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young black and latino voters at trump tower. this face-to-face coming on the heels of a trump reversal of immigration. coming from a depore talgs force that would ship undocumented immigrants to their home country. now allowing immigrants to stay. and as trump continues reaching out to black and brown people, one of his fiercest reports yet against hillary clinton last night. >> hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings, worthy of a better future. >> donald trump has shown us who he is. and we ought to believe him. he is taking a hate movement mainstream, pedaling big owe tree and paranoia.
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>> she plans to continue that thought in nevada. she is expected to accuse trump of letting right wing conspiracy cooks hijack his campaign. >> right now at trump tower, katy tur at her second home there at trump tower. let's start with this tweet. we just got this tweet from donald trump. here's the tweet, we'll put it on the screen. so many in the african-american community are doing so badly, poverty and crime, way up, employment and jobs way down. i will fix it, promise. again, that tweet coming out, just a few moments ago, katy. donald trump appears to be really committed to this outreach. talk about this meeting going on right now. >> reporter: he's meeting with the republican leadership initiative, a meeting that is supposed to enable younger republicans to find a way to better do outreach within their community. so they're younger black and hispanic republicans who they're trying to encourage to go out into their own communities and to try and russel up support.
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ben carson at this meeting now, probably the biggest name our viewers at home might recognize. but there are a lot of younger folks, as well. this is all, as you said, part of donald trump's effort to reach out to black and hispanic voters, to try and convince them that he's not the racist that some have made him out to be. he's been saying this at rallies over and over again, what do you have to lose if you vote for me. democrats who have been overseeing your governments, overseeing your communities have done little for you. why not try donald trump. that message not going over so well among many in those communities. we spoke to a number of voters yesterday in jackson, mississippi, who frankly said that message was condescending, that they have a lot to lose and would rather donald trump have reached out to them earlier in this campaign before he realized he would need the minority vote in order to win. >> katie, i want to talk about this -- >> we have to keep the families together. >> but you're going to --
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>> they have to go. >> they have to pay taxes. there's no amnesty as such. i've had very strong people come up to me, and they have said, "mr. trump, i love you. but to take a person that's been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and the family out, it's so tough." >> reporter: you know, unfortunately, i think our sound bite played before it was ready. that was donald trump talking about immigration, craig. and i think you were about to ask that. in the past couple days, he's pivoted on immigration or at least appeared to soften his position on immigration, saying he's not necessarily for deportation forces any longer, which has been one of the pillars of his campaign for 14 months, now saying that he's going to find a way to work undocumented immigrants who are not criminals but who are here and make them pay back taxes, a sound bite you just heard. that sounds familiar to you, it should, because it's what jeb bush was proposing during the primaries, as well. it's a plan that donald trump
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attacked ruthlessly on. so this is lighting a lot of fires right now, frankly, in the political world, because many folks are saying how can donald trump who after attacking his opponent so viciously for their immigration plan, saying it wasn't strong enough, now go out and say he's going to change his immigration plan to essentially match theirs. will this be the plan going forward? craig, i would love to tell you it was or is. frankly, i just don't know what donald trump's position is on immigration at the moment. he seems to go back and forth on a day-to-day basis on whether he believes in the idea of deportation, amnesty or softening. until we get a policy proposal on paper or a policy speech, it's just not going to be clear what exactly he is for at the moment. >> katy tur outside trump tower where, again, that meeting is happening right now. we will be checking in with you periodically throughout the morning and afternoon. thanks, as always, katy. let's bring in javier maris, president and ceo of the u.s.
