tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC September 15, 2016 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
>> we will move on to other breaking news over the course of this hour. right now, we will go back to hillary clinton at the congressional hispanic caucus. >> the right thing to do. but it will add $700 billion to our economy and enable america to be what it has always been, a place where people from around the world can come to reunite with family, start new businesses, pursue their dreams, apply their talents to american growth and innovation. now, i know this has been a long road. we wouldn't be where we are today without your persistence and the quiet courage of families in every state of our
union. and we certainly wouldn't be here without the bravery of the young men and women who have risked their very place in the united states by coming forward and fighting for their own future and the future of millions of others. they helped change the conversation. and when president obama created docca, it changed their lives. right now, 750,000 undocumented young people in america are going to school, working and planning for their future. they are dreamers in much more than name. i have met so many. i've listened to their stories. they have done everything we have asked of them and made our country stronger in return. so when donald trump promises to rip that all away on day one, when he promises to round up and deport all of the 16 million people living and working among us, including american citizen
children who were born here to parents who are undocumented, these are the faces i see. i picture astrid silva who i met in los angeles. many of you know her story. she came to this country at the age of 4 from mexico with nothing but a doll, a cross and the dress she was wearing. now she's in her 20s. advocating for the rights of immigrants everywhere. i picture a young man i never met whose high schoolteacher wrote me a few months ago to share his story. his teacher told me that this former student was funny, enthusiastic and patriotic. he played the drums in the school marching band. and after graduation in 2005, proudly enlisted in the u.s.
army. before shipping off to iraq, he stopped by the school so everyone could see him in his new uniform. he was his teacher wrote as respectful and optimistic as any student who ever entered my classroom. he was also a dreamer, brought here as an undocumented child. he loved america. and hoped one day to earn his citizenship. but in april 2007, while on a mission in baghdad, he was killed by an improvised explosive device. he was just 19. the army called him a hero, and he was granted the american citizenship he always wanted. all these years later -- his
teacher still treasurers his memory. and this teacher wanted me to know -- he wanted me to know that despite what donald trump may say, immigrants are not rapists and criminals. the truth is -- this young man may not have been born here, but he represented the best values of our country. we teach our children that america is one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
everywhere i go, people tell me how concerned they are by the extreme policies and divisive rhetoric they have heard from my opponent. the racist lie about mexican immigrants that launched his presidential campaign to his racist attacks on a federal judge. and every time we think he has hit rock bottom, he sinks even lower. his latest target, a minister in flint, michigan, who respectfully asked him not to use her pulpit for political attacks. he calls her a nervous mess. how insulting, how dead wrong. reverent faith green timmons is not a nervous mess. she's a rock for her community in trying times.
and she deserves better and so does america. and again today, he did it again. he was asked one more time, where was president obama born? and he still wouldn't say hawaii. he still won't say america. this man wants to be our next president? when will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry? now, he has tried to reset himself and his campaign many times. this is the best he can do. this is who he is. and so we need to decide who we are. if we just sigh and shake our
heads and accept this, then what does that tell our kids about who we are? we need to stand up and repudiate this divisive rhetoric. we need to stop him conclusively in november in an election that sends a message that even he can hear. we need to set the kind of example we want for ourselves and our children and our grandchildren. parents and teachers are already worried about what they are calling the trump affect. bullying and harassment are on the rise in our schools. especially targeting students of color, muslims and immigrants. at a high school basketball game in indiana, white students held up trump signs and taunted latino players on the opposing
team with chants of, build the wall and speak english. donald trump is running the most divisive campaign of our lifetime. his message is, you should be afraid, afraid of people whose race or ethnicity is different or whose religious faith is different or who were born in a different country. there's no innuendo or dog whistles anymore. it's all right out there in the open now. so we have got to come back twice as strong and twice as clear. just this week, a mother in florida wrote to me about her 11-year-old son, francisco. he is proud to be american, columbian, ecuadorian and puerto rican. as he calls it, a pot luck of hispanic heritage.
