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will ever come. >> reporter: one murder, so many victims. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm tamron hall. thanks for watching. it was tough. it was tough to think that anybody could do that to someone. to look at the pictures of what they did to her and hear details of how it was carried out. it's just, it's devastating. >> shauna tiaffay, loving mom by day, vegas cocktail waitress by night. >> i was at one of the bars and i saw her walk by. every single head turned.
>> it was after her shift that they found her, the victim of a ruthless attack. >> i mean, your heart just drops to your stomach. >> potential suspects? how about a casino's worth of customers? >> shauna was very beautiful. is it someone that saw her at work and followed her home? >> we didn't know if there was some psychowatching us girls at home. >> or did the answers lie in the dead woman's past? >> shauna started thinking, i have got to get out of this situation. >> from out of the blue, a tip. >> he had some information that was connected to our murder. >> that would reveal a diabolical plot. >> i just could not understand how this was reality. >> but was this killer too clever to be caught? >> he is extremely smart. he is smarter than we all are. >> i'm lester holt and this is "dateline." here's keith morrison with "under a full moon." >> she was finished now.
she hit the jackpot in las vegas. a handsome husband, adorable daughter an good job, but there is a dark side to sin city and sadly, the beautiful cocktail waitress became its victim. in cases like this, the husband is often a suspect, but the crime scene was telling vest garretts something else and a they got a hot tip, but like so many things in vegas, nothing was as it seemed. here's keith morrison with under the full moon. >> she was finished now. tired, wrung out. must have been, as she walked away from the incessantly chirping machinery and the bleary eyes of the gamblers on holiday from real life who'd called out for her again and again and again. outside in the night, a full moon bathed the great houses of delight and sin in an unaccustomed shade of pale. it was september 29th, 2012. at precisely 3:00 in the morning, in a back room of the palms casino, the cocktail
waitress named shauna tiaffay inserted her time card in the staffing machine and set out to break a little rule. shauna had parked her car in the back lot, a practice discouraged because surveillance cameras were unable to track her all the way to her car. still easier this way. quicker. and after all, would a stalker really be waiting for her here, under a full moon? >> it was absolutely horrible. and we felt so helpless. >> it's every woman's worst nightmare. >> we didn't know if any of us were next. >> it never occurred to shauna to become a cocktail waitress when she moved to vegas as a 20-something back in the mid-'90s. what she wanted was to be closer to family, meaning big sister paula. >> she originally just thought, "oh, there's no way i could be a
cocktail waitress. i don't even drink." >> but in a casino town, a cocktail waitress could make good money. so now, at 46, she was a veteran. >> she would laugh. shauna laughed at herself a lot. you know, she giggled a lot. and she would laugh at herself, and, you know, she'd say, "well, i still don't know, you know, what these cocktails are. you know, i -- i just order 'em and they give them to me and i go take them to the -- the people." >> but she was good at it. everybody could see that. >> all the customers loved shauna so much. >> why? >> she was a sweet person. >> beautiful. >> she made close friends. a work family, really, including kelly chapman and stephanie vargas. >> i remember there was one time, i was in the -- i was at one of the bars and i saw her walk by. every single head turned on that bar watching her walk by. and i remember thinking, i'm like, "why don't i look like her?" because men, women, they -- they just loved her. >> but no one loved her quite the way he did.
a handsome boy scout of a firefighter named george tiaffay. george was the genuine article. an all-american good guy. he'd overcome early obstacles to become a top notch student in high school, a star athlete. this is his sister, maria mcgrew. a valedictorian and on the football team. i -- >> yeah, you'd think -- >> -- he'd just be a jerk, right? >> yeah. >> just kind of a jock, mean-spirited sort of, who knows, stereotypical. >> but it was quite the contrary, said maria. >> he was always the calming force amongst family and friends. you know, he was the gentle speaker. he had this outlook in life where, "i wanna go out and make the world a better place. i wanna go out and do something with my life." >> so george did. he earned a prestigious appointment to west point, and after graduation became a combat engineer, served as a nation builder in panama. his childhood friend, aaron solano, went down for a visit. >> the stories he told me about
the missions that he accomplished, building schools, clinics, roadways and bridges, really had an impact on his life. he finally felt like, "hey, i'm getting to do something." >> when george left the military with the rank of captain, he took a corporate engineering job, but soon realized that life in an office building wasn't for him. he wanted to work for real people, which is why george put aside that fancy degree of his and went to vegas to train as a firefighter/emt. >> focusing on himself was not how he wanted to live his life. he wanted to serve. that was a favorite word of his, to serve. >> so while shauna served drinks at the palms, george served as a firefighter and found time to volunteer, do what he could for the down on their luck souls who live on the fringes of so much glitz. in 2004, they had a baby. >> there's daddy and mama. >> she loved it. her daughter was the most important thing to her in this world, and everything she did revolved around her daughter. >> and they're dancing to everybody's favorite. >> and then, two years later, a marriage in hawaii.
