tv Lockup Wabash - Extended Stay MSNBC September 19, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PDT
due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. i don't beat around the bush when it comes to the racist term. i'm absolutely a racist. >> inmates find themselves in racial conflict. >> he and two white offenders were involved with assaulting a black offender. >> anything can pop off from this situation, you know? you've got haters everywhere you go. >> but some seek conflict elsewhere.
>> child molesters are the crap on the bottom of my boot if i were out tending stalls. >> all of a sudden, they were kicking and kneeing and punching, and pretty brutally at that. >> he and his cellmate had 22 shanks hidden in their light fixture. >> i try to make mine at least 10 inches long, so i have plenty of room and plenty of blade. >> and we turned the cameras over to the inmates so they can record their personal thoughts in private. >> if you ain't strong, man, you're going to crumble. nobody want to die in jail, with their blood and their guts all around their cell. but now i'm in the state, locking in that tin, waking up at eight, not taking to the weight. if i cannot appeal, i'm going to bring it to these pigs. grab an ice pick and bring it to these rigs.
leave a scar from their belly to their jig. some may not make it home, some may stay for life. some [ bleep ] live for peace, and others live for wreck. look here, blood, you can stay humble or you can have a fight to the death. that's just a couple bars, man, throwaway bars, man. you know, donations, man, you know. that's a d-boy's life. >> carlton wright says he takes the rage he learned on the streets in plainfield, new jersey, and pours it into rap. now he's one of more than 2,000 inmates at the wabash valley correctional facility in southwestern indiana. >> yeah, i had a great home, a great mother. you know what i mean? but by the same token, when i step outside my front door, it's the jungle. coming home from school, you may get into a fight, you may get jumped, you may get shot, you know what i mean, may get
harassed by the police, but when you grow up around that, it becomes normal. you get accustomed to it, and some may make it out of the neighborhood, if you can see an alternative lifestyle. but so many get consumed in a lifestyle that leads to prison or death. the street don't give you too many bright endings, man. i ran the streets, man. i did the street life. i'm in here washing clothes by hand and eating bull [ bleep ] chicks like that on the street. i wear my white t-shirt one time and throw it away and buy a new one. you make do with what you've got in prison, you know? the things you think you'll never do out on the street is like a luxury in here. this is everything, your kitchen, your bathroom, your laundry room, your bedroom, all in one cell. >> and you share it with another person. >> another bro-man who farts and pisses and whatever else he do, you know, you're stuck in here
and you're forced to do it. so you better pray you got a cool cellie, or it ain't going to work. being in prison, it's reality, man. you know, people watching movies in prison, and you see them, oh, that's sad, and you turn it off and forget about it, but it's our life. you know, we wake up every day to this, living under these strict set of rules, no privileges, you know what i mean. this is reality. there's no going home from this. >> and wright is a long way from home. >> this is my first time ever in indiana. i never lived in indiana prior to being incarcerated. i was here for two days before i caught my case. i originally ended up in kentucky, but i crossed the state line looking for a walmart and i ended up in indiana. >> wright might have been looking for a walmart, but his trip to indiana involved more than shopping. >> i was pimping on my girlfriend -- well, you can call her a girlfriend, female companion, whatever. yeah, i was pimping. so that's what i was doing from state to state, for income. i've got good communication skills.
