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that does it for us tonight we'll see you again tomorrow. it's time for the last word. >> thank you laughing maddow. >> wait, i was trying to say. >> i was trying to say laughing maddow that's what i was trying to say. >> thank you very much. >> well, we have a lot of breaking news. we have breaking news about the clinton foundation. we another breaking news story about what hillary clinton about colin powell in her interview. and there's breaking news about the trump campaign chairman and could be ill lee work that he did in the united states on behalf of the vladimir putin supporting. but first this is also breaking news, donald trump admits that he has regrets. >> what do you have to lose by trying something new.
>> he wants to surround himself for his biggest fan boys. >> former he's a loud mouth. >> from the farthest reaches of the right wing media where everything donald trump says is fantastic. >> i feel like super model accept like times ten. >> we'll make sure that donald trump is comfortable being in his own skin. >> you'll see more conspiracy series. >> i'm watching the conservative movement. >> i am glad that i make the powerful a little uncomfortable now and again, including some of the powerful people, frankly, in my own party.
>> let trump be trump. >> and believe it or not, i regret it. >> this is the last word on campaign 2016. >> for 430 days donald trump has been campaigning for president and every one of those days he has had something to apologize for, but he never has apologized. then came today, with only 81 days left in the election donald trump now under the influence of his new campaign managers, finally cracked. >> sometimes in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that. [ applause ]
and believe it or not, i regret it. [ trump trump trump trump ] and i do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. too much is at stake for us to be consumed with these issues. but one thing i can promise you this, i will always tell you the truth. >> regret. he couldn't bring himself to apologize. donald trump is too small a person to ever find a way of saying the word "sorry," but he took the baby step today of saying that he had regrets. he has regrets for some of the things he said, but he doesn't have the courage to say what
those things are and then in the same breath he told his audience that he will always tell them the truth, which, of course, is his biggest lie. it is the unbrel lalie that covers the entire campaign. no presidential candidate in history has lied with the pathological frequency of donald trump. in his speech tonight, he demanded that hillary clinton apologize for the decision she made, policy decisions and the decision the way she ran her e-mail. but donald trump still has not yet apologized for the lies he started telling five years ago about president obama's birth. donald trump has never apologized for lying about seeing thousands of people celebrating on 9/11 in new jersey. he's the author of easily proven lies in any politician in history, and just for good measure right after his audience tonight that he will always tell them the truth, he immediately
threw a lie in their faces and they fell for it. >> i am spending millions and millions and millions of dollars on my own campaign. i'm funding my campaign. [ applause ] >> my only interest is the american people. >> i'm funding my campaign, than as an out right lie. his audience should know that by now. he's desperately trying to raise money and doing a terrible job of it. his new campaign management was able to get him to admit regrets, especially now that he's losing in every poll, they have no intention of getting donald trump to stop lying while he was speaking and lying tonight, the associated press in
a breaking news report said e-mails obtained by the associated press show donald trump's campaign chairman, paul manafort "directly orchestrated a covert washington lobbying operation on behalf of ukraine's ruling political party attempting to sway american public opinion in favor of the country's prorussian government. paul manafort and his deputy never disclosed their work as foreign agents between 2012-to 14 as required under federal law." >> and, jeff, paul manafort and his associate both now working for the trump campaign and the -- what you have found are actual e-mails showing what they were doing. what more can you tell us about that? >> so this is -- earlier this
week paul manafort issued a statement saying that they had never, never, never done anything involving, basically, lobbying on behalf of the russian government or the ukrainian government. and they swore this up and down, the lobbyist who were working that aligned the political lobbying operation, said the same thing and the e-mails we have, which are between or from, i should say, rick gates who is from manafort's deputy, from his firm, to the nonprofit that's supposedly independent, clearly show that rick gates and the manafort firm are controlling this effort and are basically telling, sort of the lobbyist in d.c. what to do, who to contact. they're setting up meetings for ukrainian ministers and they're attempting to also get ukrainian viewpoints, i should say, the particular viewpoints, ukrainian's party of region in
front of american audience through tv interviews and newspaper interviews. >> jeff. paul manafort and rick gates have never denied working in ukraine, that's public record, that they worked in ukraine for the president of ukraine, but what they have been denying is that they were doing any work back in the united states and there are things that -- lines that you can easily cross in work in the united states that require you to register as, basically, a foreign agent, that's not what they have not done and that could be the legal violation here. >> exactly. so there are -- the foreign agent, registration act is very clear. this was put in place 1938, basically, to try to detect and track propaganda by the germans and during world war ii. this law is very clear that anyone who is acting on behaef of the foreign government needs to dethe operations and detail it very clearly.