>> mama and dada just got married. what do you say? >> just the three of them. back in vegas it was a busy, if complicated life what with george's 24-hour shifts, and shauna's night times at the casino. and then it was september 29th, 3:00 a.m. she walked the empty lot to her car, started it, pointed away from the strip. and under that full moon headed home. no idea what was waiting for her. it was 9:00 a.m. when george arrived with their daughter. she'd spent the night at grandma's, he at the firehouse at work. but why was the garage door open? and what was that inside? george had grown accustomed to trauma and death. but this? >> i think i need to report a break-in and a murder.
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a full moon. part of what made it so incomprehensible was where it happened. shauna tiaffay lived in a good, safe, neighborhood. part of town where vegas does not party, a part of town where the people who work the casinos raise their families and live ordinary quiet lives. but, this is where they found her. george and their eight-year-old daughter. inside her own house. not so safe after all. >> i think i need to report a break in and a murder. >> george would have known even if he hadn't been an emt. >> what's going on there? >> she'd been dead for hours. >> my wife. my wife is on the floor, bloody, stiff, not moving. >> we got a call in the morning. >> detective dan long has been in homicide a long time, and god knows, vegas has kept him busy. him and his partner terri miller. >> when we arrived, there is
were fire department personnel everywhere. >> it was all too obvious. shauna had been attacked, probably as she walked into her house, had been beaten with something blunt and hard. >> and there was things done with the body that made us think that there was possible sexual assault of some type and there was posing of the body. >> some kind of predator at work here? a predator who escaped with a good hunk of cash from the looks of it -- shauna's purse was missing. >> cash and casino chips. they get tipped with casino chips quite a bit. they're known to make $300, $400, $500 a night. they make a lot of money. especially if they're good. and we did send detectives over to the palms. they talked to them. they said shauna is one of the best employees they had. >> but something happened after she left the palms. so, what? >> shauna was very beautiful. is it someone that saw her at
work and followed her home? >> here we are. >> of course, as the husband, george would have to be considered a possible suspect, too. so detectives pulled him aside, interviewed him right on the spot. >> george, do you understand the statement's being recorded? >> i understand. >> and you understand we want to talk to you about what happened this morning? >> yes, sir. >> george told detectives that when he saw the garage door open, he had their daughter hang back while he went inside. >> i saw shauna's feet. just laying there frozen looking. and, in my job, i know what that means. >> okay, are you a paramedic? >> i'm an emti firefighter. >> their daughter, thank god, didn't see anything, said george. he rushed her out to the street. >> i didn't know if there was somebody there. i just wanted to get out of there with my daughter.
>> he had taken the little girl to shauna's place, he said, because it was shauna's turn. >> because we're currently separated, but planning on moving back in together, because we started getting along again. >> and meanwhile, they had this complicated arrangement. shauna worked 7:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. at the casino. george, as a firefighter, worked long shifts and got lots of days off. their daughter shuttled back and forth between them, and when they were both at work, the girl spent nights with george's mother. >> what shift did you work yesterday? >> a 24-hour shift. >> so he was at work when shauna was killed. course, they did some checking, just to be sure. >> you know, if he was there on every run. you know, if he had left for any reason. >> but he was on every run. did not leave work. at all. so, not the husband this time. >> he had nothing to do with the attack of shauna. >> but george did offer a possible lead. >> the garage door was open,
which is unusual. so we were worried, because my wife's house got broken into a week or two ago. >> the thief in that earlier burglary, it appeared, used shauna's bathroom to take a shower and left with several pairs of shauna's panties and some jewelry. he left behind a pair of boxer shorts, size small. back then shauna immediately suspected some neighborhood teens, said george. >> so she had discussed it with several people, including george, and decided that it may be that she left something unlocked, and it could be maybe some kids that live in the neighborhood. >> so is that who killed her? looking around the crime scene, the detectives realized that shauna's killer or killers had been into her booze, had taken not just her purse but, like in that earlier burglary, her underwear. so they set about checking out every one of the neighborhood boys and -- they had solid alibis, all of them. >> they were not involved in the
break-in. they were not involved in shauna's death. now things get even more scary, because we don't know what we have. >> once that word got out, it could very quickly spread the terror around. like it already had among shauna's co-workers. >> we didn't know if there was some psycho watching, you know, watching us, girls, work at the palms. we didn't know if any of us were next. >> the predator theory got a boost that second day when, on a walking path near shauna's house, someone found bits from her purse -- i.d., makeup kit, personal things. what crosses your mind when you realize it's somebody walking away from the scene, discarding things? >> a stalker? >> absolutely. a predator. sexual predator. >> they spread out, got the rest of homicide involved. days off were cancelled. everybody out.
