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it's when the newly expressed sentiments are genuine or not, why because the minimal standard of getting elected president of the united states is not standing and looking like an sob. the that's "hardball." for now. tonight on "all in." >> i'm always careful with clients. >> donald trump's campaign chairman quits. >> my father didn't want to have the distraction. >> tonight all the palace intrigue on the third reboot in five months. plus, the new softer trump returns to divide and conquer. >> what do you have to lose? >> and just what does donald trump mean when he expresses regret? >> i regret it. >> i'll ask a trump senior advisor tonight. >> particularly where it may have caused personal pain. plus, disaster politics on the bayou. frightening new zika warnings in a major american city.
>> we believe we have a new area where local transmissions are occurring. "all in" starts now. good evening from new york, i'm joy reid in for chris hayes. this week when donald trump brought in two new people to take over day-to-day leadership from campaign manager paul manafort, the campaign insisted it was not in crisis. this was just a normal part of staffing up for the general election. >> there is no shake-up. no one is out. everyone retains their position. he's just adding to the campaign, which is something that we've been doing all along the way. >> well, today the other shoe finally dropped. less than two months after taking control following the ouster of corey lewandowski, paul manafort abruptly handed in his resignation. initially brought in to oversee the convention and help repair relationships with the gop establishment, manafort spearheaded efforts to try to rein in donald trump's most destructive instincts. those efforts led to trump
feeling boxed in and did nothing to stop his downward slide in the polls. one campaign source told nbc news the relationship between trump and manafort was tense, even adversarial, with trump reluctant to listen to and trust his campaign chair. the source said trump didn't like being told he was wrong. on top of that, manafort has been under increasing scrutiny for his ties to former pro-russian government in ukraine which was toppled in massive violent protests two years ago. a string of recent reports uncovered new details about manafort's lobbying on behalf of the pro-russian party and the financial windfall he may have received. now according to another report, his firm is actually under federal investigation. in an interview, donald trum son, eric, acknowledged that manafort's ukraine dealings had played a role in his departure. >> i think my father didn't want to be distracted by whatever things paul was dealing with. paul was amazing. you know, he helped us get through the primary process. he helped us get through the convention. he did a great job with the
delegates. again, my father didn't want to have the distraction looming over the campaign. quite frankly, looming over all the issues that hillary is facing right now. >> the manafort news has overshadowed what the new management surely hoped would be a day of positive news coverage for trump, something he hasn't experienced in quite a while. all week trump has been attempting his umpteenth general election pivot, giving speeches trying to
stay on message and last night he tried something totally new, an apology of sorts. >> sometimes in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that, and believe it or not, i regret it. and i do regret it. particularly where it may have caused personal pain. >> now, trump didn't actually
specify what he was apologizing for and he appeared to back away from it somewhat later in his speech. more on that coming up in a bit. according to his new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, it's all part of a strategy to change how trump is perceived. >> of all the people, david, that have been saying, hey, let's get trump to pivot and be more presidential, that is presidential. it's also presidential today to have him and governor pence going to louisiana in a decidedly nonpolitical event, no press allowed, going to help people on the ground who are in need. >> conway was referring to trump's visit today in baton rouge where record-breaking floods have left thousands homeless in the worst u.s. national disaster since hurricane sandy. the republican nominee toured the area this morning alongside his running mate. >> i've had a great history with louisiana. they need a lot of help. what's happened here is incredible. nobody understands how bad it is. it's really incredible. so i'm just here to help. >> but despite the campaign shake-up and the candidate reboot this week, there have been
telling signs that trump is
still trumping. today the campaign released the very first general election ad, part of a $4 million ad buy in four battleground states. it echos the underlying theme of trump's convention. be afraid. be very
afraid. >> in hillary clinton's america, the system stays rigged against americans. syrian refugees flood in. illegal immigrants convicted of committing crimes get to stay, collecting social security benefits, skipping the line. our border open, it's more of the same, but worse. donald trump's america is secure. terrorists and dangerous criminals kept out. the border secure. our families safe. change that makes america safe again. donald trump for president. >> i'm donald trump, and i approve this message. >> trump's campaign stop in north carolina last night, the site of his big mea culpa, a 18-year-old was ejected from the
rally. the student who is asian-american and his father say they believe he was profiled because of his dark skin. joining me republican strategist rick wilson who's working for independent presidential candidate evan mcmullin and josh. i want to start where we ended there u i'll start with you, rick. it wouldn't seem you two are the obvious people to ask this next question but in a way you are. donald trump both yesterday in north carolina and then today is target to make this pitch ostensibly to african-americans. i want to have you take a listen to it. >> no group in america has been more harmed by hillary clinton's policies than african-americans. no group. tonight i'm asking for the vote of every single african-american citizen in this country who wants to see a better future.