francisco has been following this election very closely, his mother told me. he wears his love trumps hate pin every day and refuses to take it off. when his father warned him that might make him a target for bullies, francisco looked his father in the eye and he said, i was always told to stand up for myself and what i believe in. and i believe trump is wrong. and good for you, francisco. that's what we have to do in this election. and that's what so many of you are doing already, standing up to the bullying and bigotry wherever it comes from. together, we must send this resounding message. we need to inspire a level of turnout that will help us win up and down the ticket. we have set an ambitious goal of registering and committing 3 million people to vote in this election that would not have
otherwise voted. we can't do it without you. nearly half of latinos in america are under 35, and we need you to show up and make your voices heard in this election. so we're going to keep asking for your help, keep hitting the campaign trail. please, talk to your friends, your neighbors, your community, everyone you see between now and november 8. tell them to go to hillaryclinton.com to get involved. this election is too important for anyone to sit on the sidelines as we heard from congresswoman sanchez. so let's stand up for a future where we put families first, where we build bridges, not walls, and, yes, together, we can prove love trumps hate. thank you all very much.
>> hillary clinton speaking live tonight at the congressional hispanic caucus institute, the chci that you see on the graphic behind her. this is their annual gala dinner. speaking to a big room of people at this event in d.c. a pretty boisterous room. a lot of people shouting out. a lot of applause, a lot of support for secretary clinton in this room. but also a lot of people doing -- not call-in response. that was not the structure of the speech. shouting out throughout the speech in a supportive and encouraging way to secretary clinton. secretary clinton herself being a little self-deprecating in those remarks about the fact she was following president obama. she said tonight in these remarks that he is a hard act to follow, in a lot of different ways. it's interesting. i have to tell you, we have a bunch of balls in the air in
terms of what's going on in the news. those speeches we were monitoring out of washington, d.c. there's breaking political news tonight that unfolded while those speeches were happening, including this little bombshell that robert costa set off at the front page of the washington post. more on that in a second, including joy reed who i have asked to stick around even in addition to her other hosting duties, come talk to me about this. i think it's potentially a very big story on two different levels. in terms of the setting here and what happened today, today was the day hillary clinton first got back on to the campaign trail. this was the candidate's first personal appearances since she fell ill sunday. she's had three days off at home resting. she's back as of today. this image here is from her speech that she gave in north carolina today. she walked out to the strains of "i feel good."
it was not very subtle. after her speech in north carolina, she gave a press availability thereafter. took a bunch of questions from the press corps following her travels on the campaign trail. you might remember before she got sick, before this weekend, hillary clinton had just started doing more and more of these press availabilities. the trump campaign and other people were criticizing her for not doing formal press conferences, for not generally taking questions from the press on a regular enough basis. they started having her do more press availabilities before she had that incident with her health this weekend. now after her unplanned break from the campaign trail, they will stick to that schedule, stick to that plan of making her more available to reporters. maybe even on a daily basis. she's back on the campaign trail. we saw her in north carolina. then we saw that long press availability. after that this afternoon, hillary clinton and president obama both spoke tonight in the congressional hispanic caucus institute. this is their big annual dinner in d.c.
it's always a big deal in washington, the congressional hispanic caucus institution is a big deal in democratic politics in particular. in terms of our national politics, these back to back speeches gave us a snapshot of what we are expecting to be a doubleheader from president obama and his would-be democratic success for the rest of this campaign. the clinton campaign and the white house have made clear this week that they are expecting president obama to be doing lots and lots and lots of campaign events for secretary clinton, maybe even so many campaign events that it will be unprecedented in terms of a serving president endorsing and working for his successor. the white houseing the prospect he may be on campaign trail for two days a week until the election, which i think -- we did a little research on it. we think that might be the most any sitting president has ever done for his would-be successor.
we saw a snapshot of them tonight with their back to back speeches. it showed tonight with her remarks she seems to be doing just fine after her bought with pneumonia. >> immigrants aren't somehow changing the american character. immigrants are the american character. that's who we are. that's the american i know. that's the america i believe in more strongly than ever. so thank you for picking me up every step of the way. thank you for making this country great. we've got more work to do, but we will keep on making progress and create a brighter future for everybody in this country we love. >> when you hear a presidential candidate spewing bigotry and hate, it's easy to get discouraged. but we're here because we know this election is a choice between not just two people but
two very different visions for america's future. either we're going to make our economy work for everyone or just those at the top. either we're going to fear our differences or embrace and celebrate our diversity. either we're going to pit americans against each other and deepen the divides or we're going to be stronger together. >> hillary clinton and barak obama both speaking tonight in washington. there's a lot going on. there's a lot of balls in the air right now. in addition to this full day back on the campaign trail for hillary clinton tonight, i should tell you that her husband, former president bill clinton, is due to appear on "the daily show" on comedy central tonight. we do not have a clip from that. we hope to get one during the course of this hour. i will give that clip to you.