they looked everywhere. >> there was considerable pressure. pressure from media. pressure from our administration. everybody wants this thing solved and put away quickly. >> and then quite suddenly, a break. a tipster on the crimestopper's line with a story to tell. >> he had some information that he thought was connected to our murder. >> a wild goose chase? maybe. and maybe not. >> coming up, the tipster mentioned a detail about the crime, one that gets everyone's attention. >> no one knew that but the two of us. >> this guy brings it up. >> exactly. >> when "dateline" continues. i'm just a guy who wants to buy that truck.
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make sense -- ever since her mother called with the news about shauna. what's it like to hear something like that? >> i don't know that you can describe it. you know, i mean, your heart just drops to your stomach. >> paula and shauna's family and friends gathered to mourn and remember how much they cared about her. the funeral itself was standing room only. >> it was a beautiful tribute to shauna. >> george's big sister, maria -- >> i could see george was heartfelt and did what he could to express himself at a terrible time. it was all about showing that shauna was loved and cared for. >> meanwhile, las vegas homicide detectives worked diligently to identify and track down whoever killed her. >> do we have a predator? did she come home and they were burglarizing the house? is there an enemy somewhere that she made that we need to find? >> and then, they got lucky.
a man who called himself "big will" pennix called the crimestoppers hotline. big will had a story to tell. >> he had spent time in prison. and he worked as a maintenance man. but he found satisfaction in helping others coming out of prison and helping them find the right path. >> one such man, said big will, was a homeless handyman who lived out in the desert. went by the name "greyhound." >> he did a lot of drugs. drank a lot of alcohol. and was volatile. >> according to big will, this greyhound told a lot of tall tales, but will called police this time because greyhound bragged about killing someone -- a woman. and said he used a hammer to do it. >> and we had just come from autopsy that morning. marks that were seen on shauna's body, we thought that it was
possibly a hammer. so no one knew that but the two of us. >> but this guy brings it up. that's -- >> exactly. >> a homeless, drug addicted ex-con with a volatile temper, said big will. certainly seemed to fit the profile of the potential predator detectives were looking for. but big will told them, finding greyhound might not be so easy. >> he told us that greyhound walks everywhere. he lives out in the desert. >> but big will wanted to help, he said, so he agreed to take them to some of the places he thought greyhound liked to hang out. and, what do you know? they ran into him in the parking lot of a gas station. detective long approached him. sweet as pie, greyhound was. said he'd be perfectly willing
to go to the station and have a chat. his real name was noel stevens. what did he tell you? >> he knows shauna. he knew where they lived. that he did yard work and handyman work for george and everybody else in the neighborhood. >> so someone shauna knew, someone george, the do-gooder, had tried to help. a thing not out of character for george. but greyhound, or, noel, was adamant that he had nothing to do with shauna's murder. then he agreed to show the detectives his campsite out in the desert. what did you find? >> swimsuit bottoms that in our search of shauna's house appeared to me that matched the top that i had seen in her bedroom. there was also an extra small black dress, which, you know, shauna was very tiny. >> so greyhound was the burglar poking around shauna's personal things. and in fact, her friend recalled shauna had grown uncomfortable with this particular charity case who'd been doing work around the house.
