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follow this breaking news at this hour in new york city. a man is climbing trump tower in manhattan using suction cups to move up the building. they're lowering scaffolding here in an effort to make contact with him. we'll continue to follow it. we'll be back tomorrow with more. good night. with all due respect to donald trump's mouth, next time, he might want to put the safety on. on the show tonight we'll break down ads, polls, and we'll hope that donnie doesn't have a break down over the election. let's get started. we've got a brand new bloomberg politics national survey out today that chose hillary clinton beating donald trump 50-44 in a two-way race. the margin dropped slight when i
the two leading third party candidates are added to the mix. we'll talk more about those poll findings in a minute. but first, trump and his campaign are still dealing with the fallout from the republican nominee's remark about second amendment people yet. news reports now that the secret service has had conversations today with the trump campaign about that comment. out of concern that the remark could incite violence against clinton. trump and his campaign are still saying he was talking about voter mobilization while some republicans, including former campaign manager corey lewandowski and the speaker of the house are going with a different talking point. that the whole thing was a joke gone bad. that's what a lot of people in the press are thinking. here's what trump had to say about this matter at his rally this afternoon in virginia. >> they can take a little story that isn't a story and make it into a big deal. it happens so much.
it happens so much. and speaking of that, remember this. we have so many things that we have to protect in this country. we have to protect our second amendment, which is under siege. it's under siege. >> it happens so much. it's under siege. trump was still speaking at that rally, hillary clinton weighed in during her own campaign event this afternoon in des moines, iowa. >> words matter, my friends. and if you are running to be president or you are president of the united states, words can have tremendous consequences. yesterday we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that cross the line. his casual cruelty to a gold star family.
his casual suggestion that more countries should have nuclear weapons. and now his casual inciting of violence. every single one of these incidents shows us that donald trump simply does not have the temperament to be president and commander in chief of the united states. >> two of the reasons this is dominating the news cycle is because explicitly dismissing it as an outright high and because those skeptical voices coming from conservative twitter and the usually friendly fox news channel. both the clinton and trump campaigns are trying to raise money off this. has it done any permanent damage to donald trump? >> i think not as big as the clinton campaign thought yesterday. the trump campaign has stuck to its guns, pardon the pun and suggested he was not making a
joke about it. it if the secret service investigation looks into it, it will be more. this is another thing, come the fall, if there are republicans both the republicans and those who want to abandon trump. i don't think it is causing major damage yet pending the secret service investigation but i think it is causing some. >> right now, the brand position, the negative brand position for trump is unstable. this is one where we have a term called brand support points. >> the negative side. so i'm saying, it is basically now, it is in the list with the issue, the russians hacking into hillary clinton's e-mails. with mccain not being a war hero. now it is support point number 7. so it doesn't change the math.
it gives you one more tool to may with. >> the press shouldn't be biased. the reality, saying what it is. not what it ought to be. the press maze favorites at times. and trump needs to be the press's favorite. they're getting better coverage. they normally don't. i think one reason this is bad for trump. he has another big fight with the press. the press thinks he is a hire. he is mad at the press for the way they're covering it. the more this is tension between trump and the press. >> i think the press doesn't need him anymore. i think basically, this was the story of a generation and we're 90 days away from an election. and i think the press and i think the press by nature usually does lean more democratic. just who they are as human beings. and i think part of the voice, okay, we've made the game. we've carried you to this point but now a little of that bias may be coming out. >> trump just tweeted there was
no meeting, despite news reports, no meetinger what conversation ever happened between secret service and the trump campaign regarding what happened yesterday. but the secret service tweeted they are concerned about it. let's talk now about our new bloomberg politics poll. hillary clinton has maintained some of her post convention bump. she beat trump by 6 points. 50-44. clinton is leading with independents, women, including white women, young and unmarried voters. trump is still up among the men, white men with no college degree, people 65 years and older, evangelicals, and voters with college degrees. we should say in a four-way race. adding in the green party and the libertarian party. as we get further away from the democratic convention. supporters of trump and clinton have vastly different motivations for backing their
favorite choice. 56% of clinton supporters say they're month pro clinton than anti-trump. they differ overwhelmingly. they are more anti-clinton than for the republican candidate. so on these top line numbers, what is your biggest takeaway? >> the biggest takeaway from the poll is that things of not changed much since the post convention bump. if you aggregate all the polls, the margin is about 7.3. the bloomberg is a little on the lower side. when i do the cross, you said a while ago. if trump doesn't win business, he doesn't win. 61% of people in that poll think that he is doing worse, they're perception of him as a businessman has gone south since the campaign. if i bow to the church of mark halperson which do i, that is a very telling number. >> he has to sell his business credentials. there have been stories by the
clinton campaign and the press has done on its own hook at trump's business record and it is clear, the republican convention didn't rebuild that. although there were efforts at the straengs on build that up. all right. bloomberg politics also asked people for their views on president obama and the country. half the country said they approve the job he's doing and yet 68% said the country is headed in the wrong direction. and almost half those likely voters said democrats were to blame compared to 22% who said it was the republicans' fault. 30% said they were not sure who to blame. should democrats be worried about that? it flies in the face of the party in general. >> it is a very strange mix. even if the country blames the democrats. even if overwhelmingly as has been the case, people think we're on the wrong track. they still think president obama is doing a good job. he is getting close to his highest numbers since the beginning of his presidency.
