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good morning. i'm al sharpton. that's how donald trump has been speaking about minority groups over the past 14 months. but this weekend something new. after being criticized about talking about blacks to largely white audiences, he made his first visit to an african-american church in detroit. >> i will always support your church always and defend your right to worship. so important. i am here today to listen to your message. i just want to let you know that i am here to listen to you. >> trump was obviously outside of his comfort zone but he was respectful and was treated respectfully reading from his prepared notes, trump tried to address topics of concern to
african-american voters. >> i believe we need a civil rights agenda for our time. one that ensures the rights to a great education. so important. the right to live in safety and in peace and to have a really, really great job, a good paying job and one that you love to go to every morning. and that can happen. i fully understand that the african-american community has suffered from discrimination and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right. they will be made right. i want to make america prosperous for everyone. i want to make this city the economic envy of the world. we can do that. we can do that again. >> it's good that trump came and said he needs to do more than talk the talk. he has to walk the walk. that's what voters want.
photo-ops aren't enough. and we haven't seen specifics on much of anything. will his policies help or hurt african-americans? protesters outside the church were clear on what they thought. we'll have more on the politics in a moment. but first, let's bring in the pastor who hosted donald trump and interviewed him this weekend. bishop wayne t. jackson, senior pastor of the great faith ministries and co-founder of the impact network. bishop, thank you for being here this morning. what kind of reception did donald trump get from your congregation because he seemed a little uncomfortable. what was the reaction? >> he wasn't uncomfortable. when he came in as he said, he didn't know what to expect because it's been a lot of hospital hostility concerning
his candidacy in the african-american community. there were a lot of protesters out there protesting his appearance at the church, but he came in and did the interview. i did the interview with him. that's how it started. the interview was supposed to be and was with impact network and he wanted to sit down and speak to african-americans. we know that he's been speaking basically to white audience about us. so he was trying to find a place that he felt he would be treated fair and he came in and did an interview and he came into service and you know, reverend al, african-americans know how to have church. he got involved and felt comfortable there and my people received him because i teach love. i don't teach hate. i believe god is love. we may not agree but don't hate on each other. your hate is worse than my hate and my hate is worse than your
hate. >> in the interview, did he give any specific policies? he said he wants to see blacks prosper more. he said he wants to deal with discrimination. did he say how he was going to propose that be done in a specific way and did he say that he had done these things in the past because i have known trump 35 years in new york, good and bad, you know i led marches on him and been to events that he was more civil and we would talk in a way that was not as confrontational. but i don't know that he's ever been to a black church before. i've never seen him work with black business or black organizations in terms of social justice issues. did he get specific in the interview? >> you know, not being able to give all of the specifics of the interview, let me just start by saying this. i'm not a journalist.
i don't claim to be a journalist. i wanted to sit down with him to talk about key issues that i have concerns with and a lot of african-americans have concern with and that is shooting of unarmed black males. you have one side of the law that favors the white person who was charged and another one that's on the other side of african-americans and we can see clearly that we have seen african-americans shot in the back, running, pursuing a police officer. these are things that's concerning me as a father of nine children, grandfather of 19 grandchildren. you know, when you look at what just happened the other day, a young white boy gets out of jail. he gets six months for raping a girl unconscious girl and he didn't even do six months. i came from the streets. i understand law and all of that other stuff.