>> she didn't want noel in the house anymore. and she said, you know, you better get out of this house or i'm calling the police on you. >> so was he the killer? out at the campsite, detectives did not find any evidence linking him to the murder. so, they kept looking. >> one of the other things big will told us was that noel had a campsite number one and a campsite number two. >> a second campsite out there somewhere. but where? and what, if anything, was hidden there? >> coming up -- >> under the bush he saw a pair of jeans that appeared to have blood on them. >> a dark discovery seems to provide answers, so why are detectives about to confront a series of new and troubling questions? it's not on any sightseeing s get between you and life's beautiful moments. by choosing flonase, you're choosing more complete allergy relief and all the enjoyment that comes along with it. when we breathe in allergens,
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video from the two scenes in new york city where there were explosive devices in lower manhattan, e shows what appears to be b the same man at both of these locations. they do not know though if this man is or whether he has any connection to these locations and what was found at them. but does character this as a promising lead. plus, the pressure cooker device found at one of the sites is on its way to a lab after new york city police rendered that inactive. for now, back to dateline extra. more later. welcome back. detectives discovered that noel stevens, a likely addict, had burg la a rised the home. but had no idea that stevens
were responsible for her murder. as the search continued, they made a discovery that could have provided answer, but only deepeneded the mystery. let's return to keith morrison with under a full moon. it's not on any sightseeing itinerary, not this way, but this, too, is las vegas. rugged desert terrain that is a kind of refuge or hiding place for the desperate and troubled. >> believe it or not, that whole area has homeless people that are up there. >> this is where greyhound took them. this is where he lived, he said. but out there somewhere, they were convinced there must be a second campsite with possible evidence about the killing of shauna tiaffay. so detective miller went up with the police air unit to have a look around. >> those two pilots decided that they were going to fly that whole area for us, and they actually located the second campsite. >> and we entered and we found a citation in the name of noel stevens, so we were in the right place. >> so they spread out, kept looking. and pretty soon, one of them called out. >> about 175 feet from the tent,
he found a bush. and under the bush he saw a pair of rolled up denim jeans that appeared to him to have blood on them. we put those in for immediate dna testing. >> how did that come back? >> it was shauna tiaffay's blood, and the pants were worn by noel stevens. >> that's kinda your story there, huh? >> that's kind of our story there. >> proof the homeless handyman george and shauna tried to help was a murderer. but could the story be that simple, really? listen to shauna's sister, paula, for example, and things start to sound a bit more complex. >> well, i just think that he always loved himself more than he loved anyone else. and it was all about him and what he wanted. >> that was george she was talking about. the selfless firefighter had
another side, said paula. >> the verbal abuse, the intimidation, the control. i mean, george was always a controlling guy. >> hold the camera in your hand. >> push it away from you. >> according to paula, george had become ever more controlling, and judgmental, especially about shauna's spending habits. >> first time at the beach. >> only got worse when shauna told george the marriage was over. >> he said, you know, "if you don't come back to me and we can't sort this out, you're going to lose custody of your daughter." and that was -- >> that was his threat. >> -- her number one fear. oh, absolutely. he used their daughter as a way to manipulate shauna, time and time again. >> shauna had been letting her work mates read the text messages george sent as things got worse in the marriage. >> one text, it would be nice, you know, short and sweet. like, "i love you. i've been thinking about you all
day," "we need to work things out." and then, you know, we would be working. she wouldn't be able to text him back right away, and ten minutes later, he's blowing up her phone cussing her out, calling her names. >> shauna's supporters remembered her funeral quite differently than george's people did. >> he had no emotion. no emotion at all. he did a eulogy, talking about how much money shauna liked to spend, and that there was one time she was at the gas station and accidentally left the pump in the car. >> in the eulogy? >> in the eulogy. >> paula watched george and his daughter at the cemetery and fumed. >> they hadn't even lowered her in the ground yet, and he said, "come on," and took her hand, "it's time to go." and i watched him walk off with my little niece, you know, 8 years-old, just lost her mom, and i watched him walk off with her. and i thought, you know, this is exactly what he wanted. he wanted all the control over my niece.
