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master brander, donny deutch by my side. the political world spends a lot of time talking about the public image of presidential candidates. after donald trump's campaign changes this week, many eyes are now cast on the cast of characters advising the republican nominee. we will talk about a few of them to start off tonight. we will begin with the newest e addition, former breitbart executive steve bannan. before yesterday he was not all that well known. now there are profiles galore about his resume and political repertoire. over the past 24 hours, the "new york times" has called him both a conservative media provocateur and the single most influential figure in the trump campaign. others called him a media bomb thrower. so far he hasn't done much to define himself since being added to the team. best we can tell, the only interview he's done since trump's announcement is a brief
talk with josh green in which bannon suggested he can work with the republican party. how is the brand faring so far and when's the impact right now on trump? >> this, everything clicked for me on this. i want to talk about the trump/bannon brand. it's no secret i said all along, talking about trump the man, not this guy doesn't want to be president. he wants to run, he never expected to be here. he also doesn't want to lose. i couldn't figure out, okay, what's he going to do here. he is literally going into the revolution business, literally. what he's going -- he's doubling down, obviously. we know he will be the anti-establishment versus the establishment of republicans and democrats, not enough to win election. there just isn't. the math doesn't add up. but coming out of the election, if he's a revolutionary, not a loser but i've got 40 million people following me and i don't care, this is just the beginning, i didn't lose, and it's a media political technology empire with basically bannon as the media guy and
trump as the salesman, this is a new political party, a new movement, he wins even if he loses. it became very clear to me. >> i think bannon should not have let himself be so defined by others. he's got an impressive resume. he's responsible for what goes on at breitbart. there's a lot of stuff on there that's defined him as negative, niche, dark. the guy also has a record of accomplishment as a businessman and i haven't found any clear answer in what i have read and in my own reporting what exactly he's going to do. is he in charge of message, in charge of building some future network, is he managing the campaign as a business guy? i have no idea but i can tell you the press right now, the filter they are putting on bannon is the one a lot of the press wants to put on trump, which is he's given up, he's just going to go dark appear negative and populist. i don't think that's what they're doing from talking to people in the campaign but that's the impression. i think right now the bannon brand is infecting the trump brand in a negative way. >> the world is changing.
there will be a new political media party business empire coming out of this representing those 30 or 40 million people trump has hit. the other trump staffer everyone is talking about, his new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, who since her promotion has announced she's -- since her promotion was announced has gotten glowing reviews -- go back to that. >> establishmentarans. quote, no one is better at understanding what real people are thinking and "wall street journal" editorial board wrote miss conway is one of the best people in politics, a sincere conservative for a talent finding language to connect with viewers who aren't policy wonks or political addicts. this morning, conway says she's been humbled by the praise and as good campaign managers do, she directed the good vibes towards her boss. >> i'm not a huge identity politics fan, but it was pointed
out to me, i didn't know this, that i'm the first female republican presidential campaign manager. i didn't know that. nor did donald trump mention it to me. no one at trump tower said it to me. that's not why i was promoted. i think that speaks very well of him. he has women in the trump corporation for many years promoting them. i feel like advancing in their careers and i feel like i'm the latest example of that. >> i promise i'm going to read this right. in the same interview, she also auditioned the balancing act she is likely to attempt in days ahead, trying to find the sweet spot between letting trump be trump and keep his message on track. >> we would like him to continue to give speeches like the two we heard this week. >> teleprompter based. >> when he delivers a speech in his own words, in his own delivery system, then people can actually focus on the content. >> i think we are going to sharp be the message and we are going to make sure donald trump is comfortable about being in his
own skin, that he doesn't lose that authenticity. voters know if you're comfortable in your own skin. and let him be him in this sense. he wants to deliver a speech, if he wants to go to a rally, if he wants to connect with a crowd in a way that's very spontaneous, that's wonderful. that's how he got here. but at the same time, we have some really serious pressing problems in this country. he's going to give these policy speeches and i'm thrilled that we have gotten so much coverage this week just in the first two speeches. you will see more of those. next week is immigration week followed by education week. we are really excited about that. >> same question for you. how's kellyanne conway brand doing and more importantly, how does it affect trump? >> opposite of what i thought about bannon. i think kellyanne has been in politics for a long time. she has always bridged between the establishmentarans and the grass roots. she's the first woman to have the title campaign manager for a republican. trump trusts and respects her and she is -- she's been in other presidential campaigns. the knock against her i'm hearing from some people in the