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chamber of commerce and rashad robinson, executive director of color change. >> good to talk to a fellow 4h alum. >> amen to that. amen to that. let's start with your take on this -- it's a reversal, turn-about, change of heart, whatever you want to call it, when you go from saying we're going to have this deportation force to saying we're going to soften our position, figure out a way to allow these undocumented immigrants to stay. no amnesty, they'll pay back taxes. your take on the change. of. >> well, i think this is, you know, bottom line, this is an act of desperation. this is the proverbial day of reckoning. i met with donald a year ago at donald trump tower and talked to him very candidly about where his campaign was headed and warned of the inevitable day when this would happen. and here you are. he sees that he has a lot of
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work to do. obviously, with the african-american community and with the hispanic community. this is nothing more than an act of desperation. you know, i don't know if donald trump is a racist. i think he's worse than that. i think he's a manipulator. you know, racism is nothing more than ignorance. but a manipulator. this is somebody who knows what he's doing and is trying to manipulate the hispanic community. he cannot unring the bell. he started his campaign denouncing the hispanic community, denigrating the hispanic community. it is too late, and this is way too little. it's not going to change anything. >> rashad, this change in tone, change in policy, perhaps, again, a sharp departure, and we just heard javier allude to how the campaign started. i wanted to remind our viewers and listeners -- i wanted to remind them precisely if we can to how we got here. so take a look. take a listen. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, they're
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bringing crime, they're rapists. hillary clinton would rather give a job to an illegal immigrant than to an unemployed hispanic citizen, an unemployed african-american citizen, or even to a veteran. what do you have to lose? you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. we'll get rid of the crime. you'll be able to walk down the street without getting shot. >> so there is donald trump's evolution, if you will. the evolution of his outreach to black and brown voters. is this an argument that's going to move the needle at all with black voters specifically? >> well, it's not for black voters. it's for white, sort of middle of the road voters who are feeling uncomfortable with some of this rhetoric. it's stuff they wouldn't want to hear at their dinner parties. stuff they don't expect to hear in sort of polite company. so he's trying to make this
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outreach, not to black folks because he doesn't know any black people. >> so when he says i'll have 95% of the black vote in four years, that's just -- that's just trumping trump. >> this is like a circus artists, right? this is him back at the apprentice, doing entertainment. this is not him having a real legitimate conversation. and we have seen this throughout the campaign. this is a 70-plus-year-old man who lives in midtown manhattan. the fact he doesn't know black people or brown people to have a conversation is about a set of choices. he's made throughout his life. a set of choices to not even rent to black people. a set of choices to attack folks like the central park five instead of choices to go after president obama, not on policies he may have disagreed with, but on his background and heritage, on his intelligence and asking for his transcripts. this is a man who has made it really clear who he is. so this sort of new window dressing can't change 70 years of bigotry, that we have seen throughout this not just -- not throughout his life, and we have seen really highlighted
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throughout his campaign. >> let me bring you back into the conversation here, if i can. javier. because you've got to admit, we have seen over the past week or so sort of the sustained attempt by the trump campaign, whether it's a speech in milwaukee, the meeting today, even if it's not authentic, even if it's not genuine, he does seem to be spending a lot of time talking about issues that should resonate with hispanic voters and african-american voters. and you think manipulation is the sole motivation there? >> absolutely. i think these are acts of a desperate candidate. he knows very well where he stands with both communities. he has no choice. you know, we have all been warning about this day. and here it is. he now has to figure out how to unring the bell. it's entirely too late. this is way too little and way too late. with both the african-american and the hispanic community. i think both communities stand united in recognizing a fraud
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when they see one. this man lies for a living. and the reality is, it's not going to change anything. but it is entertaining. i'll give you that. you know, i think that in the final analysis, you need to compare his track record with hillary clinton's track record as it relates to communities of color. i know for a fact that more than 40 years ago, hillary clinton was down in south texas where i'm from in the rio grand valley, registering hispanics to vote. throughout her life, she has worked with the african-american women and the hispanic community. this is a woman who has a long and storied track record with minorities and with women throughout. and when she started her campaign, the first thing she did was surround herself with a variety of voices, with a variety of ethnicities to advise her and really begin to inform her strategy for how she would become president of the united states. at every turn, hillary clinton and her team have been reaching out to my association, if not
