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poll at bloomberg politics.com where trump is up 5. we'll be tracking that and the candidates and their health. we'll have more tomorrow. >> thanks for watching. sayonara. coming up, "hardball" with chris matthews. >> bed side manners. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. this afternoon that oddly matched pair of clinton and trump competed to show their medical reports. only in a campaign this bizarre, this campaign from oz, did one of the candidates show up on dr. oz to perform the medical equivalent of a strip tease. maybe i won't show you. maybe i will. yes, i will. >> if your health is as strong as it seems, why not share your
medical records? why not -- >> i have no problem in doing it. i have it here. should i do it? i don't care. it is two letters. one is the report and the other is from lennox hill hospital. >> may i see them? >> yeah, sure. >> those were all the tests just done. >> reality tv. according to the people in the audience, the television doctor was very impressed with trump's health other. than that itty bitty issue of trump's weight. any way, the physical was conducted by the doctor who wrote a letter last month that he later admitted was completed in five minutes. in it, the doctor said, if elected, mr. trump i can state unequivocally will be the healthiest individual ever elected. and here's what he told nbc after the letter was released. >> do you have any medical concerns about him? >> medical concerns about him.
i guess you have the same average medical kernels you have for a 70-year-old man. >> how could you know that he would be in the best health of any president in the history of the united states? >> i like that sentence. i like that sentence, to be quite honest with you. and all the rest. we've had everything. dementia and tumors. we've had every thing. psychotics and paranoids, all in my own little lifetime. >> everybody wants to go to that doctor. this afternoon, dr. oz gave his assessment of trump's health. >> as a doctor, if he was my patient, i think the results would be good for a man of his age. >> meantime the clinton campaign released a comprehensive letter. it distributed her medications, lab tests and vitals.
the doctor confirmed her physical condition is normal and she is in fine mental condition. i've got three questions. what is new here and what's missing? >> what's new. we'll start with hillary clinton. her trs released two records over the last two months. in those two letters we're getting more of a picture of what's going on with her health. good mental health. we find out about her vaccinations. we find out about some of the testing that went on with the pneumonia she had. it was mild pneumonia. she is on antibiotics for it. she is resting now. there are a few pieces missing but i think they're minor and small pieces. on donald trump's end, what we're finding out is that we don't have a lot of things that we know about.
a hot of pieces to the picture that are missing. dr. oz came on the show and showed us a little information of what he'll show tomorrow. >> let's talk about secretary clinton here. i'm not a doctor. i'm trying to figure out what others are reporting. this sunday, hillary clinton had a spat of dehydration. fair enough. it was a hot day. a lot of people needed more hydration. water. she was not drinking enough. that led to fainting and it led to her being led to the car in a near collapse situation. another case of dehydration. in that case it led to her falling and having a concussion. then the blood clot. was this a case if somebody was not there to catch her, that she would have fallen and suffered the same reaction which is a concussion? that she went through before? dehydration, fainting, concussion. what does that pattern tell you?
it that she doesn't take very good care of herself. she works extra hard but she is not drinking the water and not listening to her doctor to say you need some rest to get over this. the other thing it tell me, from the tests she's had in the past, specially tests concerning the blood clots. they've done a fairly thorough evaluation of those and she is on blood thinning medication. if she hits her head, she could bleed in that area. my main message would be, listen to your doctor and take care of yourself. i understand this is the hot and heavy season on the campaign. >> the phrase that grabs me blood clots. is this something that's chronic? >> she has had three different episodes of these blood clots. she is on three different medications. it prevents other blood clots from forming assuming she is at the right level.
also in an earlier letter, she did what is called ant coagulation studies. they're looking for symptoms that might cause her to coagulate a little more with the blood clots. they didn't find any of those. so we don't have an understanding of why she is getting these blood clots and we may never because science hasn't advanced that far. >> what about trump's doctor? you can't call someone a quack. but to say he is the healthiest person who has ever run for president, it is undocumentable. there is no equivalence to 200 years ago. we can't see john quincy adams. it is. with the long hair, he looks a little strange. what do you make of a doctor who says healthiest guy in history? he is leaning on his arm for some reason. >> if i called and said i have this new patient. donald trump. tell me what he is like.
