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unconditional released from his player contract and serve as a special adviser working with various players. his new contract runs through december of 2017. but i don't think we're going to be seeing him playing third base tonight, betty. >> that's what we heard. okay. he was denied. >> yeah. >> that's going to do it for "way too early." i'm betty nguyen alongside louis burgdorf. "morning joe" starts right now. >> what they've done to miners is incredible in the administration. if you remember with obamacare he said you can keep your plane, you can keep your doctor. >> he is the founder of isis. i have been all over this country. we have the greatest people anywhere in the world. the greatest people. >> a big part of the system is the press itself. >> the media --
>> nafta is a disaster. >> syrian refugees, people have no idea who they are. they could be isis. they're being put next to you in your neighborhood. >> hillary clinton will be worse than obama. >> crooked hillary clinton. she's going to raise taxes. >> we have to get -- >> i don't like herbreak. >> i don't like her temperament. her temperament is the temperament of a loser. >> wow. >> yeah. on this friday morning. >> that's a look there at the different tones between trump after hours from our friends at bloomberg politics. >> i got a look at exposed brick behind you. >> bob costas said we could use his flat in new york.
>> for the record we're not. >> we're in bobs -- >> reminds me of the coffee shop you used to go to in des moines. >> java joes. >> good morning. we're limping to the weekend here. you had quite a show last night. that was crazy. we'll show some pictures later. we're going to show them now. this is morning joe music. live. crazy crowd. it was packed. it was like a sweatbox. it was hot and it was rowdy. it was a lot of fun. >> a lot of fun so along with pictures of this we might actually get to news. we have willie with us and also
john. >> hello john. >> channel 5 is ready for you. >> politico reporter and political analyst robert costa and columnist and associate editor for the washington post joins us. it's great to have david here because it is serious now. >> that's not serious enough for you? >> that was a fluke. >> i'll allow it. >> so on wednesday night. >> are you the buster douglas of presidential historians. >> he was so excited. >> it was a fluke but that's
okay. >> that was mean. >> i speak truth. >> on wednesday night donald trump labeled president obama the founder of isis. you would think he would say, that's not what i meant. some stupid backtrack that isn't admitting to any wrong doing. no apology. the second amendment thing. treating people like they're so stupid that they actually have to believe the lie of a backtrack. >> when does he ever backtrack. >> in this case he actually for what might be the most extreme statement he has made so far, and there have been many, he is doubling down. >> so he spent all of yesterday making sure that everybody knew that when he said the president was the founder of isis what he really meant was the president was the founder of isis. >> last night you said the was the founder of isis. i know what you meant.
you meant that he created the vacuum. i meant he's the founder of isis. i do. he's the most valuable player. i give him the most valuable player award. >> but he's not sympathetic to them. he hates them. he's trying to kill them. >> he was the founder. the way he got out of iraq, that was the founding of isis. >> i call president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. they're the funners. in fact, i think we'll give hillary clinton, the you know of your sports team, most valuable player, mvp award. you get the mvp award. isis will hand her the most val valuable player award. her only competition is barrack obama between the two of them. >> they just sat back and waited and when we left, basically, isis was formed and he calls it isil and the reason he calls it
isil is he likes to bother everyone. but isis was formed. >> aren't those statements inflammatory when you say something like that. >> i tell the truth. actually a lot of people like that i said it. he is the founder of isis and hillary clinton is right there with him. >> the president has been trying to play down isis like it's not that big of a deal, like they're not as powerful. we should knock them out. we should not the hell out of them. he's not willing to do that. as far as i'm concerned and i'll say it and i'll say it to anybody that wants to listen, he is a founder of isis. they must love him because without him you wouldn't have the threat, the horrible situation going on around the world. >> if he would have kept a relatively small force, he probably could have prevented isis from forming, okay. and now you look at what's going on with isis where they're