look how much african-american communities have suffered under democratic control. to those i say the following -- what do you have to lose by trying something new, like trump? >> i'm not sure who he was point do because where trump was speaking has a population that is 94% white, 1.1% african-american. maybe he was point to, i don't know, the one person of color who didn't get thrown out like that poor asian-american teenager who was a trump supporter. rick, why would trump go to michigan and try to make a pitch to african-americans? >> because donald trump isn't a guy with a political brain in his head. he doesn't understand the high hurdle that he has to climb with african-americans, especially in a week after he's just named as the replacement for manafort,
the former russian tool that just left. he named his replacement, steve bannon, a guy who is a cancer on conservatism and has spent the last year and a half whipping up his breitbart audience with racially inflammatory coverage over and over again. this is a guy who has a very difficult sell to make here. and because trump doesn't understand that african-americans are innately skeptical of his message because of his past, his father's past as a guy who was repeatedly dinged for being -- excluding african-americans from his housing and who was allegedly affiliated with the klan. this is a guy with a very difficult history with african-americans and it's very hard to make that sell. but also if you just scratch all that and say as just a purely amoral calculating political moment and say i'm going to try to get part of the democratic base, you probably would have had to do a lot more work on the front end than the back end and say hey, vote for me, it's a
hail mary, what could go wrong? well, with trump, a lot can go wrong. >> with all of that that you just heard rick wilson say, i feel like, josh, that part of this is that the audience was not african-americans at all. the audience is obviously white voters who may look at the bannon hire and say, oh, wait a minute, breitbart. you mean the alt right site that's a thinly veiled cover for the neo nazi movement in the united states and feel really uncomfortable with that. but he's saying, no, i like african-american, you can vote for me. >> there are two different messages for white voters. this is not a message for black people. one is, you know, democrats are the real racists. the problems black people have are democrats fall. people should stop harassing us republicans about this and that's a message for his base. the other thing for white voters who ordinarily often vote republican but are put off because they think donald trump is way too racist is, no, look, really i care about black people. look at me focusing on black people.
i am not too racist to vote for. i don't think he's making that message work in part because of the way that he went off script in these comments. one thing he said nominally addressing black people was you are living in poverty, your schools are terrible. you don't have jobs. so obviously not true of all or even most black people in the united states. >> correct. >> and that wasn't in the remarks. the remarks were somewhat -- or in the scripted remarks. it was supposed to be somewhat more careful basically trying to lay out why black people face a lot of problems in the u.s. but he couldn't stay on that script. one thing i think is interesting about this is the way trump often talks about struggling mostly white communities actually sounds quite similar to the way he talked about black communities. in a way i actually think seems very condescending, basically talking about how terrible their communities are. he said upstate new york looks like a war zone. this doesn't seem to put off all white people, it actually seems to appeal to a lot of people in those communities. so part of what his psychology could be is, well, i talk to white people about how terrible
everything is for them and how everything is so screwed up for them so why not try it for black people. >> i think there is a victimhood envy on that part of the right. in breitbart a lot of the message is you are being victimized by people of color, by muslims, et cetera, but i want to go back to the end of it because that ad that shows trump's america as essentially almost an armed camp where the military will invade it and take care of everyone, that's what it looked like in the ad, that on top of the fact that the other contradictory thing that trump is doing is saying america first, but then having all of these russo philes around them. manafort may be out but rick gates is still there. you still have carter page, who is the foreign policy advisor who's thought to be the guy who changed the republican platform to be more pro-putin and anti-nato. you've got ivanka trump, who is his advisor, vacationing with wendy deng who used to be married to rupert murdoch but is
dating vladimir putin. michael flynn. i'm going to go to you first, josh, what is going on here? >> i think a couple of things. i don't think donald trump set out to be the pro-russian candidate. i think this is sort of a crowd he fell in with. i don't think he thinks deeply about u.s.-russia relations. i think he has a gut level attraction to authoritarian leaders so he has a vague liking for vladimir putin. i think if he became president, it's likely he would end up feeling that he had been double crossed by putin and we might end up in way more conflict with russia than with a normal president. but nobody in the respectable foreign policy establishment will deal with donald trump. >> right. >> so he has to find advisers that end up being marginal weird cranks. >> real quickly, rick, why doesn't the base of the republican party rebel against this pro-putinism? >> they are rebelling in large measure. republicans are slipping away from donald trump every day.