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myself, and asking when we're in nevada, when we're in florida, when we're in texas. which hispanic or small business person needs to be part of our round table. what small business person needs to be part of our town hall. at every turn, she has been reaching out and we're just now hearing from donald trump. >> you know, i travel this country every week, every month, working to empower the voices, showing up where there is moments of crisis, helping our members engage on issues from voting rights, to criminal justice, to the economy. and we don't see trump anywhere. as i sit across this table from you, for him to say black people have nothing to lose. to the idea that we haven't gained anything in this country over several decades. that while there are deep challenges -- >> 58% of young black -- >> look, his numbers are true, but he's actually offered up not one single policy proposal in the conversation. what he's doing is just throwing back numbers that black people
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already know, because we are living in our communities and we understand what the challenges are. of but to tell us that we have nothing to lose, to tell us that we -- that there have been no gains, there are not ways in which we could actually go back, and could continue to go back. is not -- is an understanding of someone who actually has no relationships in black communities. it's someone that we should be deeply concerned about, and we should do everything we can do to stop him from being in the white house. >> rashad robinson, javier palmaris, a big thanks to both. we should note we will be hearing from the trump campaign coming up later in the broadcast. we will give them an opportunity to respond to some of what's been said over the last seven or eight minutes. thank you, both. thanks again. poverivoting here. one of the biggest outbreaks of tornadoes this year, and the freak storms, even caught forecasters by surprise. 40 tornadoes plowed through the
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midwest. this one, howard county, indiana, leveled businesses, leveled homes. you are looking at some of what's left. moments ago, indiana governor, vice presidential candidate, mike pence arrived in his home state touring the damage today. he announced on wednesday he was going to be taking a break from the campaign trail to get back to the business of indiana. we start with nbc's tammy leitner, in kokomo, indiana. tammy, what can you tell us, what's happening on the ground there in kokomo right now? >> reporter: craig, cleanup efforts. that's what's happening. 15 people were injured in this tornado, but amazingly, none were killed. now, if you take a look at this starbucks behind me, it's completely flattened. except for the restroom. and i'm told a store employee gathered all of the customers, put them in the restroom and that was how they survived. he is being called a hero today. we got a chance to go through one of the neighborhoods only
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about a half mile from here that was damaged. severe damage. house after house after house. just leveled. we had a chance to speak with one woman who was visiting from florida. imagine coming here from florida and being involved in this. let's go ahead and listen to what she had to say. >> we were on lockdown for a while, got the kids out of school, and the cops had every single -- everything cut off of the roads. you couldn't get in. we had to walk back in here. found a blessing, somebody upstairs is looking and watching over, because the house is still standing with minor damage. you look down the street and wonder, how did they deserve it? >> reporter: just amazing. and we're told there are still about 13,000 homes without power this morning, craig. >> that sound bite there perfectly encapsulating the randomness of storms like this. tammy leitner in kokomo, thank you. nbc meteorologist bill karins joins me now. bill, let's start with precisely how it was that these tornadoes, a few dozen of them, managed to
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catch guys like you off guard. >> it's very rare. in my 20 years of doing this, i don't remember this significant of a severe weather event that took place and really 12 hours in advance we didn't even know it was going to happen. didn't have any hints it was going to happen. in the wake of the morning, 95% accurate. still at 5%. this was the worst of the 5%, obviously. and the other part that goes into it, we're only as good as the information we get in. and so we get all of our information from the weather observations out there, and upper air soundings from balloons released. and that information that went into the computers give us no hibbert this was going to happen. maybe we get one or two tornadoes, you know, not within the areas that we are typically concerned with. that's worst-case scenario. areas barely in a marginal risk of severe storms to start the day. you saw it. these were springtime huge tornadoes you expect in may or