spreading and they're probably spreading into our country when we allow that many people to come in from that region, they're probably spreading into our country. >> willie this fits into his last statements after error attacks where he said, well, you know, he done know what he's doing or maybe he knows exactly what he's doing where he throws that piece of meat out there that maybe he's in a conspiracy with isis and here he is stripping that away. he is saying she the founder of isis. >> it's hard to catalog them at this point but it's right up there with the most ou rageous things he has said. i think this is maybe what you meant donald and he said no i men he was the founder of isis. donald sees all the agitation and the press and among democrats and he hears it's getting people worked up and offending them and pushing the
button harder. >> and yesterday general michael hayden put it better than anyone could have because there's rerepercussions to this kind of talk. it's not just what danger he could pose as president. it's that he's corrupting the conversation now. he's taking it to a level where people can have a legitment conversation about what might have gone wrong in the middle east. >> you heard this type of talk from the most extreme voices in talk radio and the impact is its dumbed down the republican debate. some of the most extreme voices filtered into the mainstream of republican thought and now what you have is actually the person at the head of the republican party actually saying something every bit as extreme as the most extreme talk radio conspiracy theorists would have said 20 or 30 years ago. five years ago. saying that he was the founder of isis makes about as much
sense and is just as stupid as saying that fdr bombed pearl harbor. >> 30 years is a great number because there's a left wing version of this which was ted kennedy's speech when he went to the floor of the senate. >> another great example of the coarsening of american political debate. >> that was hyperbolic on the democratic side and in the first bush administration the gingrich and the rise of talk radio, which was exploding at that point, limbaugh went from really starting out nationally in '88, '89 to endorsing pat buchanan in 1992. so you're right about the intellectual content of a lot of these arguments as you really can't call it intellectual content. that's an insult to intellectual content but there's a really important debate to be had about what happened, how isis started. was it the disbanding of the iraqi army?
250,000 people suddenly without jobs. what happened when we with drew troops in 2011 because this is the kind of geo politics we're going to be dealing with. >> and this is especially for somebody hike me who believes that barrack obama quickly moving the troops out of iraq when there had finally been some stability there and then not reacting at all in a way that could prevent the suffering in syria, actually has lead to 6 years of hell not only for the middle east but now for europe and for america and for the rest of the world. that argument, the ability to have that debate is thrown out the window by such remarks as donald trumps. >> i think you're right, joe. it's a kind of crazy trash talk from trump. a professional wrestling match. almost like the words aren't
supposed to mean anything and it drives out the conversation we should be having. we're in a war now. it's a tough one and if he had said in these statements president obama created a vacuum into which isis flowed, we would all say, that makes an important point. that's one that hillary clinton has to answer. instead, he goes right into the crazy talk which has the effect of devaluing the debate. our country is at war. i have been traveling watching the people fighting that war. for them to hear their commander and chief created their adversary at the same day he is ordering multiple bombing raids on the adversary it's a situation we never had in america. this loose construction of the facts. >> and bob another great example of the dysfunction in the trump campaign. they'll get together and they come up with their game plan and they come up with their
communication plan for the day and then nobody delivers it to trump or if they do, he doesn't listen to it. >> i was spending time with the gop base in northern illinois. it's not anymore of this hawkish critique. it's really just about strength, power, nationalism. that's the way the gop base was talking about foreign policy and that's the way trump is talk about foreign policy. the only thing i'm surprised about is that he's not bringing up president george w. bush. we saw this during the primary. he nearly has this blame of the past whether it's obama or bush of disorder in the middle east and he's trying to say something totally differ but he does it in such language. >> and i'd love to hear what david has to say, it's a weird combination of isolationism and anxiety about projecting strength. >> it's speaking loudly and
carrying a small stick. speak brashly and carrie a little, little stick. carrie around a q-tip because with a he says is we're turning syria over to the russians. we're not going to get involved. so he is talking big. >> it's the important one because people that know paul manafort say he encourages trump's non-hawkish tilt. he says the hawks got it wrong. he was never part of the bush crowd. he really stopped in '96 and the republican mainstream so that is who is influencing him at the moment. >> you could hear it yesterday. the frustration that there's a case to be prosecuted. that president obama and hillary clinton made isis worse. not that they founded it but made it worse.