they can do whatever they like as consultants thashs's okay and that's their business, but as soon as they bring that back overseas or that back home, at that point they need to disclose this and be transparent about their operations. what we found they weren't transparent to the government in disclosing, basically, that they were operating a lobbying business out here. >> and this is precisely the kind of thing that donald trump said that if he's president, he would not allow anyone who served in his administration to do anything like this for five years after serving in the administration, he said nothing about how much they could do right up until the day before serving. >> there's a bit of ironny here and that speech tonight i believe was about registered lobbyist, the problem here is that paul manafort's firm is doing unregistering lobbying. the same thing, just without actually declaring itself according to the u.s. government's law. yeah, this is -- yeah, these are
the people who are seen here in this campaign and been advising him for months and months. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight with this breaking news. thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> we're joined now by terrence clays. also with his strategist, clarence page, it happened. you've been waiting 4 hyundais for it. he povted to admitting a regret without ever telling us exactly what he regrets. >> yeah, i call that a half pivot, actually, lawrence. and the reason why it reminded me of frank sanatra song "i had a few, but i did it my way" that was the next line i was waiting from donald trump. the difference between regrekt and sorry. we can talk the rest of the night about that. the fact is you are right. this is a change of direction.
notice the last couple of days he's been sedate compared to the flamboyant trump until now. i think he's trying hard to tone it down. i'm waiting to see how long this is going to last. the speech he gave today lack credibility. >> clearly the regret piece was the thing that they were going to be able to prove, look, the new bosses of the trump campaign look what they've done. >> it's the 87th pivot this year. every time this happens you know it's a clock running. it's when does he get his phone back and start tweeting again. when does he start verbal spray out all of the world, again, by twitter or whatever inappropriate remarks he chooses to make that day. this is a guy who cannot be tamed or mastered or controlled by people. and it's amazing that the american media falls for this there's a whole bunch of gushing stories tonight of people who should know better, even the speech didn't contain, as you
noted, any kind of apology or regret. he's unable to process. i'm sorry if offended you. that's putting it on the person that's listening to him. it's astounding and typical trump and it's nothing we shouldn't expect at this point and, look, this is probably -- we've probably got 20 or 30 pivots to go in the course of the election, wait until he gets his phone back tonight. it's always on the clock. >> it seems the first question for the next trump interviewer. he's not doing business with anyone else, the first question obviously is to on what do you regret. >> i'm sure megan klly are wondering as well, but frankly shows something of a token effort towards showing that he recognizes some mistakes look at the train of mistakes he's made
so far. he has said, for example, when asked why are you still campaigning to the base, why don't you cross over and go for the swing voters and the dependents out there, he said i really talking to these rallies and having people cheer my name, et cetera. he likes that style of campaigning. but it's not practical so far as winning some votes in those battleground states. >> this is the head of the nypd said today in reaction to donald trump's trump talking about law and order. >> on the subject matter, what are the ideas. we're all about reducing fear. that will work, not exploiting fear and platitude, i'm not
familiar enough with what is behind the statement what is he proposing, what's his experience, what are his ideas. >> i just don't know, our pile has yet to respond to bill on this. >> well, look, donald trump's speech, as we noted the other night, it was eight minutes of law and order it was laundried recycled stuff. largely, the speech has been forgotten already, the next -- the next few hours he hired steve, a man who has promoted antisintism, promoted antiracism. now there's a guy who is behind this. >> and who has never worked in a campaign.
i love people who have never worked in campaign, oh, i can do that. >> good luck pal. >> that's the perfect queue for the next segment. >> coming up, we have breaking news about the clinton foundation, also breaking news about what hillary clinton said about colin powell said in her interview with the fbi. and how is donald trump's newly campaign team working. you just heard what rick had to say about the new ceo of the clinton -- of the trump campaign. we'll have more coming up.
