tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC September 9, 2016 10:00pm-11:01pm PDT
you can -- you're about to learn donald trump's body mass index and what happened to the heel spurs that kept him out of vietnam. that does it for us tonight. >> rachel here is a strange thing, he now says he doesn't remember which heel. >> it was so terrible, he had to blot it out. >> but that's why you need the complete medical records. >> i look forward to getting them. >> i'm doing to stake out dr. oz's set. >> we have breaking news tonight about syria, which we'll bring you presently and we have breaking news from north dakota where one of the protesters trying to block construction of an oil pipeline near the reservation told me today "obama saved the day.""3 c1 but first, today donald trump found himself being attacked by elizabeth warren on the campaign
trail and left to defend himself without any help from congressional who have endorsed him. >> this time, on russian owned tv. >> if he says great things about me i'm going to say great things about him. >> he's a bad guy and trump is making him out like some golfing partner, come on. >> he can't get ennamered about the fact that putin is nice to him. >> what would ronald reagan say. >> she could walk in and shoot somebody with 20,000 people watching watching right smack in the middle of the heart and she couldn't be prosecuted. >> i am not here to talk about donald trump. >> let's talk about him for a minute. >> large orange elephant in the room. >> the one guy donald trump has nothing bad to say about his vladimir putin.
>> maybe he's afraid putin will cut off his supply of lives, i real lif don't know what's going on. >> thank you all. do you have a response to donald trump. >> this is the last word on campaign 2016. >> breaking news on syria tonight that the united states, joint military -- donald trump did not know that tonight when just over an hour ago he said this. >> i'll tell you this, if we got along with russia, that wouldn't be so bad, would it? that wouldn't be so bad. and if russia, which has a huge isis problem also, wants to help us get rid of isis and wants to spend billions and billions of dollars along with us when
getting rid of isis, i'm all for it, folks. that must mean he's all for what john kerry achieved today. he would be congratulating john kerry and negotiated the deal. the targeting is suppose to be in on monday in syria. donald trump ended his campaign week tonight with a particularly unhinged performance on a stage in pensacola, florida where he said this about hillary clinton. >> because she's being so protected. she could walk into this arena right now and shoot somebody with 20,000 people watching right smack in the middle of the heart, and she wouldn't be prosecuted, okay. that's what's happened. that's what's happened to our country. i never thought i'd see the day when this is happening to our country.
>> he does not have to say one true thing to his audiences, not one true thing, ever. the first american presidential candidate in history to run on a platform that includes praise of a russian dictator. creates new problems for republicans every day. marco rubio, who was in a tough re-election campaign in florida separated himself from donald trump and vladimir putin today. >> vladimir putin is not a president, he's a dictator. he may carry the title of president but he's a dictator. i have tremendous agreements with president obama, huge differences, but vladimir putin is not a president, he's a dictator. that doesn't mean that i don't recognize him for what he is which is a thug and tyrant. >> john mccain has never had a kind word for vladimir putin tries every day, as he did
today, to not talk about donald trump. >> given the performances, plural, this week of donald trump, are you still convinced that he's the best choice for national security. >> i've supported the nominee of the party. next question. i honestly, i am not here to talk about donald trump. >> republican speaker of the house paul ryan had to deliver the republican party line about vladimir putin. >> let me say this about putin. he's an aggressor that does not share interest. vladimir putin is violating the sovereignty of neighboring countries, it's certainly appears that he's conducting state sponsored cyber attacks and what appears to be our political system. that is not acting in our interest and that is adversary yal stance and he's acting like an adversary.
