tv All In With Chris Hayes MSNBC August 11, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
>> do have you anything to pitch at all tonight? okay. theseing, thank you, that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all if" with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on "all in" -- >> i'd call president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. >> way behind and lashing out. >> no, it's no mistake. everyone is liking it. >> fatalistic donald trump considers the end. >> at the end it's either going to work or i'm going to you know, i'm going to have a very, very nice long vacation. >> tonight, new reporting that the rnc has asked the candidate to change, warping him, he's headed for failure. >> you can send out the word to ohio, pennsylvania, some of those really important swing states. >> then, new polling on the single most effective clinton attack ad. >> oh, i don't know what i said. i don't remember.
>> why those remarks mocking a reporter just keep resonating. plus, hillary clinton lays out a strikingly progressive economic agenda. can she get it done? and back in miami -- >> we own doral, which is one of the, one of the great places in the world. >> donald trump's country club and the small businesses who say trump is refusing to pay. >> i think it's the greatest resort or just about. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. donald trump has never been known to apologize for any of the offenses and inflammatory things he said over the course of his presidential campaign. but with his assertion, first made last night, that the president of the occupation founded the world's most revirgin islands terrorist group, trump appears to have unleashed a level of defiance. not only did he refuse to back off of this claim, trump seems puzzled that anyone would reject
it. >> do you think it's appropriate to call the sitting president of the occupation a foirnd of a terrorist organization that wants to kill americans? >> he was the founder of isis, absolutely t. way he removed our troops, they shouldn't have gotten out the way they got out. it was a disaster what he did. >> how do you think -- >> is there nothing wrong with saying that? are people complaining i said he was the founder of isis? >> this morning trump called for a radio show hosted by commentator steve hewitt who tried mightily to offer traump more palatable nuance way to frame the critique of president obama. >> i know what you meant you meant that he created the volume, he lost the peace. >> no, i i meant, he's the founder of isis, i do. i give him the most valuable player ward. >> he's not sympathetic to them. he hates them. he's trying to kill them. >> the way he got out of iraq,
that was the founder of isis. >> but by using the term "founder," they're hitting with you on this again, mistake? >> no, it's no mistake. everyone is liking it. i think they're liking it. i gave him the most valuable player award. and i gave it to him and the coy found tore hillary. >> i know what you are arguing. >> let me ask you, do you fought like that? >> i don't. >> this week was supposed to provide a much new general election reset starting with an economic speech on monday. he can't seem to get out of primary mode, telling "time" marx i got 14 million votes and won most of the states. i'm liking the way i ran the primaries better. envelopes, it seems to be donning on trump or maybe the first time, something isn't working, he is absolutely losing this race as of now. today trump pleaded for help in certain key states. >> i have a tremendous problem in utah.
utah is a different place. is anybody here from you that you? i didn't think so. we're having a problem. we need help in ohio. we're very close in ohio. ohio is very close. we need help. if you could send out the word to ohio, pennsylvania, some of those important swing states. >> still given a choice between expanding his appeal, donald trump clearly prefers the latter. remarkably, he is starting to seem resigned to likely result. >> all i do is tell the truth. if at the end of the 90 day, i fall in short because i'm somewhat politically correct even though i'm supposed to be the smart one and have a lot of good ideas. it's okay, i go back to a very good way of life. i will keep doing what i am doing, at the end it's either going to work or i'm going to, you know, i'm going to have a very, verifies long vacation. >> trump electoral meltdown