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clinton's behavior and mannerisms. >> tonight chris matthews asked the new trump campaign manager about what katrina pearson just said. >> i'm not a doctor, you're not a doctor, your candidate is not a doctor, but your people are putting out the word there's -- have you seen this with michael -- you've seen how politics, you put out the word there's something wropg with the guy or woman and the people start buzzing about it. is this a tactic that you appreciate and like? >> i don't like taking her on on the record. >> so kelly who is katrina pearson's new boss doesn't like what was said, if she really is, she never has to, again, listen to katrina pearson saying something she doesn't like. she can fire katrina pearson right now.
fire her for lying every time she has ever appeared on television talking about the trump campaign. con way isn't the only new addition to the trump campaign. mysterious figure who has the title of ceo, might be very happy with what katrina pearson said today since he has a long record of handling and news and on his radio show, an article in the vanity fair, about these comments from the bright mart web site that he runs, the anonymous defiant, i celebrated with some alcohol when zimmerman was found not guilty and i celebrate every time one of these mongoloids are shot by cops" another racist comment said "they know that white people are superior they wine about it all the time and want
to kill us because of it. they know they'll never be equal to us, so they destroy everything we create." joining us now the author of the article. ken, thank you very much for joining us. i really appreciate it. i'm struck by this moment today with katrina pearson who is saying just craziness about hillary clinton. con way says to matthews she doesn't like that. do you think steve bannon likes that? >> so, i think steve bannon is, you know, he's become a professional, that's why he's a good companion to trump. and i think he will spend his time helping -- getting trump to talk about the things that made him successful during the primaries, at least with one class of voters.
and, you know, what trump does is what bannon does and they're very good at that. it's been proved in trump's success so far and i expect we'll see it for the next three months. >> the first part of what katrina pearson said is stuff that donald trump says saying that hillary clinton doesn't have the strength and the stamina to do the job, there's absolutely no evidence of that, that's donald trump making stuff up. that is very much in the tradition of steve bannons bright web site. >> so let's -- bright bart and dan have been very successful over the last four years, sort of invented trump before trump. they created the al bright movement and they did it largely through creating tales. tales about the muslim conspiracy, the tales about the wild effects of black lives
matter. they've learned what really gets their audience up and going and will continue to see more of it. they're very good at that. >> let's listen to something that donald trump said today. >> i am glad that i make the powerful, and i mean very powerful, a little comfortable now and again, including some of the powerful people, frankly, in my own party. because it means that i'm fighting for real change, real change. our campaign is about representing the great majority of americans. republicans, democrats, independents, conservatives and liberals who read the newspaper or turn on the television and
don't hear anyone, anyone speaking for them. >> there's speculation, now, that bannon and trump after they lose on election day will ban together to create some kind of new media operation and when you hear that line about donald trump saying people turn on the television and don't hear anyone speaking for them, even though he gets a 100% sympathetic audience every time he goes on fox, people are looking at statements like that for the seeds of the possibility of this trump bannon partnership and meeting. >> so, let's -- what trump said there is sort of classic. it's the politics. it's the washington establishment, american corporations, the party of d -- who have forsaken the american worker in the interest of globalism and their own interest. you know, i've seen the theory
that afterwards trump and bannon will gang up. i think trump is a useful tool for bannon right now. bannon is very successful. bright bart is perhaps -- there are some statistics that show some of the political site and social media. it's 18 million users, trump is helpful in driving awareness of bright bart, it's gone its own velocity going right now. i don't know that they need to band more than they have. >> ken stern thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> up next, colin powell advised hillary clinton to use private e-mail as secretary of state. booking.com property would suffice for jordan's bachelor party. i don't need a sword, i'm a firemaid. ding dong! i'm going to give this place a killer review. i don't know, i just always thought maybe
"new york times" is reporting tonight that hillary clinton told the fbi that former secretary of state colin powell had advised her to use a personal e-mail account. the times reports that the fbi notes of their sbe view with secretary clinton which were handed over to congress on tuesday revealed that she told the fbi about former secretary of state powell's notes. tales of a dinner party hosted by madelyn albright. colin powell was there, along
with henry kissinger. in his book he told her to use her own e-mail as he had done except for classified communications she had sent received via state department computer. the book says, this only confirmed the decision that secretary clinton had made months earlier to use personal e-mail. until this story broke tonight, the big clinton news of the day came earlier this evening when the clinton foundation announced it would no longer except foreign or corporate contributions if hillary clinton is elected president. joining us now by phone is "new york times" national political reporter amy who broke the story tonight about the fbi's interview with secretary