he's losing more republicans support. he's not consolidating the republican vote. they're starting to worry about it. the foreign policy driven republicans are already very much in the weeds because they recognize dictators and authoritarians are not the role malls for american presidents. >> indeed. thank you both, happy friday. have a great weekend. still to come, donald trump's campaign shake-up. will it help overturn his extreme deficit with one major demographic, women voters? we'll talk about that ahead. plus, after trump admits he regrets some of the things he said, we wanted to know what exactly he might regret saying so i'll ask a senior advisor to trump's campaign just that right after this two-minute break. ♪ ♪ it's easy to love your laxative when that lax loves your body back. only miralax hydrates, eases and softens to unblock naturally, so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax. when shoers add an item they automatically shrink
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i have done that. and believe it or not, i regret it. [ crowd chanting "trump, trump" ] and i do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. >> in the face of withering criticism and sinking poll numbers, donald trump kicked off last night's campaign speech in charlotte, north carolina, by expressing regret for having caused personal pain. but it wasn't exactly clear whether trump was actually apologizing. >> so many talking about your speech yesterday, was that an apology? >> well, they have to take it -- i really enjoyed that speech. i think people enjoyed it very much. >> it also remains unclear what
trump feels so badly about. since his statement of regret was more of a blanket "my bad" than specified nothing. newly named campaign manager kellyanne conway tried to clarify things. >> we heard last night that sort of new tone. he actually said that sometimes along the way in the heat of the moment you say the wrong thing, but he went further. donald trump saying i do regret it, particularly where it may have caused personal pain. what was he talking about? >> he was talking about anyone who feels offended by anything he said. that's all him. >> you mentioned anyone who's been personally offended by what he said. you know, john mccain early on when he said, you know, he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured. what he said about the khans just week ago. will he reach out to the khan family personally? >> he may but i certainly hope that they heard him last night. >> bear in mind that what made last night so remarkable is that it came from a man whose personal doctrine as far back as
anybody can remember is telling it like it is means never having to say your sorry. when don imus asked him if he regretted disparaging john mccain's military service. >> do you regret saying that? >> i don't -- i like not to regret anything. i mean, you know, you do things and you say things. what i said, frankly, is what i said. and, you know, some people like what i said, if you want to know the truth. i mean there are many people that like what i said. you know, after i said that, my poll numbers went up seven points. >> in the latest nbc news/survey monkey poll, donald trump is down nine points to hillary clinton. joining me now is senior advisor to the trump campaign, jack kingston, former republican congressman from georgia. congressman, thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. >> it's great to be with you, joy. >> let's talk about that. donald trump says he regrets anything he may have said that has caused personal pain, and then kellyanne conway, the new campaign manager, said that he may reach out to those that feel offended. let's just go through some of the things he said that have
caused not just personal pain, that have actually hurt him. probably the thing that has hurt donald trump the most with african-americans who don't know his personal history, the things like housing discrimination, is the birtherism, saying that barack obama is not an american citizen, which he started saying as far back as 2011. why doesn't he show his birth certificate, demanding to see his papers. do you think that's something that donald trump regrets? >> i don't know. i'm wondering if the hillary and the democrats regret calling in mrs. trump's citizenship. maybe that's the same. >> i don't think democrats have questioned her citizenship. >> joy, absolutely they have. >> sir, that's an excellent tactic. i used to do campaign communications so i know shifting the subject to something else is a great tactic, but you didn't answer my question. let me go to the next one, hold on. >> joy, my job is to present our side and now -- >> but i'm asking you a question and you didn't answer. >> i didn't agree with you so -- i just -- well, okay. we're going to reset. you go ahead. >> do you think he regrets the