could have an impact beyond his campaign. according to latest polls, he is two points ahead of hillary clinton. he trails clinton by 4 points in georgia, which hasn't picked a democrat for president since 1992. with numbers like that trump could drag down the republican candidates the whole way down the ballot t. question for gop leaders is whether it's time to support something like the strategy in 1996 when it shunned the presidential nominee bob deal in order to save congress. reince priebus gave trump last week informing him, his campaign seems to be headed for failure. now, over 70 republicans calling on priebus to cut trump off, urging the rnc to channel its found u funds. joining me now, trump candidate surrogate adrian delgado. could we start with just word, you are a very gifted communicator. you know how words, you are a
lawyer, dramatic obowl didn't found isis, we can agree with that, some hyper bollic sense. the statement that barack obama found isis is an untrue statement? >> not figuratively. >> right, hewitt said i get where you are getting at. you are saying there was a vacuum. he says, no, barack obama founded isis. >> he said no because it's more than that. it's more than just obama created the vacuum. it's the way obama withdrew the troops. obama admits there was talk of leaving more troops there as advisers and managerial notes. that was not done. that's what trump is speaking about. >> here is trump in 2007 on precisely this issue. do we get out of iraq, stay in iraq? >> how do we get out of this situation? >> how do they get out? they get out. that's how they get out. declare victory and leave. because i'll tell you, this country is just going to get
further bogged down. they're in a civil war over there, washington. there is nothing that we will be able to do with a civil war. >> so, but he had that view. >> right. i don't see hows that disagreeing be i the method ie not leaving -- >> that's very clear. he said they're in a civil war. there is nothing, nothing we can do in a civil war. >> that is an articulate position ultimately pursued in the beginning, a position you probably agreed w. i think a lot of people who have your mill bent on foreign policy agreed with, which is we don't need american soldiers sitting in the middle of a civil war over there, they should come home, right? >> we need to get out in a managerial advisory role. his position was bought the inconsistent and obama, they also do that obama got out but left nothing there. >> but you can't have it both ways. the point is, it's either proper to get out, a, b the status of the agreement negotiated on
president bush determined the way troops could or could not stay. >> that agreement was negotiated years earlier, things changed. >> why does donald trump say we should have left troops there at the time in a managerial role. he didn't say that? >> are you talking about a quote from 2007 and the troops were taken out four years later, yes, so things change. >> he is saying we should get out in twoich. >> yes, getting out. >> that doesn't mean not leaving some sort of managerial advisory decision there. >> then what's the policy of the trump campaign? i want to understand this. is that the americans should have changed the terms of the status force agreement or foregone indem mification for american troops, so as to leave some group of person troops there that would have stopped the rise of isis? do i understand that is the position? >> i can't speak for the campaign, my personal understanding. i do tend to agree with stump on foreign policy, that means
violating the status forces agreement. we should have. obama himself was considering, we should have left that, 10,000 was the number. >> that wasn't done. >> the next time i talk to donald trump, i'm going to ask him about this number. >> i'm sure he'll give you a great answer. >> final thing, why is it so important for him to keep repeating that line, he's the founder of isis, as you say and everyone who understands this, it's a figurative hyperbole. >> because it's true and because hillary clinton is, in fact, a co-founder. this is somebody that was a cheerleader for the iraq war for years who did a disastrous job in libya. the past nine interinvestigation, chris, military interventions we've gotten into, hillary clinton has supported seven. he's a warmonger. so i hope you are bernie sander's supporting viewers, realize there is a moral call to be made here if you vote for that woman. >> donald trump currently said he's going to bomb the [ bleep ] out of isis. we'll see who that is.
