealing with somebody who is so different from anyone else we've covered. who is so prone to exaggeration and often outright lies that we as journalists find ourselves in this position of making some very uncomfortable judgment calls about who he is as a person. >> all right. >> and what he wants. i conducted, one of my first ever twitter polls. this is pretty exciting. i've never done this before. >> welcome to the 21st century. >> does real donald trump want to get elected and govern or the biggest pr play in u.s. history? >> good question. >> what do you think the split is? >> well, if it's a twitter poll, i would guess it's pretty decisively against. >> over 1,000 votes. 25% says he wants to win and govern. 75% said it's all about pr and
attention. see, here's the thing, most politicians if they lose, it's the end of their political life. and what they wanted to do their entire life washes away. if donald trump loses and he gets 40 million votes, that's a pretty good marketing play for him. >> yeah. >> destroys the republican party in the process. he's on to starting his own tv network. >> guess who needs a new ceo. >> yeah. >> okay. still ahead on "morning joe" what paul ryan's house race in wisconsin says about the presidential battle this november. "washington post" robert costa sat down with the house speaker and brings up that interview next. hale jackson with new reporting from trump tower. you're watching "morning joe" we'll be right back. (lionel) ♪it's peyton... ♪it's peyton on sunday mornings.♪ (peyton) you know with directv nfl sunday ticket you can watch your favorite team no matter where you live. like broncos or colts.
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together? does it have to be unified? i actually don't think so. i do believe that we can win either way, but it would be nice if we stuck together. >> we need unity in the republican party. i have to be honest, i think i win without the unity. we need the unity to win this election. otherwise our big movement was not as big as we thought. joining us now from madison, wisconsin, political reporter for "washington post" and msnbc political analyst robert costa. just caught up with house speaker paul ryan a few days before his congressional primary. also with us in new york is nbc news correspondent haley jackson. i just want to ask, how do i ask this about paul ryan? does he seem okay with the decisions he's made along the way? >> he still remains endorsing of donald trump. interesting to sit down with him because he does have some
concerns about the party. he brought up this group he calls the all right. this alternative group of conservatives and he thinks this is a movement that he's uncomfortable with. he thinks they're not conservative. they're not really republican and they're playing a role in his primary race here. with regards to his decision to endorse trump when i asked him, have you spoken to donald trump since friday night when donald trump endorsed you, he said, he has not. they have not communicated. >> okay. so -- >> it's kind of fascinating. paul ryan is dealing with the fact that the party he wants it to be is a libertarian conservative party is now wrestling with a populous movement as bob said that has a lot of commonalities and some white nationalists and paul ryan does not want those people in his party, but they are in his party right now. >> but couldn't we define them
differently? you make it sound, how about people who have just been screwed by washington whose wages aren't getting better and who are disgusted by what is going on and want something different. why can't paul ryan speak to those people without clinging to donald trump's coattails. someone he doesn't believe in. someone he doesn't agree with and someone who cannot stand by on fundamental issues that really make america what it is. >> i think probably the party needs a transitional figure. somebody who will come in and forge the divide. former -- >> big obstacles. if he says that, raises the question of why he's not for hillary clinton. two, many of paul ryan's house members would have a harder time winning their election if they broke from the trump people. >> robert costa, why does it seem so simple to me? >> well, paul ryan is in a tough spot in the minds of his allies and his associates because though he has his own
ideological convictions, he has a political duty in his mind as speaker of the house to be a political unifier within the party. that's why you don't see him running away from donald trump, even though he seems to correct donald trump day in and day out on these various controversies. when i asked him, do you think the house is in jeopardy he hedged a bit. he knave a very careful answer. always natural for someone to be concerned about it. >> painful to watch that hedging. i want to go to hale jackson. standing by outside trump tower. today is a big day. an economic speech. tell us what's the plan. >> we have the economic speech, mika, which will run through what we expect donald trump to talk about. talk about why he's doing all this. i was there in the room and the reaction from the audience, overall, was a polightly enth e
enthusienthus enthusiastic audience. when he was reading this list, it sounded almost like he was in a hostage video or something. he was reading from notes and it was clear the words he was using were precise, specific and sounded like they were picked out well in advance and it was clear a couple minutes later that donald trump when he went off his notes was the trump that we have often seen at rallies. more animated and enthusiastic and playing off the crowd more. just kind of striking to see the candidate doing what he has to do and then doing what he wanted to do in the span of maybe an hour at that rally in green bay. when you talk about what he's doing today, he's looking to change the subject. heading to detroit and the title will be winning the global competition. perhaps no surprise for a candidate who has framed this entire candaens around winners versus losers. expaekt that to be the framework for the speech today. stitch together new and old policy proposals under what i'm