establishment is she never won a presidential campaign. not very many people have. but she has great relationships and trump's trust. i think her brand is thriving right now and is helping trump a lot. >> her brand has been thriving throughout this campaign. obviously very very hot now. look, trump likes her and powerful alpha males like trump very often don't listen to women. he probably listens more than anybody else to his daughter. he likes people of the same temperament. it's a word that's taken him down a lot. if you look at the people rising to the top it's the street fighters, very smart, very tough, not namby-pamby people. i find it interesting we are spending so much time on who his people are 84 days from the campaign versus him. that really says something. >> it's a new team and he needs help because he is an amateur. i don't mean that in a negative way. never run for anything. >> that's pretty negative. >> donald trump -- i just mean he's never run for anything. donald trump's staffing shuffle has been viewed in some quarters
as a slight to the current campaign chairman paul manafort. one narrative is that he's been sidelined by trump in part for trying to control the candidate too much. the washington editor of national review depicted manafort as being ousted. the campaign is pushing back against any idea his role has been diminished. he is still dealing with a constant iv drip of news stori about past business ties to russia and pro-russian figures in ukraine. nbc news added a story to that drip today, reporting that in 2008, manafort's firm was involved in dealings with a ukrainian oligarch with organized crime connections. it was reported he did business with a russian billionaire who also allegedly had ties to organized crime. manafort says there's nothing improper about any of his work in these cases. he and the campaign are said to expect more of these stories to come. so beyond these stories about
his business dealings, how is the manafort brand doing and how is it impacting trump? >> the brand is not doing well. i agree that we won't see him very much the next few weeks. bringing my business ceo experience, once new people come in, but the guy who was still in charge is in charge, he's never in charge. we know that. this whole russian thing, now the bbc is reporting there were 40,000 russian troops assembling on crimea ukraine border, you just don't want that guy around. and he's been the guy that's trying to get trump to not be trump and we know nothing else emotionally and certainly politically that's not working. for all of the above i think he will be pretty much gone in a couple weeks. >> these stories are a problem because trump has been so close to putin rhetorically. otherwise these would get very little attention. i'm not sure, i don't think you're right. the clinton campaign has like ten senior people dealing with all the stuff you need to deal with between jared kushner and kellyanne conway will be on the
plane a lot, we're told. bannon, i don't know what he's going to do. there's a lot of work left for paul manafort to do. a lot to manage, a lot of the portfolio, big budget decisions, big political decisions, putting coalitions together. the work is being divided up now. every indication i have is he still has a big portfolio. >> you are comparing the clinton campaign, a professionally run campaign, really an organization, trump ran a mom and pop campaign. he is a people gut person. the two or three people he trusts most, everything else is almost irrelevant. what you are saying is logical. given the way this candidate has run his business and campaign, i don't see a place for manafort. >> we know bannon has any aptitude, there's a big place for him. when we come back, donald trump is about to roll out his first general election tv spots. we talk about where, when and what after these words. s you do. s you do. words we at panera live by. because clean food is food as it should be. with no artificial flavors, preservatives, sweeteners, and no colors from artificial sources.
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in unanswered tv ads dollars. that's all about to change. donald trump is rolling out his first general election spots. he has reserved, we learned, $3.4 million in ohio, north carolina, florida and pennsylvania starting tomorrow. running through the end of august. that's likely to become a bigger number, including we assume some ad buys on cable. for comparison, the clinton campaign will spend $17 million over that period of time. we don't know what the ads will look like as of last night. we heard trump and his team were looking at several different options still regarding the content of the ads. before we talk about what the spots might look like, let's peek at some of the spots currently airing for the presidential race starting with the democrats and their many anti-trump messages. >> when i saw donald trump attack another gold star mother, i felt such a sense of outrage. >> what donald trump said about our members of the military being captured is a disgrace.