thanks a lot for joining me. appreciate it. >> okay. >> i am joined by political reporter of the daily boast and john harwood and cnbc chief washington correspondent. betsy, i heard increasing talk of the dole strategy. are you a republican. politicos sort of consult apt, particularly the folks not attacked talking about the strategy, which is cut your loss, spend your money down ballot. how close are we to that scenario? >> i don't think that's going to happen t. reality is reince priebus and john spicer are socially invested in staying the course, sticking by tear man. not abandoned trump mid-stream. i think the fact that there is so much new found pressure or new found criminal of the way the rnc is handling this, actually highlights how many different little factions there are in the republican party right now. the reality is some of the folks pushing the rnc, a couple dozen signed a letter published written about today a. lot of the folks pushing the rnc to do this are people that worked on
mccain and romney's campaign. it's not people from the last successful presidential campaign from george bush's 2004 effort. just highlight how much unoorganized the anti-trump cut him loose efforts are. >> john, the other problem here, here is trump responding to this threat, which i thought is interesting, he says, if it's true, that's okay, too, because all i have to do is stop funding the republican party. i am the one raising the money for them. in fact, right now i'm in orlando, if they want to do that, they can save me a lot of energy. there is a lot, is bringing in a lot of money now, that gives him quite a bit of power on the negotiation. >> betsy may be right. ma ib the rnc won't drop him. but the comments he made tonight and on our air this morning about going on a nice vacation, if he loadss, does not make you
think he considers himself a part of a team trying to win this game. when he's, in effect, daring the republican party, saying, yeah, you want to do that, go ahead. it will be a lot easier for me. well, at this point in the race, he's down by seven or eight points if you look at the average of national polls. many republican, including people like pat toomey in pennsylvania. kelly ayotte in new hampshire, think that they are being pulled down by him. i think the pressure for republicans as you see more and more repudiateing him to drop donald trump is going to increase and it doesn't seem like donald trump cares all that much. >> you mentioned kelly ayotte. seen pick running after her with trump masks, literally embodying the problem she has. betsy, the other thing is if you are reince priebus, if you are downing donald trump, we are talking senate race, south carolina will be a two-point
margin, there will be state senators and state reps and maybe council people and a lt. gov. swept up in that kind of level of electoral massacre, that that is bigger than the six contestants ven rate. >> i think it's plausible, not guaranteed, that 2016 can become sort of an inversion of 2010, when we see a down ballot effect that the republican party has a mass of trouble putting itself back together. if you talk to republican operatives, what they'll tell you is their last shred of hope comes from the fact that democrats haven't been recruiting to get candidates to be competitive, for instance in the south carolina gubernatorial race. i'm not sure who running is. that's not where democrats have been spending. if democrats had been spending more on the dnc more say in texas, say in georgia, it might be even more of a blood bath for
republicans than it will be right now. >> that said, i mean the georgia number, especially, are kind of god smacking. >> john, that quote that you identified, it struck me so much on cnbc's air, if you are listening to mike priebus or mike pence or anyone else, basically if we do that, it's in my butt, anyways, that is not particularly encouraging. >> definitely not. i talked to a republican member of congress earlier this week and asked about, what are your members going to do? and the answer was, this is a team sport. we need to hang in with the guy who is leading our team but if members of congress come to believe he does not feel he is a part of a team and he is not particularly invested in fighting this game to the last inning or the last quarter you want to pick, i think there is a danger that more and more will walk away from them. look, you had all those
republican national security officials sign tag letter. you had people like carlos gutierrez and frank lavin say they're not for him. brent psychocroft say they're against him. the more potential of a snowball effect. >> here's that picture of kelly ayotte right there. thank you very much. coming up, what do people like least about donald trump? there is one thing trump did in this campaign that more than eight in ten vote, agree is not okay. if first conspiracy theory built on the right that president obama is not a bad leader but an enemy of the state. that's next.