he is the healthiest person. that doesn't tell me anything. good i have me some history and some back ground. >> what do you have? a little overweight. 230 something. >> he is overweight. the 230 puts him in an overweight category bordering on obese. i don't know that i would call him a healthy weight. we don't know much beyond that. he is on an aspirin every day. why? did he have issues in the past? we don't know a lot of his picture and that's probably the biggest concerning thing. i talk about it being a puzzle. we have all the pieces to put together. we have a few pieces but we don't have the rest to get a complete picture. >> thank you for coming on. i'm joined by mother jones washington bureau chief, david, a trump surrogate and former adviser. let me ask you a question i've
been thinking about. we have the commission on presidential debates. it is not a commission. everybody thinks it is very straight and very objective. why don't we have a commission that says no, more pussyfooting around. if you want to run for president of the united states and you make it into the final round, april 1 or something, you have to submit to a medical exam? >> you can do a financial exam. >> you're changing the subl. >> i'll saying do you know psychiatric evaluation as well. i don't think you can impose it. there is nothing in the constitution that someone has to be sane and healthy. i think you could set something up like that. if a at a time that get lost, he or she may pay a price for that. >> maybe a standard set of questions that doctors to have answer about you.
>> paul songas was in very bad shape when he ran we have other past incidents, president kennedy, fdr, their health was a concern. it was concealed from the american people. so i think there's some validity. >> roosevelt lasted a few months, or a month. >> there is something to the american people wanting to know. at the end of the day, there are bigger issues that people around the kitchen table are concerned about. sth i don't know if it is mr. trump's colon oscopy or mrs. clinton's feigning. >> i'm interesting in this. they both went to the trouble today of putting out some medical material. they think the public wants to see it. you disagree. >> i think the public wants to hear about policy. about deeper issues. >> we've been talking about policy for years, sort of. you think the tax thing, let's
talk about taxes. this is death and taxes almost. bernie sanders went right through his campaign and someone said -- >> he never became the nominee. i think he would have had a harder time not releasing his taxes were he the nominee. today wave piece in "newsweek" talking about the trump organization financial ties. >> can we stay with one thing at a time? no, really. let's just talk about taxes. i want to talk about taxes stafl on taxes. what is trump hiding? >> i think three things, he may not make as much money as you would think a $10 billion millionaire would. he may not pay a tax rate. and he may not give anything to charity. >> why do you think trump is hiding in. >> i don't think if he is hiding anything. >> president obama said he is hiding his tax returns.
>> just because president obama says it -- >> mr. trump has. that after his you had a is it done, he will release his taxes. how do we even know he is having an audit now? >> why do we have to assume everything he says is not true? >> why does he have to wait for to it end. >> it is a choice. >> just a minute. it is up to him and he's closen not to do it. >> i think he said after the audit is opportunity he will release it. >> anybody running for president say the same thing? >> they surely could. >> if he doesn't release it before the election, it is meaningless. the only opponent to release the taxes is that people want to know very important details. the guy who has his finger on the nuclear button. >> governor pence released his tax records and what did that
tell you? >> that's different. >> it was a choice. and it didn't tell us anything. it didn't tell us that his ability to be president or the vice president. >> when pence was being vetted by donald trump, he gave donald trump his tax returns. so donald trump says that's good enough for me that i need to know about your tax returns but he tells american public, forget about it. i do not have to give it to you. forget about it. thatbiggest bs. >> who is auditing him? >> taxes from five years ago. he can do this. it is his decision. he is hiding behind the audit as an excuse. he is having an audit right now. >> do you accept my rule of
politics? if it is better than it looks, they'll show you. if it is worse, they won't. that's what they do. they'll show you neglect looks better. hide anything that makes them look worse. that's what politicians do. anyone who keeps away from the public something they're proud to show tells me they're not proud to show. >> there is probably too much that he can't put it out. he could give us the first page. how much you paid, how much you made and how much you gave to charity. >> the e-mails. >> the molls don't count. it is not the same thing. >> we should take many trump at his word that he will do that. >> you're taking him at his word that this is an audit. >> do i. i happen to trust our leaders. and i want to trust them. >> that's crazy to wait that long. >> david who doesn't trust