birtherism? you can just say yes or no. >> i don't think he did anything wrong. i think he raised the question. >> wait, do you still question whether the president of the united states is a citizen? >> let me say this, i think you guys should accept an apology and just go with it. i mean this is what the left has been demanding. he made an apology. now i frankly would love to see hillary clinton apologize to the family of the dead soldiers in benghazi when she told them that it was caused by video, which was an absolute positive lie. wouldn't it be nice if she said, you know what, i was secretary of state. i am responsible. your son's death were not caused by -- >> we don't have unlimited time. hold on a second, sir. sir, sir, are you going to just filibuster or are you going to answer any question i ask you? give me one second. i'm going to ask you another question because you have gone through and given two specific things you would like to see the democrats apologize for so let me give you a specific thing that perhaps donald trump might want to apologize for. calling mexican migrants
rapists. do you think that's something that you would advise him to apologize for? >> i think you got an apology last night. >> for what specifically? did it include mexican migrants? >> he said anything that caused pain. >> but you have to answer one specific thing that you think he might want to apologize for. >> this was a significant speech -- >> mr. kingston, you still have not answered. let's try another one. you're a former colleague of senator john mccain. john mccain serves in the united states senate. >> joy, i'm sure you have a list -- >> do you think -- >> of democrat talking points there. >> do you raise questions as to whether or not he should apologize to john mccain, your former colleague. would you advise him to do that? >> do you think hillary should apologize -- >> let's try another one. do you think that donald trump should apologize -- >> do you see what i'm saying. >> you're not answering any of my questions. >> you're not answering me. >> but you're here to answer questions, not ask them. so i'm going to try one more. >> i'm trying to have a discussion with you, joy. >> it isn't a discussion if i ask you a question and you
answer with a nonsequitur. >> this is a political discourse. >> you're an advisor to the campaign, sir, i'm going to try one more time. >> here's what i would say -- >> you are an advisor to the campaign, sir. would you advise him to make specific apologies rather than a blanket vague one? would you advise him to specific ole apologize to the khan family? >> no, i think that people who were dissatisfied have already made up their minds that they don't like donald trump. >> okay. it sounds like you don't think he should be specific in his apologies. >> the economy and the foreign policy and the issues that count, that's where the speech really went. >> jack kingston, you are an excellent politician because the filibuster appears to be her special. you did a great job. >> thanks a thought. >> we want to remind you that hillary clinton and donald trump will appear in back-to-back in a commander in chief forum which will be hosted by the iraq and afghanistan veterans of america
on september 7th. it's an historic event, first of its kind, and you can watch it right here in primetime on msnbc and nbc. coming up, donald trump visited flooded baton rouge today despite the governor warning him not to come for a photo op. how that went, just ahead. but for all the other birds who could use a few more minutes of sleep, we've got you covered. enjoy free breakfast on the run and free wi-fi. book at hampton.com for a guaranteed discount.
coming up, a wild scene in the bayou today when donald trump an his heavily armed secret service escort hastily landed in flood-ravaged louisiana. the presidential politics of disaster is next. but first, in the late 1970s the u.s. made a deal to sell arms to iran when the country was still being run by this guy, u.s. ally, whose return to power had been orchestrated by the cia. then in 1979 came the iranian
revolution. the overthrow of the shah, the rise of ayatollah khamenei and the hostage crisis. the u.s. was not about to send arms its way. but iran had already paid $400 million for fighter jets and the iranians sought restitution, ultimately taking their case to the hague, where they wanted $10 billion in today's money. the obama administration negotiated with iran to get that amount down to $1.7 billion and was set to pay the first installment of $400 million in january, just as sanctions were being lifted on iran in conjunction with the separately negotiated iran nuclear deal. but there was a sticking point. iran had detained a group of americans, including a "washington post" reporter and the u.s. wanted them freed before it handed over any cash so it used its leverage. the state department acknowledging yesterday that it delayed the payment for several hours to ensure the prisoners were released before the money was handed over.