it's what frustrates people when you see he gets out of jail after doing three months. didn't even do six months. six months, you know -- >> did trump address any of this? did he say what he would do to deal with this inequality in your interview? >> the point of it was this. i was able -- they afforded me 30 minutes. i tried to get as much as i can his staff tried to stop the interview because we went over time and one thing i give him this much credit. he told them, wait a minute, let me get some more answers for bishop because his whole staff was moving him from one place to the other place. we did talk about things. we don't get into specific policy. >> did he say he was going to continue talking to you or other blacks or people that are involved where they would get down to specifics? >> exactly. i'm a preacher. i'm not a politician as i said. i asked him if he would talk to
you. i said these are men that you need to sit down and talk to you. i said would you talk to cornell brooks and naacp and the doctor from the national newspaper of publisher association. he said he would do that. you can talk to him about that. you're more schooled than me. i just think that this is a first step. we have to talk. we don't talk then we're going to have that distance and we need to sit down and even jesus said, come, let us reason together. we need to reason together because we're going to live in this country, we're going to sit on top. >> we do have to reason together but we have to repent. did he repent of any of the ugly venomous things that he's been saying? >> you know, i asked him about his christian faith. i asked him what did he feel about being a christian. he began to talk to us about that. you'll see the interview. the interview will come up. i really believe that he's
trying to come in and do what's right. again, i want everybody to understand this. if you go in my office, you will see nothing but democratic politicians on my wall from obama to clinton to gore to -- >> you said this is not political. i'm glad that you came as head of the church and as head of a network to make that clarification. i thank you for being here with us this morning. and i thank you for sharing with us and we'll watch what he says to you when the interview airs on impact. thank you, bishop. >> i hope you sit down and talk with him, reverend al. >> it's going to be a different kind of conversation. we'll see. thank you so much, bishop. >> you're welcome. >> joining me now for more on all of the trump minority outreach is president and ceo of
vote latino and also robert, msnbc contributor and former adviser to president bush. thank you both for being here. >> good morning. >> do you think trump's visit to a black church was as much about white voters as it was african-americans because he really didn't give any specifics. he didn't lay out any policies. he didn't address some of the bigoted stuff he's said about the president in terms of the birther stuff and what he said around latinos, women, even a disabled man. was this trying to appear to white voters that he's not racist without committing anything to minority voters? >> this is about white voters in the suburbs of detroit. obviously donald trump wants to win michigan. you're not going to do it by going into detroit. he's going to do it by going after white suburban women as i mentioned in the downstate of michigan and also outside of philadelphia and ohio. what you saw yesterday with donald trump was someone that
read from a script. he seemed to be overly humble. speaking only above a whisper. when i heard him speak, he appeared to be soft-spoken and very kind of, like, this is who i am. this is the new donald trump. >> he was reading. he wasn't just speaking. he was reading every word including scripture like it's the first time he saw it. >> to your point, what's interesting about him reading that script was he was in fact reading but every now and then he would put in a donald trumpism by adding that's a really good point or whatever the case may be. it didn't come across as sincere. i understand why he did it. the african-american people that were in that church yesterday and obviously it was very heavily scripted in terms of who got tickets and who didn't get tickets, they were respectful of him. they listened to his points. putting a positive spin on this, donald trump should give credit for going into detroit and for going into that church
yesterday. kudos for doing that. for your earlier point i heard you ask the question four separate times with the bishop, what about the specificity about anything. he didn't go there. he didn't go there. >> maria, let me play something for you why i'm in so many ways passionate about this. let me play something for you and get your reaction. >> so as i prepare to campaign all across the nation and in every community, i will have an opportunity to lay out my plans for economic change, which will be so good for detroit and so good for this community because we're going to bring jobs back. i will have a chance -- [ applause ] thank you. we're taking them back from mexico and everywhere else. they're gone. >> even when he seems to try to act as though he's reaching out, he still has to take a jab at
mexicans. i don't know what jobs he said we're taking back from mexico. i don't know blacks working in mexico. i don't know what he's talking about there. it seems like he just had as to take a shot at somebody. >> it's because what he's trying to do is create a wedge between the african-american community and the latino community. when he did that hateful speech in arizona, if you noticed, reverend, he kept talking about vouchers. nobody knew what he was talking about except again when he went to the church he started talking about the idea of school choice because he knows that education resonates strongly with the african-american community and he knows that it also reminding people that they're not where they want to be is because of the neighbor next door that looks brown. he's creating that wedge issue. that's why he's so dangerous. his composure yesterday in the african-american church was not that dissimilar from when he stood next to the president of mexico being sedated and on behave saying this is the person you're talking to and then the
only thing that was missing was for him to go into another nationalist rally right afterwards for americans to realize he doesn't change. >> let me ask you this, maria, because i'm out of time. when you look at the hispanic numbers in the polls, hillary clinton is at 65%. donald trump is at 24%. can trump really win with numbers like that? >> he can't. and mitt romney won with 27% and everybody in the republican party knows that's why they did that autopsy. he's just doing everything in the opposite because again trying to win the white vote and trying to create increasingly wedge issues within the african-american community and that's a danger. what he stands to is actually everything that is against america. if he really cares about the african-american community he would be talking about issues and talking about people that at the end of the day we talk about healing. not spewing hate. not talking about how the reason that they're in their plight is
because of their neighbor next door. it's incredibly dangerous. >> we are unfortunately out of time. maria and robert, thank you for being on this morning. thank you for your time. >> thank you. happy labor day. >> ahead, the lead poisoning crisis in indiana with generations of kids at risk. we'll talk to a mother whose children have been affected and later, one-on-one with sean combs on music, education and what's at stake in 2016. >> don't pacify yourself. revolutionize the game. make them come for our vote. using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit... veggies... and herbs needed to create a pop-up pick-your-own juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows... we have some of the freshest juice in town. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink
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it's a story we first brought you last month. an entire neighborhood built for decades ago on the site of a former lead factory. children have been poisoned. about 1,100 people have been told to move from their own homes for their safety. their homes will be demolished, but they're not getting the support they need to actually find a new place to live. now residents and investigators are demanding answers. chantal allen's daughter is one of the children in the complex that tested positive for lead. six times the safe limit. the test was a year ago but she didn't get the results until a few weeks ago. >> some residents tell us they can't find apartments with housing vouchers they've been offered. this woman is now trying to keep
her 8-month-old off the ground inside and outside. >> when east chicago said we had no knowledge of the contamination, the documents prove otherwise. >> we're learning tonight some of the contaminated lead may be inside the homes as well. >> now the epa says they're also finding high lead levels inside. 40 of the 70 units tested so far. >> joining me now is a resident of the housing complex. she's part of the federal housing complaint filed in this crisis. and the lead attorney, director of housing justice. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> i understand three of your kids have elevated levels of lead in their blood. first, how are they doing? >> they're okay.
