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they were happening. christie denied it and authorities and prosecutors never said they believed it until today. prosecutors saying that about chris christie in federal court said he knew about the closures while they were happening. that's going to do it for our hour now. m tr mtp daily with chuck todd starts now. >> right now there are big questions about remain unanswered. tonight we are following every turn in this breaking news. we will have new details on the suspect and the investigation. plus, who do you trust to keep the country safe? >> my opponent won't even say the words radical islamic terror. >> i am the only candidate who has been part of the hard decisions to take terrorists off the battlefield.
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>> john casic has a strong message for the head of the rnc. >> i don't take cues on the public arena from him. >> this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good evening. i'm peter alexander in for my friend, chuck todd and a busy day of breaking news after multiple explosions rocked the new york area in what is described as an act of terror. after a manhunt, the authorities have their man and have him alive. the suspect is 28-year-old ahmed khan rahami. you can see the images from earlier today. he was taken away on a stretcher after being shot in the leg. rahami survived. he is being linked to at least four bombing sites from this
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weekend. the blast first in manhattan's chelsea neighborhood injuring 29. several devices in elizabeth and a pressure cooker device was found on 27th street here in manhattan and a device that exploded this sea side park in a trash can on saturday morning as a race was about to begin honoring military veterans after he was taken into custody. he spoke with reporters and here's a look at some of what they know and what remains unanswered. >> we have as i said, every reason to believe this was an act of terror. there is no other individual we are looking for. >> there is no indication there is a celebrating here. we don't have information to show what the path of radicalization was. >> here's what we know about the
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suspect. a u.s. citizen of afghan decent, he attended college in new jersey and worked at his family's restaurant and changed with domestic abuse at point, but that case as we understand it was dropped. how was he radicalize and did he act alone. they are trying to find the answers to those questions and so is his family. we spoke with his father late this afternoon. >> did you know your son was doing this? >> no. >> you had no idea? >> no idea. >> when you hear he has been accused of this, do you believe it? do you believe it? >> i'm not sure what's going on. >> not sure? >> not sure what's happening exactly. i think so. it's very hard right now to talk, okay? >> president obama addressing the unfolding situation earlier today. promising a renewed effort against isis and extremist ideology. we heard from both presidential
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candidates taking very different styles and strategies and how they addressed these bombings. we will have more on that in a moment. we want to dive in right now and pete williams has the latest on the investigation. ayman is in linden, new jersey where he was taken into cust bee and for key analysis, we will go to evan coleman who is a terrorism analyst. we will get the latest on where the investigation stands at the 5:00 hour. >> i think when president obama spoke this afternoon, you showed that picture of him, this morning things were moving so fast, i'm not sure he knew that rahami had been found and detained after a shootout a few miles from the family home in elizabeth. this investigation moved so quickly. as of sunday night, authorities have decided that rahami was their suspect based on a number of factors and evidence from the
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bombs. pictures taken from surveillance video. other kinds of evidence that they exploited and they began to search for him. they searched the family house and they questioned people in the car that was leaving the family house in elizabeth and not able to find him. they decided to issue this public appeal and they put his picture out and name out and hours later, somebody saw him sleeping in the doorway of a bar in linden, new jersey where he got in a shootout and was detained. charges will be filed and local changes from union county, new jersey related to the shootout with police and the federal prosecutors will begin to build their case and we expect the changes will be filed probably in manhattan related to the bombings. authorities are not looking for anyone else and any other bombs, but they say they don't know whether rahami acted alone and if he had help in planning this
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and building the bombs and planting them and becoming radicalized. those are questions they want to try to answer. they are taking a breath from this really amazing pace that led to this arrest just a few hours after the last bomb was planted. >> as for the president, he had been briefed at the time, but didn't want to comment until they were certain it was iron-clad. everything was happening so quickly. earlier law enforcement said they were concerned about an act of terrorism cell that it could be at work in the new york and new jersey area. it appears that that thinking it change and this was a lone wolf attacker. can you give us a sense of where that stands? >> that was confusing and if you look at what was said at the news conference, they discounted the idea there was a cell. they have to stick with what they know.
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they believe he was responsible for the bombs. they don't know of anyone else. they can't say there is a cell. they have no reason to think there is one, but they are open minded about it. if they find other people were involved, they will follow the leads. still unclear where the bombs were built, for example. we heard accounts of whether bomb making materials were found in new jersey where they searched and they may find that and may not. they never said for sure where they thought the bombs were built. >> thank you very much. i want to get to ayman. what more are you hearing on the ground in linden, new jersey. you were among the first to report the details. where do things stand and what is the reaction in that community where there was a familiarity between law enforcement and neighbors and rahami and his family. >> the way that officials are
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describing it, this is still very much an active investigation. you can see several layers. police are working on gathering evidence and bullet casings to try to trace that shootout minute by minute as it unfolded. it began at 10:30 and shortly after an ownership of a bar was making his way in and noticed that individual sleeping in the doorway of it. he thought that was a homeless person and he called police to come and move the gentlemen from there. when police arrived, the first police officer recognized the suspect immediately as amen khan raha rahami. he pulled out a hand gun and shot at the police officer, striking him twice before fleeing on foot. they managed to put out a shots fired call. that drew others to the scene and led to the pursuit of rahami down the street where they engaged in the shootout.