you might use a letter written ned by the last remaining doctors in syria. they got together and wrote a letter begging president obama to come help them. he said we don't need your tears or your prayers. we need american action. >> it was less than half the effort of the clinton campaign and less than a third of the surrogates. >> he has tricdriven it into th ground and thank you to donald trump he is bringing it back and i hope people really listen to what he is saying and think about it. hillary clinton responded to trump's statement tweeting it can be difficult to muster out rage as frequently as donald trump should call it but his smear against president obama requires it. no, barrack obama is not the founder of isis. anyone willing to sink so low so often should never be allowed to serve as our commander in chief.
>> >> there's an article on how you report even candidly on candidates when one is so off the charts when it comes to sane political discourse. i'll not sure how we debate this. >> i was at a loss of words yesterday. how do you do it? >> and how much do you fear for this run if this man is the commander and chief that goes out and delivers press conferences every day when he clearly said i'm not changing. this is who i am. >> this is a real dilemma. when you have a guy that goes out and makes a flat out false statement every day repeatedly. president obama funned isis. how do you cover that?
and and to pin him down on the lies in the news story and we haven't been in this territory before. i would just note one final point. in all of these statements, if trump has been reading the hillary clinton campaign plan for how to destroy donald trump. this is exactly what they want. their whole idea is let's show that he is temperamentally unfit to be president and every day he gives them ammunition. it's as if he done understand what his weaknesses really are in this general election. >> so bob i'm curious whether your sources on the campaign are with mine. there's a feeling from top to bottom he's not going to win. there's a disuppondency that he
becoming even more isolated and that again, people like manafort can sit and try to plan but it's not breaking through and more and more people on that campaign are starting to say it doesn't look like he wants to win and what am i going to do after this blows you. >> my reporting reflects that. not within the campaign but within the upper levels of the republican party. when you're on capitol hill and talking to top people in congress they're starting to say maybe we have to detach ourselves from trump. maybe he is isolated on the 26th noor of trump tower and you have to run a second campaign. >> maybe? >> it's august they're still with him. >> why. >> they want to still believe they need that vote. >> they need to stop believing that. >> they do. >> who cares. >> but hold on a second. you condition win the presidency if you're a republican without
that populus vote and getting more diverse members in your coalition. trump isn't going to do that. let's say she offends all of donald trump supporters which, by the way, aren't just donald trump supporters. they were ronald reagan's reagan democrats. they were the people that elected bill clinton in 1992. they were the people that elected george w. bush in new hampshire in 2000. these are people that are going to still be there even two, four, six, eight years from now. but john, at this point, i just wonder, can you give us a good historical president? you think nixon '73, '74 but even he had kisnger. of a political leader as completely isolated. you have donald trump alone with
people afraid to speak truth to him. you have his son-in-law deciding that he is going to run the entire campaign without any outside professional help. and then you have this other group and none of them can get through to donald trump. he is isolated. he does not take any advice. >> right. that's a great way to put it is part of the temperament of being president is having the capacity to listen and learn. you can reject the advice you get and a lot of them do and you want to have a president that has certain policy literacy that they can assess the validity of what's coming in. you're right. nixon is probably there. it's not even johnson late in vietnam because he had clark.
i can't see anyone seemingly isolated as that. people have been polling on temperament since the kennedy years and before he got out and got back in he doubled the number of americans saying he got out and got back in. >> to the point robert was making, i don't understand why they would need donald trump to get to those people. why can't you, and why can't members of the republican party start learning how to get to the people they need to get to without a democrat who is loose with the facts, who lies about people, who mocks people on national television and abuses them and has no policy. >> that's the sell that you have to make. >> that's the sell you have to make. the sell is listen this guy has been a democrat for 65 or 66 years. he doesn't care about me.
