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i'll keep olympics going, pass it over. >> we do have breaking news out of syria. isis just released an official statement confirming the death of its top spokesperson. let's get to senior news editor cal perry. he's been following all of this. cal, what do we know? xx xxxx>> reporter: the importance cannot be understated of this top commander. this the man who not only disseminated isis ideology around the globe through these videotaped message. he was also the coordinator, logistical coordinator of attacks. he gave infamous speech in 2014 where he called for lone wolf attacks around the world. he was killed in aleppo visiting front lines. you're seeing him there on your
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screen. he really did fit the part of a spokesperson for the group. he would put out slick messages to followers around the world. one of the things we're trying to confirm is how he was killed. there are certain indications on some of the isis channels he may have been killed in a drone strike. that would certainly have chilling effect on the isis command structure. actionable human intelligence is something that's been very difficult to come by. u.s. military does not generally fly over aleppo. this would certainly be an indication that intelligence war against isis is getting more and more intense and that the u.s. is getting more and more action able intelligence, kate. >> monitoring what's happening overseas. thank you. i want to bring in terror unless evan kohlmann. last december a senior intelligence official said to nbc news, this guy is at the top
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of the list, the most wanted. would you agree with that assessment? >> played an outseized role, not just operations directed intentionally by isis but indirect, om mar -- omar mateen, the individual from orlando. it's important to realize that while the loss of individual commanders from isis or al qaeda, it doesn't end the battle, end the struggle. it's important to emphasize the deaths of important people do have a negative impact on organizations. if you look at al qaeda, al qaeda has really never recovered properly from the death of osama bin laden. it's never been the same. isis really began because of the death of al qaeda in iraq. the death of al qaeda in iraq came, among other reasons, because of the death of the founder, it morved into isis. we can't prophesies end of isis
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or the terror threat represented by isis. it's important to understand this guy good did play outsized role in their terror planning, outsized role including other people, primarily westerners, peel in other countries, to carry out home grown attacks in the name of isis. so the loss of this individual, his death, will undoubtedly have an impact on the organization. will it end the threat? no. there's reason to believe it will delay planning that they may have already began. this guy was the head of isis external operations. he was the person in charge of trying to plan major attacks in western countries. his loss will certainly do damage to that planning effort. >> ean coleman, thank you for that perspective, appreciate it. i want to turn to richard engel, foreign correspondent who joins us for the first time on msnbc. let me ask you your thoughts as you heard this news and what are your sources telling you, richard? >> well, the key question is how did he die?
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isis issued this somewhat vague statement saying he was martyred while surveying battle front against aleppo. was he killed? if so, by whom. martyrs suggest he was killed deliberately, but you never know. was there an accident? did the russians kill him? the russians have been carrying out operations against aleppo, so has the government of bashar al assad. was he inside aleppo? there's still a lot we don't know. until we assess how it went down we have to look at that question, how did he die. i spoke to a u.s. official just a short time ago, he said they are still assessing the effects, still trying to figure out what happened. not the indication that the u.s. had a lot of foreknowledge of this, not that there was some u.s. commander watching him and pulled the trigger. perhaps the u.s. killed him by
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accident or perhaps it was another party or perhaps he died making a bomb attack. it's very unclear at this stage. but he was a key figure. i think most recently he was significant for issuing a call to arms before the muslim holy month of ramadan. unfortunately that call to arms was taken up by many people and seen as connected to a spike in attacks in europe, here in istanbul, also some connected it to the orlando shooting in which the attacker pledged his allegiance to isis as well. >> richard, is there any significance in him dying reportedly in aleppo, in syria? did we know -- forgive my ignorance, did we know that's where he was operating this entire time? >> i don't think so. i don't think anyone would necessarily have known that. he didn't necessarily die in aleppo. this somewhat vague statement said he was monitoring operations against aleppo.