told a vision speech looking at tax, regulatory reform and a couple other topics, as well. some notable items. donald trump will talk about a child care deduction of parents being allowed to deduct all child care expenses and cut the corporate tax to 15% and limiting the debt tax. expect this to be sort of a broad overall speech. the question for trump, though, as we've seen so often is will he get specific or how specific will he get and how will he answer the questions after the speech? i don't expect we'll have line items on how he proposes to implement these plans and that will come in the next two to three weeks and the question is, how will he answer to some of these questions from economists. part two, of course, politically, will he be able to successfully turn the page as he hopes to do. >> hallie, is there a way trump can square the circle between his populous side and the more
conventional which paul ryan and gop leaders want to see out of him in this speech? is there a bridge fought in this speech? >> hey. i think, i'm sorry, i thought you were talking to nick. you are asking a bridge between populism and i think there is a way for him to do it. you will see republicans like paul ryan will want to see, go after hillary clinton by tying her as he has been doing as a third term of president obama. watch for him to talk about people out of the workforce right now. some 80 million when president obama took office. i expect he will hit on that stat and hit on the gdp numbers that came out a week and a half ago. that is the messaging that republicans want him to see. at the same time, he is promo promoting this populous message. here's the thing, donald trump has been doing that since the last june or july.
any conservative who thinks it will change is, frankly, in a way diluting them selves a bit that donald trump will pivot into this new candidacy. >> thank you very much. richard, what do you think? >> i think there is a chance he could. i don't know if he will. and the person to look at is the new british prime minister. >> really good point. >> has opened up emerging a traditional conservatism and populism and the left and the populous right and try to square it with traditional conservat m conservatism. >> that is a great, interesting parallel. >> our question is whether donald trump and his advisors look at her. >> the question whether he has the capacity to at this point. isn't that fair? >> basically a speech is an event. the real question is whether you're totally integrating it into a campaign and internalize it. >> we'll take a closer look at her and we'll do that this week.
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give me really good information and i can't rlly blurt it out because they say it to me in confidence. >> and then you do. >> no, i don't. we have the world's leaders calling and texting us here all the time, and we don't usually blurt it out. try to get the information to our viewers as quickly as we can without revealing our sources. but, it does appear that there is going to be a well-funded independent candidate. as i said at 7:04 this morning. a well-funded independent candidate that is going to at least try to get on 20 to 30 state ballotballots. certainly, they still believe they can go past the 270 threshold. this person will be able to be in debates, but certainly aimed, i believe, this is just my c
conjecture. this has more to do with stopping donald trump. mark halperin, are you hearing the same this morning? >> we want to see who it is. who the person is, as nice a man david french is, that effort turned out not to be a real thing. clearly donald trump in the last few weeks has created more of an appetite among some republicans. well-funded republicans who will never be for trump to have somebody they can tell their children and grandchildren they voted for and who could be a player in the discussion so that republicans running for office who don't want to be for trump can say, well, you should vote for me and also vote for this other person. until we know who the person is and how well they are funded, i don't know if we can say this is a momentous thing. but it could be. >> i suspect it will be closer to david french than john kasich. that said, this will be a person that will allow republicans to say, i'm going to vote for this
third party candidate rather than gary johnson. >> could also be a cruise missile aimed right at donald trump. we saw a column over the weekend and consultant saying it's not enough to beat him. trump has to be destroyed. the ground on which he grew has to be salted. he has to be gone otherwise he will rise again. i could also imagine an effort to give a poll and also just to embarrass donald trump in the fall. >> we'll see if we what see said at the top of the hour turns out to be true. we'll keep working our phones. mika, let's talk about a story that is impacting your family this morning. >> thousands of airline passengers around the world are stuck this morning as delta airlines deals with a system-wide computer outage. gabe gutierrez is live at hartsfield jackson international airport in atlanta which is delta's hub and the world's busiest airport. gabe, how is it going?