will show it on tv if we do get in that clip tonight. on the other side of the campaign for his part, donald trump tonight spoke in new hampshire. although, i will say on tv, i think his remarks -- live remarks were overshadowed by the return of his opponent to the campaign trail and president obama's remarks tonight. donald trump will not be overshadowed much later tonight when he appears on "the tonight show" with jimmy fallon. i do have two clips from that appearance to show you. there's one sort of kind of normal politician on a late night show clip we have. and then there's one not normal at all clip. let me show you the normal one first. >> thank you for giving us the material that we're doing. it's been amazing to follow and exciting. you say some shocking things. i can't even believe -- >> i'm trying not to anymore. >> see, that's changing. that's what i'm talking about.
>> that's the normal one. that's donald trump. he is going to be on "the tonight show" tonight. we got a second clip. i kind of can't believe it happened. i mean, it's definitely jimmy fallon and it's donald trump. i don't think anybody is a body double. or a head double. you will see what i mean. this is really something. this really happened. behold, a moment which the audience can't quite believe. the audience actually can't be brought to stop clopclapping in middle of this. jimmy fallon is allowed to do something to donald trump that is almost impossible to conceive of. watch this. >> can i mess your hair up? i will be gentle. i will be gentle. >> as long -- the answer is yes.
but the people in new hampshire where i'm going to be in an hour from now, i hope they're going to understand. >> yes? >> go ahead. >> yes. donald trump, everybody. i will do it as well. donald trump, everybody. >> that is a thing that happened. i almost can't believe it. my hat is off -- my hat is tipped. i am very impressed by jimmy fallon that he had the -- that he pulled it off and donald trump let him. you know what i mean? this is an important moment. that's not really an important moment. still, rather stunning. all that's happened. basically within the course of the last hour. when i say we have a lot of balls in the air, that's what i just showed you is some of what i mean. biggest deal that i think has just happened, even just in
political news, is this late breaking reporting that was just posted from robert costa at "the washington post." he got an interview with donald trump on board his private plane. this is just posted tonight. there's a couple of big headlines here. i will give you the headline one first in terms of what "the washington post" puts on its headline. republican presidential nominee donald trump remains unwilling to say that president obama is born in the united states. even though this is just posted within the last how or two, you saw hillary clinton turn this around and remark on this in her speech tonight at the hispanic caucus. this is quoting again from "the washington post" piece, trump refused to say whether he believes obama was born in hawaii. i will answer that question at the right time, trump said. i just don't want to answer it yet. obviously, the political salience is myriad. donald trump played with the
idea of running for president in the '80s, in the year 2000. when he started flirting with the idea of running for president in 2012, his platform basically was going to be this birther idea, this idea that president obama was not really the president, that he was secretly foreign, he wasn't born in the united states. a lot of people see that as a deeply, deeply racist effort to undermine the authority and legitimacy of our nation's first african-american president. donald trump was the captain of that team in 2012. he has stopped talking about it recently. he has not made it a centerpiece of his campaign in 2016. he has very cagey as to whether he renounces those views or whether he still holds them. it's a threshold issue, particularly for a lot of african-american voters. but also for a lot of reality-based americans who know that this crusade against president obama was somewhere between evil and crazy and maybe even beyond.