i can't really explain it. >> i think it is a little, at the end, the economy is not in a terrible shape. so that being said, and he seems very statesman. he gave a great speech. his numbers are good before that. the one number back to the bloomberg poll, the temperament for president. hillary clinton. 56%. for donald trump, 31%. how does a guy get elected if two out of three people think he has the make-up for that office? >> the president, even at his worst moment, his approval rating never got below 40%. he's gone from the low 40s at his low point to the mid 50s. and he has recovered some of the people who voted for him who maybe lost, i believe, and he's some successes in foreign policy and at home. but it is a real problem for the trump campaign. they can cite wrong track all they want. when a guy who has half the country, more than half the country afroofg job he's doing, will be out there hitting the pavement for hillary clinton, that's a problem. >> same for ronald reagan. >> finally after donald trump
complained that some of the general election debates are scheduled on nights with nfl games, we asked likely voters which they would watch? if the dates don't change? football against debates? 69% said they would watch the debate. only 26 said they would choose the game. i'll be professionally obligated to watch the debates. which would you watch? football or the debates? >> it depends if the jets are playing. i know they have all this technology. >> which would you watch live? >> to all my fans in queens, they'll be upset with me. i would watch the debate. >> picture and picture and watch the game. >> i think -- >> get the audio. >> those debates will be the biggest numbers since the moon landing. >> i've been saying they'll be the most highly watched shows of all time. i'm getting less sure about that. they'll be big but i thought he this would be the biggest tv events of all time.
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trump said this and this. august 2. dnc resignations. still not the lead. trump did this, this and this. august 3. clinton repiece claim about fbi. also that day he ran this story. >> they have a perfect -- >> then he admits he's wrong. a rough week for trump. then it said clinton didn't create as many jobs.
news that benghazi victims are suing clinton. then trump says, well, you know. >> that brings us to today and some new news stories about e-mails from hillary clinton's time as secretary of state. these were retained by the judicial watch as part of litigation. the exchanges between aides to bill clinton and state department officials in which the former president's advisers seem to be seeking special access and special treatment for in at least one case, a major foundation donor. voters continue to say they have questions about hillary clinton's ethics. there is a new report out tonight from cnn suggesting that the fbi at one point wanted the justice department to look into the clinton foundation and the justice department declined. i'm sure that will be getting more attention in the days ahead. so looking at these e-mails, do they suggest that clinton inc. operated in a way that voters could be and somebody
suspicious? >> i want to go back like the clinton brand. the so once again one more support point. the difference between the two, all those support points on the side of clinton, all the support points here. it is easy and sexy to say clinton made a joke about assassinating -- >> trump. >> made a joke -- trump made a joke that assassinating hillary clinton. this is all mushy. it is not sound bity enough. it is not sexy enough. it is all on brand for her under the untruthful category. >> there is business as usual. every administration i've ever covered, there are allies on the outside who are in the profit business, work to get special treatment. that's not new. what is different here is that when hillary clinton accepted the job as secretary of state, it was clear from the obama white house' point of view, there needed to be some walls put up so that the foundation her husband was running didn't create problems. in this case, a variety of
people raising money for the foundation. getting rich on their own with allies and friends and colleagues in the administration. and these e-mails show a pattern of clinton inc. doing exactly what the critics suggest. moving stuff along so that everybody wins except in some cases, critics would argue, the american people. >> more of the same. as you were telling me story i was thinking about my dry cleaning. no. it is a very -- >> they're going to need to make this break through. >> to make the break through is more than just a hum. the average person says hillary clinton thinks she plays above the wall. she's untruthful. one more support point but not a cheer, interesting, sexy -- >> i agree. they're going to need to find, i believe, the break-through. is somebody getting a favor from the state department they should not have gotten that helped enrich it? this doesn't do that. >> something when i'm eating my lucky charms in the morning.