>> i'll leave it at that. >> it was a simple yes or no question. and after the nbc commander in chief forum, are you paul ryan, still comfortable voting for donald trump as commander in chief? and paul ryan could not bring himself to say one simple word "yes." because, among other things, in that forum, donald trump said this about vladimir putin. >> i've already said, he is really very much of a leader. i mean, you can say oh isn't that a terrible thing. the man has strong control over the country. it's a different system and i don't happen to like the system, but certainly in that system he's been a leader far more than our president. >> donald trump's running mate mike pence who hopes to have a life in politics after donald trump distanced himself from donald trump today, first mike pence humiliated donald trump by
releasing ten years of pence family tax returns after receiving his first intelligence briefing, mike pence showed donald trump how to talk about an intelligence briefing, or, i should say, how not to talk about an intelligence briefing. >> i'm truly grateful for all the national security personnel that made themselves available today for what was a thorough and informative briefing. clearly i'm out of a deep respect for the classified nature of the briefing, i cannot comment on the topics that were covered. >> republican rudolph guiliani who has supported donald trump in many of the unhinged falsehoods he has advanced this year. decided yesterday on hard ball, he just couldn't play the trump game about president obama's birth. >> donald trump believes now
that he was born in the united states. but that issue was raised -- >> when is he going to say it. >> that issue was raised by -- >> this is a fundamentalal question mr. mayor, is the president of the united states legitimate or not, if you believe it, why doesn't your candidate state it. >> i believe it, he believes it, we all believe it. >> if the trump campaign believes that donald trump's years of relentless lying about president obama's birth could just be erased in a moment on "hardball" by rudy guiliani, they were sadly mistaken. >> rudy goes on and he says, donald trump now will say that he believes that president obama was born in hawaii. he doesn't say it himself, why not? >> so, he believes president obama was born here.
>> joining us now, rick wilson, republican strategist who is a contributor the web site, he's also an -- tim miller is also with us. he was involved in the never trump movement and former communications director for the jeb 2016 campaign. also with us philip, political reporter. to kellyanne's moment, where you ask the campaign manager, high level campaign representative, what the candidate thinks about something and she says, her actual answer, she does this all the time is, you'll have to ask him. >> i mean, and this is about elementary things like the president's birth, in this case, you'll have to ask him. what kind of campaign is that where the campaign manager, first of all, says you have to ask him knowing that you can't
ask him because he won't do an interview on your show or you have to ask him because i have no idea what my candidate thinks. >> right. this is baghdad kelly. i mean, she's trying to make this reality distortion field where the trump lived in where they literally don't want to hear a single word that is contrary to whatever weird vision donald trump has that day. so because of that, you end up with things that these absurdities like birtherism that was a sucker bet from the beginning that donald trump is one of the last people touting that because of roger stone and he were conspiring one day and roger giggled and rubbed his hands together and said i can get the real birth certificate from kenya. as a way, he thought to validate himself with the tea party conservatives, et cetera. it's nuts. and kelly is out there every day, like i said, it's baghdad kelly at this point. she's completely trying to not
her head up and down long enough and hope donald trump doesn't say something about aliens or lizard people and hillary clinton. i mean, this is debt separate and it's painful to watch. you know, she's obviously decided she's going to go down with the ship. >> i don't have the pleasure of watching donald trump's friday night speeches and i've discovered they are, apparently, the most unhinged. tonight just within the last hour he established a new principle of war for the united states of america and that is we'll go to war of a gesture. in this case, war with iran. let's listen to what he just said about what he's willing to go to war over. >> by the way, with iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats and they make gestures that are people that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water. >> okay.
believe me. [ applause ] >> so philip, that officially is lunacy by any description. there's no even handed cool anchor man way to describe what we just heard. we just heard a lunatic say, if little boats and people on them make gestures to american destroyers, that's an act of war, we will start a shooting war with iran over that. >> i think this is all very much off of piece of putin thing and piece with donald trump's campaign. he's protecting himself as a tough guy. that his mean m.o. when it comes to talking about foreign policy. he's tough. we've heard this when he's talking about the use of water boarding. we've heard it when he's saying, we just saw him talk about vladimir putin is a strong leader. that is the sort of leader donald trump envisions himself as, not as a leader who is negotiated in all of congress
and figuring out how to pass policy and strong authorityian soot of leader. this is not him making a considered look at how to deal with the iranian threat that might exist in the gulf, it is instead him being as tough as he possibly can. >> the problem with that, tim miller, is how do we know. >> i mean, philip is doing what a reasonable person would do, a reasonable person would listen to that and say, no reasonable human being could ever mean that, the trouble is an unhinged mad man just said it into a microphone during his presidential campaign in public within the last two months of the campaign where he's trying to convince the american voters that he should be the commander in chief. it's in the week of the commander in chief forum and this unhinged lunatic says, if people in their little boats make gestures to anyone on our destroyers, they will be shot
heard the republicans talking, no matter what you think about the need for all the down ticket republicans to win, i agree with strongly, you can't trust donald trump at all and you absolutely cannot support him. >> and this is what i believe president obama was referring when he talked about him being graded on a curve. it's unlikely that newspapers coast to coast tomorrow will have giant headlines saying donald trump will go to war over a gesture. it is very unlikely that any of that will be in a headline if it's quoted, it will be buried somewhere down in the story somewhere because we're taking the madness for granted now. we're taking the unhinged insanity to just be part of the language and the music of this campaign, a little bit like the rolling stones music he plays at the end of the speech. this is the normalization of political insanity right before our eyes.