robert costa got him to comment on this. there have been surrogates and donald trump's campaign manager who have said rudy -- trump's campaign manager said in recent days that donald trump no longer is a birther, he no longer believes that president obama is secretly foreign, that he wasn't born in the united states. they have asserted plainly within the last week that that's no longer his view. well, robert costa asked him about that directly tonight. it turns out they are not right about that. trump refused to say whether he believes obama was born in hawaii. robert followed up, when asked whether his campaign manager was accurate when she said recently that trump now believes obama was born in this country, trump responded, it's okay, she's allowed to speak what she thinks. he continues, i don't talk about it anymore. if it is an issue for you whether or not donald trump still maintains and believes that president obama is secretly
foreign and secretly not president, should not be counted as a president of the united states because his presidency is illegal because he was secretly not an american, then donald trump is still there. two other smaller stories and one big one out of this interview. the two smaller ones concern the ousted ceo of fox news. pushed out of fox amid allegations of -- there's that word. lots of allegations of sexual harassment, including a large financial settlement paid to one former fox news host who says she was sexually harassed by him. it has been reported multiple sources, multiple contexts he is advising donald trump's presidential campaign. that has been a source of contention for me between me and the trump campaign, because when the trump campaign made their campaign manager available to this show to come on the show, i asked her directly whether roger
was in fact a formal or informal adviser to donald trump. she said he is neither a formal nor informal adviser. donald trump telling robert costa that he is not a formal adviser. there is no role, he said. but he described him as a trusted friend. i love the benefit of his experience and knowledge. he has certainly been very successful at what he does and on occasion we will talk. robert also getting donald trump to say tonight that he has no plans with roger of launching a media venture if he loses the presidency. that had been another source of speculation. donald trump telling costa that those conversations haven't happened. i have no interest in a media company, false rumor. here is the last big thing here. this is what i have asked joy reed to come back down to the studio to talk with me about. robert says in this interview, trump took an unprompted shot at anderson cooper of cnn who is one of the moderators selected by the commission on presidential debates to moderate
one of the head to head debates this year. an unprompted shot means robert did not bring up this as an issue, but trump himself went out of his way to say this. this is the direct quote from trump in tonight's washington post. wow. here is goes. i don't think anderson cooper should be a moderator because anderson cooper works for cnn and over the last couple of days, i have seen how anderson cooper behaves. i don't know what he is talking about there. he will be very biased. i don't think he should be a moderator. will participate but i don't think he should be a moderator. cnn is the clinton network. anderson cooper, i don't think he can be fair. >> i felt it was 50/50 whether he would go through with the debates this year by saying that anderson cooper should not be a moderator, i think we're further down that road than we were before. lots of breaking news. joy reed will be with us next. stay with us.
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this is one of those days and one of those nights when the news is going to keep breaking late into the evening. in fact, the news is still developing over the course of tonight in terms of the presidential campaign. a couple things. the big breaking news story tonight in terms of information we have just gotten in is this blockbuster interview that robert costa has done with donald trump in which donald trump refuses to say whether or not president obama was born in this country. he is going back to his birther roots. it's an incredible time in the campaign to be doing that. he is raising the prospect he objects to one of the moderators for the debates. does that mean they will not go on as scheduled? robert costa will be live with brian williams on this network at 11:00. that's in the 11th hour tonight with brian williams. i should tell you that bill clinton is doing this appearance on "the daily show" on comedy central tonight.
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>> hillary clinton speaking tonight to the congressional hispanic caucus at their big annual dinner washington, d.c. those remarks were moments ago. but, of course, everything she did today is more newsworthy than usual because this is her first day back on the campaign trail. those remarks we played, those were specifically notable and news worthy because she turned those around right quick. this interview tonight in which donald trump indeed refused to say whether or not he believes president obama is an american, whether or not he was born in the united states, this interview has just posted this evening at the front page of the washington post. joining us is joy reed. doing triple duty tonight. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to take a step back. there's an interesting history about donald trump and this claim about president obama being secretly foreign and not really president. there's history about it in terms of his campaign manager saying he no longer believes that.