>> you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. >> you have to ask yourself do i want a person of that temperament in control of the nuclear codes. and as of now, i have to say no. >> ties are made in china. >> how do we make the economy work for everyone? hillary clinton's plan starts here. >> now here are some of the clinton ads that are already on the airwaves. >> she's one of the wealthiest women in politics. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke but in debt. >> mysogenistic regimes, wall street insiders, corrupt dictators. they all have one thing in common. their check cleared. >> i never told anybody it's a lie. >> that's all i can say. >> she doesn't believe in your right to keep a gun at home for self-defense. >> i don't think there's any way to legislate against
outsourcing. i think that's just a dead end. >> and out of touch hypocrite, she will leave you defenseless. >> i don't know how it works digitally at all. >> so the pro-trump groups are running those kind of anti-clinton messages. what do you think trump will or should go with now when he goes on the air? >> i think we are going to see it go down so nasty. first, you will never see donald trump in an ad other than saying i approve this ad. his ads will frame hillary and i think they will bring bill into it a lot as not only untrustworthy but a crook and part of this establishment that is los angeles and new york and the media and politicians. his whole speech yesterday is going to personify but it's going to be nasty. even if they go extreme in the ads and even if they are outright lying in the ads and coming up with this breitbart type stuff, what it will do is shift the campaign discussion back to hillary.
i think you will see a very nasty kind of interpretation of what we have seen at a level we have never seen before. >> what about using him in spots even if it's with some negatives, some positives, what about showing him being optimistic at rallies? >> not going to work at this point. he gets his donald trump pro-donald trump with all the media coverage. that's the one place where he goes i got these big crowds, that's not the crowds but the media coverage. you will not see anything. they will now make this a referendum on hillary clinton because to date it's been on donald trump. whoever makes the referendum on the other wins this election. >> you don't think he will run bio spots. >> i don't think we will see donald trump hugging babies. >> what about telling the story of his business career? all negative? >> once again, as you saw, you are scaring the bejesus out of people with donald trump and the nuclear codes. you have to come out with a pretty ugly alternative to that to get people off the fear of that. >> if you look at the specifics, he will either do e-mails, whitewater -- >> all of the above. e-mails, whitewater, her health,
bill clinton's philandering. >> in ads? >> yeah. we can't take this in this country anymore. >> we shall see. up next, with all this focus on trump, we take a look at some of the overlooked hillary clinton stories from this week with two beat reporters. soon, she'll be binge-studying. now she writes mostly in emoji. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. today, the only spanish words he knows are burrito and enchilada. soon, he'll take notes en espanol. get back to great with the right gear. from the place with the experts. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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turbulence within team trump, hillary clinton flew a bit under the radar this week. here to talk to us about what we may have missed in clinton world is -- i cannot speak today. >> no. it's been apparent since the start. >> i have to stop drinking before the show. is msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt and jennifer epstein, who covers clinton for bloomberg politics. let me start with you. there should have been a lot more talk about clinton and it's interesting kind of her health conspiracy theory that trump people are putting out, she fired back hard. were you surprised they came back so hard at that? >> you know, the clinton campaign waited a couple of days. this has really been percolating last week. it was on sohn hannity's show, trump talked about it a few times. what the clinton campaign tried to do was to let the media ecosystem respond to it naturally, to let brian stelter weigh in against sean hannity, to let fact checkers do their debunking. then finally, they kind of
swooped in, they released a statement from communications director jen palmieri, from scl secretary clinton's doctor. compared to how president obama handled the birth certificate issue. obviously that was hanging over ace head a long time. i don't think these health issues go away. katrina pearson brought them up again today. >> she always makes a lot of sense. another thing that could have been big news today as far as the fbi interview notes going up to the hill, obviously, we are surprised, are you surprised there hasn't been more on that? >> yeah. i think we assume when something gets to the hill and to hill republicans it will leak pretty quickly. one thing chuck grassley noted in a statement last night was that there is a little bit of classified information mixed in with mostly non-classified information which means a very