barack obama is the founder. he is the founder in a true sense. >> donald trump is clearly pretty proud of this line, a line that is obviously patently and viciously untrue. but more than sloppy wording or rhetorical flourish, a case that donald trump in particular has been building, barack obama is not a president we disagree with, he is fundamentally foreign, other possibly alive with the enemies of the united states. donald trump was eager to jump into the league. >> people are trying to figure out why isn't he giving his birth certificate. it's not a birth certificate. i say very simply, why doesn't he show his birth certificate? >> there were suggestions president obama labeling him the apologizeer in chief wants to deliberately diminish america's power on the world stage. here's one example, marco rubio repeatedly in the republican
primary. >> it became abundantly clear was this, barack obama was deliberately weakening america. he made an intentional effort to humble us back to size as if to say, we no longer need to be so powerful because our power has done more harm than good. >> trump political season brought back the more blunt suggestions of president obama's true allegiance, something he discussed one day after the orlando mass shooting. >> we are led by a man that eater is, is not tough, not smart, or has got something else in mind and the something else in mind, people can't believe. they cannot believe that president obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words radical islamic terrorism. there's something going on. >> there's something going on. that's the fuller context of trump last night, repeated again and again today, saying president obama is the founder of isis, joining me is sabrina
siddiqui, i think people have been willing to out hyperbole that they talked about the assault ban that is hyper bollic. myself, it's not rhetoric. what's key to me is the context here of this same time, last night, it was very interesting, he said, barack hussein obama in the midst of. that what's the context here as you see it as someone who has covered this and written about it? >> well, the fact of the matter is that donald trump is vocalizing what many republicans have this up to the line and not specifically said. it goes back to what you were just pointing out the concept here is that this president, who is the first african-american president in the occupatiunited is not american, he's foreign, he's secretly a muslim when he's, in fact, a christian. you think of his comments, this
is not one statement that happened in isolation. of course, in 2011, 2012, he was spending his time really pushing the birther conspiracy, claiming to spend private investigators to hawaii to track down president obama's birth certificate. when the attack happened in orlando, donald trump said that maybe president obama actually understands terrorism all too well, implying she a sympathizer. when president obama went to a mosque, i said donald trump said maybe he feels comfortable there. this is a patent of remarks that speaks to his base of supporters. it goes back to a campaign that is rooted in native. >> shocking to this day the a shocking high persont annual of republicans believe the president lied about hit birthplace, isn't american or is secretly muslim, despite the fact that he's a christian. that's a belief held. you can say, well, donald trump doesn't talk about the birtherrism anymore, when he says barack hussein obama is the founder of isis, that is being
injacquied into a set of folks who already have views of the president that he is essentially been lying, that these a fifth column. that he's an enemy of the u.s. who is sort of lying to all of to us bring the country down. >> and i think that's precisely because it's not just donald trumpch so as i was pointing out, a lot of republicans imply some of these things without actually going out and saying in the way that donald trump says that the president is actually a terrorist sympathizer. so you remember john mccain, for example, when the orlando shooting happened, initially said the president was directly responsible for that attack at the lbgt nightclub. -had to immediately walk it back. this is linked to quote/unquote trumpism. republicans have been obsessing with the fact that he talks about terrorism. that's been their central talking point when it comes to how he's handseled this threat opposed by isis. so president george w. bush also didn't use the radical term
islam. it goes back to not just questioning whether the president has handled the war against terror appropriately, whether or not he even thinks, whether or not he sympathizes, takes seriously the threat posed by muslim extremists so to speak. >> thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, hillary clinton today said trump has made a career out of stiffing small businesses. we will show you one small business trump tried to stiff but lost. that's next. you can watch your favorite team no matter where you live. like broncos or colts. (cashier) cool. (peyton) ah...18. the old number. ooh. i have got a coupon for that one. (vo) get nfl sunday ticket - only on directv. and watch live games anywhere.
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who said they are still owed over $200,000 after filings from 22 other contractors and subcontractors claiming trump's company failed to pay their contracts in full. trump's business attorney told the herald on a project of this magnitude, with hundreds of contractors, 20 liens isn't a great deal. what is important is the fact that things are getting paid. they didn't seem he can't settle up. perhaps they can't write checks fast enough. here's what the process looks like. trump had a $200,000 deal with the paint spot, a local small business. after the renovation the paint spot said it was still waiting for trump's company to pay the final $34,000 from the paint contract t. other than, juan carlos enenriquez sued. the manager of the general contractor for the doral renovation admitted that a decision was made not the pay the paint spot because trump, already paid enough.