can you explain to me your view of what -- what is so politically salient about that claim from him? >> there's a large percentage -- it's hard to tell what it is. i was looking up polls of what percentage of republicans agree with donald trump on the birther issue. there were polls taken during the primary that showed a high number. one in two believing his birthplace was suspect more than believed about ted cruz. there's one poll -- >> ted cruz was born abroad. >> more people believed ted cruz was born in the united states than believe barak obama was born in the united states. part of it is the base. the other part is you are seeing donald trump at his peak self-confidence when he gets into the mode of saying he doesn't have to change fundamental things is because he feels right now that he is winning. so he is going back to the well, going back to things he thinks make him popular. for part of the base, these make him popular. he is giving hillary clinton an
opening that she needs. hillary clinton right now needs to do two things. she needs to remind young voters and voters of color that you need to be afraid of a donald trump presidency. you need to be excited about voting against him. she's in the polls this week has learned she needs to create affirmative support for herself. tonight she did the affirmative part in her speech. you see they made sure they got in the birther thing. it's very helpful with african-americans. >> on that last point there, today one of the things that i was researching and looking at and try doing some sort of additional reporting on or getting some new perspective on was the trip that donald trump took to flint yesterday. a few different headlines out of that. he is finally trying to get involved in the flint issue. good for him. he is getting involved in a way that the mayor and local officials are like, you are not helping. he had this incident at the church. he is speaking before a stoney-faced, not interested, sparse group of mostly african-americans, sort of a youngish -- mostly african-american crowd. the headline moment was when the
pastor said, this is not what we asked you to come here for. you are not supposed to makepopo i was looking at first person video shot by people in the room. trump said today on fox that that room loved him. that pastor was terrible but the room loved him. the audience was with him. from the perspective of people in the audience, they were yelling at him the whole time. the pastor saved him. the last thing that was really literally screamed at donald trump as he was run out of that room, uncomfortably, was, do you admit that president obama was born in the united states. why is it such a flashpoint? >> for african-americans it was the attempt by donald trump to humiliate the first black president of the united states, to make him show his papers as if we were in apartheid south africa. it's one of the reasons african-americans are opposed to donald trump even though he is doing this pinball thing where he is trying to pull in african-americans by turning them against migrants of hispanic origins.
what is interesting about that flint trip and about the interview with the pastor, our understanding is that article armstrong williams -- >> i didn't understand who he was talking to. you couldn't see williams. >> exactly. you have a certain number of african-american republicans who are trying to help donald trump do this black outreach. when they put him in front of african-american audiences, he gets quite a negative or a stoic or a non-reaction. i think what you are going to start to see is let's attempts to listen to those advisers and put himself in those rooms. donald trump turns around and makes a completely different story about what happened for a white audience when he goes to fox news which has a tiny african-american audience. he can confidently boast that the room loved me and that pastor was horrible. he backed down to that pastor. he was passive in her presence. donald trump the blusterer is not the same guy when he is in front of the audience he is insulting, when he is in front
of the mexican president. >> when he is confronted by anyone. >> when he is confronted, he backs down and then turns around and tells a story about how tough he was. the more he puts himself in front of audiences of color, the more he shows off he is passive and aggressive. he is only aggressive when he is not in the presence of the person he is bullying. when he gets in front of the person that he previously insulted, he becomes incredibly passive. >> if we are back to donald trump's birther days, if that's what we are back to, it's another i think 90-degree pivot. i don't know what comes next. joy reed, batting cleanup for all of us around here these days. thank you. >> thank you. always great to be here. more ahead. we are -- we have now? we now have the clip of bill clinton on "the daily show." we think we will have it for you next. stay with us. with dynamic performance, to help you hold the curve... and bold styling to stay ahead of the curve. the lexus rx, rx hybrid and rx f sport.
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first of all, by popular demand, here is that clip again of jimmy fallon touching the hair. one more time. >> can i mess your hair up? i'll be gentle. i'll be gentle. >> as long -- the answer is yes. but the people in new hampshire where i'm going to be in about an hour from now, i hope they're going to understand.
>> yes? >> go ahead. >> yes. donald trump, everybody. i will do it as well. donald trump, everybody. >> okay. that is part of your late night tv experience tonight. so is this. former president bill clinton just taped an appearance on "the daily show." i have not seen this clip yet. this is the clip that we got from that taping. i am forwarned it's not funny. >> i think that both these candidates have had a lot of experiences, they have made a lot of decisions. those decisions have had consequences. there's a record of them. so this is being -- saying she's an insider, i'm an outsider, there's one big difference. most of her strongest supporters are people who have worked for her or have done business with
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what is the right height? for the right height for trees, see the great state of michigan. >> i love this country. i should love this state. just feels good being back in michigan. you know, the trees are the right height. >> michigan famously has trees that are just the right height. the right height for a presidential candidate, that's a more complicated question. actually, even the height of a current presidential candidate, that turns out to be a complicated question. for example, google thinks that donald trump is 6'2". something called celebsmemoir.com says he is 6'2". the forbes article says he is 6'2".
the health letter from mr. trump's doctor says he is 6'3". which might be a minority opinion. if he is 6'3" instead of 6'2", at his weight, that would bump him up from obese at 6'2" to just technically overweight. maybe there's some intensive in the height there. who knows? who knows? maybe he expands and contracts with the weather. maybe he is still growing. i don't know. hold that thought. he's not a serious adult. i can't vote for donald trump given the things that he said. trump should not be supported. i believe he's disqualified himself to be president. i just cannot support donald trump.