limited number of people on the congressional staff can actually go through and read those notes. that is slowing down the whole process. i think the clinton campaign's okay with that because they don't want the selective leaks that end up making the story look worse than they think the entirety of the notes will make it look. >> talk about those two things, the health care response and the fbi notes on the hill. >> well, one thing about the health care response i think is interesting is they clearly decided they needed to play defense here which they haven't on a lot of the things that have come up before, things trump has raised on the stump. he's talked about bill clinton sex scandals, the '90s. they said we will be totally hands off about this. they clearly made the calculation that that's not how to handle this. i'm interested in learning more about why that is, why this one seems like potentially a bigger threat. on the e-mails, the one thing i will say is this is really difficult to understand, i think, if you are the average
voter. you are down in these weeds with jason chaffetz trying to figure out the difference between an e-mail header that says classified, the little c, it seems to me that the goal here is to essentially continue to motivate republican base voters who are ready to believe republicans who say this should be a problem for her. >> so state department acknowledged today what was obvious which was there was linkage between the release of the americans held in iran and this $400 million. >> gee, surprising. >> there's more -- >> i for one am shocked. >> more stories about russia and syria. where do you see this overlook there on her foreign policy record and credentials? >> one thing that trump has been handing to hillary clinton here is the opportunity to talk constantly about him and never actually face questions about herself. she's been able essentially to skate. she hasn't answered the latest iteration of this question.
the "wall street journal" had raised this earlier. she was asked some about it. she for the most part dismissed it but has been very supportive of this deal and hasn't been asked hey, was this a good idea, does this amount to ransom. she hasn't recently been asked whether this is a policy the united states should be revisiting entirely. >> there hasn't really been an opportunity to ask her that question. >> it's pretty clear by trump's new team they are obviously doubling down, they will go more negative than ever, more nasty than ever. i have a theory that where traditionally, that works, it might backfire this time. i think the tone of the country even though 68% say it's going the wrong direction, there is -- you see what happened in both conventions. people responded to the more positive. i think it could backfire. thoughts? >> my sense is there was a willingness when donald trump first won the nomination, there were a lot of people who were willing to step back and say oh, this is interesting, i never maybe thought he was a plausible president. but suddenly he's won the nomination, maybe i should take
a look. i think through the conventions you started to see that willingness dissipate a little bit. i wonder if the sense of the electorate isn't going to move that way that this is just more playing politics as usual and we are over it in general. now of course, if it continues to drive her numbers down and mark, you talked about this, too, if they are able to help drive the president's numbers down, i think that could hurt. i think some of it is how the clinton campaign responded. what's your sense on the health question in particular? do you have a sense of why they felt like that was something that was more of a threat? >> i think they just felt it was something where they could kind of point out just kind of how ridiculous in their view what trump and what his allies have been saying is. they think that it's crazy to say that she is in bad health. >> but compare it to the birther thing, they were looking at the time in the obama white house at public polls showing that a very high percentage of americans questioned whether the president was born in the united states. this is a pretty research oriented campaign. i have not asked them but i bet
