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trump's big game in mexico. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. in the past hour, donald trump wrapped up what his campaign billed as a major speech on the topic of immigration. after a year of denigrating the mexican government and talking tough on illegal immigration and after weeks of raising questions about his shifting rhetoric on the subject, tonight trump laid out the details of his policy positions. on the key question on what to do about the millions of
undocumented immigrants in the country right now trump began the campaign that all of them must leave. tonight in his speech in arizona, trump said that anyone who entered the u.s. illegally would be subject to deportation. he said there would be only one true route to legal status, to return home and apply legally. he focused on illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. >> zero tolerance for criminal aliens. zero. zero. day one, my first hour in office those people are gone. [ cheering and applause ] >> and you can call it deported if you want. the press doesn't like that term. you can call it whatever the
hell you want. they're gone. we will terminate the obama administration's deadly -- and it is deadly -- non-enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminal aliens to freely roam our streets, walk around, do whatever they want to do, crime all over the place. that's over. that's over, folks. >> trump vowed there would be no amnesty under his presidency and he said the status of noncriminal undocumented immigrants would only be decided at some future point. >> there will be no amnesty. [ cheering and applause ] >> people will know that you can't just smuggle in, hunker down, and wait to be legalized. it's not going to work that way. those days are over. in several years, when we have accomplished all of our enforcement and deportation
goals and truly ended illegal immigration for good, including the construction of a great wall and the establishment of our new lawful immigration system, then and only then will we be in a position to consider the appropriate disposition of those individuals who remain. >> meanwhile, trump called for increasing the number of immigration enforcement officers, and he took an eyebrow-raising dig at hillary clinton. >> we are going to triple the number of i.c.e. deportation offices. i am going to create a new special deportation task force focused on identifying and quickly removing the most
dangerous criminal illegal immigrants in america who have evaded justice, just like hillary clinton has evaded justice. maybe they'll be able to deport her. >> so what did we learn tonight? hallie jackson covers the trump campaign. she joins us now from phoenix, that room from where trump just delivered the speech emptying out now. let's look for the headlines here. >> reporter: number one, no softening. he came out and threw red meat to a very fired up crowd here in arizona. number two, what to do with those undocumented immigrants in the country that have not committed crimes, trump said they had to go. potentially through different sets of laws could come back. not potentially come back, but anybody arrested of any crime, anybody who is here illegally cannot stay.
a couple of other headlines. number one, you've got this idea of a deportation task force that would exist now within i.c.e. kellyanne conway said he hasn't talked about a deportation force for months. well, he talked about it tonight and he explained where it was coming from and how it happened. he gave some detail about the wall. he said some areas it would have above and below ground sensors. the most notable part of the wall in his speech he had this moment where he said we're going to build a wall. there was a dramatic pause and then he said mexico is going to pay for it. notable because hours before this speech the mexican president made the point that he would not in fact pay for the wall. the speech i will say in this room very well received.
trump does clear on the outset. he said i'm not giving you a rally speech. i'm giving you a detailed policy speech. he could have lost the crowd. he did not. people here in phoenix were engaged. when you look at things like blocking funding for sanctuary cities, the question is how does he do it. he talked about building the wall. when he talked about wanting to repeal executive orders, there's still a number of questions on how trump would implement some of the policies he outlined in this speech tonight. >> hallie jackson in phoenix. thanks for that. today was a study in contrast. donald trump started the day on a very subdued diplomatic mission to mexico. he ended it with tonight's fiery speech on immigration. trump laying out stark differences between his vision and that of hillary clinton. take a listen. >> anyone who tells you that the
core issue is the needs of those living here illegally has simply spent too much time in washington. hillary clinton, for instance, talks constantly about her fears that families will be separated, but she's not talking about the american families who have been permanent separated from their loved ones because of a preventable homicide, because of a preventable death, because of murder. no, she's only talking about families who come here in violation of the law. >> all right. let's bring in "the washington post" national political reporter robert costa along with hugh hewitt and maria teresa kumar. the question here was clarity. would donald trump finally provide clarity after a few weeks of speculation of
softening on immigration. do you think he provided clarity tonight? do you think that clarity he provided, will it attract new voters that weren't already with him? >> he provided clarity from the beginning of the day to the end, i think, steve. it was his very best day of his presidential campaign. when you start with the morning, bad news for hillary clinton all over the place. her negatives are down in "the washington post" poll. obamacare is falling apart. 30 new concealed e-mails on benghazi. donald trump goes down to mexico, has a normal diplomatic engagement with the president of mexico, has a great press conference afterwards, takes questions, which secretary clinton won't take from the press in any setting, and then comes back and gives a very sophisticated speech that i think mirrors -- i did 170 interviews with active