clinton. amy, thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news, i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> when the word came that congress was getting the fbi notes this week the clock started clicking on when the first week would come. i'm not going to ask you where it came from. but this is a of what ice in the fbi notes. but what more do we know about what hillary clinton said about her e-mail. >> well, i think we're going to be learning that, and obviously the clinton campaign is concerned about congressional campaigns or strategically leaking things that could damage her candidacy and has pushed to release everything. we'll see if that happens until then, you're right, it could be a drip drip of those of us hearing about different parts of the three-and-a-half conversation that happened over july fourth weekend. >> there are also democratic members who might have an incentive to drip some drips of
it and this one seems to be ben ishl. it seems to be there is colin powell saying you should do it this way. >> yes. it's interesting, you know, hillary clinton have said from the get go that previous secretary of state have done this. they haven't made the link he told her to do it and i think that was something he had mixed emotions about it and passing blames on a popular, former diplomat. we had known other developments scandal that. >> there's some huge differences between colin powell's time and secretary clinton's powell's there, the systems had changed. when colin powell was there, their computers weren't connected to the internet, apparently you couldn't send e-mail outside of the state
department, that wasn't the case by the time hillary clinton got there and she was operating under a new rule imposed by the obama administration that everyone was suppose to use the government e-mails. >> for one, i think technology and e-mail had evolved dramatically, the state department was behind when colin powell came. she didn't have a private e-mail, she had a private server set up by outside contractors in her house which has drawn intense scrutiny that was a major difference. you mention the new rules of the state department inspector general report that came out in the spring pointed out by the time secretary of clinton set up her personal server, "significant security risks were posed by the practice" it is quite different from colin powell's practice. >> thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news, really appreciate it. >> we're joined now for congress
for the washington post. i want to go to the oh big story, the clinton foundation announcing it would no longer take foreign or corporate contributions that comes as the same week that the boston globe has endorsed hillary clinton, will surely endorse her again in the general election, i don't think they've endorsed a republican in my lifetime. but friend of the clinton campaign, boston globe editorial board said the clinton foundation should be shutdown, this form of being able to contribute to the family of an officer holder should be stopped. >> i think that, too. i have my own notion of this. i think what they should do is reconstitute it as i would call the eisenhower/kennedy foundation who great presidents
of their youth, bring in people like david and suzanne eisenhower and essentially let the work of the foundation go on, the clinton says this foundation does a lot of work, there's evidence that it does. it does do good work around the world. to have any kind of entity like this while clinton is president, just invites more and more stories as john john would say, you can know what servitude of people could be looking for foundation stories throughout the clinton presidency. what they did today is a good step forward, i hope, it's an indication that they understand that over the long-run this just poses a problem for them that they don't need. >> well, and if the idea is we should not take foreign contributions or corporate contributions if hillary clinton is president, why would it have
been a good idea when she was secretary of state. >> well, i think there was a statement issued to that effect, you know, i think that you have a situation here that is unprecedented. you have a former president of the united states and presidents do have these foundations. they do do a lot of good in the world, but you have not had a situation where a member of the family, in this case, the wife of the former president was both secretary of state and running for president. and i understand that they might say, we're being held to a different standard than others and there's some fairness to that, but it doesn't matter, you will be held to that standard, whether you like it -- whether you like it or not because you're in a situation that we've never had to live with before and so i think they'll have the figure out more steps to take about this. >> and yeah, ej we've been around long enough the standards
always change, they evolve. there was a time wn you can get away with any kind of extramarital behavior you -- the standards change all the time. i can understand how they would have innocently found themselves in this situation, as you say, totally unprecedented, everything about it is unprecedented. e.j. thank you very much. >> good to join you, thanks. >> up next, john mccain is the saddest senator on the campaign trail now where his biggest problem is donald trump. if you're lucky you live in one of the five big cities where an identical statute of donald trump went up today. it is donald trump as you have never seen him before and never wanted to see him, hey, that's what it does. it shows you things you've never seen before. this is art with a message.