how did it start? >> hi, mika, good morning. yes, we just learned that delta says that this is all due to a power outage that happened around 2:30 this morning here in atlanta. storms overnight in the atlanta area and now delta is warning passengers to expect large-scale cancellations throughout the day. now, thankfully here at hartsfield literally within the past few minutes things have improved just a bit. the check-in kiosks are back up and running. at least some of them are. that is the large part that helped out the lines here quite a bit. this all started overnight and problems across the country and really throughout the world. issues add newark airport, as well as dfw and thousands of passengers were grounded all the way from rome and london. all the way to lax. many flights grounded and throughout the united states, we're hearing airports saying flights are delayed until at least 7:30 and now possibly even more. and delta is also telling its
passengers that despite what the overhead screens here say that the outage is affecting that. while the flights may read ontime, many cases still delays. the best advice today is to check with delta, if you're flying delta today and get to the airport with a lot of time to spare, mika. >> i wonder if the people have the ability to cancel their tickets -- >> that's tough. i think a lot of those people, mark halperin, able to get around faster if they did like the -- >> this could be a huge ripple effect throughout the day. of course, as these flights are canceled, major issues here, mika. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. >> you know what they say about atlanta in the south, right? >> too busy to hate. >> no. >> city that never sleeps? >> no. >> city of big shoulders. >> in the south when, you know, i lived in georgia, alabama. when you die, you got to go through atlanta hartsfield.
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direction. >> no, you're moving in mine or maybe we're coming together. one thing we're not seeing is the candidate coming together. and there are people now questioning even his sanity. coo you think that's fair? >> i was questioning it over a year ago. >> that makes you so -- >> it does. >> here's your problem. >> precious is the word i come up with. >> she's her father's daughter and she never knows how to meet in the middle. you give us that and we give you the fact that he wins the gop nominee and we figure out where we go from here. >> it's clear 90 days out that they figured out he is going to lose. he's going to lose by historic margins. >> they're now saying it's rigged. >> it's rigged and the fault of the establishment that hasn't coalesced. >> how could it be that the establishment and trumpers couldn't stop donald trump in the primary, but suddenly
they've gained all of this power to stop him actually when the electorate gets larger? it's insane argument. >> because we couldn't block him in the relatively small republican primary. >> how do you block him now? you can't. >> the clear majority of americans who are taking a close look at this guy and thinking nuclear codes, i think not. >> i mean, the point i'm making is that those who are suggesting that there is some grand conspiracy that could stop him in a general election but couldn't stop him when the voting pool was smaller, that's just insanity. he's stopping himself. >> right. he's self-destructing. >> no great conspiracy here. his character has been revealed. >> i think that's right. look, with every week he shoots himself again in the foot. there's an old french saying, worse than a crime, it's a mistake. that's his candidacy. >> what do we, i can't speak for
you. i'm a conservative, i certainly know you're a conservative. how much do we look at our own party and say, well, you look at a lot of polls and in some states 50% of people not only wanted to ban muslims, they wanted to ban mosques in america. shouldn't we, after this election, have a post-mortem not just about the candidates we nominate but the party we're in? >> well, i think the point you're making is an important one and that too much of the republican party became an echo chamber of itself. so, if you spend your time listening to certain cable shows all the time, listening to nobody else, if you're a prone to the kind of conspiracy theories on twitter or certain fringes of the internet, you end up having this kind of conversation that's just increasingly divorced from reality. the people coming over the borders from south of the border is not a horde of libyan
. >> we couldn't block him. >> how do you block him now? >> you can't. we have a clear majority of americans who have taking a close look thinking nuclear codes. i think not. >> the point i'm making is those that are suggesting there is some grand conspiracy that could stop him in the general election but couldn't stop him when the voting pool was smaller. he is stopping himself. there is no great conspiracy here. >> i think that's right. with every week he shoots himself again in the foot. there is an old french saying, worst than a crime it's nt it resisted in this little thought bubble of their own that this isn't a winning form of politics. >> a massive landslide and ron johnson. >> right. i think that's one of the tragedies of the trump campaign. it will take good men and women down with him. >> what this they stand up against him now. does that save him? >> that's an argument i was making last week that the sooner, the more decisively and openly they break with trump
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for that i will try to clarify. >> it was in front of friendly reporters they asked her a very friendly person. she used the term short circuited. she took a little short circuit in the brain and she's got problems. >> wow. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's monday. >> it's monday august 8th. did you have a good weekend? >> i did. i saw that and it kind of reminded me about this election. >> what? i don't understand. what do you mean? >> we'll show you. look at these latest polls. it's kind of depressing and frighteni frightening. managing editor of bloomberg politics mark halperin. >> he is great. >> and nicholas president of the council and foreign relations and richard haas.