okay. so this past may, miami-dade circuit judge jorge cueto ordered him to pay or the trump doral golf course would be closed. he filed the paperwork for a 9:00 a.m. foreclosure sale in june. a week later, pga announced it was pulling its tournament saying it couldn't find a sponsor. trump eventually fought off foreclosure by placing the $34,000 he owed in escrow, but it doesn't end there, the judge ruled last month that trump's company would have to compensate the paint shop for its legal fees to the tune of $300,000. last week trump's lawyers filed an appeal. again, this is a story of one of the 23 contractors from one of donald trump's properties. and in this one case, trump risked foreclosure of the property he bought for $150 million in order to withhold
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>> my grandfather worked at the scranton lace mill in scranton, pennsylvania for 50 years. and because he worked hard my dad was able to go to college and eventually start his own small business and then send me out into the world to follow my own dreams. no matter how far those dreams have taken me, i have always remembered, i am the daughter of a small business owner and the granddaughter of a factory worker and proud of both. >> hillary clinton did two things today in her big economic speech in michigan. one, she went head on at donald trump's popular appeal by portraying trump's economic plan as a destructive agenda, two, she's talked to more of the liberal policies she's adopted during the democratic primary. >> i will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down rages, including the
transpacific partnership. i oppose it now. i'll oppose it after the election. and i'm oppose it as president. strengthening unions doesn't just serve members, it leads to better pay and benefits and working conditions for all employees, giving americans in every state the choice of a public option health insurance plan that will help everybody afford coverage. it will strengthen competition and drive down costs. >> clinton also talked about expanding college tuition, raising minimum wage him mind this, she said this in the middle of an election when candidates are more likely to pivot toward the center dand while she courts prominent republicans and independents. joining me is an economic adviser who had advised hillary clinton on economic issues. allen, for those skeptical of hillary clinton on the tpp and
you worked for president obama, why should people believe she will oppose it or fight hard to make sure it doesn't pass in a lame duck session when the president the man that you work for, wants it so badly? >> i think she's been consistent that she wants trade agreements that lead to better jobs, higher wages and that promote our national security interests. >> let me ask you this about the fundament am issue here with the economy. the fundamental issue seems we have had record long private sector job growth. we are seeing unemployment going down, wages are going up. it's this distributional question, right, gains are fought make it to the worker, household wages have been stagnateing. what can hillary clinton do about that if she is president of the united states? >> first of all those problems are not unique to this recover. they have been going on for some time for over 30 years. i'm concerned that the longer they go on, the harder they become to solve, because higher
inequality reduces social mobile. so it creates something of an inequality track. a number of things secretary clinton proposed will help reduce an equality and do so quickly, raising the minimum wage, for example, having a smart credit for child care. one idea she had which she borrowed from republicans, going back to jack kevin is the new market traction credit which i believe helps to provide more opportunity in lower income areas. >> what is that? >> the new market tax credit gives a strong incentive for companies to invest in spec areas. can you define the areas the way you like and experience with it in the past has been very successful. >> there is also this question, the thing that lurks underneath all of this, there is this chart about fiscal austerity.
governments, you see the line there is going up is normally what happens is government fills in, people are employed. it's used to balancech we had the opposite. we had austerity here. you worked in walk, in the white house, is there an appetite for infrastructure expansion of the public sector given a republican opposition, is that realistic in. >> well, i hope republicans come around there. is no republican or democratic road. its just an american road and secretary clinton's proposed the biggest expansion investment in infrastructure since eisenhower. it makes a great deal of sense, given that unemployment still remains high for construction workers and given that it will raise our competitiveness and productivity in the future. >> given that treasuries are clearing in auctions at 1%, sometimes depending you get panicky in short term they will even go negative t. fact that
there are such low interest rates, why does secretary clinton have everything net out to be neutral? shouldn't we still be taking advantage of the incredible opportunities of these low interest rates for big investments and not be worrying about dig investments right now? >> i think her infrastructure plan does that. for example, tied, she highlighted the infrastructure bank, which can be leveraged, seeded with $25 billion from capital from government and the private sector could come in and purchase bond and finance these projects in other ways, potentially raising $250 billion or more she mentioned today to invest in our infrastructure. i think that's an excellent way of taking advantage of the low rate environment today to rebuild america. >> thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. coming up, trump's impact spauns the most devastating ad, exactly. why the:t campaign has made this moment a major part of their attack strategy against trump.