>> lawrence, you know, to quote -- to modify daniel patrick, this is defining lunacy down. and the things that would have disqualified at any prior campaign and any sensible environment are things that donald trump feeds his base who are less educated, who are unable to process the sort of sofisticated problems that would occur if you randomly started shooting people out of the water and if you give a crazy person, a man who is unhinged, who probably could not qualify for the slightest version of any security clearance control over the arsenal. this is a guy who is so completely detached from reality and unfortunately there's been a responsibility failure in the press to stop the show every day and say, wait a second, we're not covering the crazy rally, we'll go back and talk about the utterly insane thing you just said, mr. trump. and until you start answering
questions like a rational person, we're not going to play this game any more. they won't do that and can't do that at this point. it would have been a due diligence thing of the american media a year ago. >> what about that, philip, the media's challenge here, since we've never had a candidate like this, he, you know, he tests our limits, he tests our techniques every day? >> sure, it's absolutely true. to your point about grading on the curve f you have a kid in your class that keep flunking tests, if you keep grading him on the curve, it kind of throws the curve out of the window. part of the problem, they've happened one after another, it's hard for us to dive deep into one thing he's done because he's done something shortly there after. if you look at what happened over the course of the conventions and khan family, things backed up so quickly, it's hard to sit and actually take each thing out and say this is a weird thing that happened that we need to process fully
because something else as weird or weirder happened shortly there after. not to make excuses that's what he said something that's uncommon is should be that something that is causes a lot of concern for a lot of people to be his objective as i can as sitting here. and you're right, that it is not, however, something that is totally abnormal for donald trump and therefore it is not totally abnormal. >> we've been over it a year here. thank you both very much for joining us. rick wilson hang around we'll do more. coming up elizabeth warren campaign for hillary clinton today and took her campaign audience on a tour of how she said donald trump compromised prosecutors who were beginning to takk a look at trump university. president obama intervened to stop construction of the oil pipeline near the standing rock sioux reservation in north dakota.
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>> you're kidding? >> no. >> it's in syria. it's the ep center of the refugee crisis. >> okay, got it. got it. >> the washington post editorial today pointed out that gary johnson then went on to offer "a relatively summary of u.s. support for various syrian factions" the editorial went on to contrast the aleppo moment and the quick apology for it with donald trump's staggering array of ignorant and mendacious assertions for which he's never apologized or expressed any regret. the last word staff has spent two days since the aleppo moment searching for a single instance of donald trump ever having used the word "aleppo" in a sentence. we found none. there's no evidence that the republican nominee who is currently running a close second in the polls and tied with
hillary clinton in some polls, had any understanding of what aleppo is or where it is before gary johnson's aleppo moment. if he had been lured into the trap himself, it would have been the smallest stumble of his campaign. how does not recognizing the aleppo, without context, compare to the actual policy positions of donald trump? joining us now johnny pierce, back with us rick wilson. charlie, one of my favorite moments in the aleppo tape is when mike says, are you kidding me? which i have wanted every trump interviewer to say after in the middle of every trump answer all year. >> i think it should predicate every question. mr. trump, i know you're going to be kidding me, but here is my question. [ laughter ] >> as your dad use to say in the
courtroom, we will stipulate that what you're saying is going to be nonsense, let's ask the question. >> i want to go to one of the items that is far worse than the johnson moment on aleppo. this is something that matt brought up the other night. donald trump's attitude toward sexual assault
in the military. let's look at this. >> in 2013 on this subject you tweeted this "26,000 unreported sexual assaults in the military, only 238 convictions, what did these geniuses expect when they put men and women together? >> it's a correct tweet. >> rick wilson, not only know apology for the tweet, he just keeps going with it. >> collapse into a sing lairty. there's nothing about this guy