>> more needs to be done on this story. >> here's a controversy that should be a bigger deal. yesterday there was a not so welcome person over clinton's shoulder as she spoke at a rally in florida. it urges the out it was the father of the gunman who killed 49 people this june. the father said he was invited to the event by a mass e-mail and he supports the democratic candidate. the clinton campaign has said it was an open event. that they didn't know he was there and she disavows his support. mark, is the trump campaign going to have something to may with here? >> i think there should be more work done by journalists in the ties to the state department. this one, i don't understand why republicans are pushing. the campaign has disavowed the guy. in no uncertain terms. they don't want his support. bad optics that he showed up. they disavowed his support. i don't see where the story is. >> the only thing for about 3,000 people is you go through a metal detector.
they're not doing back ground checks on people. my initial instinct, i'll bet trump's people sent him there. how is this guy there? a list of sign that's were talking points. so i didn't to go some great major conspiracy thing myself instinct was pretty clever. >> if the campaign invited him, it would have been a mistake. they wouldn't have invited him on purpose. if they invited him or if the trump campaign sent him, i have no reason to believe seethe true, that deserves more scrutiny. but in the absence of that, republicans are hurting themselves. they have a candidate who gives them few windows to break through. they had a window until trump said the thing he said yesterday. they have a window now as that dies down. push the clinton foundation and try to explain to people or push this nonstory? it seems pretty obvious to me. they can't waste their time on things that aren't going anywhere. i can't see how this goes anywhere once they repudiated the guy. >> a tough story to tell.
it's funky. no question about it. some nasty quid pro quo there. by the way, hillary clinton is not a very believable, trust worthy person. there needs to be something clear. >> and particularly, this one involves aides. there is no evidence she knew about any of this stuff. and no evidence that the people lost out. the taxpayers hossa out or somebody got a job or a contract improperly. but it does show the way her empire operated. i agree. the bar is higher. coming up, mr on what's up with donald trump from a report here covers him pretty much around the clock. on my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75% and even 90% clearance in just 4 months.
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broadcasts. it is part of a $3 million ad buy. >> she is one of the wealthiest women in politics. combined income, $30 million. tours the world on private jets. protected by armed guards for 30 years. but she doesn't believe in your right to keep a gun at home for self-defense. >> i fully appreciate how hard life is for so many americans today. >> and out of touch hypocrite. she would leave you defenseless. >> all right. so the nra is stepping up big with that ad. that seems to go to the theme we talked about before of clinton being out of touch. i think it is a pretty good spot. >> really seemed like donald trump more would be in that. they go under less scrutiny than an ad selling cheerios. you would have to say this is a
dramatization. that was not hillary clinton. the most important thing we buy, there is less regulation than there is for talcum powder or anything else. >> i remember 1992 when bill clinton was in third place behind ross perot and george herbert walker bush. people thought he was born rich. and they spent a hot of time telling people about their upbringing. this campaign has done the same thing. telling the story, a very sad story of her mother's life and her life. yet a lot of people will buy into the kind of imagery of the ad. the fact is the clintons since they got to the white house and beyond have lived a pretty high 90ing air. >> i challenge that a multibillionaire pointing at a campaign saying look how rich she is. pictures of him sitting on trump air force one eating his kentucky fried chicken. from another candidate i get it.