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one would assume he was monitoring them from somewhere near aleppo but didn't say specifically he was killed in the city. isis has been thrown out of aleppo. two other islamist groups have taken control of rebel controlled area in the city. isis does not have a big stronghold in aleppo anymore. in fact, isis has suffered a series of losses. the turks just pushed isis away from the turkish border. they have been taking losses in iraq. they have been losing several other key leaders. so i think we're seeing with this loss still somewhat unclear what happened, very unclear i would say, and the ter torls that they have been suffering, isis is having a very bad summer. that said, there are numerous threats out there that isis is planning attacks internationally. i've heard about threats against turkey. i've heard that they want to take revenge, that they want to
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replant their flag after having such a poor performance over the last several months on the battlefield. >> all right. richard engel, reporting from istanbul for us. thank you so much. well, of course, continue to monitor new developments, any new information we get about the circumstances surrounding the death of this individual, a high-level leader of isis. we're waiting for the pentagon to weigh in, waiting for the white house as well. for the moment let's turn to politics. we are ten weeks away from election day. primary palooza across the country. in arizona where senator john mccain is looking to avoid being that state's first sitting senator to lose sin the early 1950s. that's what he wants to avoid. he voted earlier today, presumably for himself. meanwhile we're getting set for donald trump's major immigration speech tomorrow, a chance to set the record straight after a fairly confusing two weeks on that subject. one of the big issues at hand, a
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deportation force, something trump talked about a lot at the start of his campaign. when asked his campaign and supporters seem to be shying away from giving a direct answer on that subject. >> why can't anybody in the campaign answer the question whether he's still in favor of deportation. >> i've said that many times. i said he hasn't talked about that in a long time. >> in favor or against it. >> not talked about it in a long time. >> why doesn't the campaign know whether a deportation force is part of his immigration policy? is it or is it not? >> it is part of it. we're going to learn more wednesday. >> there will be a deportation force. >> craig, i can't let the opportunity go to remind you hillary clinton hasn't had a press conference in 270 days. it would be great to know details of any of her plans. >> by the way, kellyanne conway will be on at 4:00 this afternoon, so we'll see if we can get another answer then. we have the trail covered as you see from the quad box washington state where donald trump will be
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tonight and washington and florida. let's begin with the trump campaign nbc's katy tur in organization where trump will campaign tonight. this big speech, we're zeroing in on it, it's happening tomorrow. you've been talking to sources. what do you know about what might be in that speech? >> we still don't know exactly what is going to be in that speech and whether or not donald trump will come back of supporting the idea of deportation forces or creating some sort of path if you don't want to call it legalization then some sort of legal status in this country. it's been very murky as you just laid out. his campaign it's self not able to say definitively what donald trump will be for when it comes to immigration policy. what we are hearing from sources, it will likely be one big thing. it's going to contrast donald trump's message and donald trump's ideas with that of hillary clinton saying that she's soft on the borders. she's for amnesty. she will allow potential
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terrorist in the country because she's so soft on borders. donald trump wants to paint himself as someone who will build walls and close down borders and safety of specifically american public. specifically whattel talk about, we have some indication, everify work site enforcement visa tracking, boost immigration judges, mandatory detention for those imprisoned and a plan for sanctuaries. we'll see if that's what donald trump addresses. we're also told this speech is very much a work in progress. >> katie, one follow-up question about michigan. we got word today that the trump campaign may start investing more in michigan. that hasn't happened yet and i don't think we know when it's going to happen but what does that tell you? >> we did get word on that. i want to pump the brakes. we don't have any indication they bought air time in michigan quite yet. we also heard they were going to spend $10 million on an ad buy in a number of battleground states.
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so far that $10 million has not been placed. the campaign says they will finish placing those ads and making buys today. until that happens talking about michigan is a little bit premature. if they do go up for a buy in michigan, it does indicate they are trying to make what had been traditionally blue states red. they believe in whether or not they are calling a 50-state strategy. they believe donald trump's message is going to be strong among those who are looking to better their lives, those who need job creation, those who feel like the status quo has not been beneficial to them. they do believe, kate, very strongly that the polls right now are not accurately depicting how well donald trump is doing. >> katy tur in washington following the candidate. katie, thanks so much. a trump surrogate under fire after tweeting a cartoon of hillary clinton in blackface. a warning, it is an image many viewers will find offensive. pastor mark burns later deleted the tweet and apologized, said he apologized if he offended
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anyone. he says the campaign didn't ask him to apologize. nbc producer reported, quote, senior trump aide says they don't plan to change pastor mark burns role in the camp after clinton blackface tweet. he often opens rallies. that's from our producer frank thorpe. let's bring in reverend al sharpton host of msnbc politics nation and president of the national action network. good to see you as always. >> good to see you. >> what do you make of all this? >> i think pastor burns is reflecting the kind of mocking and denouncing attitude of the trump campaign. the candidate has mocked people that are disabled. he's mocked women. he's mocked mexicans. so i think that pastor burns is operating in the spirit of donald trump. what is going to be interesting, do they get away with this