communication is my occupation. i'm talkative, i meet different people. believe it or not, a lot of people are looking to have a good time. my co-defendant, you know, was a pretty young lady and basically, you know, sells herself. sex is a good industry. >> reporter: wright's troubles began when he and his female companion met a potential john at their hotel. it was christmas eve. >> we went back to his home, spent time there. on the way back to the hotel, things got heated and out of control, and, you know, she pulled a weapon out and she shot him. >> the victim was shot in the head. wright threw him out of his vehicle and left him for dead, but he survived, and a short time later, wright and his companion were arrested. she was sentenced to 30 years while wright received the maximum 50 years for robbery, bodily injury, and criminal confinement. but he feels another factor contributed to his sentence. >> i believe the laws is more stronger on black guys here. i mean that mice personal
opinion. my whole jury was white, you know? i didn't have nobody in my peers, so they probably couldn't understand this type of crime or understand what happened. they just associate black people with violence. he did it. convict him. >> wright believes his race is also a detriment at wabash. >> i'm on the wrong side of the color margin. that's just honesty. this prison is predominantly white people, you know what i mean? you know, i'm not saying they're racist. you've got people walking around with swastikas and hitler tattoos and it throws me off, like, damn, man, this is their prison. you know what i mean? they're comfortable with doing it because it's their prison. >> gerald richey is exactly the kind of inmate that wright tries to avoid. >> people like to dance around the "racist" word. they'll do anything in the world to not be called a racist. i don't beat around the bush. i'm absolutely a racist. people like to say we're in a
quote/unquote post-racial society and that race doesn't matter and that race is insignificant. if race didn't matter, there wouldn't be different races. all people ain't the same, you know? >> ritchie is four months away from completing a two-year sentence for intimidation of a peace officer. he is also member of a prison gang called the saxon knights. >> they both share similar ideologies in their creeds and oaths and in their bylaws. >> that's another one right there that i'm most proud of. my saxon knight crest with the bolts. >> he actually was the saxon knight president for this facility at one time. these organizations start taking possession of certain parts of the facility, such as where they were working out, the saxon knights will say they own that part of the facility and no other offenders are allowed to go on that turf without paying some sort of consequence. >> richey and two other members
dished out consequences when they attacked a black inmate. coming up -- >> the three white guys running around assaulting the one guy here. >> prison staff break down gerald richie's cell while two other inmates -- >> they've been doing this on camera, jeopardizing the situation for real. i'm almost 158 pounds of real vision and i don't think they want to see a [ bleep ].
at the wabash valley correctional facility in southwest indiana, prison officials allowed us to give cameras to some of the inmates in order to let them record personal thoughts in the privacy of their cells. among them was carlton wright. >> dining time is a [ bleep ], man. it's nothing but you and your thoughts and these brick walls.
you feel me? and if you ain't strong, man, you're going to crumble? you know what i mean? until you walk in my shoes and did this, you can't tell what it's like, man. it's hard. doing time is hard. >> during his time at wabash, wright says he's felt vulnerable because of the color of his skin. >> other prisons i've been at, it's more hispanics and blacks, you know what i mean, but this is a heavily populated white prison. it's a culture shock. >> but not every inmate at wabash is concerned with maintaining a racial divide. adrian davis and tim harris have found some common ground. particularly when it comes to personal style. davis regularly helps harris figure out what to do with his afro-like hair. >> it's harder braiding white dude's hair than black guys. so i've got to part it certain ways and put more rubber bands in it to hold it. >> my hair's only been growing for five months, so i've only got it braided two or three times.
it's starting to get to the length where i want it. probably in another month or so, i'll be able to do a little more with it. >> but both men know that their friendship comes with risks. >> i mean some white guys don't get it, so white guys who do get it usually mess with black guys, period. the ones who don't, you going to know, but they either got swastikas or they got -- even doing this on camera is a jeopardizing situation for real. people will be like, man, why you do that on camera? why you braiding another dude? you know what i mean? anything can pop off from this situation? [ bleep ] you know, you got haters everywhere you go. >> why do you do it then? >> because i'm not afraid of nobody. i've got 30 years. what you going to do me that i can't do to you? i'm almost 185 pounds of something real vicious, and i don't think they want to see that.