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>> thing 1 tonight there is no escape from trump republican, all you have to do is look at down senate race, right now the republican senator and former presidential candidate marco rubio and former future private citizen is in a too close to call race in florida. a fin pack university poll shows rubio a three-point lead over u.s. congressman patrick murphy. on last month's poll showed rubio ahead by 13 points, likely voters surveyed registered vote, were not quite apples to apples, still brutal. rubio endorsed trump. he has been keeping his distance from him on the campaign trail. moving up the map to pennsylvania, democrat katie mcginty is leading republican senator pat toomey by three
points, earlier in the summer the same pom, toomey was leading mcginty by ten points. toomey is saying he's in a mode waiting to be persuaded, whatever that means. let's keep going north to new hampshire, republican senator kelly ayotte is trailing ten points behind democratic governor maggie hassan, in that same pom in may she was two points behind, ayotte says she will vote for the nominee despite voicing disagreements with him. there are better examples of what the trump effect does to people. >> that is thing 2 in just 60 seconds. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends, three jobs... you're like nothing can replace brad. then liberty mutual calls... and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement™, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one.
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>> done john mccain said he will support donald trump. >> i vote the republican party. >> i never been a big fan of john mccain, john, i like people -- >> senator john mccain should be defeated in the primaries. >> i support the nominee. >> if she gets to pick her judg judges. >> although the second amendment people.
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>> today we face a choice about who we are as a nation. >> i'd like to punch him in the farks i tell you. >> do we help each other? in there knock the crap out of him, seriously. >> do we respect each other? >> i don't know what i said, i don't remember. >> hillary clinton used donald trump's own words against him in her first campaign ad of the general election way back in june. >> that last clip you saw of trump shows him mocking a "new york times" reporter with a genital condition affecting the joints, found its way into another ad, perhaps the brutally most effective featuring children watching the presidential nominee insult and attacking people, a pro clinton superpack released an ad with a
child of a disability describing how they felt watching trump mock that reporter. another featuring a child disabled, explaining his feelings on trump. the democratic national convention in philadelphia last month,opresented a wide variety of character attacks from a foreman student continued by his intent prize to members of congress on recovering money to of course the khan family, mounting ignorance and calling a question of sacrifices for this unk. also very prominently featured were people with disabilities, partly to mark the i was in of the americans with disabilitying a, to emphasize hillary clinton's own work and call out donald trump for mocking that reporter. >> donald trump has shown us who he really is and i honestly feel
bad for anyone in their heart. donald trump doesn't see me. he doesn't hear me and he doesn't speak for me. >> of all the objectionable things he said on the issues to attack him on, hillary clinton the democratic party focused pretty hard on this one, today we got a pretty clear answer as to why. and that is next. (lionel) ♪it's peyton... ♪it's peyton on sunday mornings.♪ (peyton) you know with directv nfl sunday ticket you can watch your favorite team no matter where you live. like broncos or colts.
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controversies out there, hillary clinton's party jumped on a number. one is resonating more with voters than others. a really interesting poll out from bloomberg. it asked likely vote first they were bothered by a number of controversies and statements trump has been responsible for over the course of the campaign. 75% assert he alone can fix america's problems, 75% of voters said they were bothered by trump's repeated attacks on the families of a fallen soldier. the one thing that bothers people, a whopping 83% of voters were bothered by trump mocking a reporter with disabilities. 62% said they were bothered a lot by that particular trump insult. as for the candidate, himself, he denied mocking the reporter's disability just last month. >> i had no idea what he looked like. he said he met him in the 1980s i had no idea. i spent millions of dollars making buildings good for people that are disabled. okay. millions and millions of dollars. do you think i'd ever do a thing like that? what i was indicating a man that
was groveling. he was groveling to try and change the story that he had written many years before so that it worked out badly for trump. so do i that, they said i was mocking his disability. i had no idea that he was disabled. none. >> joining me now a foreman pomster of the dnc, it's great to have you both. i should note the americans with zablts act requires you with federal mandates to build ramps. >> he has been sued for not doing that. >> so you don't get points for obeying federal law. kornell, let me start with you on the polk, i was sitting in the dnc, i'm watching it over four days, they keep hammering this, i keep thinking that was a really gross moment in the trump campaign, but it was one moment and in the panorama, it got a ton of attention, i thought, okay, i bet they did polling on
this also. >> you think? a little bit? you know, one of the things that's important here is the temperament to be president, right? that the a driving nexus this cycle on on the presidential choice and the idea that he is mean spirited. he is a bully, is particularly problematic with women. this is a target, targeted right at sort of driving wedge between donald trump and independent women. look, one of the things about president obama that even some, a slight number of republican women would admit to in 28 was, you know what, this guy is a role model, i might not like his policy-se someone as a role model that can look up to his kids, there is not a woman that can argue donald trump is a role model, i think this is a devastating attack particularly for women. >> well, lids, have you done, one reason i want you here, you have done phenomenal reporting on people with disabilities.