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april. this was the forecast map right here for yesterday morning. severe weather best chance in the yellow. you notice this area of green did have a little chance in indiana, marginal risk, we call it. a very little risk. we were thinking wind gusts, we had no hint whatsoever that what was going to take place was one of the biggest august tornado outbreaks. this wasn't just indiana, also northwest ohio also. in 12 hours, they had no advance notice, one of the worst outbreaks on record. craig, we were set up with our emergency managers and national weather service and media partners that once events do start to take place, we can quickly get the word out and even though we were behind in the morning, once the event started happening, it was well-covered. people had advance notice and that's why no lives were lost. >> amazingly. look -- >> shocking. how strong some of the tornadoes were -- >> bill karins, thank you. donald trump hitting the gas on his attacks against hillary clinton today. she is firing back. details on what will likely be
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this was the scene in kokomo, indiana, just a few moments ago, as we went to commercial break here. this is indiana governor, mike pence, touring the scene there. again, embracing folks who have lost so much. amazingly, loss of life there -- no loss of life there. he is spending much of the day
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talking to people who have damaged homes, dozens of homes damaged. some 40 tornadoes touching down in and around that part of indiana yesterday. after jam packed week of fund-raisi fund-raising, hillary clinton heading back to the campaign trail speaking at a rally in reno, nevada, taking aim at donald trump, and specifically more on what precisely this alt-right movement is. and let's bring in kristen welker. kristen, what can we expect from hillary clinton this afternoon in nevada. >> reporter: craig, first of all, secretary clinton trying to go back on offense after dealing with a number of very difficult headlines this week about her e-mails, about the clinton foundation and she is expected to take sharp aim at donald trump for his links to the alt-right movement. this sort of very conservative branch of the republican party. some would go so as far as to
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say it has white nationalist appeals. and so she is going to be using very strong language. we are told she is not expected to actually call him a racist, but she is going to go after him very hard. she gave a little bit of a preview last night during an interview with cnn. take a listen. >> he is taking a hate movement mainstream, brought it into his campaign. he's bringing it to our communities and our countries, and, you know, someone who has questioned the citizenship of the first african-american president, who has is a white supremacist, someone who is very much pedaling bigotry and prejudice and paranoia. >> craig, you could also expect her to take aim at trump's new c ceo, steve bannon. of course, the former head of breitbart news. he is someone who has pedalled a lot of the theories, she is going to raise that as well.
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and more broadly, this is an attempt to sort of not allow trump to pivot on some of these issues like immigration and, of course, given this recent outreach to african-americans and latinos, it's her way of trying to sort of hold his feet to the fire on some of his previous statements on those issues, craig. >> kristen welker in washington. kristen, thanks, as always. so, again, what is this alt-right movement that clinton will be addressing today. what role is it playing in the 2016 election? mark murray, nbc news senior political editor, joining us now with more on that. how can we define alt-right. where did it come from, mark? >> craig, it was a term that came up around 2010 on our conservative website called the alternative right. and the nbc political unit. we reached out to prominent republicans, journalists to ask them to define what it is. one of the definitions as kristen repeated in your interview right now, people
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often say this is about white nationalists particularly online. some of the people we surveyed go beyond that. some believe it was a conservatism that goes beyond the establishment, the paul ryan, mitch mcconnells of the world and another definition that it's against mass migration as well as multiculturalism. so some heavy against immigration, against foreign intervention and certainly against multiculturalism. so i think those are some of the definitions. but as kristen was just telling you, this has become a lot more prominent now that breitbart ceo, steve bannon is now the ceo of the trump campaign. bannan and breitbart have seemed to dabble in some of this alt-right world and hillary clinton is going to be addressing it this afternoon. what. >> do we know about donald trump's ties to this movement, mark? >> yeah, he doesn't have any direct ties, craig, but it is worth noting there are parts of the alt-right that have embraced
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parts of donald trump's message. and i don't think anyone -- would be fair to label that donald trump is an alt-right candidate. but what has happened, this movement has really been a subterranean movement over the last several years, but it has actually come on to that, given donald trump a lot of his rhetoric. where all of a sudden you and i are having this conversation, others are having this conversation and a lot of it has to do with the rhetoric that's come from donald trump and some of the planks and things he ends up representing. >> mark murray in d.c., breaking it down. thank you. donald trump looking to build support with minority voters. a live look at the meeting we have been talking about. this is taking place inside trump tower, just a stone's throw from where we're sitting here in new york city. this is an rnc outreach group, largely african-american, largely hispanic. you can see the republican presidential nominee chatting it up there.