republican presidential candidates. that was the mainstream policy what he articulated today. we'll do points one through ten first and then we'll talk about the other people. i think it is a softening. i think it was sophisticated and very powerful. >> maria, how about you? do you think there was a softening there at all in terms of how he addresses or didn't address the 11 million who are already here? >> first of all, there is no softening. he was basically speaking on both sides of his mouth as he was on both sides of the border. when he was in mexico today, he said undocumented immigration was a humanitarian issue. what he just heard from donald trump, there was nothing humanitarian about it. the fact that he is willing to round up 11 million people would break the bank of homeland security and whole economies in different states. he's not providing the leadership that we actually need to have in this country and recognize that we need to fix the immigration system because there are over 6 million americans who live with mixed status families. meaning they are living among
people who may not be able to come out of the shadows because they are undocumented. i have to give it to donald trump. he's consistent when it comes to understanding how to play the media and how to play with words. if you pay close attention to what he did with mexico today saying undocumented illegal immigration was a humanitarian issue and then this, i found it nothing short of hate speech. >> some people read the speech as donald trump leaving it open as he'll go after people with criminal records, people he deems as a security risk, and the status of people remaining after that would be kicked down the road. did you read it like that? >> he basically did a sliding scale. he espoused right now what president obama's situation
which is we're going to identify the criminals and get them first. then donald trump doubled down and said we're going to get everybody and make sure they leave the border. the idea of rounding up 11 million people would bankrupt homeland security. it's nearly impossible. it's also not an actual policy that would be sustainable. donald trump also said that the world is watching today. you bet they were watching. they were getting incredibly frightened. some of the stuff he doubled down on it was words we've heard before. deportation task force, extreme vetting, ideological certification. every single american should be completely alarmed with what they just heard.
>> trump also in this speech mentioned something he mentioned quite a bit during the campaign, the idea of building a wall but mexico paying for it. >> we will build a great wall along the southern border, and mexico will pay for the wall. they don't know it yet, but they're going to pay for the wall. and they're great people and great leaders, but they're going to pay for the wall. >> earlier today, the president of mexico assured his twitter followers that that would not be the case. mexico will not pay for trump's proposed wall, also saying he raised that issue in their meeting earlier today with trump. robert costa, let me ask you about the stark difference in tone from this afternoon what we saw in mexico city, donald trump extending his hand to the president of mexico, and in the tone of this speech tonight this was a hard line speech by definition of any standard. what did the campaign think they were accomplishing with that very different tone coming out of these two events? >> the trip to mexico was finalized over the weekend and then on monday and tuesday.
this was done by members of the family, particularly trump's son-in-law and trump's top advisers. they were trying to project with this trip some surprise and a presidential presentation and image for donald trump. the difference with the speech tonight is that as much as the presidential image making was going on with the trip to mexico trump's speech operation and his policy shop remains dominated by steven miller, the hard line conservative. sessions himself is uninfluential and steve bannon. they're pushing trump. they're suggesting that trump stick with his immigration position that he started at the beginning of his campaign. you have these many voices within trump's campaign trying to keep him where he's always been on immigration. >> we talk about it all the time. we just look at the demographic donald trump has faced in this campaign. he's lot a constituency.
he's been losing a constituency that's been pretty loyal to the republican party going back generations. that's college-educated white voters. you can't find a republican nominee losing them. donald trump is losing them right now in the polls to hillary clinton. the tone of his campaign has a lot to do with that. is any concern on your part that that tone plays into the concern with those voters? >> no, steven. he mentioned at least twice, maybe three times, the supreme court, which is an appeal to bedrock conservatives, to originalists, who have argued the court is in the balance. layered into this very detailed speech on immigration policy was
definitely woven some themes that he needs to do to accomplish his most important electoral thing. he is down five points over the course of the week. he had to bring up hillary's negative. he had to assure traditional republican base voters to come home. i think that robert would agree. i don't know if maria would agree with it, but she is probably not a traditional republican voter. they've had concerns about temperament. the trip to mexico and enforcement first, security first, finish the fence that was authorized in 2006 and never built is going to be very reassuring. i hope he keeps this tone. i see a lot more kellyanne conway in this speech than anyone. whoever wrote it gets gold stars because it definitely delivered. >> stay with us.