known. >> thank you for coming on. a very trusting man. we haven't had this much trust in a long time. hot stuff. wait until you hear what colin powell said. if you really want to know what he is thinking, you have to check the hacked e-mail. it shows the former secretary of state, wait until you hear about the birther thing. and part of the quote, racist, he called on it this birther movement. there's more where that came from. powell, right in the kisser. plus, trump goes to flint, michigan. some are saying he is just using it as a prop. and tonight, the roundtable. democrats claim that hillary clinton is held to a different standard than donald trump. finally, my election diary. ♪ music
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for a guaranteed discount. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. in ohio, a new research poll shows donald trump with a 5-point lead over hillary clinton. 46-41. in florida, trump with a three-point lead. next, nevada. where the new poll shows clinton leading by 2. trump, 44. clinton, 42. clinton led by 4 in the mon mouth poll in july. clinton, 50, trump, 42. in michigan, clinton leading by 5 points. last month clinton led by 10. we're seeing how trump is moving up in florida, nevada, ohio.
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personal e-mails sent by retired four star general and former secretary of state powell powell have been leaked online with hackers with suspected ties to russia. some of those e-mails first reported by buzz feed news and later confirm reveal powell's disdain for donald trump. in one e-mail, shamd trump for perpetuating the birther conspiracy. powell writes, yup, the whole birther movement was racist. in june of this year, powell goes so far as to call the republican nominee a national disgrace and an international pariah. other e-mails which have not been verified, powell calls benghazi stupid witch hunt. he asked if ambassador stevens
exposed himself to risk. powell also had some criticism for hillary clinton who he called greedy is that expressed his frustration with being dragged into the stories about her e-mails. the site that released the e-mails is believed to have obtained the e-mails from russian hackers. general powell told nbc news, the hackers have a lot more. a warning that carries a lot of weight in light of the charges that russia may tamper with elections. let me start with you. what do you make of this, what do you think the power of this news is? probably the most respected. the leading light. the one that everybody in the country seems to trust. one of our really renounced leaders was so open in his secret kornls about what he thinks of trump, and the
bertherism movement and he calls hillary clinton greedy. >> you're right. this is someone considered a statesman by a large swath of the country. and he has not until now inserted himself publicly into the presidential election very much. adds gravity to his criticism of trump. as a birther movement, as a racist. the fact that he is so viciously critical of trump in these private e-mails this is what he really feels about hess party' nominee. >> we all watch him. he went for 2008. >> it does matter. he talks about people in the republican party as idiots. >> the cheneys. >> he talked about them and said the party left him a long time ago and he is pretty scathing
about the republican party. in an e-mail to his daughter. i think the more surprising thing in these is whoo he says about hillary clinton who he says is a friend of his but then says she is greedy, not transformational and overly ambitious. >> a lot of hubris, too. >> she ruins everything with her hubris. >> messes up everything. >> and i'm surprise that had he is that critical of hillary clinton on e-mail. i think everybody is learning now what you say on e-mail will be public pretty soon. >> isn't it funny? i will like most people. i have a certain view of the guy. i think of him as an older brother. not that much older. i think he got bamboozled going into the iraq war. he is more of a salute guy than a politician. it makes me happy.
i know who they are. i think they're the biggest hawks in the world. here is a die when is a soldier, a general, you get into the wars when you have to and you figure out how to get out when you get in. >> he attacks cheneys. he says they're idiots. he was criticizing the book that he, dick and liz cheney wrote together. he also takes on rumsfeld. he and could noti right. they say rumsfeld and the nation building messed up. he says the boys in the back are brain dead. >> such a great idea to begin with. we're trying to figure out newark and detroit. let me ask you this about this election. this is a chinese water torture.