that -- there's nothing inside of his brain or his conscience that ever says, hey, maybe i need to not say this, everything for him is in the immediate moment because he thinks he's always right. so there's no -- this is, like, a lot of sociopaths, he just processes the current crisis that moves forward from it without any sort of moral way to it at all. you see this kind of thing over and over again where he's wrong. even when he's called out on being wrong or being egregious, he continues on his merry way, he's never been held to account. this is a five-year-old trapped in a 70-year-old's bloated body. he acts just like a five-year-old. he always wants his candy. he always wants to be right about everything and he screams for mommy if he doesn't get his way. >> we'll stipulate this is one of those segments where we could use 100 examples, so staying on the tip of the iceberg, he, of course, is in favor of murdering the
families of terrorists.
i want to go to hillary clinton talking about that in the context of going out osama bin laden. >> yes. every second counted. but still our seals took the time to move the women and children, bin laden's family members, so safety before destroying the helicopter. that is what honor looks like. that is america at our best. [ applause ] >> and charlie, donald trump, doesn't understand a word she just said. >> no, of course not because it's spoken in the language of logic and reason which he has not gotten rosetta stone. george w. bush took care of his
family flying them out of the country after 9/11. we've moved on from that, i want. >> we're out of time. i wanted to give the aleppo moment in context. rick wilson and charlie pierce, thank you both for joining us. appreciate it. coming up, elizabeth warren is going to take us on a tour of trump university. today sarah's class is reading my most celebrated work, hamlet.
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today. >> now, trump have one other move to deal with his so-called university. that's when the complete started piling up and law enforcement started closing in on him, the trump foundation made an illegal 25,000-dollar campaign contribution to the florida attorney general to make the investigation go away. and that works so well, he made a big contribution to the texas republican attorney general when texas conveniently dropped their trump u investigation. what kind of a man breaks the law to make illegal contributions to make his fraud investigations go away. well, i'll tell you what kind of a man and he's small, insecure
money grubber who will never be president of the united states. [ applause ] >> joining us now nancy jazz and president and ceo of voter latino. professor elizabeth warren cares about this university fraud case very personally. >> she's a real professor of a real university and this is just fraud ov fraud over fraud and she's saying what kind of man -- man, what kind of system gets away with that, it's staggering. >> and in florida where you are, maria, the tampa bay times today editorial said that since florida prosecutors will not touch this mess, the justice department is the only option, the appearance of something more than a coincidence is too serious and the unresolved are too numerous to accept blanket
denials without more digging than an independent review. what's the reaction in florida. >> i think everybody is scratching their head, even folks that are normally republican are saying how is this guy on the top of the ticket. it's pretty wild. but when elizabeth warren says what kind of guy? are you kidding me, his own interest. the fact that he created, he wrote a check from his charity, he's looking for a tax deduction off of this, that's pretty wild, lawrence. >> pretty crafty, actually. >> i mean, that's wild. >> but the way elizabeth warren focuses when she brings it down to that -- what kind of man breaks the law to make an illegal contribution to make his fraud investigations go away, right? >> and this is the guy who always said when i make these political contributions i get what i want from a politician. >> he's completely said it and this is the proof of it. it really does stop you in your
tracks and make you think about just the -- that's not the best grammatical choice, but the ickeyness of this guy and the sleaziness of what he represents. >> he would use his foundation to make illegal contributions and hoping no one was going to catch him so he can go ahead and get a tax deduction. that's incredibly unsavory. >> it's a business-man's tactic. >> we need a break from the sleaziness. so we'll -- >> that's november 8th. >> i guess so. >> well you can take a deep breath for the next minute or two and we'll be right back.