trump told his supporters to take a look at the new polls. here's an example of what he was talking about. new fox poll out tonight showing a tightening race, especially when you include gary johnson of the libertarians, jill stein of the green party. in the two-way race, clinton's lead over trump does expand to six points. she has lost a point in this poll, the fox news poll, while trump has gained three. we'll be right back after this.
welcome back to "hardball." after talk that donald trump might be softening on the issue of immigration, tonight he delivered an aggressive speech outlining his policies when it comes to deportations. trump said he would start with criminals on day one, but also said that anyone in the country illegally could be subject to deportation. take a look. >> anyone who has entered the united states illegally is subject to deportation. that is what it means to have laws and to have a country. otherwise we don't have a country. our enforcement priorities will include removing criminals, gang
members, security threats, visa overstays, public charges. that is, those relying on public welfare or straining the safety net along with millions of recent illegal arrivals. >> in his joint appearance with the mexican president, it was clear trump chose to avoid his hard line rhetoric in favor of a more diplomatic approach. let's take a look at the difference in tone in the trump we saw in mexico city earlier today and the trump we have seen on the campaign trail. >> it's been a tremendous honor and i call you a friend. thank you. >> they are not our friend, believe me. >> we did discuss the wall. we didn't discuss payment of the wall. >> i guarantee you they'll pay and they'll be very, very happy about it. >> cooperation toward achieving the shared objective -- and it will be shared -- of safety of all citizens is paramount.
>> every time they protest, it's going to go up a little bit higher. >> there's a lot of value that can be created for both countries by working beautifully together. >> i want to take our wealth back from china, from mexico, from all of these countries that have our wealth. they've taken it like we're a bunch of babies. >> we're back again with msnbc political analyst robert costa, hugh hewitt, and maria. wanted to give you a chance to say what you wanted to say. >> what we're seeing from trump is an echo of what he did a year ago in this same space, the phoenix convention center where he gave a hard line speech on immigration, made it the center of his candidacy. we've always talked about who was in his hear, who is advising
him. this speech was pure trump, who trump is. someone who has nationalistic impulses when it comes to immigration, going after illegal immigration. >> maria, the difference between then and now and last week and now when it comes to donald trump on this topic is today he did get the opportunity to share the stage with the head of state, with the president of mexico, offered some, i guess, some extra legitimacy by that. you always look at that plausible test they talk about when voters go into the voting booth can they see the candidate sitting there and performing the job of president. did the president of mexico do donald trump a favor in that regard? >> i'm scratching my head over that one. he has one of the lowest favorability in mexico. that made to sense to me quite frankly. but speaking about trying to be macho and being a man that can go toe to toe with someone,
donald trump was facing the president of mexico and didn't have the guts to ask him to pay for the wall. yet he says i'm going to make them pay for the wall after crossing the border. we keep treating donald trump like a traditional candidate. he is not. he is not someone that we have ever seen in modern times. the way he knows how to rile up a base, the way he knows how to talk in code and blow racial whistles so that all of a sudden everybody knows exactly what he's saying, but he doesn't have to say it out loud is incredibly dangerous. we have to stop treating him like an actual candidate. there's a reason there are over 100 republicans distancing themselves from him. what he stands for is so diametrically opposed to what america is. he is telling us he is going to create a second class of citizens and we should be okay with that. >> a piece of news in the last couple minutes to tell you about. this is from routers. the mexican president says that some of trump's policy stances
articulated tonight represent threats to mexico. again, this in the last few minutes the president of mexico saying some of what donald trump saying tonight represents a threat to his country. hugh hewitt, in terms of the fallout from that meeting, we have obviously these new comments from the president of mexico now. you have the controversy, if you want to call it that, where donald trump has talked and maria talked about how donald trump has spent the last year saying tonight represents a threat to his country. hugh hewitt, in terms of the fallout from that meeting, we have obviously these new comments from the president of mexico now. you have the controversy, if you want to call it that, where donald trump has talked and maria talked about how donald trump has spent the last year saying he's going to get mexico pay for this wall. then at the press conference says he didn't raise the issue. does he look bad at all because of that? >> steve, this was a 100% great day for donald trump.