now, this outraged many republicans, including the party's presidential candidate, who used the news to attack both hillary clinton and the president. >> he said we don't pay ransom, but we did. he lied about the hostages openly and blatantly, just like he lied about obamacare. >> of course it wasn't actually a ransom. the money was going to be paid anyway. the administration just wanted to make sure its people were safe first. it was akin to what donald trump might call the art of the deal. and in fact it's basically what trump himself advocated last july when the iran nuclear deal was first announced. >> we have four prisoners over there. we should have said let the prisoners out. they shouldn't be over there. one is in there because he's -- because he's a christian, he's a pastor. one is in there, a writer. i mean they shouldn't be in prison. so he should have said we're not doing anything, let them out. they would have let them out in two minutes. nfl sunday ticket
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it's disgusting that the president is in martha's vineyard playing golf while this is happening. people's houses are under water, their lives are ruined. people are dead. you have caskets floating down the street and the president of the united states who was elected by the people can't stop a round of golf to go check in on the victims of this awful tragedy. >> despite the governor of louisiana making clear that political photo ops were not welcome in a time of crisis, donald trump and his running mate, mike pence, today traveled to flood-ravaged baton rouge for
a trip his campaign manager claimed would be decidedly nonpolitical with no press allowed. of course press was allowed, which josh marshall said it looked like somebody told ritchie rich he needed more extracurriculars on his college app. ouch. cameras captured the presidential candidate unloading toys from a truck his campaign said trump donated. we'll let the tape run for most of its entirety because as media ike pointed out today, trump unloaded the truck for all of 49 seconds, total. you're looking at the only 49 seconds of footage from trump's trip today that shows the candidate actually doing something that might plausibly be considered helping the people. consider this exchange. >> we're glad you're not playing golf in martha's vineyard. that's all we can say. we're glad you're not playing golf. >> it means a lot you showing up
here. >> somebody is. somebody is that shouldn't be. >> now it's true that president obama is on vacation in martha's vineya vineyard. he and his family go every summer. but he does plan to visit louisiana on tuesday. why not today? because when a politician, especially one trailed by a veritable army of secret service agents shows up to divert resources in the near immediate aftermath of a disaster, it doesn't help anyone except may the politician. as hillary clinton pointedly noted in calling for donations today. right now, the relief effort can't afford any distractions. the very best way this team can help is to make sure louisianans have the resources they need. joining me now is msnbc contributor howard dean, the former governor of vermont, presidential candidate and former chair of the dnc. governor dean, thank you for being here. it's great to talk to an actual former governor because in a crisis situation like this, would you want the president of the united states and all that comes with him barreling down into your state?