they had some indication -- >> i will say anecdotally i have had a lot of friends who don't really pay attention to politics asking me in the last couple weeks what's the deal with her health. i have had to say -- >> even if only two people say it -- this other story breaking today that a bunch of clinton aides were supposed to take ethics training at the state department and didn't. is that a thing? >> i think that's a question. this is obviously one of these i think incremental stories that could potentially blow up into something bigger. it could also fade. but it's the kind of headline that absent the noise of what's been going on with the trump campaign, there's a lot -- >> that's really what's happening. there is so much noise from the trump campaign that it's overshadowing, it's drowning out all these kind of questionable clinton things. >> that's why i think the advertising will go really nasty. i can't read or speak today. can you read and take us out,
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time to talk a little ye olde strategery. we are joined by the adviser to the new york republican party and michael feldman, democratic strategist, former senior adviser and traveling chief of staff to vice president al gore. just housekeeping, you are for hillary clinton. who are you for? >> the republican party. >> voting for donald trump? >> absolutely. >> he's from new york, you know that. >> absolutely. definitely. >> we like to do a little
strategy swap here. trump campaign, kellyanne conway acknowledged today is behind. you guys got some catching up to do. if you were giving advice to donald trump what would you tell him? what are the building blocks of a comeback? >> well, message discipline. it's been said often but can't be said enough. if mr. trump could focus on a couple of key messages and not do the clinton campaign's job for them -- >> which two messages? >> first of all, this is not a specific message but a broader strategy, he needs to restore his credibility as an acceptable alternative in a change election year. >> how do you do that? >> it's complicated. he's worked hard to, and i don't think intentionally, but he's disqualified himself among strands of the general electorate. he needs to start winding that back. i thought the roundtable he did the other day, the optics of the roundtable on national security made sense. giving policy speeches and sticking to a message on teleprompter or not, it's important that he show that he
can be a leader and be a president because if he doesn't get that back, all the negative attacks, all the tough ads, he doesn't have enough of the electorate to come back and win. >> what should joel be doing for hillary clinton right now? >> i say ditto. she's been dodging the press for little bit under a year now so that would actually feed into the growing sentiment that she's not trustworthy, that she's hiding something. >> if she were your client and she said i hate press conferences, i'm up ten points, you would say go do some press conferences? >> at least one or two. right? >> they argue she came out and answered -- >> you're in this business. you know every day, we are down to day 84, every day that is about trump on the news, she wins. >> she has tohedge. >> hedge or not, it's the right strategy. if i was managing the campaign i would keep her under wraps as
much as i possibly can, make every day about trump. >> you know how things can change very quickly. if she doesn't actually do something that's sort of like good will, put some good will in escrow, if you will, by at least doing one press conference before the debates and generally see how the debates go. >> maybe on an august friday. >> there you go. bury it. >> there are some people around her who make the case to her just what you're saying, get it done. >> late on a friday or saturday afternoon. >> you're saying a presser taking questions? >> yeah. >> is donald trump doing that? >> every 15 minutes. >> i think it's true, i would spend an extra hour a day on debate prep. it's true for both strategies. the debates are going to be the last real impact moment with a national audience, a chance to change the dynamic of the race. if i'm secretary clinton, i'm in there making sure i'm ready for any haymaker that will come her way. if i'm mr. trump, i'm really studying up to try to at least --
>> let me just reference this brilliant man's book. we all know that donald trump, there's so many questions you can ask him, he's just not going to have the answer. i'm not talking about tell me the year croatia was liberated. i'm talking basic 101, the difference between a sunni and shiite. how do you prepare for that? >> he's not going to be able to compete with her on foreign policy. not too many people can keep up with secretary clinton on the details of public policy but he has to be able to deliver a message. i would pick two or three key messages and make sure whatever the question is i'm delivering that message. >> 90-minute debate gets granular at some point. >> he did a great job through all the republican debates pulling everybody to what he wanted to focus on. if he needs to do the same thing -- >> harder one-on-one. >> harder one-on-one. >> actually, we might have three people in the race. >> maybe. you're right.