it's something have you done for a long time. does it hearten you to see this polling? >> yeah. i think it's a great sign, but i'm not surprised. people with disabilities make up one in five americans. it's a huge growing minority of people. it's the only demographic or any one of us could one day join, right? >> this is so key, you can attack muslims and folks in america who don't know a single muslim or some other group, this is, we're talking about folks everything from people with congenital ill insides, car accidents, everyone to veterans. everyone has something in their life that struggled. you see this as plain wrong. it's not just one moment in donald trump's career, life where he's done something offensive to people with disabilitys. this is the second time he mocked a reporter with a disability. he mocked a man a year ago in an interview and written a book
criminaled america, which is a slur for disability. he has been sued many times because of the ada, his casino, the taj mahal the doj had to actually intervene to make sure it was accessible. >> that they were ada client. >> exactly. you couldn't get into the building, when you talk to people with disabilities, they will tell you that donald trump when he says i give money to people with a disability. i am doing the right thing. they don't want his charity, they don't want his money. they want policy. >> i want to play this piece. take a listen. >> there's so much power in being zabd. the little hurdled that we go over, they're humongous. >> we are a part of the future and that's the world that they create, you know, then we should be first in line. >> one of the thing, it was like can you see people's political
consciousness formed by being attacked. >> right. >> they were aware that trump has done this, it was in their conscious inside as well. >> and disability be every this election was not a part of the ticket. >> exactly. >> it's become a partisan issue, you have one party the dnc the visibility of people with disabilities. even hillary clinton's campaign buttons had, were able, i mean, a-- the visibility was amazing. and then have you another party that's embarrassing people with zaeshlths that's not showing policy that treating them less than human. >> we should keep in mine, george h.w. bush signed the ada. there is all sort of stuff we fight about. abortion, right? marginal tax rates the minimum wage. this has not traditionally been up with of them. you worked in politics for a while. it's not something you fight about generally in a political
campaign? >> it was a major stumble. it showed his character. they jumped on it because it's unique. for better or worse, there are di vice it fault lines that benefits you for going after latino americans, going after african americans, gay, gay and lesbian american, muslims, there is a percentage based that that will actually help with you on that 26. there is no dividing line around attacking people with disabilities. >> that's right. >> it is fought partisan, there is no constituency out there that says, i'm afraid of those with disabilitys. >> thank you both for joining us. i appreciate it a lot. all right. that is "all in" for now. just for now. we're going to be back again tonight, two hours. live at 11:00 eastern. you do not want to miss that. the "rachel maddow" starts right now. i will pass it to you. >> we will see you at 11:00 a.
little rest. rachel has the night off. we begin in the middle of march in the year 2004. one year sense the u.s. launched its invasion of iraq. this was just a couple weeks after john kerry swept through the super tuesday primary states and become the presumptive democratic nominee to the president. the general election matchup was set, kerry, bush. george w. bush the incumbent president and president bush called john kerry, the night of his big super tuesday wins and congratulated him. said he looked forward to the fight in the fall. then bush's campaign did something that wasn't very grabs or magnanimous, they went after kerry very hard. they went after him on the issue that many voters thought was supposed to be the strength for john kerry, remember he was