>> well, look, i think because the governor of louisiana said that it would be better if the president did not come, that pretty much clinches it. and trump went anyway because trump is all about trump and he doesn't give a damn about anybody in louisiana. so, you know, the answer to that is if the governor asks you not to come, you shouldn't go. he's going to go next week, which i think is good. >> and, you know, the other issue, of course, is that when a presidential candidate travels, they don't have as much secret service as the president, although when he was a candidate, barack obama had a lot because of the threats against him. you were a presidential candidate. can you talk about what it entails when a presidential candidate travels, the security that's required. >> well, the problem is not so much the secret service that comes. the problem is the what the secret service asks of the local law enforcement people. a lot of the actual sort of setup work, the secret service sends in a team in advance, but what they do is they work with
the local law enforcement people. they go through all the places that the presidential candidate is going to be. they turn the place upside down. they make -- this is not the kind of thing that you need in an emergency. and trump did this just to score points. >> and, you know, what donald trump actually did during that, we showed the 49 seconds, stop. literally as you said the whole secret service setup, the security setup, they have to clear the area and do a sweep and let the people come back in. all of that to unload boxes of play-doh and toys for 49 seconds. if you were a governor in a crisis situation, would that be worth it to you? would that help you in some way? >> no. that's exactly the wrong thing to do. the right thing to do is what hillary did and ask for money. these folks don't need play-doh, they need money. they need some help getting back on their feet. and coming in with a truckload of play-doh so you can look like you're doing something for these
folks is a joke. donald trump is a joke so let's just face it. but hillary did the right thing. hillary called for ed nations and that's what's needed. taylor swift stepped up to the plate and gave a million dollars. that's going to help a lot of people. what trump did is not going to help anybody except trump, and i doubt it helps him very much. >> let's quickly turn to the criticism of president obama for not going down immediately. then senator obama did go to texas and so did senator clinton in the wake of katrina. do you think this is a case he should have gone and shown himself in the aftermath of those floods? >> this is a really hard one. the political answer is maybe he should have. maybe -- i mean it'slway bad when you're playing golf and something like this happens, it looks like you don't care. this is not the first time this has happened. the guy is entitled to a vacation. and abandoning your golf game is one thing.
if he goes down there, he's in the way. trump was in the way. trump was a pain in the butt to a lot of these folks. when obama goes down there next week he's going to, a, have money in his hand for the emergency declarations. b, he's going to have a much better handle of what's going on and, c, the people on the ground will have more time to show him what's needed. the people from louisiana can't tell what's needed right now because they have to do an assessment before obama goes down there. >> yeah, and we'll definitely cover it when he gets down there. howard dean, thank you for your time. have a great weekend. >> thank you. still to come, a frightening new travel advisory from the cdc after confirmed cases of zika in miami beach. first, bill clinton takes his first steps into the sometimes antiquated traditions of being a potential first gentleman, and it's not off to a great start. that story just after the break. i worked years to get my medicare
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familiar to anyone who has followed the competition over the years because that isn't bill clinton's cookie recipe, it's hillary clinton's cookie recipe. the same recipe that she submitted in the very first first lady cookie bake-off in 1992, telling the press i want people to vote for my cookies. it's a matter of honor. she got her wish. hillary clinton's oatmeal chocolate chip cookies won against barbara bush's chocolate chip cookies in 1992 and against elizabeth dole's pecan cookies in 1996. and now it seems like her husband is hoping to ride her cookie coat tails to victory this year too. voting closes october 4th. even . (1940s aqua music) (burke) and we covered it, february third, twenty-sixteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
there are now five confirmed cases of zika in one of the world's most popular tourist destinations, miami beach, florida. yesterday the "miami herald" reported mosquitos are spreading zika virus in miami beach according to sources familiar with discussions held by the florida department of health on thursday to alert local officials. again, yesterday according to the "miami herald" the florida
department of health did not respond to questions about zika in miami beach. but in an e-mail to miami beach commissioners, city manager jimmy morales noted that the two new zika infections were found in the resort city. last night the state health department said they had no confirmed cases of zika on miami beach, a position echoed by the city's mayor. >> there is no epidemic, there's no outbreak of zika on miami beach. nothing. and i repeat nothing has been confirmed from the florida department of health, by the cdc or by the county. i know there's been talk about some kind of cluster. there's no cluster. >> this afternoon the governor of florida, rick scott, gave a press conference officially confirming cases of zika in miami beach. joining me is the mayor of miami beach, philip levine. let's first talk about that change in position. what changed between yesterday when you were not confirming that there were cases of zika and your press conference this afternoon? >> thank you, joy.
it's unfortunate. you know what changed, the information from the governor. it was so sad that this governor actually is withholding life-saving information and playing politics with it. it wasn't just myself, it was the county mayor, none of us were able to get information from the governor or the florida department of health because for some reason they were not communicating with the public, with the media or with elected officials. so when the governor went out today and had his press conference to score political points, it was the first time we got actual confirmation that there were five limited cases associated, linked with miami beach. so we hope the governor will change his posture and he'll get the information out, because this is something we need to know. we need to know it timely, we need to beat this thing, but we need the information. >> explain to the viewers then how would it be that the mayor of a city would not be able to find out before the governor of the state who's all the way out in tallahassee that there were local cases of zika. don't the hospitals in your community, don't they report those up?