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attack rather than come forward with what they represent. rather than say to african-american community donald trump is appealing to, these are my policies, these are the things i propose to close the ememployment gap, close the wealth gap, deal with health care. i'm going it attack mrs. clinton, say democrats haven't done enough, taken you for granted. i never have to say what i'm going to do. he's going to a black church in detroit. he ought to bring with him employment records of trump organization. how many black employees have you ememployed? in atlantic city where you owned properties, other places, where are black executives in trump organizations, where are the black businesses you've contracted. don't come tell me how bad someone is you're running against and not tell me your record and your proposalproposa. mrs. clinton has gone to many organizations, churches and laid out hers. we want to hear trump's record,
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denouncing her or lampooning is not a record. >> pastor burns did apologize on periscope last night. i want to play a little of what he said. >> i'm going to -- i'm apologizing for the offensive picture many those was offensive. i'm not apologizing for the message it was carrying in reference to i still believe hillary clinton and the democratic party do pander after black people. i do believe we have been worse off eight years under democrat rule. >> in that apology, "he doesn't apologize for the message. he says hillary clinton is panned egg to black americans. >> that's the first apology we've heard from the trump campaign. the candidate has never apologized for very offense ifr things he's said about any number of things and any number of people and races. secondly, pandering, if she's laid out a policy as she has, if
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she's laid out a whole program that she concedes needs to change some of the things from the '90s in terms of criminal justice. she's toured with mothers of the brutality victims and gun violence. is that pandering? then tell me what mr. trump is going to do saturday when he comes with no program new york city policy and no track record. or maybe he'll bring records from discrimination suit a republican administration brought against him and his father's businesses. pandering is when you come empty handed and say don't look at me look at my opponent while i call them names. bloomberg said in new york -- and i'm a new yorker -- sounds like a con job. >> reverend sharpton, always great to have your perspective. thanks for coming in. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> after thebreak, a day in the life of hillary clinton's packed schedule. while she was at the state department. the meetings, travel, choreography of it all. i'll talk to the cnbc reporter who literally went through years of her calendar, thousands of
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pages. what did they reveal?
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ed. hillary clinton's calendar and schedules released by the state department. the documents give up close and personal look into hillary clinton's perm life. joining me ayman javers, what i learned reading 3,721 pages of hillary clinton's schedule. aside from your first line where you said it was exhausting to read the schedule, what did you learn? >> when you spend that much time with hillary clinton's minute by minute schedule, what you get is sort of this very intimate, voyeuristic look at her life. to me it was the little things, who the aides are she sees every
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day, who surrounds hillary clinton. huma abedin top aide to hillary clinton, you get the manifest for all the motor cade's hillary clinton rides in, all the trips around the world. one thing you see is assigned seating. hillary clinton and huma abedin ride together in the limo after every event. all the others go in staff car number two. you see importance of huma abedin in the daily life of hillary clinton in terms of running these foreign trips. that lends insight into this dynamic between those two political players. >> were you surprised by anything on the sell, anything you saw. >> there were a number of billionaires there. we were looking for big money donors. some famous faces, bill and melinda gates, george sores, from the open society institute, his foundation, talking to hillary clinton and aides and
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top people at the white house. it's not clear what the topic of the meeting is, all the people involved in the meeting and we list them all on cnbc.com are experts in russia or eurasia. >> not as many celebrities as i thought, ben affleck and others. you mentioned she left state department for brief unexplained appointments. do we have any idea what those are? >> yes, we have some guesses but i won't make them on the air because they could be wrong. some redactions they turned over. they ould out some sensitive. one thing they pulled out fairly regularly hillary clinton in the habit of leaving state department, driving to a location five minutes away from the state department, having about an hour meeting there and driving back to the state department. who she met with, where she
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went, all of that us redacted from the documents we obtained. so it's a bit of a mystery. what they did say state department justified redaction saying this in interagency work product development or attorney-client privilege. so one of the possibilities could be she was driving to meet with her lawyer and coming back on campus but we don't know. clinton campaign declined to answer questions about all that. >> that's going to have the conspiracy theorists going on that. >> somewhere five minutes away is where she went. >> eamon javers, we will post your article on my twitter feed. thanks so much for being with us. >> you bet. >> up next, are russian hackers trying to interfere with our presidential election? the warning from the fbi when we come back. you both have a perfect driving record. perfect. no tickets, no accidents... that is until one of you clips a food truck ruining your perfect record. yeah. now you would think your insurance company would cut you some slack, right? no, your insurance rates go through the roof.