>> you never know. >> the two vice presidential candidates are in i think as good shape as any i have seen in a sense. both clinton and trump are really happy with their picks. they worked out as well or better than they thought. both guys are out there doing lots of events, not really shackled in any way. do you see them as canceling each other out, is one of them helping the top of the ticket more at this point? >> no. they are serving different roles. first of all, i actually think both of them made good picks. >> yes. >> for different reasons. both of them have one eye on potentially the future and the next cycle. so the calculation for both of them is different. i would say for senator kaine in particular, his ability to support her, to deliver a message that's complementary to hers has been crucially important. and for governor pence, it's been reassurance to some of the audiences that want to make sure there's going to be an adult in charge or somebody around who
can help guide the ship of state if they get elected. very different things. >> that's a strong conservative. i think that speaks to the base of the republican party and those that are far, far right. especially those that are in the ben carson, the ted cruz camp, to make sure that you know what, we have a conservative that's in the white house. those that still question whether trump has -- is more to the middle or to the right. >> or to the alt right. >> i think as we move, continue to move along in the election process, trump is proving himself to have more right-leang views. >> this is the first time an election has two candidates coming into it have 100% brand awareness. neither of these guys can make a difference, is that fair to say? >> i think the way these guys have talked about it is right. they are both helping in big ways, as big as you can at the bottom of the ticket. they are getting great local coverage which is important because he can only be in one
state at a time. are your candidates who are on the ballot in new york this year worried about the prospect of a blowout at the top of the ticket? is that something people are talking about? >> i think when you look at what happened in the primary, we had a lot of people come out. lot of people are excited. in fact, trump won every county except for one. >> this one. >> his own, right? but so the energy is very high. we don't really expect to winch in new york city given the numbers. i think 7:1 ratio. when you look at new york state, it's more 2.5 or 3 to 1. we're in good position. >> strong candidate for mayor of new york next year? >> absolutely. and governor. >> who's it going to be? >> in due time. one race at a time. >> okay. >> karl rove today raised the prospect of a blowout for hillary clinton. are you hearing democrats more saying hey, don't take anything for granted, races are going to be close, or more people thinking about the prospect of long coattails and maybe a
democratic road? >> i hear both. >> nouyou know a lot of people. >> i think people are concerned about turnout. they want to make sure people stay focused until the end of the race. people don't become complacent because that will matter. you hear talk of the expanding map. when you hear states like arizona, georgia, missouri, we haven't seen that in a long time. we haven't seen that in a very long time. and so i do think people are looking at the map and looking at the numbers in those states in a different way, just given the way the race is going. >> thank you, gentlemen, both. when we come back we head to the polls. break down the latest in polling. having acne... was always on my mind. so i asked a dermatologist about aczone dapsone gel 7.5%. i apply it once a day, any time. aczone gel 7.5% is fda approved
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polls, polls and more polls. lot of polls out there and polls lead to questions. when we have questions about polls we go to des moines, iowa or do the next best thing. we bring des moines, iowa here. joining us in studio, ann seltzer, who will answer two big questions that keep coming up as we look at our national poll but others as well. first thing i get asked about all the time and i don't have great answers but you do, some polls look at likely voters, some look at registered voters, some pollsters ask both within a given poll. why not pick one and go with it?
>> well, to be perfectly honest, pollsters have two different philosophies about how you decide what the electorate is going to look like. pollsters say i'll decide and look -- >> this many democrats, this many african-americans, this many men, this many women. >> exactly. this many young people. so they don't want to do that until it's close to the election which tends to be after labor day. before that, so they have something to look at, they look at registered voters so they can look at time one, time two, time three, time four and have a trend line that makes sense. >> keep the universe to registered voters for consistency through labor day. >> then you have like the shift change for tax season in new york in august, where they're switching to likely voters. then there are pollsters like i am who say let the voters tell me who's a likely voter. how can i predict this election in particular, really any election, because there are so many ways now that the electorate changes from cycle to
cycle to cycle. >> obama brings in more african-americans or young people. >> they're better at turnout than the poll might predict. >> has anybody come out of the hole trump's in when you layer in both the national and battleground? overall snapshot, has anybody come back? >> you know, we took a look from the beginning of polling to see what had been happening in election after election. you have some elections like eisenhower, he led from the beginning and led at the end but there have been several that offered up surprising and twists and turns and changes of leads so people have mostly been talking about d eshdukakis bein behind. of course, george bush went on to beat him handily. if you look back in time, there was a time that carter was leading ford by a lot more, before that ford had been leading carter. that turned into a very close race. so ford was able to make up where he was in august b
election time. that's 16 percentage points. back to 1968, hubert humphrey had only 29 points and that was the closest race up until that point in time. so looking back in history, you can see anything can happen. you look at this race in particular and with every day there being a new bit of news breaking that can change the poll, anything can happen. >> safe to say that while it is possible that trump could come back, leaving aside the conduct of his campaign, looking at leads in the past, he can certainly narrow this contest. >> he certainly could. >> coming all the way back may be a taller order than has typically been done. >> people have come back from more points than he's trailing. to say that he's dug a hole that he can't get out of i think is overstating the case. >> explaining it all to us rather than going to the iowa state fair. your choice. thank you. we'll be right back. energy is a complex challenge.