[ bleep ] >> davis' 30-year sentence is for dealing cocaine. harris has ten years for theft and burglary, but he's been crossing racial lines long before prison. >> you know, you have, you know, your white organizations and then you have your black organizations, and then you have, like me, i'm a white organization that's affiliated with a black organization. >> it says "white boy from the hood." that is where i'm from. i can't never change where i'm from. i can change where i'm going in life, but not where i'm from. my nickname is i.g. they've been calling me that for probably about ten years now. i mean, we have black members in the insane, but more white than black. it's more white people. we're -- g.d.s are more our black branch, you know, right there, as far as we are. we're just a branch off of them. brothers with a struggle, you
know? we struggle to survive together, and, you know, we're here for each other. me, personally, i don't have too many problems. i haven't that words with nobody since i've been transferred here. it's been more or less peaceful for me. you know, i hang out with a little bit of everybody. a lot of blacks, a lot of whites. you know, i meet in the middle with everybody. >> gerald ritchie, a member of the white supremacist gang, the saxon knights, doesn't believe such harmony between blacks and whites is possible. >> we're two different beings from head to the toe, from root to crown. and we're not compatible. we are not compatible. the only time a white dude is compatible with a black dude in a cell if, a, he's a fag, or, b, he wants to be black. that's the cold, hard truth about it. people are going to watch this on the news and hate me for it. believe that. >> and prison officials believe racial pride might have contributed to a recent assault that landed ritchie in the
secured confinement unit. >> what you see here is you'll see ritchie, and there's another guy, a guy out here, and basically they're just hanging out. they already know what's playing. i mean it was premeditated. >> the men are waiting for a black inmate to exit his cell. >> he's immediately met by ritchie. he was actually standing at his door waiting for the door to be opened. and he assaults him and chases him around with another -- this guy here is just kind of being a spectator at this point. you'll see another inmate come running from this side that also aids. now you've got the three white guys running around, assaulting the one guy here. and, finally, they corner him and get him down and all three of them get on him before the officers can actually respond and activate their chemical agents. >> the victim received treatment at a nearby hospital and ritchie was transferred to the segregation unit. >> he has been extremely disruptive and disorderly in our general population. and i've given him multiple chances, so that's the reason i chose to place him in administrative segregation. >> ritchie feels the prison went
too far, and during his interview had something to say to staff about it. >> with all due respect, you know, to you guys, you know, mind your business, man. mind your business, man. if i'm not killing this man or little joey down on the range ain't getting raped, man, just be cool, man. be cool. we don't want no trouble. we live here. >> ritchie claims the fight wasn't racially motivated, but over a small debt. >> it was over a couple dollars. that's about what it comes down to. there was a few choice words and i really don't want to delve too deep into it because i'm not the only one involved in this. i don't want to implicate or talk about anybody else or anything of that nature. coming up -- >> this is what i don't like to see. those are razor blades. >> inmate-made shanks and one of the inmates who makes them. p?p?e
in my neck of the woods, if you've got a problem with a guy, you -- you -- you -- and mind you, nobody -- nobody calls the cops. yo go outside. one of you get beat up. you go back into the bar, and the guy that won buys the beer. >> my name is joshua coffey, but everybody calls me country. >> why do they call you country? >> because i was raised in the sticks. i stole some copper from a local junkyard, and the proprietor of the junkyard owed me some money, and like an idiot, i stole from him instead of trying to go about it the correct way. figure i learned that lesson the wrong way.