from him, i don't. >> george bush did it against due kakis in 1988 when he convinced people he was more in touch with people. i believe that often these outside groups do not make good ads. they often, the campaigns whether they're on the air themselves, look at these and say, why can't they make better ads? my guess is, i haven't asked the trump campaign about that spot. i just saw it for the first time. my guess is that's pretty happy with it. it is a well produced spot. >> i think the clinton ads they've had so far. i think they have done both strategically very sound, very artful ads. >> the early clinton ads when she was running against sanders, did not get great reviews. one did, hugging a young kid, but most have not. and i think you're going to see people say what you said. their general election spots so
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with all this news about donald trump today, we decided to call on someone who angst lot about it. a veteran and yet always youthful pollster and senior adviser to trump's campaign. >> thank you. >> you've been talking about what he said yesterday. which you need to talk about. do you think people are willfully misinterpreting what he said? you think that people are doing it on purpose? or why do so many people interpret it as his saying, joking that my supporters could rise up? the second amendment supporters could rise up? why are so many getting it wrong? >> people tend to look at the news through their own political views already. if you're for hillary clinton, you see it one way. if you're for donald trump, you see it another way.
go through social media feed and you see that immediately. i don't think this skomt an aberration from what's been going on in this mit cycle for over a year. that that, people are not nation entire clip. he was already talking about the supreme court and the second amendment. then he said, maybe the second amendment people can do something about that. i interpreted it the way the people at the rally interpreted it. i saw a bunch of them interviewed on cnn today in a couple print pieces. they said i thought he men he's mobilizing the 90 million gun owners today. just today nra started their media. they are starting to mobilize. >> we can go back and forth for an hour on that. the first part of the statement, he said hillary clinton wants to abolish the second amendment. she never said she hasn't. she's been trying on grab guns. it's none of her business as a senator. >> you're saying, hillary clinton has come out and.
i don't think anybody in america has the right to bear arms? >> no. she's been asked about her position on the second amendment and she's said, oh, like, sounds like texting like a teenager every time she opens her mouth. she has said she is running for president, she has said she's against the heller decision. the united states supreme court dpigs afirld an individual's try it bear arms. that came from a majority of the supreme court including many different president's appointees. she has said she disagrees and wishes it would go another way. she would have the opportunity as a president to execute executive orders. it is really something. it was her predecessor, senator obama running for president who said people clinging to their gods and their guns and their religion. >> you say the difference between wanting to pass additional restrictions as opposed to saying you want to
get rid of the second amendment. >> what does that mean? >> it means that other people hunt? in the last 24 hours, they can a content analysis. as of this morning, i'm sure it is worse. there was five times more coverage on what donald trump said about mobilizing gun owners across this country versus covering the fact that moammar mateen's father sat right behind this. where would you feel more safe? where would you feel more safe in at a rally where the speaker who is running for president says you have a right to protect yourself under your second amendment constitutional rights? or would you feel more safe at a rally where the man who perpetrated the worst mass murder since 9/11 in america's history was standing right
behind the candidate? >> it was the father, rather than the perpetrator. >> the father. excuse me. >> i want to go back to what you said. if you support hillary clinton, you have, one would have a different interpretation. look what some people on fox said about what trump said yesterday. >> even donald trump's most rabid supporters may be shaking their heads in bewilderment tonight. >> what the hell is he talking about? is he talking about what i i think he's talking about? >> that he wants someone to kill her. >> to make sure that she's not elected. >> you can't to it with a straight face. >> as a matter of caring, i don't think a man of that age at this point in the campaign, it is not the press. it is not the democrats. this is a self-inflicted wound. >> imagine if she said, or
somebody said that about trump. maybe someone would assassinate him. we would all be going crazy. >> so many supporters who are not supporters of donald trump. but that is on fox news. this is not something -- >> so? >> again, i'll say -- >> you're accusing him of wanting to assassinate hillary clinton. >> the joke about it. >> that would never be funny. >> that's what corey the that he was doing. >> if we found itering with won't be able to prove this out. ten focus groups with apolitical voters. er i think 90% would take that it way. >> that's not true. i do it for a living. >> i want to ask you a personal question. i'll ask you as a voter, as a guy. i think it is an american story. when he started out, i was like, whoa! this could be really, really great. he called me after i predict the
iowa caucus. i said to him. what can i do for you? this is pretty cool. i like a lot of people were like, maybe this is reagan reagan. maybe this is a guy who will be a statesman. who will surround himself with the right people. yes, he is a political novice. then a string of things and we don't need to repeat them. the mexican judge, the muslims. myself as a businessman, an educated person said what the polls are saying. i just don't think he has the temperament. i used to get unsatisfactories in self-control. that was in elementary school. >> did you very well for yourself. >> so i know where this is going. >> this is a man -- i just look at. i've always liked. i can't, i'm talking as a guy now. i can't vote for this guy. he scares the hell out of me. what i see. forget pundits. that's why -- >> and & yet hillary clinton -- >> no, no.