>> the new york post not big fans of a-rod. this is a very cold send off. >> and your point is? >> you're a yankees fan. did he ever help you win the world series? >> all in all he was not worth it and too much off the field drama. >> did you win the world series with him? >> yeah, but -- >> will you have won it without him? >> no. >> of course not. he is getting kind of rough treatment. i don't get it. by the way, great article last week on donald trump when he raised all of the money in small donations. if he weren't in the middle of a
self-induced you know what storm. a melt down. >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> it would have frozen a lot of news coverage. everyone would have said that's the game changer. you see him doing that. you talked about if he only pu it back in fundraising he could take it and those numbers are accurate she exce accurate he is exceeding bernie sanders. >> a real problem is what do you invest it on? you get out to vote that they have been working on for years. >> eventually they will spend it on paid advertising. >> yeah. >> it turns out they are web videos. they have got money to spend. they have got to figure out a
way to win with the electoral college but the thing nick said is something that he will have to have if she going to do some of the electoral votes. >> let's get to the lead story today. donald trump is set to focus on policy giving a speech in detroit today on winning the global competition for the committee. he is expected to talk about regulation, trade and the tax code. it comes a time when trump is struggling in the latest wave of polling. clinton leads by 8 points 50-42. she doubled her lead since before the republican convention. fox news puts clinton at 10 points. clinton's unfavorables are at the smallest margin since
january. >> it is a turn around and we actually saw trump do it in the primaries. clinton is down of all of the numbers that jufrmped out at me hearse had 46% favorability is shocking. >> and she closed the gap. she is doing better than him. there are a lot of other questions better showing why she is so far ahead. she still would be losing to most other republican candidates. >> she is doing better despite the fact that she held a deplorable sort of quasi conference. at the end saying i made a
mistake and i learned from my mistake and i was wrong. i am moving on. >> i think it shows how they are to the politics of taking everyone down the road. there wasn't a problem with the e-mail. they were cleared. >> and everybody knows that's not the case. everybody around here -- >> i agree. >> the only person that doesn't know that's not the case is hillary clinton. who can go to hillary clinton and just say -- >> stop. >> i'm not doing to stop. >> tim kaine. >> yeah, tostop. >> it's not always about you. >> tim kaine was asked the same thing. even before tim kaine answered i knew he was going in the right direction. sure enough, he answered it like a pro and swatted it away. >> that's lot of body language in that answer. we'll give it to you in a second
and show it to you. what worried me is there's a bigger picture here. i don't want to say they are koring up because it sounds completely illegal but i think it's a self-serving reason to set up the private server that was completely inappropriate, whether it is to widen the footprint while she was secretary of state or whatever, pair no, i y paranoia. >> right. >> can we not talk about the five e-mails that weren't marked and were marked? it was wrong, all of it. all of it. all of it. >> everybody knows that. >> no. they don't. >> yes. they do. everybody knows that but hillary clinton. hillary clinton needs to say -- hillary clinton needs to say i made a mistake. i shouldn't have done it. i am so sorry.