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throughout this presidential campaign supporters and critics alike have commented a lot about donald trump's word choices. certainly trump speaks in a very distinctive sort of language, idioms or tropes or filler phrases. for a long time we have been listening to what trump says in public and tonight we present what we believe is the definitive catalog of the trump alphabet naturally in alphabetical order. >> together we accomplish what nobody thought was absolutely possible. >> proven to be absolutely a total lie. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. >> believe me i'll make you very
proud of those justices. >> we can get them to pay for it, believe me. >> i am the least racist person you have ever met, believe me. >> i never attacked him on his look and believe me, there's plenty of subject matter there. >> they are taking it over big league. >> big league. >> big league. >> hillary wants to expand regulations. >> big and big league. >> you know what that is, right? >> she's married to anthony weiner. you know, the little bing bing bing. >> little mouth on him. bing bing bing. bing bing bing. >> by the way, we will build a wall. >> by the way -- >> by the way -- >> by the way. >> he's worked in north carolina, by the way. >> by the way. >> by the way. >> did he choke? did this guy choke? he choked. >> i have watched people choke over the years. and once a choker, always a choker. >> he's a choke artist. he choked. >> he choked. it was a total choke. >> i'm not a choker.
>> we have crooked hillary. >> crooked hillary. >> crooked hillary clinton. >> crooked may be more accurate. >> it's a crooked system. it's 100% crooked. >> nobody would be tougher on isis than donald trump. >> donald trump. >> everybody's going to vote for donald trump. >> donald trump. donald trump. >> donald trump. >> donald trump. >> donald trump. >> donald trump. donald trump. >> donald trump. donald trump. donald trump. >> donald trump. >> they obviously got to the pope and tell him what a bad guy donald trump is. he doesn't know me. >> doesn't know me. never met me. doesn't know what i'm all about. >> she doesn't know me. she knows nothing about me. >> they are really trying to stop me. everybody knows it. >> everybody knows about me. >> the "new york times" i call it the failing "new york times." >> failed. failed. >> failed horribly. >> they're friends of mine. >> hillary's a great friend of mine. her husband is a great friend of mine. >> tom brady's a great friend of mine. >> friend of mine. >> some are friends of mine. >> get him out of here. get him out. get him out of here. >> get him out of here. get him out.
>> get him out of here. get him out. >> get them out of here. go ahead. get them out. >> you can get the baby out of here. >> we don't know where they come from really. this could be the all time great trojan horse. >> this could be the great trojan horse. nch the great trojan horse. >> i like people who weren't captured, hate to tell you. >> hate to tell you. >> have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. >> hater. >> i made a lot of money dealing against china. i made a lot of money dealing against other countries. i've made a lot of money. i've made a lot of money doing everything i di i made a lot of money with the apprentice, with real estate. i made a lot of money everything i did. >> total and complete joke. >> hillary clinton is a joke. >> it's a total joke. >> i think the guy's a total incompetent jerk. >> a jerk. >> he looks like a jerk. >> nobody knows currency manipulation better than china. >> nobody knows -- >> nobody knows -- >> nobody even knows where the
people are. nobody knows what they're doing with the money. >> he choked like a dog. >> he choked like a dog. >> marco's sweating like a dog. >> they were fired like dogs. >> they hate little marco rubio so much. >> this little guy has lied so much. >> little marco. little marco. >> look, look, look. >> the group of losers. >> losers. >> they're losers. just losers. >> millions of votes ahead. millions. millions. >> millions. >> these other companies, they go out and spend millions of dollars looking for oil. >> millions and millions of jobs. >> i have no relationship with putin. i don't think i have ever met him. i never met him. >> i never met him. >> i never met him. >> honestly, i don't know david duke. i don't believe i have ever met him. >> this guy ricketts or something. i never met him. >> he was sweating so badly. i have never seen anything like it. >> we have never seen anything like it. >> never seen anything like it. what he did with ben carson was terrible. i have never seen anything like that. >> i have never seen anything like that before. >> i have never seen anything like it. >> i will win their vote like