>> joshua coffey has served more than four years of his six-year sentence at the wabash valley correctional facility. his job in the kitchen helps him stay focused and out of trouble. >> that's crazy. i came in at 4:30 this morning, and i'll leave about 5:30. so i work 13 hours. >> stacking the line! >> the reason i do it is to get out of my cell, you know, come down here, get a little freedom. you know, eat a little better. the food that they serve doesn't taste bad, but its appeal is horrible. some of the food they serve us looks like cat food. and i'm not even joking. i swear, if you put the food that they give us in a bowl and put a can of premium quality cat food and put it there in front of the inmate -- i'm not even
saying a cat -- put it in front of a person that's locked up, they're probably going to eat the cat food. >> tonight's meal is macaroni, mixed vegetables, bread, butter, and a cookie. while not everyone agrees on the best meal, there seems to be a consensus on the worst. >> the sloppy joe is bad, but that chicken a la king, oh, my god! i was getting the ready to say, i swear you could take a can of alpo and dump it on a plate, and i would rather eat the alpo. >> coffey will soon be able to broaden his food choices. he is due to be released on parole in three months and has a message for his future self. >> you're a dumbass, ain't you? look, you sitting on the couch drinking a beer right now laughing at yourself, aren't you? you idiot! >> nice hands, baby! >> short of being released, the
strongest sense of freedom most wabash inmates ever experience is their time on the outdoor recreation yards. >> for the record, we won that game. >> while rec is a time to enjoy some fresh air and exercise, it is also one of the times inmates are most likely to exchange contraband, including shanks. >> tell us what's going on out here. >> well, right now they're patting down the convicts that are going back in from recreation, to check and make sure they don't have any weapons. i guess there's been a tip that there was going to be some trouble. the officers just line them up, pat them down one at a time, make sure they don't have any weapons on them, pretty much as they come back in, and you'll find a bunch of times after that happens, they'll find a bunch of stuff thrown in the grass. >> as the pat-downs are conducted, officers will search the yard for discarded weapons. >> the inmates were standing watching the game. on this bench over here is always a good place.
you'll see a shank. it could be buried just right underneath the grass. that's the place where they'll drop it and hide it and kick it with their foot right into the grass. this is what i don't like to see. this right here. those are razor blades. that's not something you want to step on. really not something i like picking up. i don't care if you think that's a harmless piece of plastic, but they can literally melt that into here, and then you've got a slashing tool. toothbrush handles and stuff like that. they're quite good at that. >> one inmate in particular at wabash has developed a reputation for his prolific production of homemade weapons. >> brandon siverly has been in possession of multiple weapons multiple different times, which has eventually landed him in administrative segregation. not only does he make the weapons, but he also stores them for organizations or individuals of multiple organizations. at one time he and his cellmate had 22 shanks hidden in their light fixture.
>> brandon siverly would craft knives out of nearly any object he found on prison grounds. >> if it was big enough to put in your hand with a little left over, it was big enough to be sharpened into a weapon. usually i would just keep it on me because it's no good if it's hidden somewhere. if somebody comes on to you and [ bleep ], you ain't got it on you, you can't tell him, hold on, let me go get my knife. thankfully, i've never had to use one. usually if somebody sees one, it's enough to keep them at bay. so you don't usually have to use it. i was prepared to use it. >> siverly was 17 years old when he and a group of friends broke into a home and beat and robbed the occupant. he accepted a plea bargain and was sentenced to 20 years. while at wabash, however, he
received an additional four-years sentence for possession of a dangerous device, a seven-inch-long shank. >> that's a baby. that's a baby. before that, i always tried to make mine at least 10 inches long. that way i had plenty of handle room and plenty of blade. >> siverly's history has resulted him in being housed in the highly restrictive secured confinement unit. while he doesn't like it, he does understand it. >> from their standpoint, how can you have somebody who keeps repeatedly getting caught making mass quantities of knifes in population and keep population safe? even if that person's not stabbing people, he's making the knives that are stabbing people. >> with few possessions and little if any contact with other inmates, siverly has refocused his energy from weapons to art. >> president barack obama, commander in chief of the united states of america. greatest nation ever. so i figured "we fight" was a good statement.
you know, barack obama being half black, the battle he had to fight to get just where he's at, i figured it was a bold statement. >> while siverly might respect obama's battles, he is firm and he won't help black inmates in wabash with theirs. >> i'm not racist, but then again, i know where the lines are in here. so i know that if something goes down, just because i'm not racist doesn't mean if there's a race riot that they're not going to stab me too. i'm not going to arm a black so that a race riot can pop off at any time and all the blacks in the dorms got a knife and, you know, one or two white people's got a knife, so i'm on the losing end. eventually one of them's going to get to me. so i don't want to arm anybody that's going to potentially come back and use it on me, at all. coming up -- >> they all think they're "gq" material. >> inmate picture day at wabash. >> your feet can't be on the wall. >> feet can't be on the wall? man, you're so strict here.