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later this morning a group of veterans is going to deliver a hundred thousand signatures asking you to announce mr. trump, what's your reaction to that? >> i'm asking them to renounce health care who lied to the families -- relatives of the families who were killed in benghazi. >> i've already answered that question. i've already answered the question before. >> senator. [ inaudible question ] criticize hg donald trump saying he's unqualified for office saying that hillary clinton is much better qualified, how do you respond to that. >> i respond to the obvious fact
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the latest georgia poll shows the latest georgia poll shows donald trump 45%, 41% hillary clinton. with 81 days from the presidential campaign war room joining us tonight is howard dean, former chairman of gnc. howard dean, the minority vote and these states can't be decisive in this way unless it's close enough and those polls
show that it's close enough. >> it is close enough. and donald trump has zero chance of having any significant in road into the minority vote. he has done himself so much damage. you remember, these communities have been taken advantage of by majority for a very, very, very long time. you don't switch on a dime and convince him with a speech like this, oh, yeah, now you're on their side after dog whistling for an entire year. >> whenever you hear when you hear an older white man -- >> this was some speech written for who knows who, the new campaign manager doesn't believe any of this given his record, i don't know where this is coming from. it's another confusing day on the donald trump reality show. >> is there a particular kind of approach that the clintons are
going to have to bring that they don't have a lot of experience driving votes. it's very common for the democrat to give up on some of these states so they're not experienced with getting the vote there. >> well, hopefully, there's enough left of the 50-state strategy so that they are going to have experience. some of these races, arizona has been -- you know, bill clinton won in arizona in one of his presidential races. so it is possible to do this. it's also possible and transplant the same methodology you might use in pennsylvania to georgia or arizona. >> and what do you make -- have you heard anything from the new trump team, campaign management team that indicates anything is going to be different now? >> well, no. but it's early. they have no operation on the ground. now, the rnc has some, but it's very hard to motivate ground
operation without somebody to be excited about. you know, i do not expect this group -- this election to be a run away. i do expect trump to right the ship at some point. i also do expect hillary clinton to be the next president of the united states. i'm waiting for trump to come back. i don't want the democrats to be over confident about this. we have to do the work and we have to do the turn outs and we need to win georgia and arizona in particular. >> as you talk about the trump campaign, there's no one who has any experience with it and kelly con way doesn't have any experience and the new guy knows nothing about that. >> there -- if there's going to be any ground game it has to be the rnc. the ground game has gotten better but it's knock like the obama ground game. the ground game and his two campaigns was the best that has ever been run in the united states and maybe ever will be for a long time and she has a lot of obama's people who know how to do this working for her. so i'm reasonably optimistic, i
think we're going to win because the republican government have made their own people so angry where their complete malfeasance over the last four years. and i do think we have a shot in arizona. i think john mccain is going to lose. >> it's looking really sad for him out there. thank you very much, really appreciate it. >> thanks lawrence. >> up next, public art broke out, identical statute of donald trump appeared here in new york city and four other cities, that's next. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. by choosing flonase, you're choosing more complete allergy relief and all the enjoyment that comes along with it. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances. most allergy pills only control 1. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. with flonase, more complete relief means enjoyment of every beautiful moment. flonase,
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>> what is very likely to be the most memorable art, if you're lucky enough to be in one of these five cities, new york, los angeles, san francisco, cleveland, you might have seen one of these five identical statutes up close if you wanted to. the statutes were created by do artist who calls himself ginger. he has titled them the emp error has no something else i can't say on tv. he used a slang word for a part of the male anatomy, but i can't mention. and the statutes, indeed, are missing that part. >> wow. >> that's all i can say. >> that's just speechless. it's hilarious.
>> girl, that's a micro -- >> i guess this is how you make america great agn. >> i think it's pretty awesome. i'm a ginger myself and i don't like what he's doing portraying us in a bad light. >> after the new york city department of parks and recreation removed the unauthorized statute from union square, the department -- which clearly has the best writers in american government -- issued this statement. "nyc parks stands firmly against any unpermitted erection in in city parks no matter how small." and that -- new york city parks for the first time ever -- gets the last word. good evening.
i'm chris matthews in washington. donald trump's cavalry is taking to the field against hillary clinton. it's boots and saddles with the bugle calling charge. the only question is which direction. will trump head back to his winning message of standing up for the country, the nationalist and populist excitement that won him all the primaries? can he focus his attention on hillary clinton? can somebody keep trump, trump? the phenomenal figure who did defeat every rival to win the republican nomination? tonight, we have as our lead guest, the somebody trump picked himself to do just that. his brand new campaign manager, kellyanne conway. thanks for joining us. here's the question. you probably have a lot on your mind but the question i have tonight is how do you do it? you have so many weeks between now right to the finish, you got to turn this baby around, you got to remind everybody why they like trump, get him back to 50-50 where he was pretty much