it was a terrible lapse in judgment. i have learned my lesson. i accept is fbi report. now let's get americans back to work. boom, that's it. lee, stop. did you see the tortured response? it was the most tortured response i have ever seen. >> it is not a good one for hillary clinton. if two-thirds think the country is on the wrong track she is swimming against the tide. what we have seen already this morning is, you noerks about whom is it going to be a referendum? everyone spent talking about donald trump's latest comment, that's a good day but the opposite is also true. every morning is a bad day for hillary clinton and a good day for donald trump wlachlt y. what you want to do is get the issue off of the stage. >> and she was reading all of
this stuff. i will show this and i never want to see it again on so many levels. we have been talking about this. when you talk about it youave to show the viewers. are you ready, dan? here it is. >> are you mischaracterizing director comey's testimony? >> i was pointing out in both of those instances director comey said my answers in my fbi interview were truthful. that's really the bottom line here. i have said during the interview and many other cases that what i told the fbi is consistent with what i have said publicly. i may have short circuited it and for that i will try to
clarify. i think chris wallace and i were probably talks past each other. he would only talk to what i had told the fbi. i do think having him say that my answers were truthful and then i should quickly add what i said was consistent with what i had said publicly. that is really sort of trying to tie both ends together. >> that is one-half of the answer. we are not going to let you hear the follow up to that. your face would be in your cereal bowl. can you imagine diagramming that? you have fact patterns and you diagram them. i couldn't really diagram it. >> everything was hunky dory with the e-mail.
that's their spin on it. >> nobody in america believes it. while we are going over polls let's get tim kaine's response. it was a great response. it was, boom, just like that. >> you really need them to do this. >> you know how somebody duosgop and you're like they are going to get a hit. they were half way through the question and i was like he is going to hit this one out of the park. >> not a-rod though. >> what? >> not a-rod though. >> he won your world series and you're bitter. hillary clinton has an 8 point lead in tim kaine's state. >> yes. clinton is inside the margin of ir ra. trump on a two-point lead in arizona. >> it is still close out west in
new hampshire. another poll -- >> g g has it neck and neck. >> georgia has her in the lead there. >> and let's look at georgia and virginia. you take those states out of the red column and give them to hillary clinton. he is swimming upstream very quickly. >> and also new hampshire 15 points. it is brutal for the state that first got him a victory. >> and in detroit today trying to get back on track. it is things advisers want to talk about is strong foreign trade. if he does that and if he is successful he can get back in the game by labor day. big if in terms of discipline. he has clearly got a majority of
voters on his side. he has to perform better. >> yeah, he performed a little bibetter. what is he going to say in his speech? he will be talking about reviving the committee. i guess that's what he needs to do. >> and the biggest thing is the most recent economic growth numbers. normally it would be a large opening from any candidate. >> our economy pretty much flat lined. >> most job numbers were hot. you have republicans talking about job growth. what is he going to say in terms of infrastructure. what is he willing to do across the board in terms of taxes, spending. >> i'm wondering if it will be read word for word like his endorsement of john mac cane
would truly look as if he was -- >> it was a hostage video. >> it because hostage video. >> do we have that? >> 75-25 today. >> what? >> 75 reading, 25 ad lib. >> how does he get beyond the hostage video? >> he already said he'll say this and this and this. it is kind of locking into t the tele prompter. >> any time they want to lock donald trump down paul manafort will leak it out and lock him down. that's how they got pence. that's how they do it all the time. >> if he talks about regulation, wall street regulation or tax cuts, he can actually like bear down on a traditional republican
stitch wan si th constituency. >> they are gone. the republicans that would vote r him, we are getting rid of the death tax. >> like gone from america or gone from him? >> he'll have to go pop you list. he is speaking to the wall and it would be a little too clever by now. the hostage video, very courageous thing. you had mccain and kelly. >> you have any information on that? >> he put a lot of pressure on trump to do this, to clear the decks. you know, each -- it's fail your to endorse each of them. here is a senator?
a battleground state. if trump wins he will want her back in the senate. so he came under a lot of pressure. he read it and maybe did it g j grudging grudgingly. he had to do it. getting that out of the way -- >> that's exactly how we read it. getting it out of the way. >> and here is tim kaine when he was asked about the e-mails and look how well he handles it. >> i think chris wallace and history were sort of talking past each other last week. she was saying what director comey knowledged to be true. when she was talking to the fbi the fbi thai thought the questions were truth l. he might have been asking her a different question. we r she said over and over again i will learn from it and i
will fix it and i apologize for it. >> i love that he said -- >> let's get to the punch line first. >> yeah. >> she made a mistake and knows she made a mistake. you're not unraveling everything. >> and then clearly trying not to lie by reading what was said. forget it. it was a huge mistake. >> you'll make us say why it was bad millions of times by doing answers like that. >> and americans don't want an answer. they just wanted to say she messed up. >> and america is -- we believe in second chances and what hillary clinton needs to do is stop talking about this and reintroduce herself. that's the only way she can drive these negatives down. i think it sets her up to win this fall. she has got to get this behind her. still ahead on "morning
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kind of important people. after that wave of brutal poll numbers including signs of a ruptured party trump backed down because i guess poll numbers moved him and hailed the benefits of unity. >> we need the unity. we have to win this election. we have to win it. we have to win it. otherwise our big movement was not as big as we thought. so in our shared mission to make america great again i support and endorse our speaker of the house, paul ryan. mostly we'll agree and do a lot of wonderful things.