>> whole body again. >> it gives inmates an opportunity to connect with loved ones. >> nah, i'm standing here waiting to get my picture taken so i can send them out to my people. i got a friend out there, she's been writing me off and on for the last three years, so i'll send her one and probably my grandma and my mom and dad. >> all the housing units get them once a month. >> for any inmate willing to pay $1.22, recreational coordinate mark cardinal will take a digital photo and deliver a set of four prints that can be sent to friends and family. >> what's the biggest challenge for you, take all these pictures? >> trying to please them all. they all think they're "gq" material. >> four pictures on one sheet, so it ain't too bad of a deal. other prisons you get one picture for it. >> tim harris is one inmate who never misses picture day. >> every month. this one right here is actually a photo that i took that last month's pictures, which you can
see it has a different background. we took this one inside of rec. so i got my fro out in that one, it's looking a little bit rough. so i didn't send these out too much. i passed these ones out to the guys that i hang around with here, so they had a picture of me to put in their photo album. >> the sun is bright. >> makes a good picture. >> i can't really see too much. the sun is too bright. it's kind of reflecting off the screen. i couldn't see it too good. i guess when it prints out, we'll see how good it is. >> feet can't be on the wall. >> can't be on the wall? man, you're so strict! >> privileges like this are reserved for general population inmates with good behavior records. carlton wright, who is one year into a 50-year sentence for robbery has mostly stayed out of trouble. >> i can't see it? >> carlton wright actually came to prison in 2010, and since he's been in, he's receive add few conduct reports, nothing severe. i had heard that he has a mouth
on him and that he's pretty disrespectful towards staff and other offenders. >> that's the only option? i can't take another one? >> nope. >> so what was the point of seeing -- there was no point of really seeing it, then, right? >> pretty much. >> you don't like it? this is wabash, man. they do what they want to do. i obey the rules here, you know, but sometimes they really want you to be compliant, you know, like puppets. don't do this, don't do that. do it like this, do it like that. [ bleep ] here, eat here, no, cant talk to that person, get off the door! all this [ bleep ] rules. i'm in jail for not [ bleep ] following the rules. >> wright says his attitude is the result of growing up in a tough new jersey neighborhood. >> either you sink or swim, you know what i mean? and i grew a hard exterior because i didn't want to be the victim, and over the course of time, that became a part of my character.
>> and recently wright's character was put to the test. >> he came back from recreation one night and noticed that his tv had been missing, so obviously he knew someone had took it. so he was pretty upset about that, as anybody would be. >> this is the penitentiary. are you serious? people [ bleep ] kill for that, for real, for real. >> surveillance video from the unit shows another inmate standing outside wright's cell. he then enters the cell and then seconds later exits with wright's television. the inmate then places the tv inside another cell. >> someone stole my tv while i was gone, so, you know, when i came back and [ bleep ] things got ugly. >> from what i heard, he approached several offenders, kind of called them out, wanting to know if they had taken his tv. >> i started going from cell to cell, searching my [ bleep ]. i'm going to search everybody's [ bleep ] until i find what i'm looking for. >> wright's aggressive behavior soon created problems with other inmates. >> i'm not looking for trouble,
but at the same time, i'm definitely not ducking them either. you feel me? you know, this is the penitentiary. you've got to stand tall, ten toes down? you know what i mean? you can't take no losses? you know what i mean? it's the wrong place to be a bitch? you feeling me? it's the pressure? you feeling me? you get killed for stealing on the streets, so why not in prison? >> as wright continued his tirade, staff became concerned it would lead to a fight and sanctioned wright for taking matters into his own hands. he was transferred to administrative segregation in the custody control unit or ccu. >> welcome to the belly of the beast, man. i hate lockup. [ bleep ] back here, for real, for real. just make your time hard. all you do is think. when you're in ccu, you don't get really nothing but a bar of soap, some toothpaste, a pair of shower shoes. you're a really in survival mode back here. my hair [ bleep ], i ain't able to get a hair cut or a shave, [ bleep ] none of that. i've been back here just slumming it, you know.