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hacked, told dnc news they were confident russian authorities were behind the hack. new u.s. intelligence tells nbc news hackers in russia are behind two recent attempts to hack voters registration databases. correspondent pete williams is following this story. pete, what ku tell us? >> a couple of points. first what officials tell us, russia tried to get into voter online registration system in arizona and couldn't in late june and tried the same thing with more success in illinois in july. got about 1% of the data. didn't change anything, didn't erase or modify records. copied about 150, 200,000 names, which officials say is about 1% of the names. the first point is that these systems are entirely separate from the systems used to count votes. what state officials are saying, when do you something like you're looking at right now, you
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punch a card or put a piece of paper into an optical scanning machine like that, those machines aren't connected to anything. they are plugged into the wall. that's it. no way to hack into the individual voting machines. the only way to hack into anything would be when the individual machine votes are typed in and sent to some pla for election night reporting. but the individual machines put out a paper readout, and that isn't changed. so when the actual official count comes with the canvassing, that, they say, is relatively unhackable. the larger picture here u.s. tells us we're worried about is not so much the russians will try to hack into individual machines on election day, but this constant probing into individual candidates, individual campaigns, individual organizations like dnc, rnc, that the whole effort here is to try to undercut confidence in
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the election system. that may be what the gain really is here. they say that's a big change from the past. in the past intelligence agencies, russians, chinese, have been tapping into candidate systems and so forth but never with the goal to do anything except gather intelligence. this is something different they say. that's what they are most concerned about. not about the capability of russians to affect the election but more about the continual drum beat of stories about things that get hacked that could undermine voter confidence. that's the big concern. >> pete williams in washington for us. pete, thank you so much for that. appreciate it. after the break, it is primary day. we head out to arizona. john mccain facing his primary senate seat challenger today. how is the presidential election impacting his race. first a late night laugh from our friend jimmy fallon. >> donald trump is trying to turn his poll numbers around and recently told supporters if he's elected, the white house will
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his age. he just turned 80. let's turn to nbc's kelly o'donnell in arizona. mccain says he's confident about the outcome. is that the sense of the outcome there? >> confident for this stage, the primary. we're now at phoenix headquarters where the mccain team will hold their results party and watch tonight as those results come in when the polls go close. one of the things to be factors in here is that early voting is a part of what arizonans are allowed to do and that's been going on for some time. part of that happening before the challenger that you mentioned kelli ward was getting a lot of attention for her critiques of john mccain as being in washington too long, raising issues about his age. for the primary phase polling suggests mccain is way out front. turnout is important. so mccain talked about young volunteers who have been working to get voters to the polls or send in their ballots. what will be more crucial if he
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surpasses this primary hurdle, what comes in the fall. arizona is one of the states democrats are targeting for two things, trying to turn it to their column for hillary clinton and also trying to change the seat when senate control is up for grabs. there are plenty of opportunities around the country for democrats to pick up seats over republicans. arizona is one they are targeting, because a long-term incumbent can be vulnerable, john mccain says he's going to have to fight very, very hard and take nothing for grapted. kate. >> kelly o'donnell following that in arizona. thanks so much. for more of a sense on the political mood in arizona, i want to bring in someone who knows that state very well. jim sharp, host of arizona's morning news on ktr 92.3. jim, nice to see you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, kate. >> kelli ward has definitely gotten tank over the past few days. we mentioned she's really going after senator mccain for his age. how is that playing on the
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ground? >> you get some people rolling their eyes. i like to say she played the doctor card. she is a physician. to suggest senator mccain might not surviving when this term is finished up in six years. i assume people knows what she's talking about since she's a physician. i don't think senator mccain is facing much danger. he may face on some when he faces an kilpatrick. >> i was going to ask you about that. the polls show he's got leads and kelly referred to this, too, cnn poll shows mccain leading by 26 points over ward. you don't think this the problem but what about the general? what are voters saying to you? >> well, you know, it's going to be interesting. i think really honestly democratic sees arizona as turning a corner. we have nine congressional seats. at one point we have five democrats holding those seats. that's since flipped and it's five republicans now.