and while i'm at it i hold in the highest esteem. i hold senator john mccain. it is in uniform and in public office. i fully support and endorse his reelection. i also fully support senator of new hampshire. >> he didn't mention him the next night. >> how do you describe what happened? he can say i endorse and support -- [ laughter ] >> i fully support. >> it's like that kelly, she is a rising star. you don't need to read that. >> and paul ryan. >> he is acting. that is donald acting at his best. i am being forced to say these
words that i don't really mean. and oh, look, senator john mccain. this guy is making a joke of you. this guy is making a joke of you. so at some point you have to go 90 miles per hour either against. you can be the be in the middle or you'll get killed. you'll die politically. >> nobody stops you if you're going -- >> you either get in the camp or you say i'm going to spend every waking second of my life taking it to this guy and destroying him and crushing him and making sure that republicans get reelected in the senate. you don't go half way. they have gone half way. they are in the middle of the road and they are going to get run over.
>> and they are being mocked. >> and all three have been critical of him. and, you know, you look at when does donald trump as -- where is he at his weakest? when someone attacked him and he lashes back. that's what happened with the khans and the three prominent republicans. he sent a signal to mika. >> don't you think if you endorse donald trump and you truly believe you should be out campaigning with him and working with him. you're saying this guy is great for america. if you don't think that anything you have seen over the past two to three weeks when, you know, the general really got into full swing and you really started e seeing a message that was for
all americans, if you don't believe he is good for america shouldn't you be on the other side of that? >> let's not even do right and wrong. let's talk about what's best cynically and politically. >> that's what i meant. >> what's best for their careers is to choose a side and stick with it. you go all in donald trump, go 90 miles per hour and explain why. if you're not you explain to people why. i found this time and time again. that's reason why i always said if nobody stops when you're going 90 miles per hour. if you make a decision -- i mean one decision i made was to overthrow the popular speaker of the house, the republican speaker of the house. good luck trying that at home, kids. >> right. >> you know how you do it? you do it like --
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republican party that puts him in the paul ryan wing of the party. >> and crystal has been trying for some time. like donald trump used promises of law and order to justify infringing on civil rights as they consolidate force. you lookedt his over the past half hour. >> yeah, the ted talk and wikipedia show he is a pretty good communicator. he is a better speaker. i have no offense to david french. >> so from what you're hearing, is this -- i'm hearing an announcement will be made this morning. your sources are not telling you that. >> they say there will be an announcement today but as someone reporting early on i have not confirmed he is ready
to run. one of my sources say he may not be fully committed. >> joining us now national political reporter. and msnbc elize jordan. you have been focusing on the awkward short circuiting on hillary clinton and her e-mails. we are looking at the potential of someone else jumping in. what have you found? >> i found that people i think want to move past this you hear tim kaine saying i have said repeatedly i made this mistake and i'm trying to move on. they are trying to really keep donald trump on his toes. it will be critical. that's going to be a critical state. on thursday she will pivot and i think it will be the response to
monday's speech by donald trump today in detroit. >> i wonder why she can't move past it. i have my own reasons. there hasn't been a comforting answer. >> she is responding more like a lawyer than a politician. >> i think one of the problems going on is that it's a very complicated issue. you have to talk about 3,000 e-mails versus three e-mails. it go to her trust issues. people have already been wondering. i think it's one of the reasons she isn't moving past it. >> when you get to marked classified versus not marked classified and intention -- it is like bores and says nobody is telling the truth here.