this is the downside of prison, you know what i mean? violence happens, you know? what do you expect? you throw a bunch of violent offenders together and you expect us not to clash? at the end of the day, you better pray you're the one left standing and not hurting. >> as authorities continue to investigate the stolen tv, wright has petitioned to be placed back into his original housing unit. >> at this point, i don't know what's going to be allowed to happen with wright, i don't know if he'll be allowed to return to p-house because of all the animosity he caused himself that night because of his tv, so i'm sure we'll be evaluating his housing assignment. >> while authorities determine a safe housing placement for wright, he will remain in confinement. >>on i don't like it, but i'm adapting. i got to make it work, you know what i mean? these people place you in all kinds of situations to try to break you, but i'm surviving. that's what i'm doing, man. i've got too much time to start crumbling now. >> gerald ritchie is also in one of the confinement units, and
he's not happy about it. >> it's horrible. they had punishment in mind when they built this place. that's a fact. let's make these guys understand that, hey, if you come to prison, this is how you're going to live. this is how you're going to live and we're going to take these rules to the nth degree. >> ritchie says that even though he's in confinement for being one of three white inmates caught assaulting a black inmate, the fight was not racially motivated. but he admits his tattoos are. >> my swastika. even though it's not necessarily the best artistically, it's one of the ones that i'm most proud of, because it means the most on the whole. it's empowering and uplifting. it's a symbol, man. not only does it elicit a response from others, but it elicits a response from myself. that's what symbolism does for you. that's what symbolism has done since the beginning of forever. the right hand is mine, and the left hand means honor. so together they say "my honor." and it's the first half of our
motto that hitler gave, which is my honor is loyalty. they're meant to say something to you without spitting it out and blurting it. so when i look in the mirror, i see these things, man, and i'm on the right track and doing the right thing, man. it makes me feel good. >> when weather permits, confinement inmates are allowed one hour of outdoor recreation. it's in a small cage-like enclosure, but it provides the one chance ritchie has to see friends, like brandon siverly. >> what's happening? >> just chilling. >> it's hot out. >> super hot. >> good we got out here in the afternoon, though. >> a lot better out in the afternoon. you don't get chance to see the sun a whole lot. >> ritchie, he's a really good dude. don't let anybody say you can't make friends in prison. see that, j.j.? >> what happened? >> that's why i didn't play basketball. >> no. you see that?
that's why i don't play basketball. that's why i was sitting right there. it ain't even rocking. >> that's 0-3 right there. i'm on a roll. coming up -- >> well, there was a child molester that got mouthy with one of my buddies, and it escalated quickly, and he took an ass whooping. >> an act of violence threatens joshua coffey's release from wabash. >> the victim gets up, and then they grab him, just shove him against that rail and begin kicking him and hitting him.
this is my bed here, you know, what i sleep on. this is my cellie rack right above me. this is where another man sleeps. understand? out here to the left is my window. that mice window. that's the gate that teases me with freedom. and right there is the highway, i think. see the cars going by, going places i can't go. you feel me? so just trying to paint a picture for you so you can understand what i'm going through. >> carlton wright's picture will change very little in the next 24 years. that's when he's eligible for parole on his 50-year sentence for robbery, bodily injury, and criminal confinement. >> you want to go out right now? all right. >> but has had one bit of good news. he has been released from the confinement unit. he was sent there for threatening other inmates while trying to locate his stolen tv set. >> whatever happened with the guy who stole your tv?