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i still think actually in a poll i was talking about this morning with a local pollster, hillary clinton leads by one percentage point. it's within the margin of error. everyone assuming donald trump would be killing it here. democrats seeing a real opportunity. i think they are going to pour a lot of resources into arizona. john mccain may have a heck of a fight this fall. just a quick note i worked on a campaign that opposed him in the last primary in 2010. >> j.d. hayworth. >> he managed to pull off, it was a three-way race in that primary and he won with 56% of the vote. john mccain is very tough to beat. >> he told kelly yesterday his name recognition is through the roof. everybody knows in arizona who john mccain is. >> he does -- everybody does. you know what, he's a rock star. when he walks around, when people run into him, they want to shake his hand. they want to thank him for h service, bag war hero. everybody, yeah, everybody knows john mccain's name here, probably even more so than
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donald trump's, believe it or not. >> when you think about the presidential and where we are right now. you've got mccain tap dancing with his support for trump but not loving trump all the time, where do most voters stand, do you think, in republican circles? are they ready to jump onto the trump train or not? >> that is a loaded question. i've still got friends who are geopolitical operatives, look, he's the nominee, we've got to go with him. some people holding their nose. some people are enthusiastic. but i think there's still a good surge of never trump. gary johnson is not doing as well here, the libertarian candidate as i might have thought he was. he's still around 8 or 9%. >> governor of the state next door. >> right. yeah, and libertarian candidate. i thought he might do better. i think people are going to end up holding their nose and voting for donald trump but i think hillary clinton, believe it or not, is going to make it very close here in arizona. that's why a lot of people are saying this might actually be a
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battleground state. >> they might send me back to tucson on phoenix, which i would be fine with. that would be great. >> maybe not this time of the year. >> more toward november, toward election day i'd be happy to be out there. >> exactly. >> i'll hit you up when i get there. jim sharp host of radio news. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> coming up a democrat and fellow war veteran like senator john mccain, now that friendship is strained over mccain's support of donald trump. we'll talk to a congressman from arizona reuben gallego. >> donald trump is a man who questions those that served our country, self-serving. that's not patriotic. service and sacrifice. donald trump says about senator mccain he, quote, likes people who weren't captured. as a marine, as an arizonan, as an american, i am offended. the lights go out.
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us at the break what's happening right now in arizona, one of the few people voting in primaries, that one in arizona especially interesting because of the challenge to john mccain on the republican side. there's another reason to pay attention as well. a campaign led by progressive group, people for the american way, dubbed trumppublicans. joining me democratic congressman reuben gallego. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> explain this movement, what it's all about. >> basically to remind people you can't separate the republican party from donald trump especially if you are openly supporting donald trump. there have been some very courageous republicans that have said they are not going to support him. they don't support his rhetoric, viewpoints and other republicans say, no, we're going down with the ship. if you are, you have to own it.
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>> you're a democrat. >> yes. >> i understand you've been friendly with john mccain, certainly a military guy your self. have you a lot in common with him. you specifically your group has identified him as trumppublican. you're going after him. why? >> a lot disappointed with john mccain. this is a man with integrity, served honorably and worked closely with hispanic community and because of election year politics decided to align himself with donald trump and not move away from donald trump. that's extremely disappointing to a lot of us. >> do you think he's changed his view because of donald trump. >> the john mccain we know wouldn't have supported donald trump in the past. he has done this rhetoric, too. he was a border, wall guy. after this he worked on immigration reform. now, again, aligning himself with donald trump and that's not
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acceptable. >> let me play devil's advocate. tomorrow is the big speech with donald trump in arizona where he talks about immigration policies. he has said again and again, he thinks the system is broken. fundamentally the way we deal with it, it doesn't work well. do you agree? >> we all agree it's broken but one way is not to throw rhetoric and make it look like the only solution is mass deportation. >> he may not say that tomorrow. we're getting the sense he may pull back from that. >> he's going to say everything but mass deportation but his actions and ideas are the same thing. he just won't use the words. it's not a very realistic understanding of what's happening along the border and other parts of the country. these are mixed families. parents that have u.s. citizen kids. any plan that separates families is never going to be workable and will never really happen in the united states. >> he also said, donald trump,
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this enforcement of immigration has been leniency unprecedented in american history. i assume you disagree with that completely. are the laws being enforced? >> as a matter of fact we've had largest amount of deportations in the last eight years even prior to that, 3 to 4 million people. at the same time you're destabilizing communities, you're separating families. all these kinds of things that are only going to cause more problems. at the same time there is no long-term solution. if you're deporting people but don't have a way for people to come back through temporary worker programs or reunify families you're going to continue to have this problem in the future. that's why donald trump and john mccain because he's supporting him aren't being realistic with immigration. >> you think by not supporting him you're helping kelli ward? >> i think kelli ward is a formidable opponent but no way in my opinion she had a chance of winning this primary.