the the media only wants to cover one candidate. >> convince me i'm wrong. >> you're going to go to the ballot box. and it will stay following. donald j. donald trump, hillary rodham clinton. hillary clinton, gary johnson, jill stein, the someone else. you're going to have to choose. nobody is saying to you, blue tie, yes or no. this whole thing is covered as donald trump, yes or no. it is not a reference on donald trump. it is on hillary clinton. they find her to be someone who lies for a living. >> it's why people want to go someplace. >> why doesn't anyone care that her e-mails show that the start was there for sale? go read this. this is relevant to americans. >> you're right. to my point, he makes it impossible. >> it is why you want to cover it. by the way, i don't blame the coverage at all and here's why. he is. more fun to cover.
she is a bore and she lies for a living and her trustworthy and honesty numbers have gotten worse. she has not worn well at all of i can argue, why isn't this woman got 65% of the female vote if he really takes wings off butterflies? why isn't she at 52, 55% in swing states that president obama carried twice? she is not. she is fundamentally flawed. the the idea that we're not covering what is shaping up to be a pretty bad week for hillary clinton if you looked at it objectively between omar mateen's father saying hey, i'm proud of her democratic party. i think she would be great for national security. >> you're right. >> we did talk about mateen and the moise. i want to clear up one more thing on the question of his remark yesterday. it has been reported that the secret service has reached out to the campaign. >> i can't comment on it. >> do you know anything? >> i can't comment on that. whatever do you think of the service looking into it? >> that seems to be very
typical. i've been -- the secret service, an incredible group that is very discreet and i don't think we should look at them through a political lens whatsoever. i've traveled with them. i know what they're about. >> we should not read into the degree to which they're taking it seriously? >> i wouldn't read anything into it. it is the secret service. i will say this. the idea that people have been parading on cable and network tv suggesting that donald trump was calling for any kind of nefarious action against, criminal action against hillary clinton or joking about it, i think is very disturbing to me. it just goes on and on. >> i think it is accurate. >> that he is calling for her -- her demise? >> let me ask you a question, as a woman, not in a bar. you're welcome to come over any time. listen. what in the world is elizabeth warren thinking? why do certain people get away with saying snings this is a united states senator. after mike pence was nominated that they deserve each other.
they're both small insecure men. calling into question their manhood saying yesterday, donald trump is a, quote, pathetic coward. she said donald trump is a pathetic coward who is afraid he is losing to a girl. >> donald trump called women fat pigs. >> how are you comparing -- >> everybody thinks it is fine. that's okay. when he tries on fight back against people like elizabeth warren. oh! >> we're not complaining that he called people's names. >> they do every day. they do it every day. the clinton people are spending gazillions of dollars rehashing this. >> i think you're making a fair point about elizabeth warren. i want to talk about the e-mail thing. explain to people who aren't following the latest. you make the accusations that it is corrupt. what did she do wrong in conjunction with people outside asking for favors? >> so there are a couple things. first of all, she has said she
wanted her private server so she could communicate with her daughter chelsea and exchange recipes and yoga moves. it turns out there is also classified information there and people asking for favors while she's secretary of state that then were procured and secured. >> but they weren't asking her directly in this latest batch of e-mails. >> so she's not responsible for what the people below her do? cheryl mills? >> she's responsible for her staff doing what every administration i've ever covered has done. >> helped to give mineral rights to people in countries -- >> outside favors? >> okay. then according to clinton cash, the movie and the book, her husband's speaking fees went like this in the time she was secretary of state. maybe a coincidence. but he had again president eight years before. he was a pretty noteworthy guy that people wanted to hear. why did that happen? why after he's visited the country, do some of their friends get these favors? i think these are legitimate
questions that affect people. but we're not going to get coverage on it. >> we're a little bit over. we explained why they affect people. >> it affects people because, look, people already believe that mrs. clinton cannot be trusted. that is clear in everybody's polling including the bloomberg's polls. the way one comported herself as secretary of state, a pretty unremarkable record, is the best view how she would operate as president. and this administration has promised to be the most trans parent ever. and she was part of this administration. people want accountability, transparency and people should care. everything they hate about the very corrupt system that's not transparent and not accountable where they think the insiders benefit and this is a special set of rules for them applies most to hillary clinton. >> i almost never want to correct you on polls. i said her honest and trustworthy number have gotten worse compared to donald trump.