we could dig around and try and find something bad to say about it, but everything went his way today. he talked about the rule of law. he struck at the executive orders. he began tonight's speech, by the way, complimenting the president of mexico, complimenting the mexican people, going out of his way to talk about mexican americans of first, second, and third generation. he did soften using the term priority, although he gave a vibrant speech on border enforcement and security. he challenged the media at the end to start telling the stories of those angel moms, those families. that was powerful stuff. i believe we can try and nibble around the edges, but as of this morning in the poll in wisconsin, that's the best poll in wisconsin, he's closed the gap to two points. if i look at florida, pennsylvania, ohio, new hampshire, nevada, and possibly wisconsin and michigan and iowa, that's where he's got to win.
i think the whole day today helped him in every one of those battleground states, every one. >> all right. thanks all for your time. up next, donald trump's base like what they heard tonight, but did trump win any new votes with what he said tonight? we're going to hear from surrogates of both campaigns. that's next. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
president obama and hillary clinton -- [ booing ] -- have engaged in gross dereliction of duty by surrendering the safety of the american people to open borders. you know it better than anybody right here in arizona. >> welcome back to "hardball." strong words from donald trump tonight accusing his rival and president obama of engaging in what he calls a dereliction of duty. meanwhile, earlier today, hillary clinton tweeted in response to trump's visit to mexico saying, trump just failed his first foreign test. diplomacy isn't as easy as it looks. trump's immigration speech and his unexpected visit to mexico, can trump manage to attract new voters while holding his base? joining me now is a democratic congressman.
he is a hillary clinton supporter. and a trump supporter and republican strategist. who watching that speech tonight who wasn't already a donald trump supporter was won over by that message? >> americans concerned about national security and concerned about jobs staying in the united states of america and staying security. you saw what happened with kate staley in san francisco. that has to happen. >> that's been his message from the very beginning. i mean, he's -- >> it's called consistency. >> he's trailing right now. he's the guy that needs more voters at this point. >> if you look at the polls, he is within the margin of error. l.a. tracking poll up two points. reuters tied. the voters see a binary trump between donald trump -- on
immigration, donald trump wants to make sure the country is protected. hillary clinton, open border policy. that's a very clear distinction. hillary clinton is the biggest failure in secretary of state history. >> the link boris is talking about, he said donald trump made a link between immigration, the economy, jobs, and national security. did he? >> nope. he's trying to do romney but harder. romney did not even get close to beating president obama. besides that, he looked ridiculous in mexico city.
going to a foreign country you can't espouse your values as wrong as your values are. it shows a certain level of cowardice that you can't go to another country and talk about your main talking about which is you want that country to pay for the wall. then to come back into the united states in phoenix and act like a tough guy. he's not ready for primetime. he was never ready for primetime and the american public knows it. >> this is a call and response thing donald trump does at his rallies. he was going to pay for the wall, mexico. the first question that was asked after this meeting with the mexican president is did you talk about paying for the wall. >> it was discussed, but not who would pay for it. >> the president of mexico said later, no, i told him we weren't going to pay for it. >> there was not a back and forth discussion. >> go ahead, sir. >> here's the bottom line. if donald trump went over there and gave a rally in front of the mexican president, the building would spontaneously combust. he's acted presidential just as
you're expected to do. he did the right thing by having a strong conversation with the president of mexico, talked about the main issues, talking about nafta, the fact that nafta is a 22-year-old agreement that needs to be renegotiated and building a wall. the president of mexico says that's a barrier we should talk about that needs to be there. it was a very strong meeting in mexico. then a couple hours later an extremely strong speech. contrast to hillary clinton's speech of 45 minutes in ohio that people slept through. what is she doing on the trail? absolutely nothing. >> is there anything in terms of the visual power for donald trump in trying to prove to people he can plausibly be president of the united states, as the head of state? the president of mexico getting to share the stage with him like that, did that increase donald
trump's stature at all? >> i don't think so. mexico is one of our friendliest allies and neighbors. he didn't even have the courage to actually talk in a diplomatic matter, by the way, his stances. presidents go to other countries -- you had your chance, sir. it's my turn. presidents go to other countries and have difficult conversations about their values and the presidency. clearly trump does not have that. he brought this up, but -- >> this is incorrect. >> at the end of the day, he acted like a coward. he came back to the united states and tried to act like a tough guy. >> those are pretty harsh words. >> appreciate both. thank you for the time tonight. up next, what did donald trump accomplish politically with the trip to mexico today and the fiery speech. the "hardball" roundtable is