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again, continuing what has turned into at least a week-long effort to reach out to minority voters. we'll continue to talk about this meeting. we'll also talk about donald trump turning the granite state red. he also see ben carson there, his one-time rival, sitting next to him. live in new hampshire, where the gop will be making his pitch to voters two-and-a-half hours from now, heading to new hampshire at 1:00 this afternoon.
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is visiting one of the least diverse states in america. >> reporter: it should be noted. you know, the campaign manager was asked about this yesterday, and she said the schedule has been pretty much set over the next week or two and that after labor day, we'll see a different schedule. the campaign has said they will visit more urban areas. we're still waiting for that. and as we do, we're talking to folks in line about a few things. the minority outreach and as well the flip-flop on immigration. that seems to be the talk of a lot of people in line. we're going to talk to a man named shane. shane, you can just look over here at me. thank you for talking to us. we're talking about donald trump's language on immigration. very different than a year ago. are you okay with this new softened language on immigration? >> yes, sir, i am. >> and why is that? why should we not hold our candidates to what they say they were going to do? >> because as americans, we can change our minds. everyone who is illegally here
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should be vetted properly and not a mass deportation. breaking up families, keep them out of the country. >> reporter: so safe to say you always expected them to come this way? >> he's a man. he's a human being. so he has feelings, and he can't -- he will not break up families. children who are born here, they're citizens of this country. so they deserve to be here. so a proper vetting of the family is proper. and i think that's what he believes now. they believe that trump is a businessman, able to change his mind. he's not a politician. craig? >> all right. we'll leave it there and come back later. manchester, new hampshire, jacob rascon. donald trump roughly there at 12:00 this afternoon. now to an nbc news
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investigation into the complex maze of donald trump's finances. trump has continuously resisted calls to release his taxes and moved that eric trump has said would be, quote, foolish. now nbc taking a hard look at his money trail. cynthia mcfadden has that story this morning. >> reporter: donald trump has a thing for debt. >> i'm the king of debt. i love debt. >> reporter: in fact, a three-month investigation by the "new york times" revealed donald trump likes debt twice as much as his financial disclosure forms indicate. though even that was more than he was required to reveal under federal election rules. so what's the bottom line? >> the bottom line, we found a lot of opaque ties and things that were hard to explain that i think could be of concern to some people if donald trump were elected to the white house.
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fox saying how small his debt load is. >> i have very little debt. >> reporter: it's those assets now raising questions. first, how rich is he? is he worth the $11 billion he claims or the $3 billion bloomberg reports? and second, how much does --? and to whom? >> i think we would need to know who he owes money to, who he would be accountable. >> reporter: financial disclosures. >> no president can be totally free of conflicts of interest, particularly if they're wealthy and have a lot of holdings. but disclosure would go a long way towards helping. >> reporter: for example, the "new york times" reports trump owns 30% of this new york city office building with a debt of $950 million. among the lenders, the bank of china and goldman sachs. that captured the attention of the clinton campaign today. >> tell me how he's going to
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stand up to. >> reporter: but the trump campaign hit back, telling nbc news today, neither mr. trump nor his company were responsible for the debt associated with the limited partnerships. trump has further dismissed concerns about possible conflicts of interesting, saying he would put his assets in a blind trust, even though he doesn't have to. which means he wouldn't know how those assets are managed. >> if i become president, i couldn't care less about my company. it's peanuts, i have ivanka and eric and don sitting there. run the company, kids. i wouldn't ever be involved, because i wouldn't care about anything but our country. anything. run it as a legal matter. >> reporter: and there is another problem. experts say a blind trust would only be truly blind if mr. trump
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doesn't know what's in it. so would he have to say, goodbye trump tower? cynthia mcfadden, nbc news, new york. >> boris enston, senior adviser to the trump campaign. we always appreciate your time. you know what would help a lot of folks make sense of the complex web that seems to be his finances? if he would just release his tax returns. i am sure you know, they don't show what you own -- only show income. >> but it would give a lot of folks in addition to peace of mind, would help folks understand more about donald trump's finances. >> have you ever read a tax return? >> i have and filed a number. >> he said he would do it that's
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exactly what donald trump has done because he is such a strong negotiator and he wants in on the partnership but not obligated for the debt. and donald trump is perfectly fine with being the only candidate in more than political history for president of the united states to not release a u.s. tax return. he's fine with that. >> he's followed the law to a t, and the same absolutely cannot be said for the clinton campaign. it was ritual for brian fallen. we know hillary clinton lied to congress about turning over e-mails. >> while i have you here, i want to get you to respond to the top of the broadcast. we had some guests on, they were somewhat critical of your -- they were a bit critical.