>> paula told the police her suspicions, even before they began chasing down leads on greyhound. so even though they had their killer, the idea that george was involved somehow was already in the back of their minds. on the other hand, george's family was just as eager to assure the police that those attacks on george's character from shauna's side were complete nonsense. >> i never saw shauna act cowed or afraid of my brother. she had an equal footing in the way they interacted with one another. so that's -- that's why i still can't believe the -- it -- the insinuation, the allegations that -- that he was abusive, or even controlling. >> george's friend, aaron solano, couldn't agree more. >> no matter where he finds himself, what challenging situation he finds himself in, he's always been consistently kind, consistently caring. >> so which george was the real one?
the detectives decided to pay george a visit at his house, though they didn't tell him what they'd heard about him. the good or the bad. >> mr. -- can i call you george? >> yeah, call me george. >> thank you. >> george said, sure, he knew greyhound. but said he'd never heard him called noel stevens before. >> you knew him as something else? >> i knew him as neal smith. >> george told detectives how he and shauna had befriended this neal smith. tried to help him get back on his feet. >> me and the wife kinda looked at him like our little charity case because he was a nice guy and he's down on his luck. >> by now, the detectives knew greyhound was an addict and a big drinker. so they asked george. >> was he a drug user? >> nothing. >> okay. alcohol? >> yes. he would drink alcohol, but not a lot. just a beer or two. >> just a beer or two every now and then?
>> yeah. >> that raised the antenna a bit. in his interview with detectives, greyhound said he and george were great friends, worked out together, drank together a lot. but then, listen to this. as george kept talking, the man he said he knew as neal became noel. >> she said, "can noel help us out with this?" if it was something i wasn't good at, well maybe noel is good at it. because noel seemed to be good at everything i wasn't good at. >> remember, george said he'd never heard the name noel stevens before. knew greyhound only as neal smith. so, was it an honest little slip or was george hiding something? >> is it possible he was confused about the name, that it, you know, greyhound used several different names? >> when you get nervous, you're gonna revert back to whatever is natural. and he reverted back to noel. he just got done telling us, "i've known this man for years as neal," and then, "noel helped me move." so i -- that's a tell.
>> but why would george admit to knowing greyhound and then lie about the name? the detectives left george at home and made a plan they hoped would shake out the truth. >> we decided to amp up the pressure. >> coming up, a bold calculation by detectives was about to trigger a stunning chain reaction. >> he was driving extremely fast and forcing vehicles off the road and then plowed straight into a cement barrier. the officer following said he just committed suicide. >> when "dateline" continues. [ front assist sounds ] [ music stops ] [ girl laughs ] ♪ on the road again ♪ like a band of gypsies we go down the highway ♪ [ beetle horn honks ] no matter which passat you choose, you get more standard features, for less than you expected. hurry in and lease the 2017 passat s for just $199 a month. runstaying in a differentns hotel every night.
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but now, could george have play it's an old police tactic to stimulate -- maybe upset -- a ed a role in her death? suspect you haven't quite cornered, hoping for an overreaction. sometimes it works, sometimes not. so even though they didn't have solid a case yet, the detectives let word slip that they intended to arrest george, charge him with murder, hoping that he would do something rash and maybe incriminate himself. >> he was told by his former attorney that he was going to be arrested. at the same time, police officers were showing up at my mother's doorstep. >> what did george do? got into his truck, raced over to his mother's house, dropped off his daughter, roared off again, police watching. >> he was driving extremely fast. he was forcing vehicles out of his way, forcing vehicles off the road, and then plowed straight into a cement barrier. the officer following said, "he just committed suicide." >> what did you think when you got that report, when you heard
about that? >> well, i think -- it was a very good indication to us that we were definitely on the right track. >> but if suicide was his intent, as the detectives assumed, it didn't work. his injuries were not severe. still, it looked to detectives like a guilty george would rather kill himself than face a murder charge. and as george lay in a hospital bed recovering, noel stevens gave police the final piece they needed -- he confessed that he killed shauna and said his good pal, george, asked him to do it. >> so we went to see him at the hospital. we went in. told him that he was under arrest. >> did he say anything? >> he asked to speak with his attorney. >> i just knew that george had something to do with it. >> both george and noel were booked on murder and conspiracy and burglary charges. >> george is the one that wanted shauna dead. george is the controling man that needed that control of shauna. and he had a tool at his disposal that worshipped him,
that loved him, that would do what needed to be done. >> noel stevens pleaded guilty and spent the next three years cooperating with the investigation. while george, who pleaded not guilty, set up a ministry in the clark county detention center. and george's sister maria remained convinced he didn't do it. why, the age-old conclusion, the husband always does it. >> he was a statistical suspect from day one for sure. my opinion is, they sandbagged around that to make a case. >> why, she asked, should anyone believe an addict and known liar over george? and the detective's theory that a guilty conscience led to a suicide attempt? that was hogwash, said maria. >> but let me tell ya, he has been on suicide prevention squads. he's an emt. he is quite knowledgeable about what it takes to kill yourself in a vehicle.