>> i don't know. i ain't seen him yet. >> did you ever get your tv back? >> i got another one. >> so the guy who stole your tv was never prosecuted? he -- >> i don't know. i mean this is wabash. i'm on a trip. this is a small prison. you'll bump up to him again. it's hard to live in a place like this for 40 years and not have an altercation. everybody walks around with a chip on their shoulder. they're under a mindset of i don't care, it's a small group of people. and we put a bunch of angry people in a small facility, [ bleep ]'s going to clash. [ bleep ] happens like that. you never know what's [ bleep ] about to happen. you have to know what conversation not to get involved in, and how to [ bleep ] let go, because if not, you can be in the infirmary fighting for your life. that's what happens, you know? but it come with this prison [ bleep ], man. kids don't see that [ bleep ]. they see money, they see this, what money can get me, but they don't see the consequence of the actions that come with it, until it's too late, you know? you can't really experience
[ bleep ] until you living it. >> me personally? i really don't have no problem with anybody. i may believe in my own set of personal values, but i mean i'm not going to -- i don't hate other people because of who or what they are. >> but there is one type of person that joshua coffey doesn't tolerate. and now one week away from his release, that intolerance will keep coffey in prison longer. >> right now we're watching a video of an assault that happened in p-house unit. right here you see offender anderson walking up the steps and offender coffey walking up behind him and they're preparing to go into a cell and assault someone. >> well, there was a child molester that got mouthy with one of my buddies and, honestly, it just kind of escalated quickly, and he took an ass-whooping. >> the first offender enters the
cell with the second offender, offender coffey, standing outside the door, watching for staff, to make sure they're not going to see this. anderson goes in and starts to rifle through some of the offender's stuff. it appears that anderson is talking to the victim and that they're having a bit of a disagreement. >> child molesters, i think they should take them, chop off their junk, put them on an island, and let them just live together and eventually they would die off. if somebody molested my son, i don't want to come back to prison, but i probably would for murder. >> here in just a second, you'll see where the victim gets up and starts to run out of the cell and tries to defend himself, and then they grab him, shove him against that rail, and begin kicking and hitting him. then the door starts to shut, so they're all getting slammed in the door. then right here you see both of them pushing him back into the cell. all the meanwhile, they're kicking and kneeing and punching, and pretty brutally, at that.
and then when they decide that the victim has had enough, i guess, or they're worried about getting caught, they depart the area, and the victim is standing there on the upper range. his face is bloody, he's leaning against the rail for support, and he's holding his head. he's been worked over pretty good. >> i don't regret it, one bit. >> did you beat him because he was a child molester or because of something else? >> 50/50. i mean honestly, if the guy wasn't a child molester, it probably would have just blowed over. but child molesters are the -- they're the crap on the bottom of my boot if i was out tending stalls. honestly, the guy's got 50 years, and i hope the rest of the time that he's incarcerated, he takes a whooping at least once a month. >> the incident resulted in a postponement of coffey's release. >> offender coffey received commissary loss, segregation
time, which was suspended, and then loss of good time. >> how much time did you lose? >> i only lost a week, but, you know, a week is a week. i regret losing time that i could have spent with my family. and you know what? i apologize. i sincerely apologize, guys. to be honest, i kind of lied to them why i lost a week. because it's kind of hard to tell them the truth. when they see this, they're going to know the truth, but, you know, that's why i apologized, you know. hopefully by then it will have -- everything is smoothed out. there's some people that, they honestly, they don't deserve a second chance. now, i might be one of those people. i don't. because, honestly, i had a second chance. i get released this time, this is my third chance.
coming up -- >> every choice, there's a consequence, man. so before you do something, you've got to think, damn, what's the possible consequence that could happen behind this. >> wabash inmates deal with the consequences of their choices. >> some prison sentences don't end, you know what i mean? it's a hard pill to swallow.
not only are you bleeding like a [ bleep ], but you're doing 50 years. you know what 50 years feel like? people forget about you, man? and not out of spite like [ bleep ], but more or less like, life is busy, man, you know? the average person ain't going to slow down and reach out. >> the notion of being forgotten is something every inmate must contemplate at some point during their incarceration. >> that one? >> yep.