it's just they are asking more questio questions. their behavior is starting to change. >> you've been ordered out of your home and told that they're going to demolish your home. where are you going to go? >> that's the same question i'm asking right now. how do you all expect for us to jump up and leave the place that we call home because the situation that you guys didn't handle properly. it's very devastating. i cry myself to sleep every night trying to figure out what safe place i'm going to find for my children. it's hard to find a safe place nowadays. >> kate what kind of support are the people being given? this is certainly no doing of their own. they're being told their homes are going to be demolished. what kind of support have they
been given? >> unfortunately they've been given very little support. and what support they've been given isn't formal. it's not structured. it's not written down so that we know that every resident is entitled to it. we are asking questions to this day who will get security depopd deposi deposits, will they be given help moving? help to identify new housing units for these families and at every point we're told we'll get back to you. families are moving out because they're scared and they feel that their children are unsafe to continue to live there. >> they've known about this situation for decades. this is not new information. why hasn't there been anything put in place to help these citizens and to get some emergency relief for them? >> those are the questions that we are asking.
why now? why wasn't this brought out earlier? why, most importantly, weren't these families directly informed about where they were living and the potential health consequences that had for themselves and their children. >> you know, your governor, the governor of indiana, mike pence, is running for vice president. he visited louisiana after the flood. has he visited you and any of those in his own state that are facing this lead poison crisis? have you seen the governor in east chicago and are you aware of him visiting you or any of the others that are situated in this crisis in his own state? >> no, sir. >> kate, have you heard of the governor coming there or dealing with this issue in a forthright manner? >> i'm not aware of governor pence's office being involved. i believe state senator lonnie
randolph has been in contact with his office. i don't know that anyone from his office has come to the site. >> according to the cdc, lead poisoning in kids can increase their risk for slow growth and development, learning and behavior problems, hearing and speech problems, brain damage. i mean, don't the children affected by this need and deserve long-term help in this matter? >> they absolutely do. this is a crisis similar to flint. we need to support these families for the long-term. this needs to be a multipart investment in the health and well-being of these families. >> what would you like to see done? you're a mother. some of your children already have high levels of lead poisoning. what would you like to see done? what would fairness and justice
look like to you in this matter? >> right now is to make sure that my kids on every level is okay as far as health, education and a place to lay their head. right now i'm not getting any of that. it's like, okay, they don't tell me what you should do for them to bring lead down. they're not giving me all of the information that i really need. what i really would like to see is for my kids to continue to be healthy but it will affect them in the long run. i would like for them to be in a neighborhood or something where it's livable and safe and right now it's not safe at all. they want us to go somewhere but we don't have any other place to go. >> shaunte o'berry and kate walz, thank you for your time. we hope the very best for you and your family and i promise we'll stay on this story. >> please do. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, the 2016 fight
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confident. >> we have a movement going on. just remember. it's going to be something special. and come november we are going to win this state. i have very little doubt. >> we're going to win the white house. >> let me bring in crystal ball and matt welch. thank you both for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> does the race really start on labor day or is the damage already done for trump? >> i think this is such a unique year in politics when you have a high voter turnout in the primary season. unprecedented television ratings. there's been a lot more information gobbled by voters so far just on pure entertainment level than before. i think there's probably less ability to swing things with the one exception of if there is some big negative news associated, not with donald
trump, but with hillary clinton. i don't think donald trump supporters are going anywhere. no matter what he's done, even when he's fallen behind, it hasn't been because he's losing support. it's been because hillary clinton has gained a little bit at his expense. >> what is trump banking on? is he banking on the debates? is he banking on an october surprise? what could he be banking on at this stage? >> i think it's got to be all of the above because as matt is pointing out, polls show that 9 out of 10 voters say they made up their mind and they're not changing their mind so there are few folks who are persuadable at this point. i think debates are going to be an incredibly pivotal moment. hillary clinton has been preparing extensively. you can't take donald trump for granted there either. he's such an unpredictable person. i think he's very hard for hillary clinton to prepare for, frankly. she is someone who thinks everything through and she's good at studying what she needs to know and reading the briefing