isn't the issue starting up the server in the first place? just the whole set up kind of being -- am i wrong? >> i think some of it is the fact that there's a private server. people have gmail, it goes to whether or not you could relate to average americans. there are all things that make up this part that can't go away. part of this is i was at the convention and the national associati association. it has been more than 200 days since she held a press conference. you would want to be looking, if you can't ask hillary clinton a question you to ask about the things as a broader reporter. it goes to if she is not having press conferences people need to ask about the e-mail issue. >> and we showed a full screen
about honest and trustworthy numbers. is she honest and trustworthy? 38% say yes and 28% say no. you look at the answer this past weekend, i'm just wondering, this is supposed to be such a professional campaign. why can't they write out a response? >> she has convince pd herself, oh, i didn't do anything wrong. in her public explanations it never comes across as very sincere. if you do have such a complicated answer usual will i they already lost the messaging battle. >> she should say she is sorry. >> she has. >> i shouldn't have done that. >> and i think when she starts to get into, this was really not as bad as it seems. it wasn't labeled classified.
>> and just quick. so why is there, mark, why is there the inability for her to memorize the statement, say the statement -- >> believe it. >> i think she was getting past it. she doesn't want to admit she was cavalier about the handling of classified information. to go beyond just a statement which reporters pressured her to do, she never said why she reglets it. she leaves the impression not because she did two that were irresponsib irresponsible. >> you don't have to answer. i'm sorry. i made a mistake. >> that has been her answer whachlt do they say? >> were you misleading about about blah, blah, blah.
>> you know what? i should have gone ahead and used the state department system. i didn't do it. >> do you accept director comey's position that you mishandled classified information? is. >> i have great represent for director comey. i want to assure you i have taken everything he has written to heart. it is a really great learning experience for me. >> so you agree that you mishandled information? >> everything he has written i have taken it to heart and i will make sure it is a learning experience for me. >> go ahead. >> you said publicly that your staff read every e-mail and turned over everything that was work related.
is that true? >> i'll tell you what i will do. i will learn from all of the lessons i did and lessons i made as secretary of state, all of the mistakes i made as first lady and as senator and i will use it to be a more effective president. it is a learning experience. i have such respect for director comey and every word that he wrote it weighs on my note. did. >> did you turn over every work related e-mail? yes or no? did you turn over -- >> we did the best we could. >> yes or no. >> it is a learning experience. the next time something like this happens any where in my administration i will make sure they put into safeguards
director comey has put in. it will be the most ethically -- >> we don't think those are acceptable answers. >> i respect the fbi director. i'm sorry you don't. >> do you feel better? >> i think as a reporter you still keep asking follow-up questions. it is not whether or not it makes me feel better. it will really be the voters. i think voters said they still don't feel completely like she is telling the truth in some ways. i was looking at the daily download yesterday. her issues we mails rank almost as high as donald trump's issues with the khans.
she needs to make it a point. >> talk about that and move on. >> and there the people you have worked with, the press will ask a question two or three times. they have no choice. >> and i think the khan issue shows the worth -- >> yes. >> heart versus e ticks. she always see how they navigate is ultimately the test of the election. stay with us. back with more "morning joe" theater after this. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close.
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looking at it from putin's perspective, very talented, manipulated people much smarter than donald trump. he plagued this perfectly. he saw donald trump wanted to be complimented. he complimented him. it lead to defending putin's around if world. trump department even understand that putin is playing him.
from mr. trump's perspective he heard putin compliment him. he never thought he might be being played. >> former cia acting director is doubling down on the connection he made. in a new york times he said he would be a dangerous commander in chief. he said he recruited trump as an unwitting ashent. he said morelle the lightweight former acting director c.i.a. . and so onto the news that seems to be developing this morning. you're not sure mark halperin
whether it is david french or david french light. >> or david french plus. >> an announcement will be made this morning -- >> or this afternoon. >> by whom? >> the consul at that particular times, donors, political advi r advisers to give voters a chance to express themselves. >> why can't we get someone well known. >> someone that had a wikipedia page before today. >> yeah. >> and this guy has a really impress i have resume. he is -- >> i'm sure he is amazing. >> he is very young.
>> yeah. 40 years old. former c.i.a. agent. goldman sachs, a wharton gara gradua graduate. >> so a real, he jit optilegit . this guy sure has more credentials than donald trump right now. >> he sounds like someone that could put forward a world view and economic world view that was logical. they probably want someone to keep pushing ideas forward that are actually republican. >> when i ask republicans would you like trump to win or lose they almost all say lose.
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