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javier palmaris. this is his take on donald trump's latest comments on immigration. >> i don't know if donald trump is a racist. i think he's worse than that. much i think he's a manipulator. racism is nothing more than ignorance. but a manipulator. this is somebody who knows what he's doing and is trying to manipulate the hispanic community. he cannot unring the bell. he started his campaign denouncing the hispanic community. denigrating the hispanic community. it is too late and this is way too little. it's not going to change anything. >> what's behind his softening? >> i guess we know who javier is voting for, but he's incorrect and wrong. and there is no reason to use terms like racism. >> he said he did know -- >> he doesn't know anything about donald trump because he obviously doesn't know the man. donald trump has said
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consistently he will make sure criminals are out of this country and murdered. so crimes like the murder of kids. sanctuary cities will be put to an end. he has been consistent on that. he has also been consistent on saying the illegal immigrants who are not criminals -- >> he has. that's not true. boris, he spent the better part of six months talking about a deportation force, talked about getting all of the 11 million or so illegal immigrants, getting them out of this country. one could argue it was that argument that propelled him to the top of the republican primary heap. >> i disagree with that. rnls you would not disagree with the fact that immigration was and continues to be one of the corner stones of his campaign. now all of a sudden here we are, 75 days before the election and saying, well, you know what, not amnesty, pay back taxes. >> hillary clinton has a 100 day plan. >> this isn't about hillary clinton. this conversation is about what
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is obviously a flip-flop. >> it is not a flip-flop. and i wouldn't editorialize like that. there is no reason to do that. >> we tall a spade a spade. >> what it is, craig, it is a statement of a policy that will be expanded upon. and, again, the key is this. ended sanctuary cities. kicking out -- deporting immigrants who are criminals. under obama, 300,000 have gotten to stay in this country? that is absolutely unacceptable. >> this white house has also deported more illegal immigrants than any administration prior. >> but they haven't -- >> you can see that. bush included. >> that's the numbers, but they have not done enough because sanctuary cities are still in place. continue to happen. donald trump will put an end to that. it has nothing to do with race or background or ethnicity. >> what happened to the muslim ban? why did he stop talking about it? >> very clear on that as of now, there will be a stop on entry to
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america of folks who are from countries who export terrorism until we figure out extreme vetting solutions. that's what will be in place. >> you can appreciate how to a lot of folks this looks like a classic case. they look at the polls and say you know, your polling in the single digits with black voters and barely the double digits with brown voters. we've got to do something. there is none of that here. this is not a result of polling, not a result of anything hike that. >> this campaign is not about that, craig. this campaign is about donald trump. and as he speaks to folks like he said last night. of course the policies will continue to be clarified. he is someone out there talking to people and getting press conferences. 264 days since hillary clinton has been talking to the people and giving press conferences. what is she doing? her policy, again, is 100-day amnesty plan. that is night and day between what donald trump is proposing
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to keep american workers safe. and hillary clinton -- wide open, and increase syrian refugee influx by 550%. that's a huge problem. >> boris, you said a number of things there that aren't true. we're out of time. thank you for your time. i always appreciate the facts you come in and talk to us. still ahead, 24 hours and hundreds of aftershocks later. the desperate search for survivors. the search continues in italy at this hour. we will go there, live.