since 2013 alone, the obama administration has allowed 300,000 criminal aliens to return back into united states communities. these are individuals -- [ booing ] -- encountered or identified by i.c.e. but who were not detained or processed for deportation because it wouldn't have been politically correct. [ booing ] >> my plan also includes cooperating closely with local jurisdictions to remove criminal aliens immediately. there's no common sense. there's no brain power in our
administration by our leader or our leaders. none. none, none, none. >> welcome back to "hardball." donald trump slammed the obama administration's policies. he said if elected, he would remove all illegal immigrants from the country. >> day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable physical, tall, powerful, beautiful southern border wall. [ cheering and applause ] >> we will use the best technology, including above and below ground sensors in tunnels -- remember that. above and below. above and below ground sensors, towers, aerial surveillance to find and dislocate tunnels to
keep out criminals and cartels. mexico will work with us. i really believe it. mexico will work with us. i absolutely believe it and especially after meeting with their wonderful, wonderful president today. i really believe they want to solve this problem along with us. >> hillary clinton's press secretary brian fallon tweeting in response the wall is a metaphor for trump's bid in presidency. divisive on its face and ultimately never going to happen. joining me now, the "hardball" roundtable. i'm trying to figure out here does this move the needle with anyone who wasn't already a trump supporter. if he is running from behind, he has to bring new supporters into
the fold. does this get him there? this was a very hard line speech. no question about it. this was a very hard line speech in terms of the policy, but it was married with rhetoric about respect for mexico, the idea of working with mexico, the fact that he had just had this meeting with the president of mexico. does that change the equation, do you think, for any of the voters who so far have been resistant to trump? >> i think this depends on how this is packaged tomorrow and in the coming days. i think his meeting earlier in the day was effective in terms of being diplomatic, showing a softer -- i shouldn't say softer, but a different kind of tone and approach. but then he talks about in his immigration speech tonight a much harder line. this was a republican primary speech. not even a republican primary speech.
this was very much a trump centered republican primary speech. if you're looking at that and then looking at the contrast of tonight, it kind of represents what we have seen from donald trump for the past several months. this kind of saying one thing in a policy speech that is planned and scripted and through his campaign, then at night going to rallies where he feels at his most -- in his comfort zone and just kind of letting loose on the hard line approach. i think these are two different kinds of things. >> fair. what i'm thinking of -- let's say the voter out there who might be inclined to vote for a republican, but didn't like the talk from trump of mexicans as rapists. the policy message is still there, but it is couched in maybe a slightly more diplomatic way. does that make a difference? >> wow. i don't know, but i will say that we're used to seeing foreign leaders come out of meetings and say we didn't agree on everything, but here is some areas of common interest.
he did that. he pulled it off. i think the most interesting part of his speech tonight was about legal immigration, his talk about revamping the legal immigration system. he's talking about the 1965 law that for the first time in decades or ever actually made it easy for non-europeans to come to the united states. it's changing the demographics of the country. no question. he said we need to get back to the historical percentages. he's speaking to americans that are looking at the future demographics of america and finding the country unrecognizable. that might be more americans than we'd like to admit. >> it is an interesting test. can you win? can you put a majority or a plurality with all the independent candidates? can you put a winning coalition together in the year 2016 on that kind of a message? >> i think he may be able to do it. i think he may have moved the needle a little bit tonight. i think we have to wait and see how this is played out. but what i think is so
disturbing about what we heard tonight is that it is factually untrue. much of what he said, yes, to your strategic political point plays to an audience. you can move the needle. he started out by saying he was going to tell the truth. then he launched into the fact that what? there's a record pace of illegal immigration in this country. blatantly untrue. it's been down since 2008. he talked about the fact that legal immigrants are talking jobs. patently untrue. they may play to a certain segment of the american public, but what is disturbing to me is they are simply not factually true. here's where we need to have a real conversation. the next 70 days that conversation won't be had. >> he's talking to people that don't know that much about immigration policy. >> absolutely. >> for instance, he's talking about the iraqis and the afghans that are coming.