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donald trump's speech tomorrow on immigration expected to set the record straight on his signature campaign issue. there has been some uncertainty in the last weeks regarding what his plan actually is. but does that really matter? joining me now washington editor for "the national review."
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great to see you. your latest piece, "why immigration hawks are not outraged by trump's about face." one part caught my eye, you describe trump as a rorschach test for many supporters. what they see is in the eye of the beholder? >> yeah. i think a lot of trump supporters throughout the primary season had seen in trump what they want to see. so gun rights advocates have seen in trump a defender of the second amendment. immigration hawks have seen fellow immigration hawks. his policies or beliefs about policies are difficult to discern. we're seeing that in particular about the issue of immigration, which many thought were central to his own beliefs and central to the primary cam maybe. >> if he comes out tomorrow and does not say deportation or does not draw a really hard line, you don't think that hurts him?
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>> from the outset trump saying he favored a deportation force was problematic even amongst ardent immigration hawks, hard line support eers of people who understand, favor strict legal immigration do not favor a deportation force. it's these peel around trump lately, telling him he needs to find a way to walk this back. that's one of the things that has created in trump all these sorts of problems. he's been all over the map, in essence fumbling an attempt to walk this back. >> is there anything he could say that would generate concern over his followers. anything they would come out with. >> policy wonks and immigration
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a case a case for the presidency and the only battleground is trending from blue to red and then iowa has gone democrat and this year the state very well may swing red once again with dald tr and nec. in today's episode of the up for grabs jacob has a unique look at the maize of issues in play. he is making his way from water lou, iowa he was yesterday where he is joining us in front of a corn maize. hey, jacob. >> reporter: well dub kate with the maze. i am aware here in iowa that people care about many issues other than agriculture and it's undeniable and in this county that everywhere that you turn there's corn and corn is the
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number one export and cash crop from the state. that's why i came skmehere and talked to voters on who is best. this is what they told me. when it comes to picking a president, swing states can be confusing. not as difficult as navigating the corn maze. hello. a little drizzle in the corn maze. hey guys. do you know who you're going vote for in november? >> absolutely. hillary. >> yourself? >> gary johnson. >> reporter: why not? i don't like either one of them? >> reporter: is this an issue? >> yeah, my dad is a farmer. >> reporter: who is your dad going to vote for? >> trump. >> i know a lot of people who don't vote and they're wanting to vote for trump because something about trump speaks to them. >> reporter: hello.
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looking to november, is there someone that you think will be suited to your needs? >> neither one of them. >> reporter: how come? >> ethinal is huge to a corn farmer. if we did not have it today, we would have corn piled everywhere. >> reporter: who is better at the moment? do you think that they know what ethinal is about? >> probably not. >> reporter: are you voting for trump? >> if i had to pick one of the two, it would be trump. >> reporter: mary? >> she says don't listen to us. it's her corn maze. >> i'm going listen to joan. >> i have to go with clinton. i just do. >> reporter: if they came to the corn maze, who is going to make it out first. >> neither. >> reporter: that's like me. i have to follow you out of
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here. kate, while it seems like an issue, it's the gasoline that goes into many of our cars in the country. it touches many of us in the country skpeech every day. >> jacob, i would be stuck in the corn maze. very interest to go get their perspective. if you live in a swing state by the way, jacob wants to pay you a visit and you can use the #up for grabs msnbc. john banner just posted this on the youtube page. he is crossing what he calls america's asphalt prairie at the wheel of freedom one. what an rv. love that video clip. it's my favorite of the day. that's going to do it for this hour. i will see you back here tomorrow and my colleague picks up the coverage from here and
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the trump manager joining him for an interview and up next. hey steve. that's my dream too. i want to do it some day. >> me too. maybe we can rent it. good afternoon. i am live in new york and the election now is exactly ten weeks from today. we're 70 days away from the election day and topping the agenda and the count down is on to what donald trump's campaign says is going to be a major spaech on the signature issue. >> i am looking forward to joining donald trump in arizona on wednesday. he is going to lay out his specification on immigration in the country. >> a lot of questions on if trump is going to change his tune. the big speech is set for tomorrow. we're going to talk to his campaign manager today. kelly anne conway is going to join us live. stay tuned for that. also on the agenda

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