he doesn't care about you. he done care about the republican party. he doesn't care that chuck schumer is going to be running the united states senate. he doesn't care that nancy pelosi is going to be speaker of the house. he went to hillary clinton's wedding. >> he has given money to democrats. >> and, you know, the counter argument is of course well if you don't support trump, hillary clinton is going to get elected. hillary clinton is going to get elected anyway. way things are going hillary clinton is going to get elected anyway. >> republican base voters don't fully believe that. when you're on the campaign trail they still talk about well the debates he can come back. so if you're running for office sometimes you're in a difficult spot where you're not always making the moral choice. you may be advised to make, you're making the political choice. if you have a very slim chance of survival. >> win or lose this political choice is so wrong. >> the thing is willie, the
bitter truth for these -- >> and they'll pay. >> for these candidates is not only does donald trump not care whether they win or lose, people in trump's own staff are starting to say, he is going to lose, he is going to blame us and he's going to throw us overboard because the one thing every donald trump staffer will tell you is he never ever takes any of the blame himself. he always screams at staffers. that's what is starting to happen. >> people are getting kicked off. >> forget the republican senators across america. even trump's own staff is now awakening to the fact that he is going to blame them for the stupid things he says and they're going to be out of luck. >> he said something yesterday
when he was asked about the prospect of losing the race. he said well if i lose, i go back to a very nice life. if you're a politician not fighting for his life, not afraid of losing, that's not a good place to be. that's not where you want your candidate to be. >> you talk about isolation, this is a candidate that isolates himself by choice. he doesn't get advice from advisors. this is how he has been operating from day one. it's total gut instinct. this is who trump is. >> still ahead, hillary clinton fires back at donald trump's speech on the economy. >> what about trade? after all trump talks about it all the time. my message to every worker in michigan and across america is this, i will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages including the transpacific partnership. i oppose it now.
i'll oppose it after the election, and i'll oppose it as president. >> we're going to dig into that and also the new piece on what he says is the much bigger threat to jobs than trade deals and immigration. plus donald trump told the washington post that he has a secret state strategy and it apparently includes connecticut. >> yeah. >> why he is taking his campaign there this weekend. we're back in a moment. >> i tell the truth. i'm a tuth teller. all i do is tell the truth and if at the end of 90 days i have fallen short because i'm politically correct even though i'm supposed to be the smart one and have a lot of good ideas. it's okay. i go back to a very good way of life. at safelite, we know how busy life can be. these kids were headed to their first dance recital... ...when their windshield got cracked... ...but they couldn't miss the show.
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electoral math unrecognizable to recent republican campaigns. he heads to connecticut on saturday night. a state last taken by a republican when george h.w. bush won there. since then democrats have won by about 17 points. >> the martini primary. >> there's that. a poll in skrun showed clinton leading trump by 7. >> 7 points in connecticut, that's pretty close by connecticut standards when you look at the fact that barrack obama got mid 60s in connecticut. >> this is trump's view. another state republicans won't won is pennsylvania and the whole strategy is rouse the white working class and maybe you have a shot. >> and another state that hahn won since 1988, maine and he's going up and campaigning in maine as well. >> while trump savored ten dorisments of legendary basketball coaches it's a good thing for him that auriemma will
be in rio. the coach of the olympics women's basketball was asked whether his team's dominance in international play was bad for the sport and he answered in part, we have lived in that trumpian area where it's okay to be sexist and degrade people that are just good because they're the opposite sex. >> meanwhile trump picked up the endorsement of utah governor gary herbert but he has taken note that the state seems to be closer than in years past. >> you have a hans to do something that will be earth shaking. i literally mean it earth shaking. you have to get your people out to vote and especially in the states where we're represented.
having a tremendous problem in utah. utah is a different place -- is anybody here from utah? i mean, it's -- i didn't think so. we're having a problem. >> that will help you in utah. >> as long as we're talking history, 1964, the last time a democrat won utah when lyndon johnson won there. hillary clinton is writing op eds in newspapers. they smell blood in utah. >> there's bill clinton in utah. also all the way up the east coast. some people are predicting there's a possibility of something, i don't know the last time it happened. i guess maybe 72 but you have a candidate that can win the entire east coast. south carolina is ify.