you have never seen before. >> like you have never seen before. >> like you have never seen before. nch . >> oh, boy. >> it always will be, okay? >> okay. okay. that's enough. >> lot of people are saying that. lot of people are saying bad things are happening out there. >> smart people would say that's a great thing. >> i promise you i will pay for the legal fees. >> i can promise you -- >> he's definitely over there. there's no question about it. >> he certainly lives above his means. there's no question about that. >> there's no question about it. >> there's no question about it. >> we'll never be able to fix a rigged system by counting on the same people who have rigged it in the first place. >> the system, folks, is rigged. >> it's rigged by big donors. it's rigged by big businesses. it's rigged. >> the whole system is rigged. >> the economy is rigged. the banking system is rigged. there's a lot of things that are rigged. we have a rigged system, folks. >> he knows we're being ripped off and i know we're being ripped off. we're being ripped off big league. >> ripped off. >> ripped off. >> there's something going on
with him that we don't know about. >> there's something going on that we all don't know about. >> there's something going on we don't know about. >> we are led by very very stupid people. >> somebody said you shouldn't say stupid. but it's true. they're stupid. >> stupid. >> stupidity. >> stupidity. >> i'll tell you something, if i get the nomination i will win the latino vote. >> let me tell you something. >> that's a terrible gesture. >> terrible. terrible. that's terrible. >> terrible. >> terrible, terrible people. >> terrible. so terrible. >> i thought he was terrific. i think he's a terrific person. >> terrific person. >> terrific. >> what you don't talk about is the thousands of people that i do hire. >> thousands, i don't know how many but many thousands. >> thousands of thousands. tens of thousands. >> we are going to win so much. you are going to get tired of winning. >> you may get tired of winning. >> you will get sick and tired of winning. >> they will get tired of winning. >> libya's a total mess. iraq is a total mess. total mess. guy's a total mess. i have a great company with tremendously talented people.
tremendous cash flow. tremendous net worth. tremendous understanding of this country. our message is unbelievable. unbelievable. unbelievable. unbelievable. unbelievable. i don't believe this. this is unbelievable. nobody believes it. >> the press is so dishonest and so unfair. i thought they were very unfair. unfair. unfairly. i was very viciously attacked. viciously. viciously. i said wow, i can't believe it. wow. wow. i said wow. i always said wow. wow. i call it extreme, extreme vetting. >> he referred to my hands if they're small, something else must be small. i guarantee you, there's no problem. i guarantee it. take a look at the salaries being paid. take a look at what's going on at the colleges. you just take a look at what's going on. new hampshire has a huge heroin problem. i'm a huge second amendment person. i'm a huge believer in clean air. i'm not a huge believer in the global warming phenomenon.
lindsey graham who's got zero. how do you get zero? 0%. how about zeros? i don't know how you can get zero. bush. >> the two matts put that masterpiece together. what do you think of the way trump talks? >> that's the man. i think that actually helps him. he's a queens guy. i'm a queens guy. that's the way we talk. you're a chokeartist. that takes him off the billionaire pedestal and puts him connecting to the man on the street so we can laugh at it but it's very effective. >> that took a long time, i hate to tell you. i think we got them all in. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ isaac hou has mastered gravity defying moves to amaze his audience. great show. here you go. now he's added a new routine.
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thanks for watching. we'll be back tomorrow. sayonara. coming up, "hardball with chris matthews." the charge of the trump brigade. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. donald trump's cavalry is taking to the field against hillary clinton. it's boots and saddles with the bugle calling charge. the only question is which direction. will trump head back to his winning message of standing up for the country, the nationalist and populist excitement that won him all the primaries? can he focus his attention on hillary clinton? can somebody keep trump, trump? the phenomenal figure who did defeat every rival to win the republican nomination? tonight, we have as our lead