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two years ago. your testosterone is actually good. >> for the first time in the history of the republic, a would-be president of the united states has made a public declaration of his level of testosterone. he got a round of applause for it. even john mccain with his thousands of pages, nobody proclaimed their testosterone before. maybe she can tell us the medical significance of why that was brought up. i don't know. psychological significance, what it's doing for insecurities in the world. you can talk amongst yourselves. last night, we got medical information released by the clinton campaign on both hillary clinton, from her doctor, and
tim kaine from his doctor. dr. natalie azar was here with us looking at the documentation to explain the significace of that information and to give us the bottom line. i said last night with frustration that we didn't have any information to go on about the other candidate, donald trump. the other candidate, donald trump, so it wasn't really possible to make a comparison. well, now we've got that new information, including histerone level, who asked for that? joining us now is dr. natalie azar. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> you said last night that we just didn't have enough information to go on in terms of a layman's characterization of donald trump's health. do you understand more than you did before? >> i think that the letter that we got, the information that we got does give us a lot of information. and i would argue at this point an adequate amount of information, just to get a good
picture of his general health. we have laboratories, his lipid profile, which was excellent, which i would anticipate, since he's on a statin drug. >> which is cholesterol? >> yes. >> but if it looks good and you are on a medication, that means that it's working for you. >> right. >> he said he did go through four different drugs before he found one working for him. >> sometimes people don't tolerate them. i don't know the details of why he had more than one. but suffice it to say, it appears to be working. we have, as you calculated, we have some vital signs for him, blood pressure, height and weight, bmi, colonoscopy. ekg, chest x ray, really nothing
that i could see that was omitted. he's had, i mentioned the cancer screening, age appropriate health maintenance stuff. i didn't hear a lot about immunizations. that's important, but it's not, it's not the, the omission of that doesn't mean anything significant to me. >> one of the things we talked about last night was the type of imaging that hillary clinton got that diagnosed her pneumonia on september 9th. there was an interesting moment where the tv doctor, dr. oz said, is reading through this letter which we're told he never had seen before he saw it on camera, and he explains my goodness, his ekg was normal, he seems to be exclaiming that it's remarkable that he's had those tests. that he's had those exams. do you have any insight there? >> i saw the clips also. and i don't know how much of his reaction or his response was really trying to convey something to us.
i think he was pleasantly surprised that he had all of this information in front of him. that was really pretty complete if you're talking about cardiology and cardiovascular stuff this week. so we got a lot of good information. a lot of information from clinton's camp. i think we've spent a lot of time talking about who is healthy and who is healthier and i think the conversation is probably better focussed on rather comparing the two, because it's almost like comparing apples and oranges. some of trump's data was a couple of years old. he's an older male, it really is, you really can't discuss evidence-based to compare a man and a woman together per se, you know what i'm saying? but rather is each person healthy enough? is there anything that seems to be disqualifying in their medical histories that would render either of them to be unfit as president, and i think
most of us who've analyzed the information as we do all the time, analytically look at people's records and make, you know, draw conclusions from that, i think most of us would think that both of them are healthy enough. >> have made adequate disclosure and seem, based on those disclosures seem to meet baseline requirements for doing this type of job. >> exactly. >> and it's gratuitous or not gratuitous to throw in your testosterone number? >> that's a good number to have, because it's cardioprotective. it's a check mark in his favor. it's time to move on. >> it is. >> they're both healthy enough to be president in most of the experts' estimations, and i think we should close the record on the scrutiny. >> it didn't need to be this much of a circus. >> it took on a life of its own, you know, certainly the need to
defend clinton's health, because of, you know, the spotlight that was shown on it in the last week or two. >> dr. natalie azar. thank you. i don't anticipate we'll be talking about this tomorrow. i jinxed it. we'll be right back. again ♪ [ rear alert sounds ] [ music stops ] ♪ just can't wait to get on the road again ♪ [ front assist sounds ] [ music stops ] [ girl laughs ] ♪ on the road again ♪ like a band of gypsies we go down the highway ♪ [ beetle horn honks ] no matter which passat you choose, you get more standard features, for less than you expected. hurry in and lease the 2017 passat s for just $199 a month.
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