all the way up, american. >> a lot of it depends on what the two corinthians do. >> coming up we'll dig into the mustard opinion pages, in just a moment. this car is traveling over 200 miles per hour. to win, every millisecond matters. both on the track and thousands of miles away. with the help of at&t, red bull racing can share critical information about every inch of the car from virtually anywhere. brakes are getting warm. confirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. understood, brake bias back 2 clicks. giving them the agility to have speed & precision. because no one knows & like at&t. i'm hillary clinton, and i approve this message. michael hayden: if he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i would be very frightened. gillian turner: he's been talking about
option of using a nuclear weapon against our western european allies. max boot: this is not somebody who should be handed the nuclear codes. charles krauthammer: you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament controlling the nuclear codes? and as of now, i'd have to say no. [bill o'reilly sighs]
>> so we actually showed four different news outlets showing donald trump doubling down on his ridiculous and dangerous and crazy statements that president obama is the founder of isis. we thought he would backtrack but instead he doubled down four times over in serious interviews. well he is tweeting now saying ratings challenged cnn reports so seriously that i call president obama and clinton the founder of isis and mvp. don't they get sarcasm? >> cnn is doing pretty well. and secondly there was no -- no he doubled down and triple down. >> he makes the assassination comment and then it's a joke. now he doubles down for two days on him being the founder of isis and then two days later after doubling down yesterday he says
that it's sarcasm. >> what has he done? watched two days of news and realized that's a bad thing to say which is frightening that he needs to be told that was a bad thing to say. >> what's the impact of your commander and chief to hold a press conference and you say some really inflammatory things about china or russia or turkey or our rivals or if you insult our friends over a two daytime period? trying to clean it up by saying he is being sarcastic just doesn't do it. >> i can't speak to the effect of u.s. troops serving in this theater in syria or iraq but i'm sure it's upsetting but i'd have to think that that level of dismissal would bother them. i was at a conference where 15 prominent republicans were
gathered. foreign policy they do not want to serve hillary clinton and they believe in the ideas about strength and seriousness and trade and for them to watch donald trump take their party and to a completely different place was very traumatic. one thing i begin to hear is people saying maybe this is going to end up in such a blowout that it's going to burn the craziness in the party out and that the republican party will be liberated from this very difficult period in the next cycle. >> so mika, you and bob were talking in the break and you have the theory and i think you're dead on, for people that know trump, about why he is getting even more erratic on the campaign trail.
well, he is not the person we knew. i think he is exhausted. i don't think he slept. i don't think he slept since the nomination and before when he was starting to realize he was going to win the domination. it impacts your judgment and mood and ability to connect with people and obtain and take in and process information and i think he's losing it. >> and most importantly your decision making. >> i suggested he's at his worst when he's exhausted and he said i'm so high energy. so i think this is how he sees himself. always high energy. always on even if he is tired
but when he is tired he is absolutely at his worse. >> that may be true but there's no level of sleep deprivation that would make us call the president of the united states the founder of isis. >> again i think the story is about the party and leaders in the party and when they're going to realize this is a crisis moment for you. you have a crisis candidate. you have a candidate who is the chaos candidate that's not even a republican possibly. that's not going to stick by his word and help you with his policies or keep his promises. he has proven this. how much more does he need to do? >> it's as though the republican party sold it's soul and the check has bounced. so the question is do they want him to win or as david said is the establishment view all right we work through this and it's a
fever that breaks? and i wouldn't bet on that. if he's looking at 37 to 43%. do we think he's going to get on the golf cart and just drive off? i don't think so. i think he's going to try to remain a figure. going forward it's a fascinating question. >> if you don't confront it now it's still here between 2016 and 2020. this idea that the party reverts back to being a party of mitch mcconnell and movement conservatism. >> paul ryan, who are you? mitch mcconnell who are you with this situation. it's not been coming from me. >> with more morning joe, we return. ge is an industrial company that actually builds world-changing machines. machines that can also communicate digitally. like robots. did you build that robot? that's not a robot, that's my coworker earl.