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appearing on russian television. [ llughter ] >> you know, every day that goes by, this just becomes more and more of a reality television reality show. it's not a serious presidential campaign. and it is beyond one's imagination to have a candidate for president praising a russian -- and he's in with him in the way that he has approved of his wish list and not even really understanding what putin has already done like invading and occupying crimea. and we are living in challenging times and that's certainly was reinforced by the excellent
discussion we had today. no one who wants to assume the responsibility of being president and commander in chief should be making the kind of reckless and dangerous statements and identifying with a regime that has some aggressive tendencies toward our interests, our values, our friends and allies. so, can i say i was surprised, i'm not sure anything surprises us any more, but i was certainly disappointed that someooe who is running as president of the united states would continue this unseemly identification and praise of the russian president and including the -- >> maria trace, hillary clinton has a unique burden, no other man before her has had to answer questions about anything as crazy as the trump campaign, 31
including today, how about your opponent getting tricked by larry king master mind. >> it was pretty wild. and she landed that. she said when was the last time that anyone would support a foreign government that has been so hostile to the united states, especially someone that has such a shady background as vladimir putin. and the fact that this person is leading and wants to be president of the united states is actually so anti-american that she has such a hard time. the way she delivered her statement today, it was so connected not only with her audience i think it was different side of hillary and one to say, look, we're not playing any more. we're really trying to figure out where we want to go for the next 25 years and the stakes got higher because you have someone on the other side of the ticket that's not a traditional ticket. this is not a typical or political race.
this is -- what's he got. >> you know, the thing that struck me is the plain seriousness of what she said and i feel as much as anybody else, i think i've gotten a little caught up in the joke that is donald trump and the story that is donald trump and the absurdity. but the bottom line is, this is a scarey situation and this is a real insulting dude who could take the head of the kgb because he stands around a shirt and that's the kind of guy he identifies with and wants to be. it's so insulting i can barely breathe. >> thank you both for joining us. coming up, president obama stepped in today on the side of the protesters at the standing rock sioux reservation.
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standing rock sioux reservation in north dakota in opposition of the oil pipeline there. president obama, today, ordered a stop to the construction of that pipeline in that area. the standing rock sioux tribe chairman, that is planned to run from north dakota down to central illinois, the tribe suffered a major loss in federal court this afternoon when a judge ruled that the construction could proceed, but just minutes after that in a dramatic move that no one anticipated, the obama administration announced coordinated action that would at least temporarily stop construction of the pipeline at the protest location. the pipeline is designed to run under ground and under the river. when it's fully operational, 450,000 barrels of oil will run under the missouri river every day. the tripe insists that the pipeline cannot be built without stroying sacred sites on oil and risking oil damage to the river. last friday the tribe filed new information in the case
identifying sacred sites in the path of the pipeline and the very next day the construction company sent bulldozers to those specific sites when the protesters tried to stop the bulldozers from destroying the sites, they used attack dogs to try to control the dogs. amy goodman was there and captured video showing the bloody mouths of dogs after biting protesters yesterday the governor, strong supporter of both donald trump and the pipeline ordered the national guard to patrol the protested area in anticipation of today's ruling by the federal judge. the tribe has been struggling from the start to get media and political attention outside of the north dakota where both senators, democrat and republican alonggwith the governor and state of one member, also republican, fully support the pipeline. tuesday, president obama was finally asked about the pipeline for the first time, not by a member of the traveling white house press core, but by a
student at the university on the other side of the pacific ocean in laos. president obama said he was not aware of the details of the case but he also said this, this issue of an sesancestoral lands help them preserve their way of life we've worked hard on. some are caught up with laws and treaties and so i can't give you details on this particular case, i'd have to go back to my staff and find out how are we doing on this one. >> the president apparently put the staff to work today at high speed. he landed back in washington after midnight. today's announcement stopping the construction was clearly coordinated in detail by the white house. it was issued as a joint statement from the department of justice, the department of the army and the department of the interior. the army core of engineers controlled some of the pipeline routes.