so, driving that large vehicle into a k-rail with your seat belt on is not how an expert tries to commit suicide. he did something stupid, but he didn't try to kill himself. >> and it wasn't just george's family who stood firmly behind him. fellow firefighters came to his defense, fellow west point grads, childhood friends. >> i truly believe he's innocent. he gives too much of himself, and i think that that is one of the reasons he finds himself in the situation he's in. >> were you surprised at the amount of support that george got? >> no. no. george, he makes lifelong connections. it's part of his generosity. >> and so on a searing hot summer day in late august, 2015 -- >> good morning. >> those life-long connections sat on one side of a las vegas courtroom. >> george was adamant that this go to trial. he would not accept any plea deals, anything. we all agreed with him, family
and friends. good. do that. we want to show people that this is all wrong. >> and on the other side, a sea of hot pink. >> there were just an outpouring every day. you know, lots of people that showed up wearing pink, and -- >> why that? >> pink was shauna's favorite color. and not pale pink, hot pink. >> ex-work mates were there, too. >> i wanted the jury to see that she wasn't just a vegas cocktail waitress. you know, that she was a good person, a beautiful person, a good human being. >> prosecutors mark digiacomo and pam weckerly told the jury that while noel "greyhound" stevens was the admitted killer of shauna tiaffay, he never would've done it had george not put him up to it. >> he's got this singular goal of i need to kill my wife. and he has to keep pushing noel to do it. >> shauna's sister paula testified that she encouraged her sister to move out. >> i told her that, based on the things she was telling me about
things that had been going on for quite a while, that i believed that she should separate herself from george and move to a different home. >> so she did, and george increased his contact with noel. his phone calls to stevens in the month before the murder proved a conspiracy, said the prosecutors. they showed the jury george's phone records. >> if you looked at how much he called noel, there's 87 phone calls. >> that's three or four calls a day. >> yes. his mother is about once a day. >> then they said, look at this. here are george and noel shopping together. buying gloves, dark clothing, a knife. and on four different occasions they bought hammers. >> this ends up at mr. tiaffay's house where he happens to have two other perfectly good hammers in the garage. >> what else could all of this have been, they asked, but a murder kit?
one final thing. greyhound told the cops that he got into shauna's place with a key george gave him. and look at this -- here's george at the hardware store, buying a key just like the key noel used. only one possible conclusion, said prosecutors. >> noel stevens used the hammer. the person who used noel stevens is george tiaffay. >> ahh, but -- >> it's a good story, it's real interesting, but it's not evidence yet. >> this is george's defense attorney, robert langford. >> there is absolute reasonable doubt, as to george tiaffay's involvement in this case. >> those surveillance videos, for example, that the prosecution found so damning? none of the hammers they bought was the actual murder weapon. and besides, most of what they bought together was simple and innocent camping gear. george helping a man in need, as
usual. >> he thought he was helping out noel stevens to live out where noel wanted to live, which was outside of town. >> as for the 87 phone calls that the prosecution said proved george and greyhound had conspired to kill shauna, there was nothing sinister there, said the defense, just a man trying to contact his charity case handyman. >> i live out in that area. and cell service is notoriously bad. on top of -- have you ever tried to call a handyman in this town? it is ridiculously difficult to get hold of those kinds of workers to come do work. >> in fact, said the defense, the only thing the state had tying george to the murder was noel stevens' word. >> without noel stevens' statement to the police, george is an innocent man. >> and how could the jury believe stevens, said the defense, when even his own friend, the tipster big will said -- in court -- that the man
was an habitual liar. >> honesty, i would put him at a scale of one through ten, i would put him at, a scale of maybe one and a half. >> ten being very honest and -- >> one and a half, meaning not honest at all. that's correct. >> one and a half, meaning not honest at all. that's correct. >> reporter: george's attorney was itching to cross-examine the habitual liar who'd condemned his client. which presented the prosecutors with a dilemma -- the man at the center of their case against george might just destroy it. >> he could be a real problem. >> he could be a real problem. and there was a substantial amount of discussion between pam and i over whether or not we're calling him or not. >> does that imply that you disagreed? >> oh, yes, we disagreed. >> coming up, a risky decision looks like it might just backfire. >> do you hear voices? >> yes. >> i think everybody agreed that
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>> welcome back to "dateline extra." i'm tamron hall. noel stevens murdered shauna. he admitted it. but he also claimed he was told to do it by her husband, george tiaffay. prosecutors had a tough decision to make, and the case hinged on the outcome. here's keith morrison with the conclusion of "under a full moon." reporter: prosecutors marc digiacomo and pam weckerly had a big problem, and they knew it. the problem had a name. noel stevens. greyhound. >> noel is a very important piece of information, but he's also the biggest risk. >> reporter: in the credibility sweepstakes, he's way down here somewhere and -- >> absolutely. >> reporter: your defendant is way up there. >> reporter: and so they argued. these two prosecutors.