isn't that something that local city government is entitled to know directly and not have to wait for the governor? >> right, joy, you would think so. let me tell you the way it works. first of all, when you get contracted with zika, it's not necessarily that you'd be hospitalized. you may not even know that you had zika. you may have had it and got through it. the florida department of health actually handles this. they do testing. they're the ones that work with the cdc to find out what's specifically going on. i agree with you, you would think the governor and florida department of health would be in complete contact with local officials. i'm sorry to say, this governor is playing politics. zika is not replican, zika is not democrat, zika affec all of us. so i hope the governor is watching tonight because we want to make sure he understands the message loud and enclosure. let's not play politics with this very important issue. we want to maintain and make sure the people of miami beach, the residents and visitors are safe and healthy. that's our number one goal and will continue to be. >> so just to reiterate one more time because i think the concern a lot of people would have is
that if a local official of a major tourist destination like miami beach would not want to admit that there was a problem that might keep tourists away, are you saying that was not a consideration in your saying that those cases did not exist? >> absolutely not. last night the only information we got was that there's two unconfirmed cases that may have links to miami beach. now, what we can't do is we can't say things that we don't know are true. so unless we get confirmation from the governor, from the florida department of health who reports to the governor in tallahassee, we can't go out and say things we don't know are true and i would never do that. today we finally got kwir confirmation, but we got it like everybody else did during the governor's press conference, which is a real shame. but we've been working on this for a long time. we are making sure that our city is clean. >> thank you very much, i'm sorry, we are out of time. thank you for coming on and clarifying this, mayor levine, really appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, can trump's campaign shake-up help him regain any ground with women voters? we'll talk about that just after
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you've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president? >> i think the big problem this country has is being political correct. i've been -- [ applause ] i've been challenged by so many people, and i don't frankly have time for total political correctness. >> now, we don't have time to
list all the insults donald trump has hurled at women throughout the years. when called out on it in that first republican debate last august, trump decided that instead of expressing remorse over language used in the past, he'd just go after megyn kelly, suggesting, quote, she had blood coming out of her wherever. trump hasn't done a whole lot to earn the support of women voters since then. he's advocated for some sort of punishment for women that have a abortio abortions. he's even mused if his daughter, ivanka, were sexually harassed at work, she should find another company. trump is losing by 12 points nationally in the latest daybreak poll. but now after elevating kellyanne conway to the role of campaign manager, softening his expressing regret over comments. today conway said the candidate advocated expression of those regrets.
>> that's all him. he took extra time yesterday going over that speech with a pen, so that was a decision he made. those are his words. and i hope that everybody who's criticized him at some point, david, for being insensitive or for mocking someone at least show some recognition and some forgiveness. >> joining me now is correspondent for the nation, joan walsh and republican strategist, susan del percio. welcome to both of you. thank you for being here on a friday. susan, i'm going to start with you. the strategy of kellyanne conway is to do the softer donald trump, right? but doesn't he have to then get specific? once you say ivory grets, the natural question i tried with congressman jack kingston, didn't get anywhere, is that you need to be specific. as a strategist do you think that he should then be specific, specifically with the things that he said about women? >> i don't think he actually has to do that right now. what he needs to focus on is getting back the women, the republican women that he had right around the time of the convention when his numbers went up. i think they're facing a
two-part strategy. the first is what do we do before labor day. we get our republican numbers from the 70s up into -- support of the republicans from the 70s up into the low 90s. that's the first thing. that will help close the gap. then they have to, i hate to use this word pivot, but then they have to move into how to attract more independent voters and more women voters. and that is going to be definitely a challenge. >> how would they do that? what they're functionally doing, joan, is you are now seeing the new phase of the trump campaign going after hillary clinton's health, a woman who they are essentially taking ageist and i would say gendered attacks on. where is hillary sleeping, trump is tweeting. there's the priority usa ad that shows what he was doing before but their current attack is hillary is this unhealthy woman who can't stay awake. >> the rigor of the job. >> does that help? >> no, it doesn't help at all. i think -- i don't know what you're seeing on social media, but one of the main memes is