they said the army core of engineers decision to allow construction of the pipeline will be reconsidered and the statement made a more general point, this case has highlighted the need for a serious discussion on whether there should be nationwide reform with respect to considering tribe views on these types of infrastructure projects. we've asked donald trump and hillary clinton if they support the president's actions today. we have not yet received response from the trump or clinton campaign. the protesters at standing rock call themselves protectors. the protectors of the sacred sites. the tribes, of course, were this country's first protectors of the environment. our first environmentalists long before anyone else thought there was something sacred, something worry of protection in our land and in our waters. today, one of the protectors, rebecca grey bull told me at first the judge's decision to allow the construction was "like a knife in the gut" she then said, i am ecstatic and grateful
that obama saved the day for us here. this is just the beginning, she said. we are bunkering down for winter. the standing rock sue reservation is a special place, they visited there in 2014. the chairman of the tribe, dave, had the honor of escorting the president and mrs. obama on their visit and we are honored the chairman is joining us once again tonight from north dakota. chairman, tell us the reaction there when you got the word that the obama administration was intervening? >> i was -- it was a disappointment when i heard the ruling of the judge and then after i got notice of what the administration was doing, i wasn't sure if it was accurate or not, but it was a good feeling to start to think that the courage that these people in
that administration and these agencies stepped up and they answered a call and they know that public policy is something that needs to be reformed so that we can better ensure the protection of indigenous people and indigenous rights. >> you know, we asked the white house just what the president's involvement was in this and they wouldn't give us any response to that. but you have to wonder because you got the word out and you got the word out worldwide, someone stood up in laos at a university on the other side of the world and asked the president a question about this just yesterday before he got on the plane flying back here. and he said then and to that student in response, that he was going to look into this with his staff and this was the day they had to really look into it. >> you know, we've been working at informing everybody, including the white house, all the agencies of the injustices
that were taking place and they -- when i heard the president's remarks in laos, i immediately called the white house and said, you have the information, you can share it with him now. >> and, dave, tell us about the president's time when he visited you there, you told me about it last weekend when i was there. you feel free to make public about your conversations with him and what he experienced there when he was at your reservation. >> well, i -- when i had the president here, there was a couple of things that i wanted to make sure happened, i wanted him to experience the reality of what takes place and i wanted him to see a little bit of our culture. the reality we have a high rate of poverty and all the symptoms that come with poverty. and the kids who were able to share the story that is relayed that message for us and but we also have a beautiful way of
life and through our dances and songs, i felt that we left an impression on the first lady and the president. >> what's the feeling at the protest camp tonight. just a week ago tonight you and i were there at this very hour and i'm just imagining things were tense then, that was the day before they let the dogs go after the protectors who went up the road a little bit there. tonight must be a very special feeling in the camp. >> you know, i stopped in there just before i came back here and people are happy. people are proud of what the agencies are doing and that they're stepping up -- it's a good feeling all the way around. there are a lot of tribes still coming in, i will say, there's -- it grew since you have been there, there's probably about
5,000 people there now and there's a lot of rain today, but it doesn't sp them. they're still coming and they want to still stand in solidarity with us. >> dave, what do you think is next in this process? one of the things that -- the statement promised today, is a conference upcoming this fall in which they will review all of these laws and all of these regulations and what the protections are and what they should be in these situations for the tribes. >> we still have a lot of work to do. i know this is not over. what we want to do is make sure that whatever -- whatever time we have here on this earth is spent worthwhile we have a better future. >> chairman dave, thank you once again for joining us here in the last word. a real honor to have you back. thank you very much. >> thank you, lawrence. we'll be right back.
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couple of weeks. that's good. >> next couple of weeks, that was a month ago. so i guess the, maybe she came here illegally stories aren't worth fighting after all. that's it for the last word, chris hayes is up next. you're under arrest for soliciting prostitution. >> even though it is illegal in 50 states -- behind the smiling faces lives shattered souls, helpless and in fear. >> they're dominating entirely. they're treating the women like a piece of furniture. >> don't do it. get out of the car right now. >> are you on probation or parole? >> who are the every day johns who buy these women in. >> are you married? >> this is humiliating. ve