>> i can't do that over, man? >> there's me right there, where your finger is right there. >> tim harris, serving ten years, makes it a point to never miss the prison's photo day, so that he can send pictures of himself to loved ones. >> that ain't bad. i think i should have one in there with some sweatpants on. >> all right, there. >> took a couple pictures to send friends and family. and this is what they look like. as you can see, they're not the greatest quality ever, but they're pictures, you know? they look at them and they get the idea. you know, it's just nice to sometimes see your loved ones. this is the other one i took. it's hard for me. now, you know, my brother, you know, me being locked up and his kids, he wrote me the other day, and when he wrote me, he said, the kids talk to everybody about you all the time and talk about how you used to do everything with them. it's kind of depressing and
stressing, and it's hard to deal, but they know i'm locked up. they understand i'm just locked up, but i hate them having to know that i'm locked up. but i put myself here, and maybe me letting them know where i'm at and telling them how i feel about it will help them from having to come down this road that i do. >> gerald ritchie is only one week away from completing his two-year sentence. >> do the right thing. got it figured out. i got it licked. i got it licked, i promise. i'll get the opportunity to get out twice. got out and ended up coming back both times. i've got brothers in here, man, that are never getting out. talk to people, it makes me feel like i'm selfish, like i'm not taking advantage of something that i absolutely need to take advantage of, because not everybody's got that chance. some prison sentences don't end, you know what i mean?
it's a hard pill to swallow. it's heavy [ bleep ]. i'm not trying to [ bleep ] die in here, but this, you know -- [ bleep ] good at it, but this? just got to get out and stay sober and find a job. that's about what it comes down to. if i'm drinking or doing drugs and i'm employed, how can you go wrong? what could happen? >> in spite of seeing he has release get delayed by seven days because he chose to assault another inmate, joshua coffey's also preparing to go home. >> you already got a job? >> yeah, my brother owns a construction company. >> oh, that's cool. i got a job as soon as i want it. hopefully. as long as he don't get pissed at me for something. >> how do you like that? is that short enough or long enough?
>> a little bit shorter. that's the one good thing. if it's not good, i'll wear a hat anyway. >> you won't be a hat out here? >> i wear. this is my fishing hat now. i will be wearing that hat when i go fishing every time. wearing the hat, honestly, will remind me not to come back. >> first day, i've got that one all the way down. i'm getting out, i have nothing. so i'm going straight to the welfare office, and i'm going to get me my little $137 worth of food stamps, i'm going to the private salvation army to make sure i've got any type of hygiene materials or clothes i need. but after i get all those things done, i'm going to go see a re-entry coordinator, i'm going to call my parole officer, call the na coordinator, and then i'm going to the french lick casino.
>> every choice has a consequence, man. so before you do something, you've got to think, damn, what's the possible consequence that could happen behind this, you know? and a lot of people don't think about that, man. a lot of people don't ponder the outcome of what they doing. they just do it until they realize, damn, man, this consequence is too harsh, what i just did. the reward don't outpay the risk. and before you know it, you're paying with your life, man. i'm paying with my life. i've got 50 years, man? you know, that's a life. i'm 27. 50 plus 27. 77 years old, are you serious? come on, man. that's life.
breaking news overnight, a suspicious device near a new jersey train station explodes as the bomb squad was attempting to disarm it with a robot. brand new video just in. it was the second blast in new jersey since saturday morning and it also followed a bombing that injured 29 people in new york city saturday night. plus, an isis-affiliated news outlet is claiming responsibility for a stabbing attack in minnesota. the fbi is investigating it as a potential act of terror. good morning, everyone, it is monday, september 19th, i'm alex witt alongside louis burgdorf and we are following this breakiew