this is show and nobody thinking it will stop until election day. are we getting some incredible holy cow stuff coming in in october? >> we don't know what is coming. we know what colin powell. today. that there is a lot more out there. julian assange said before the debate he will release more stuff about hillary clinton. and i think that's the biggest story. it is not the inside beltway of who said what. so far no stunning surprises. even at the dnc. confirmations of things we might have suspected. >> we have an expert with us. you know more than either of us. do you think it will be a real water fall? from the e-mail chain? >> look. i don't see how there couldn't be. you have julian assange. the russian hackers. you have all these people
promising to deliver more. they're not bluffing. and i think that even powell powell is saying the hackers have a lot more suggests he is nervous about what will come out. my colleagues at buzz feed are still sifting through e-mails that d.c. leaks is providing now. there could bel many more. i think both campaigns need to be ready. >> thank you for coming. >> up next, donald trump visited flint, michigan today. we'll talk to flint's mayor about trump's trip, next. what if a company that didn't make cars made plastics that make them lighter? the lubricants that improved fuel economy. even technology to make engines more efficient. what company does all this? exxonmobil, that's who.
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>> it used to be, cars were made in flint and you couldn't drink the water in mexico. now the cars are made in mexico and you can't drink the water in flint. >> good joke, bad timing. with less than 60 days to the election, trump toured in michigan. we all know the story on the drinking water problem. at a campaign in january, trump was asked about flint. he said he didn't want to comment on it. monday he told the detroit news, this a situation that would never have happened if i were president. he doesn't explain how. both the mayor of flint, karen weaver, i call this a belated photo op accused the republican nominee. hillary clinton made flint a focal point of her campaign during primaries.
she's visited the city twice. trump is aiming at large african-american populations. and also, the aforementioned flint's -- actually the democratic mayor. so michael moore is one of these guys who has been out there in that city for decades talking about its economic plight. what do you make of the newbie? does it help at all in. >> well, the only good thing is there is attention on nine and we need to keep this story front and center. this emergency situation was declared in december of 15. back in december. so that's almost ten months now. and to come into flint now, it is interesting timing. it's almost time for people to start getting absentee ballots. >> we know the politics. mr. mayor, we are familiar here at "hardball" with politics.
in case people do care. the water the people are getting out of their tap, in their bathrooms and especially their kitchens. is that got lead in it? >> the water is still unsafe for us to drink, yes. while the water is getting better, it is now at a point that we cannot drink it. we are still on bottled water and filtered water. >> think about that. we're talking on two years have folks who have been bathing in bottle water and cooking and still drinking bottled water. today in the united states senate, we finally broke the gridlock and the roadblock for the last eight months and we are providing help that will help fix those pipes and replace those pipes. >> that's what we have to do, right? the pipes are ryaned. all the i'm thats leading into your house. the ones, the mains. all the pipes. seriously. you have to get rid of your own plumbing. >> right. and the reason that was done is
because the governor of the state wouldn't spend the $100 a day to treat the water for corrosion. so that's how we got there. >> we covered that here. in flint, donald trump visited the bethel methodist church. he also delivered prepared remarks. when he began attacking hillary clinton, the pastor stepped in to clarify the purpose of visit and the invitation to come in. >> everything she touched didn't work out. nothing. now hillary clinton -- >> mr. trump, i invited you here to thank us. >> oh, okay. not give a political speech. >> okay. >> what did you think of that? she was quick on her feet. >> very good. >> that's the kind of moderator we want in the debates. trump promised if elected to help the city. >> the damage:00 corrected by people who know what they're doing. unfortunately, the people who caused this tremendous problem
had no clue. it is an hon to be with you. i appreciate it. and i will say, i can only say in the strongest of terms that we can fix this problem. it is going to take time. it is amazing, the damage that has been done but we'll get it fixed and it will be fixed quickly if i'm elected. >> let's talk politics for a second. you're both politicians. you know how to turn crowd. on not much pizazz there. >> no. >> that's been the problem. people have wondered what has taken so long if you were so concerned with the citizens of flint. one of the things we said, look what the senator has done. she has worked in the michigan delegation. they have worked tirelessly and effortlessly and she has worked across the aisle to get with republicans to get this passed with the senate.