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part, quote, we condemn yesterday's heinous attack. the targeting of afghan students and university staff working to improve the future of afghanistan is a cruel and cowardly act. coming up, we'll take you to a state where donald trump and hillary clinton are locked in a dead heat.
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barack obama won fairly easily in 2008 and 2012. a growing hispanic population. maybe 20% of the electorate or more this time. growing asian population, as well. also very supportive of democratic candidates. the race here has remained tight. nevadans are late deciders. there is a large population of uneducated voters, which donald trump essentially has said is his base. and you know what also, craig? it's also possible the polls could be wrong. >> no. no, john. the polls are never wrong. hillary clinton there this afternoon, roughly 1:00. she will be speaking there in nevada. what do voters in rio -- what do they want to hear from hillary clinton? how can she sway them? >> well, it's interesting that you ask that question. these polls that i mentioned have shown that hillary clinton is lagging in washoe county, the swing county in nevada. clark county, las vegas, where i'm sitting, is very democratic.
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the rural counties are super republican. and washoe is a swing county and hillary clinton is slightly behind in polling that i have seen. and i think they're concerned about that. which is why they're bringing hillary clinton to reno. she is going to give a speech designed for a national audience about the so-called alt-right. donald trump stirring up racism in america. but the big news locally in reno will be that hillary shevi is going to endorse her in a surprise announcement i learned early this morning, craig. they are trying to bump up her numbers in reno, meaning hillary clinton's numbers. it is a county that has saved the democrats running statewide in the past, and hillary clinton may need to win washoe county. >> really quickly. harry reid retiring after 30 years. nevada senior senator. is his retirement having any sort of effect on the
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presidential race there in that state? >> well, it's interesting, because harry reid, as you know, after playing a cautious through the caucus privately helped hillary clinton, endorsed her. but i don't think he does her much good at all. his numbers are still not very good, craig. maybe 50% of the folks in nevada don't like harry reid. i don't think you're going to see harry reid campaigning with hillary clinton a lot. but harry reid wants to retain his senate seat. we have maybe the most important senate race in the country. the only one that the republicans think they can take from the democrats. so harry reid and his machine -- political machine -- are going to be pivotal, i think. >> nevada voted for the potential president since 1980. john raulston, our man in nevada on the scene. thank you, sir. always appreciate your time. coming up, we will take you to the disaster zone, search and rescue crews in italy racing against the clock. they are also dealing with some aftershocks, as well.
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rescuers continue to sift through the rubble this hour, searching for survivors from that deadly earthquake in italy. the number of dead now reached 241. nbc's lucy cavanaugh remains on duty for us in amatrice. what's the scene this morning? >> reporter: craig, despair, destruction and a did he sesper search for survivors, the situation on the ground, day two of the search and rescue efforts as workers race against the clock to try to get to anyone who might still be alive and trapped beneath the rubble. one of the many difficulties they are experiencing is the
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aftershocks. just about an hour -- over an hour ago, we experienced one here, the strongest i personally felt, 4.3 magnitude, the ground shook, it was terrifying, the buildings rattled, you didn't know where to run. you can imagine how terrifying it would be for the rescuers standing amidst the rubble. we know officials have opened an investigation into some earthquake-proof buildings that collapsed. a lot of devastated, angry people with questions for the government about why more wasn't done to prevent this tragedy. craig? >> lucy calf now for us there in central italy. we will be right back. vanaugh f in central italy. we will be right back.
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and even from marco rubio's immigration plan. signalling that he'll support a path for legal status for undocumented immigrants. how will his core supporters correct name. and hillary clinton goes on offense after trump calls her, a quote, bigot. he is focusing on the alt-white or nationalist groups trump accused of courting. also, for the second time this summer, leslie jones attacked, hosting alleged nude photos of her, personal information, and racial slurs on her personal website. the fbi is reportedly now involved. good morning, everyone, i'm tamron hall coming to you live from our msnbc headquarters in new york. pictures coming in from the meeting donald trump is holding right now at trump tower with a group of american and hispanic fellows from the republican leadership institute. again, this is happening at

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