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where most traditional jobs have vanished. >> that's been an on going problem obviously t united states seeing statistics before about how millions of people would still be in work today if we were just as productive as we were in 1993. but we become more productive aisha lot of places producing same amount of goods and products. they're doing it with people on the factory floor. >> it involves substituting machines for labor. we're just on the cusp now of something that i think is so much bigger and more transformative. and i dugout a study by mckenzie and company. they estimate within the coming
years we'll be in a situation where 45% of all american work activity can be replaced by machines. 59% of manufacturing jobs will be vulnerable. you think will will be only blue collar workers on an assembly line, no. if machines learn to speak language almost as well as humans and they're very close you could take out 66% of the jobs so it's just an enormous transition. they're driving our campaign and creating this anger in the country. just wait until these transformations begin to bite. that's what i was saying today is people need to begin to thi ahead how are we going to take
care of americans in the world that's coming. >> the big story shouldn't be about the republican candidate. you would think it would be about hillary clinton but it's not and thankfully. >> i don't know if it should be about her or not. i personally think donald trump is a threat to the republic. so it's the important thing to discuss. >> no but this hits at something important that i hn thought of before but we're at this moment in american history where we're talking about basic threats to democracy and an angry and emotionally volatile group of the electorate. maybe we can use this moment to talk about things we haven't been able to talk about before like a universal basic income. it's a really radical idea for most americans but i do believe one of the reasons why trump is generating so much, so much
passion is that anxieties exist. anxieties about people's place in the world exist and for working class white people directing that -- he is able to direct that anger. if they were not economically anxious it would not be so easy to sway them. >> and the thing is, you have seen it not only in the republican party this year but obviously with bernie sanders just an explosive response. >> that's right. john can speak to the historical analog here. people were incredibly anxious about automation. they took this on and tried to demist identify this idea of the future and i wonder if there's something that can happen there. american people, especially the work class, working class people of color are having a hard time imagining themselves in this
future fdr said the two most dangerous men in america were huey and mcarthur. and you had an occasion for a lot of people. european totalitarianism and by the time 15 or 13 years passed the solutions were both state and private the new deal but the building of private industry. >> so the question -- i'm sorry. go ahead. >> the argument that you hear from some people in silicon valley is the connectivity that we have and the unleashing of technology creates opportunity for people around the world that otherwise wouldn't have it. >> tell that to the people at the trump rallies. >> i understand but the argument that the robots are coming and the jobs are going away. technology does unleash
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>> trying to pass for olympic gold and she's going to do it. >> you are the first african american woman to medal in an individual event in swimming. what does that mean to you simone. >> it means a lot. this is not just for me. it's for a whole bunch of people that came before me and have been an inspiration for me and for all people after me and i want to be an inspiration that you can do it. >> it makes all of this and we're going to go down to rio on a coffee shop in a side street right by the stadium and bring in willie geist. how is it down in rio. looked like an incredible night last night. how was it down there? >> it was great. >> how are you willie?
>> this is our rio desk. >> that was an unbelievable night. you can believable. you can go through it. michael phelps blowing out the field that included ryan lochte he gets his fourth consecutive in the event and they stopped the game and put it on pause and both teams watched him win gold. simone biles winning the gold medal in gymnastics all around with 2.1 points over aly raisan that was about perfect. her margin of victory was not only the biggest ever in women's gymnastics it's larger than the margins of victory from 1980 through 2012 combined and then you saucy moan manuel.
she became the first african american woman ever to win a gold medal in an individual swimming event. >> that's really amazing willie. you could bring mika and me a t-shirt back. >> looking great down this. >> do you want wins? >> and throw a shrimp on the barbie. >> you're a fool man. real really quickly, michael phelps, he wins every time he gets in the pool. the next closest in the history of the olympics is nine. mark spitz, carl lewis. those are the icons. he has 22 gold. >> that's a lot. we'll be right back. with more. ♪ ♪
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