if he is he is as concerned, we need him to do same thing. >> what about a guy who shows up before the election? they never met before. sth that was the question. what took you so long? >> he is irrelevant in terms of helping in nine. it means nothing that he's there. i think it is important to say, he talked about who he is attack. he is attacking a republican governor who was a businessman who had never been involved in government. just like trump. >> why is michigan so strongly democrat. i'm loog at pennsylvania. he may carry ohio. that's more republican. he may carry north carolina. but michigan is almost untouchable. why? >> first of all. >> first, michigan understands what president obama has done with the auto industry. >> mitt romney gave up on it. >> he said let it go bankrupt.
so did donald trump. >> did he say let it go bankrupt? >> yeah. when he talks about trade, i'll take him seriously when he stops making his ties in china and his suits in mexico and his suits in turkey. he has no credibility when it comes to jobs. >> thank you both for coming on here. mayor karen weaver and debby. >> whether hillary clinton is being held to a higher standard in the campaign or not. we'll get in a real fight here. you're watching "hardball." the place for politics. plain toy you recommend synthetic over cedar? "super food"? is that a real thing? it's a great school, but is it the right the one for her? is this really any better than the one you got last year? if we consolidate suppliers what's the savings there? so should we go with the 467 horsepower? or is a 423 enough? good question. you ask a lot of good questions... i think we should move you into our new fund. ok. sure. but are you asking enough
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but america has got a lot of business women who succeeded without adding their tax returns, leaving a trail of lawsuits. work here's didn't get paid. people feeling like they got cheated. >> that was president obama yesterday in philly taking shots at donald trump in a rather height hearted way about not releasing his tax returns. he said he is hiding his tax returns, not disclosing they will. trump has so far defied a decades old tradition of candidates releasing their tax returns. hillary clinton has released hers going back to '77. that's 23 and 13. a lot of time there. 29 years. over a year ago clinton released the health history and even more today following her reason diagnosis of pneumonia.
but is clinton being held to a different standard than trump? here she is. >> what i will tell you is that the cleanse campaign and the hillary clinton, secretary cleanse herself has been very forthcoming about her medical history. particularly in the last couple days. so much so that we know she gets dehydrated often. it is a very interesting detail and i would argue that a little bit of a double standard. i think we're holding her to a different standard at this point. >> let bring in the round table to figure it out. mark, this question, first of all, i think it is a question about a person who gets dehydrated to the possibly of paning. hillary was caught this time before she fell. when you faint even a few time,
you have to wonder what is causing it. apparently it is dehydration. why? do you think it is relevant? >> obviously it is. million have seen this video. what was really happening? i think an send the video, they wouldn't have been determined. i think she will get a huge welcome tomorrow when she goes back on that stump and i think it will be the end of it. >> i don't think so. i think she dischosed this because of the video. when you talk about are they being treated fatherly. donald trump has not been passing out. he has not been winded or described over and over again as looking unhealthy. so people are raising these questions about hillary. that's one of the reasons. >> rudolph giuliani has been put on this show rather rabidly. is he doing it because he saw her cough? >> they were not working this before has not?