book. she can be caught off guard when hit with something unexpected. no one is more unpredictable than donald trump. >> that leads me to the question on how he'll handle the debates. how do you think he will handle it? let me show you how he's handled debates during the primaries against his primary opponents. >> let me talk. let me talk. quiet. a lot of times. i never attack him on his look and believe me there's plenty of subject matter right there. that i can tell you. don't worry about it little marco. you're the lying guy up here. >> my mom is the strongest woman i know. this is not about my family or his family. >> this guy is a joke artist and this guy is a liar. >> so that's trump during the primaries. >> classic. >> they tried to in many ways make him more presidential. i don't know how much i agree that they've succeeded.
he started reading from teleprompters now. you can't use teleprompters in a debate. what trump will we see and how do they try to restrain him if in fact there's no prompter, it's all spontaneous? >> i don't think that they're going to want to try to restrain him honestly. he's not going to do that. he can't. that's towel snapping stuff right there. that's not going to work in the general and against a woman of her age and stature. but what he will do is do what mitt romney did to barack obama in the first debate last time. he's going to look to step on her toes and push her back off the bat and wrong foot her because that's how you saw it in obama's face. he was unnerved. i think donald trump is going to bring some line of argument that he has not so far really brought or some level of accusation. >> i agree. the other thing that happened in that first debate which was not president obama's strongest is
they had done a good job of painting mitt romney as this monopoly man. the same thing has been done with trump. he's been his own worst enemy in that regard. the bar is set exceptionally low for him. if he comes in and does okay and doesn't fumble all over the place, people will say this is good. >> stay with us. still to come, hillary clinton's fund-raising is up but her popularity is down. we'll have that. plus, our interview with sean combs. it's the phillips' lady!
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weeks of headlines about her foundation and e-mails may be taking a toll. just 31% of voters now say clinton is honest and trustworthy. that's the same number that donald trump gets. 59% don't trust her. similar to trump at 61%. now trump is pouncing accusing clinton of ducking from tough questions about her ethics, asking why she hasn't been holding news conferences. >> as all of these revelations have been discovered, some this week, many this month, hillary clinton has been hiding. she's been hiding. where is she? >> back with me now matt welch and krystal ball. does clinton fuel perceptions
she has something to hide by not holding news conferences? >> first of all, i think we just figure out where she's been which is raising udles of dollars. what donald trump did is allowed her the space to go and do that because was dominating every news cycle and not in a positive way. i think it would behoove her to be more assessable. i don't think she can run out the clock to election day. i thought the speech she gave connecting the dots with trump's history of racist and bigoted comments and actions. i thought that was well done. i thought it was smart and aggressive and meant that conversation was about which candidate would be better for minority communities which is a great conversation for the clinton campaign. if they keep making smart moves like that they'll be really positioned for election day. >> was it smart for her to use large part of august fund-raising or should she have
been working on getting out there working on her approval numbers? >> as an american citizen, of course i say she should have been taking questions from journali journali journalists. one of the last press conference she said things contradicted by james comey when he released his investigation. that's not a good thing. she's looking to avoid bad black swan events. last ones will be the debates. she has a history of not expressing responsiveness to americans when they ask her about her work in government. that's a problem. that's why she's seen as nontrustworthy and it makes sense to me. >> a report late in the week that her advisers are prepping her for a landslide. how do you react to that? >> it's possible. i think that the nation is so divided. polls are going to continue to
tighten. it's going to be a close race. we certainly can't take anything for granted. that being said, look at the battleground states and look at pennsylvania and new hampshire two states there. up double digits. more paths to 270 than donald trump does. i don't think they can just sit back and say we got it in the bag. they have to be aggressive. has to be sure she's on her toes. >> can we really call it a landslide? >> that always dwindles. >> it hasn't. >> when election day comes, let's talk again. >> arizona is at play. who would have ever thought it? thanks and enjoy the rest of your labor day weekend. >> thank you. you too. >> next, the interview. sean combs opens up and gets serious about the 2016 presidential race.