>> not compared to trump. >> she is now roughly nieve zpox other polls. >> the question in this election for me will come down to, distrust of her versus distaste for himself? that's really the question. >> i would say untruthful versus unstab unstable. >> that's your opinion. your opinion. but people throughout are really struggling. we're blessed around this table. people out there are struggling. and they want to hear solutions. they want to hear economic plans like the one mr. trump introduced on mop. this election will come down. he knows what he has to do to win. this will come down to economic security. job creation. who can cure national security, ethics. that's very important point to people and there are a lot of people tired of political correctness. >> it should come down to that. >> come back more often. if he had 20 people like you, he would be 20 points ahead. >> when we come back, a look at
paid media ask the so-called liberal media after this. we are following some breaking news out of midtown, manhattan. a couple hours ago a young man decided to scale trump tower in midtown using a series of suction cups. police took out the windows of this building. they tried to talk him into giving himself up and then you can see they yanked him right in the window. our adam reese is there. tell us what you saw unfold. >> after about a three-hour climb, esu officers here at trump tower were finally able to bring him in. on the 21st floor. almost a third of the way up trump tower. on. 16 floor they thought they had the man. they went through air conditioning ducts but he was not being cooperative. he was using suction cups. he continued to move up the south side of the building as hundreds of people stood,
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the professor of politics. so ken, very common, as we see every cycle for candidates who think they're on the top of the ticket to a candidate. in arizona. you think it is a republican state. does this seem like good play to link mccain up? the effort there based on? >> you know, i like to say that advertising is also a tell. and everyone has been saying that arizona is going to become a purple state or perhaps even a blue state. and when we're starting to see national numbers in the double digits, that means that arizona will be competitive in the presidential race. that will make the senate race more competitive. i think that's what that ad is saying. i think the message in general is a great message for kilpatrick, the challenger, to mccain. but i think it is also our first
initial signs that some states that we might not expect to be in play in the presidential race might be coming in to play. if they're in may in the presidential race, they'll make those down ballot races in play. she spent $58 million. i am just stunned that there is no spending. sometimes you can't may catch up. when it gets past labor day. i know what it is waiting for. >> i'm rarely speechless. you said you're stunned? i'm completely speechless. trump only spent $20 million in the primary. trump has not spent a cent on television, on paid advertising since mid 80. this is just completely unprecedented. i mean, mark said the guns of
august. it has only been the gun of august coming from one side. we are in uncharted waters when one side has been up and one side has been up at fairly heavy levels. and not just that it hand been up heavily. it hasn't been up at all. >> at this point, does it make sense to start in august? the olympics? going up in september? >> that is a good question. and i think i'm of two minds. not to be a flip-flopper. i would typically agree with what you're saying. that now with the olympics going on in august, sort of the dog days of summer and not the time to go up with a message or a new message. that said, given the fact that he is not been up at all and that this race is starting to feel baked to me. and we've all gone through races. and there is that time when you
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interview with a nonfox network, that was on this network. the only five interviews that trump has done this month have all been on fox news. this pattern goes back for months where trump has done more fox than anything else. it is typical for republicans to favor fox. but at this point in the election, is it smart for him to gear his appearances to fox? >> of course not. the media, i believe, and i do believe the media is usually biased because they're educated. i think the media has brought him along and been co-conspirators, we need him, we need him. at this point they're going, we can bash him. we don't have to play to him. everybody was beholden to him. they have said, maybe the story is taking him down. we've carried him long i think that's what's happening.
>> i think he had easier questions. he is not creating a moments. there are nights when he does an interview with hannity. where no one gets no pick-up whatsoever. because they didn't make the news. trump needs the multiplier effect. he needs to go on morning joe, on the "today" show, needs to make news, stand up to a tough interviewer and then have that message radiate out. >> all those interviewers are hanging tight. now they realize they get ratings without him by going at him. so they don't have to be quite co-conspirators. >> romney made the same mistake. ♪ ♪
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there's more on our website. we'll be back tomorrow. thanks for watching. same bad time, same bat channel. coming up, "hardball" with chris matthews. >> second amendment people. let's play "hardball." >> we've been watching this scene in new york at the trump tower where a climber climbed the glass side of the building that serves as the