>> clearly there are people who are partisan who want to raise these questions because of partisan biases. but hillary clinton is the one who almost passed out in front of a camera. that she keeps passing out -- >> well, she passed out once before and hit her head. you say as of this sunday, you think it is fair game. >> ron. you saw her waiver there. that's a burst of reality. that's why they hold on to it. there is a general assumption what they see on television is crafted and not real. so moments lying this live on and it will live on. >> pretend you're the most pristine journalist who ever was. no ideology and no bee as. down the middle.
tax returns, health reports. is it standard and skin? >> which way is the media leaning here? >> hillary is playing traditional play book. you disclose. you fall back. trump plays a whole different game. he gets points for thumbing his nose at the establishment. >> so you don't believe he is under audit. >> his numbers have been good during all thiseredand going up. he likes to thumb his nose at the establishment. >> i think you're right. i think the not me buddy is part of his buddies. i don't think this is a bias and being treated unfairly. she's been in the public eye for
decades. how that may or may not relate to her role as secretary of state. that is fair game. >> why, i've yumd stood some of it. why is at this time person they go after? the cleanses this is something wrong that person. rather than i disagree. she is too far left. >> i don't know that they're going after the person. this clinton machine. this being that seems impenetrable. >> you were on the inside. >> i think hillary is meeting in standards. she has now put out enough medical information. he is not meeting the standards. >> i think she took a look.
i think if we're going to make these disclosures, not traditional but real, we ought to do a commission. here's your health report that has to be filed. this is a close race. donald trump took another shot at hillary clinton suggesting she wouldn't have the stamina. a key word. to deliver a long speech. >> i don't know, folks. do you think hillary could stand up here for an hour and do this? i don't know. i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> look at that. >> the man is an entertainer. he knows how to deliver a line and everybody is just guffawing. >> you want to connect with wit. >> and to connect with the
people. this is bottom line. >> you want al gore back, don't you? >> well, i don't know about that. chen clinton was good. >> they're all politicians. yesterday, a very big obama guy. i thought yesterday was fantastic. for whatever reason he thinks all philadelphia people have to drop their gs. get rid of all the gs. they all do it. bill, hillary. why do they all talk down to some dialect they think the average person talks and if you can talk election that to the people, you're one of them. >> look how far that has gotten trump. >> he doesn't drop his dwmpbs. >> he has his own dialect. i don't think that is the most
appealing they know. he hand been able to knock her out. she's been a senator, nay, and has run through this. >> she always messes things up because of her hub rest. you. >> etss she is in a good place. it's done. i think in this upcoming debate. >> why didn't she hire someone? who just says, boss? madam secretary, you have to do it. you have to come out with this. this is the time to do it. not an hour and a half from now. jody used to say, like fish. the longer you hold it, the longer it rots. the hardest thing is to confess the truth ahead of the press. >> this is a tight, close
arrange. she did not want to give this advantage. i think it was a big mistake on trump's part. she'll be strong and vigorous. >> thank you so much. a smart guy. notice how i stuck that in there? ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. now get 0% apr for 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash.
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five point spread there. clinton's lead the down. than she had me previous poll three weeks ago. losing the big league. still got one. when you add third party can cat, race is even tighter. just two points back. libertarian candidate gary johnson at 13. creeping up where he has to be to get in the debate. green party jill stein still down at four. we'll be right back.
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all the medical papers that went flying out the doors of the campaign today were carefully vetted to make sure nothing on them has anything to diminish the confident in the candidates availability to do the job. if it contained an iota of bad news, do you think the candidate would have released it. this this turf that either trump or clinton would give us information we don't have or could hurt them. it's called rolling disclosure. out there today on full parade. when a candidate tells you something you already know because your already know it. practice of deeping back anything that harms the picture they're carefully presented of thems until someone else the media rival candidate does it. thest the reason the american people don't trust politicians. it's no announce what we already know. what glorifies them in a manner that has not yet become obvious to us all. expecting to tell a difficult truth, a political unsettling
truth is thinking you'll find a hope filed in your next weetties box. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. all in with chris hays starts right now. >> tonight on all in, if your health is as strong as it seems, why not show your medical records. >> we now know donald trump weight loss plan. what do we really now about his personal business interest. a bombshell report from news week of the trump organization foreign entaknglements and the threat they could pose. plus, traced her on the false equivalence of clinton versus trump. what we know about the dnc hack, colin powell hack, and possible russian meddling in our election.