that she's incontinent. i'm not kidding. >> the hillary stools hash tag. >> and other things. catheter, somebody showed me where her catheter is. i mean this is a really ugly, dark depth that they are plunging to. i do want to say just for a moment i do give kellyanne conway some respect. she's done better than niblts. she's kept him on message for two days. she's got him doing a really mediocre imitation of somebody who knows the feeling of compassion and has common sense. he's trying to imitate somebody like that because he's not that. but she's the trump whisperer at least for now. the question is how long that lasts. and i do disagree with you. i don't think he can get away with never -- with not apologizing in some fashion to the khans. let's just take the khans and leave aside women, because i think women are appalled by that. >> i would argue that the comments with the khans hurt him more among women than anything
else that you showed us. i think that was worse for him with women. >> so then should he specifically apologize to do khans? it seems to me when you put out a generic apology, what you do is invite people to relitigate the things that you've said that were offensive and then ask you if you should apologize. it's not as if democrats are going to pretend he never said anything and as kellyanne said, be forgiving. >> it's august 19th so there's a lot of time to be had and he doesn't necessarily have -- it's not in his nature. he won't go back at relitigate and say i am sorry for this and i'm sorry i said that. what he's going to have to do is look forward and say how can he take some of the sharpness off the edges when he talks about terrorism, when he talks about the economy. before -- you know, during the primary he was certainly very rough and tumble and was certainly offensive to a lot of women. he's got to clean that part up and how he talks about the issues. and the issue of hillary clinton's health is absurd. i was very pleased to see last
night on chris matthews that kellyanne conway basically said we cannot -- that's not an issue i want to have out there. >> well, on the issue of softening the way that things are spoken about about the campaign, they finally released a campaign ad and it was anything but soft. it looked like america would be an armed encampment under donald trump. does that help them? >> i think they think that it does. i think if they scare women, that they'll scare women back into his camp but i think it comes off as really harsh, immigrant baiting. it lies about hillary clinton. she's not for open borders. i don't think it did anything positive. >> i think it did for republican women. i think that was targeted again to getting some of the republican women who have felt he's been off the rails for the last three weeks and need to get them back in his column. they need to get those numbers up. it's the only chance that they have post labor day of having a tightened poll so hillary clinton doesn't run away with it. that's what they're looking to do and then get competitive. >> what's going to happen is it's not as if the other side
will simply lay down. let me show you the priorities usa ad that was running a couple of months ago. i think you'll see this come back again. people will remind him and his supporters of this is the ad about women and donald trump. >> you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> does she have a good body? no. does she have a fat ass? absolutely. >> you like girls that are 5'1", they come up to where. >> if ivanka weren't my daughter perhaps i'd be dating her. >> a person who is flat chested is very hard to be a 10. >> and you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. >> does donald trump really speak for you? priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> we are so out of time. but is there anything donald trump can counter that? >> to wipe away 14 months. >> that's the biggest thing he has going against him. when you can use someone's own words against them, that's it. >> that's pretty powerful. >> it's really powerful.
>> and it's difficult for him to get away from because he said those things. joan walsh, susan del percio, thanks to both of you. that is "all in" this evening. i'll be back here tomorrow morning on my show at how are you? happy friday, my friend. >> happy friday, you get a reprieve from the 11:00 p.m. eastern return just so you can get enough sleep to be back here at 10:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow. >> but i could have done it, if they'd given me cocktails. >> you know where my oice is. you know what i keep in that giant chest that looks like it's a work related thing behind my desk. >> oh, i do. have a great show. >> wash the glasses when you're done. >> thank you. >> thank you. and thanks to you at home for joining us. it's a happy friday. nice to have you here. here's an american entrepreneur story that's quite remarkable. really, somebody who changed the world. self-made zillion air.