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for nearly a quarter of a century, sean "diddy" combs has been in the public eye. now he's adding a new title. educator. i sat down with him recently to talk about all that and discovered he's still very willing to speak his mind even when it comes to presidential politics. you are not only a megastar and mogul, you have an education initiative. you opened a charter school in harlem for this. why was that important to you? >> i went to this after school program. i grew up in harlem. i just remember that extra attention that i would get by the tutors. it was something that was
needed. in an education system and inner city communities were so behind what was going on in other communities in westchester, other parts of the bronx and it was so disproportion that if it wasn't for a program like that, i wouldn't have been able to pass my grades and, you know, i wouldn't have been able to make it through school. so as years went by, i ran a marathon. education has always been important to me. i ran a marathon and we raised $3 million for new york city public school system. my thing was i had a lot of concerns and complaints about the educational system and how our children are treated. and i'm a person of action. instead of me talking about it, i wanted to go and work with the system and then show them a better way to do it and i just thank them for giving me a chance, but i'm coming to really
revolutionize the junior high or high school levels of education. i think that we have to prepare our kids for the realities of what's out there. we have to prepare them to be leaders. so those curriculums that are out there now are dated. that's not the times that we're in. and so as a community, if we don't update our curriculums just as curriculums are updated in connecticut and the rest of the parts of new york, then our children will constantly lag behind. this has that domino effect that people don't understand. it's that when they wonder what's going on, it's our conditions. you can't make no money unless you have an education. so it starts there. for me it starts there. and instead of talking about it, i want to do something about it. i'm very proud of to say today that i opened up my charter
school with dr. steven perry. it's called capital prep harlem. it's incredible. >> i'm telling you, it's awesome. i know the kind of influence you have. i've seen it all over the country. all over the world. you stayed out of the political stuff, but if you could tell either candidate -- i know you know mrs. clinton and you know trump. the importance of young people. what would you want them to know. i don't want you to get into politics. whoever the next president is, what do they need to do to help young people become successful? >> i think it's all about education. it's all about education and jobs and creating different programs for them to have opportunities. you know, it's hard to start your life after high school or college and you just can't get a job. and there's nothing really set up for you to be able to get out
there and to excel. so i think that number one they have to pay attention and have to speak to young people. if they don't, you know, i a lot of young people aren't going to show up. >> they have to get the right people to talk to young people. >> they're very disenfranchised. my number one thing to be honest is black people. i feel like we put president obama in the white house. when i look back, i just wanted more done for my people because that's the name of the game. this is politics. you put somebody in office you get in return the things that you care about for your communities. i think we got a little bit shortchanged. that's not knocking the president. a lot going on. he's done an excellent job, you know, but i think it's time to turn up the heat. the black vote is going to
decide who is the next president of the united states. i hope that -- >> turn up the heat. >> mrs. hillary clinton, you know, i hope she starts to directly talk to the black community. i just really -- it really makes me feel, you know almost hurt that our issues are not addressed and we're such a big part of the voting block. >> not just rhetoric but really address it. >> i got to ask you one thing before i let you go. >> i need to give you an announcement. i honestly think that heat has to be turned up so much that as a community we have to hold our vote. don't pacify yourself. revolution the game. make them come for our vote. it's a whole different strategy. i think we need to hold our vote. i don't believe any of them. >> all right. that's a big announcement.
all right. that's straight from the heart. >> you can get the vote. you're going to have to come get it. >> bring something with it to get it. >> you have to bring something with it. >> let me ask you this. i hear you saying on the music side this may be your last album and how is the tour going? >> yeah, the tour is great. >> you're sold out everywhere. i saw it in new orleans. unbelievable. >> it was great to perform the hits. my victory lap. i want to spend more time with my girls. they're getting bigger. every time i come off the road having to catch up and reconnect. that's not what i want. >> if this is your last album, you know i watched you speak at the commencement at howard where you went. you wouldn't be infringing on me, would you? i can't rap. >> i'll come to you for lessons.
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