those people are translators for the u.s. military who risk their lives for us, who risk their lives to help us win that war, and who would be killed, are being killed in those countries. to talk about them and say these people come from countries that don't respect women, that's just -- >> similarly syrian refugees. the same issue. these are not people who are coming over that are terrorists. there's no evidence that people coming here legally have turned into terrorists. crime is down in immigrant communities and up in native born communities, but nobody talks about that fact. so politically he's going to probably make headway here, but it is blatantly untrue. >> when he called the family members of the victims of those crimes onto the stage at the end to talk, the difference between the statistics and those human stories. up next, hillary clinton was on the attack against donald trump even before he touched down in mexico today. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
more praise from the far right for donald trump's speech tonight. ann coulter tweeting out god bless donald trump for refusing to go along with the number of 11 million illegals. it is at least 30 million. could be 60 million. i will watch the speech every night before i go to bed so i will sleep like a baby. be back right after this. i completely reject anyone,
i completely reject anyone, including my opponent who calls the american military -- and i quote -- a disaster. that is an insult to the men and women serving today and all who have served before who put their lives on the line. it's just not true. the last thing we need is a president who brings more name calling and temper tantrums to washington.
>> lost in all the trump news today was hillary clinton there speaking to the american legion convention in cincinnati, ohio. earlier today, she touted america's exceptionalism and took on donald trump's fitness to be commander and chief. >> just three weeks ago, 50 republican national security experts who served in prior republican administrations wrote a letter saying that they will not vote for donald trump because he would be in their words the most reckless president in american history. by contrast, i am deeply honored to have so many retired military leaders backing me along with these republican experts.
>> and back now with the roundtable. here's a question i'm kind of grappling with tonight. the two major events today, the trip to mexico city, the speech in arizona, which one is going to have more resonance? which one are people going to remember going forward? >> i think people will remember the trump visit to mexico just because of the surprise nature of it, because of the way it looked and the way it was staged and what happened there. i think clinton's speech earlier today is interesting so far as it is certainly a pitch to moderate republicans, independents. it shows some security on behalf of democrats that they feel like they have their base shored up. this is coming at a time that we see from tonight's speech that donald trump is still working on consolidating the republican base. >> she's really going after those voters that he's trying to win back, the traditional republican voters that he's been losing.
you were saying something interesting in the break. we all know donald trump, what he was trying to get out of this visit to mexico today, the appearance with the president down there. but you said the president of mexico had something to gain from this. what do you think that was? >> so i think americans are really focused on the wall, will it be built, who will pay for it, but the rest of the world is focused on trade and free trade and all the rhetoric coming out of both parties in the united states. and i think the president of mexico is sitting around hearing nafta be demonized. it is a threat to mexico. today he got the opportunity to speak directly to american voters about why nafta benefits them. he talked to us for, what, 11 minutes. and we listened to him why? because donald trump was standing next to him. in a way, it was a brilliant move for him to make the case for nafta to american voters directly. he just happened to have to have donald trump on the stage for us
to listen to him. >> from the clinton campaign standpoint, how did that handle today? >> i think the clinton campaign is going to be really challenged with what happened today with donald trump in mexico. that could have been fraught with disaster. he went down there. he was able to look presidential. the tweets that have come out from the president of mexico after may cause a little wrinkle, but that's a problem for the clinton campaign. and you add to that this speech, which i think has so many problems with in it and yet i think can also appeal to some moderates and some in the republican party that he needs. i think this could be a problem coupled with her sinking poll numbers and the tough fbi reports coming out, the e-mail scandal, and the clinton foundation. she should be doing far better than she is. i think they've got to be a little bit concerned tonight that he is getting some momentum back at a really important time
we're back with the "hardball" roundtable. tell me something i don't know. >> ohio is key to watch this week. hillary clinton was there. donald trump is going there tomorrow as is joe biden. clinton is going back over labor day with vice president tim kaine. as we see these shifting battlegrounds, ohio is keeping its status. >> the 2015 american value survey found 8 out of 10 trump supporters considered immigrants a burden on society compared to only 5 out of 10 republicans who supported other candidates. 7 out of 10 trump supporters got personally upset when they met immigrants who don't speak good english. that was also much higher than other republicans. >> we have to save yours for the
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