she said put him on the stand. >> my thought was you don't understand who george is and how sinister this was until you meet noel and say this is the person that he gave access to. >> reporter: he said, don't take the chance. >> they could say this crazy, psychotic, homeless man did it on his own. >> reporter: who prevailed? she did. >> the state calls noel stevens. >> reporter: and so up went greyhound to the witness stand and offered his grisly story. >> i hit her in the head. >> when you hit her in the head, what happens? >> she hits the floor. >> and after she hits the floor, what do you do? >> i jump on top of her. >> and after you jump on top of her, what do you do? >> i keep on hitting her. >> how long do you hit her for? >> i hit her until she doesn't move anymore. >> reporter: why? because, he said, someone told him to. >> who told you to kill shauna?
>> george. >> reporter: but was it true? now the defense got to ask greyhound about, well, for starters, his addictions. >> wild turkey 101. >> yes and vodka. whatever i could get my hands on. >> you'd drink it every day? >> every day. >> just one or two? >> i'd drink it til there ain't no more or until i don't have no more money or i drink. >> reporter: yes, and he smoked weed, he admitted, and did speed. but it got worse. >> do you hear voices? >> yes. >> do you remember saying to that person that they sounded like monsters? >> yes. >> reporter: hallucinations, too. >> what kind of hallucinations? >> i see, eh, shauna sometimes. >> sometimes? >> yes. >> do you see other people? >> sometimes. >> well, i think everybody agreed that noel stevens is crazy as an outhouse rat. >> reporter: how could you
believe a man as crazy as that? >> you are outside of reality at that point. >> reporter: you can't trust the primary witness. >> they just, they didn't have it. >> reporter: so, a man who hears voices? that got the jury's attention. one juror submitted a question read by the judge. >> did the voices you said you would hear from time to time ever tell you to kill shauna? >> no. >> reporter: there was the choice for the jury. george used noel as a murder weapon, or the drunk who heard voices killed shauna and blamed an innocent man. the lawyers, the friends the family -- from both sides, could only sit and wait. >> it was nerve-wracking. >> reporter: for three days, they waited. the prosecutors, once confident, worried. >> the hung jury. >> it's the hung jury situation. and so by day three you think, uh-oh, is there a holdout.
>> count one >> reporter: and then, finally, here it was. >> guilty of first degree murder. >> guilty. george tiaffay, his face almost serene, absorbed the verdict. >> it was so much relief. >> closure. >> it was just this big weight taken off my shoulders, you know, because i felt this entire time that shauna hasn't had a voice in this. and, i've been so worried about representing her right and saying the right things, and making sure that i portray her as the -- the wonderful person that she was. >> both george and noel were sentenced to life. george has no chance at parole. but what felt like justice to some, to others, did not. >> and here's this little kid who was happy-go-lucky and smart and valedictorian, the football player and the west point grad
and the upstanding guy you could all look up to. >> yeah. right. good guy. >> reporter: locked away forever. >> he's gonna be in that horrible place. i hope, pending appeal, he finds purpose for himself there, and i think he will. he's that kind of person. >> reporter: and the young girl at the heart of a tragedy is living without either parent and with a story that is different, depending on which side of the family is telling it. >> i really do feel that my niece is the true victim in all of this. it's so tragic, and i just don't have words for what she's going to have to come to terms with and understand as she gets older, you know? it's, it's really tough. >> reporter: she lives with george's mother, the woman with whom she's spent so much of her life. and paula? paula plans to make sure the daughter of shauna tiaffay never forgets.
>> we talk about her mom, and how much she loved her, and what we think her mom would want for her now. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline extra." i'm tamron hall. thanks for watching. there's this pile of leaves, and it's where everything else is clear and flat. my heart is racing a million miles an hour. i was using my boots to move leaves, and that's when i screamed this blood-curdling scream.