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police on the scene said they found no explosives on him. he was taken alive and he was conscious and alert. he was he had been shot multiple times including once to the leg and the shoulder and he was expected to survive this. more interestingly, the community is shocked by the question of why he chose linden and some tell us that it did not suggest he was working part of a network or a cell and given the fact that he was here alone and he didn't have a network of supporters that he could have taken shelter with to evade capture. >> i appreciate that. evan, what conclusions are you drawing from the evidence that we are learn something to what degree does he appear to be inspired, enabled or directed by isis for some form of an extremist group? >> certainly the type of explosives that were used were the kind of explosives that al qaeda and isis to some degree
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had specifically emphasized or encouraged to build. isis has not issued a claim of credit or responsibility for the act. >> for what they did and what took place in minnesota. >> the knife attack. they claim stabbings in minnesota and not the spree of bomb attacks in new york city. it doesn't make a lot of sense. if it's al qaeda, they haven't said anything either. this was a guy who was found sleeping in a doorstep somewhere. does that sound like a trained terrorist? like someone with a wide network of supporters and affiliates that will protect him. that sounds like somebody who was disturbed. i think the question was, was he radicalized in a visit to afghanistan which seems difficult to believe or is it more likely that he was radicalized and what was it that radicalized him. was it jihadi beliefs or was it a combination of different things?
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it sounds like this is an individual who had a lot of problems. he spent time in jail long before this happened. he violated a restraining order and was sent to prison. the question is why? what was motivating him? this was the same question with omar mateen in orlando. mr. mateen, was he motivated by jihadi beliefs. it looks like a lone wolf extremist regardless of who motivated him to do this, he was a lone wolf. >> an american citizen and came here at a young age and went to college here. a lot of these details that draw concerns for a lot of people across this nation and certainly in that community given the fact that he seemed like a typical new yorker in terms of his past experiences. ayman, pete, evan, i appreciate you being with us. we are joined by new jersey
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congressman who was briefed by the fbi earlier. his district includes elizabeth, new jersey. i appreciate you being with us. this obviously strikes close to home for you and i want to get a sense of your reaction to these attacks and give us a sense of what more you learned today. >> my reaction, i was there when 9-11 happened and the reaction we have seen from 15 years ago until now is amazing with the coordination and they are working together. all the departments to get a swift action and arrest this individual. it really is to be commended, the work they have done. we were briefed with the fbi and what was told before, they arrested him. >> had they heard of him if not on a watch list, they had any reason to have suspicions about him or his family. >> they didn't commend on that.
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they said they had five other people that they have in custody. >> let me ask more broadly. what are you saying to the people you represent for better or worse from a lot of the fears in the united states. with the law enforcement individuals, go about your everyday business and i think we are well served by this department and they should not be concerned we are not moving fast enough. we moved fast enough when we arrested rahami. >> they were picked up along the verrazano bridge and we know the relationship. they were family members to ahmed, but -- >> rahami contacted my office in the year 2014 because he wanted
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his wife to come from pakistan. >> he wanted his wife to come from pakistan and contacted your office. did his wife get to the united states? >> i assume she did. at the time she was pregnant and they told her that she could not come over until she had the baby and had to get a visa for the baby. he was nasty too. >> the five family members have all been released and none was charged. the congressman, thank you for your time. appreciate it. this weekend's events bring promises back on the campaign trail and how it continues to shape this presidential race. stay right here on "mtp daily" where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job?
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. coming up, the investigation surrounding the new york city bomb suspect is playing out on
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the campaign trail and with the issue of terror front and center, tune in for all day coverage of the first presidential debate. it is monday, september 26th, one week away live from hofstra university. it will begin here at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. don't miss the live telecast of the debate moderated by lester holt. followed by coverage of the post debate team as well. back live here in 60 seconds. americans are buying more and more of everything online. and so many businesses rely on the united states postal service to get it there. because when you ship with us, your business becomes our business. that's why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. the united states postal service. priority: you
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from 9/11 to san bernardino, we have seen how failures to screen who is entering the united states puts all of our citizens, everyone in this room at danger. let me state very, very clearly. immigration security is national security. >> the bombings have shifted the
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attention of the race back to foreign policy and national security and terrorism. donald trump is blaming the obama administration and hillary clinton for emboldening terrorists. in an interview, trump called for racial profiling, knocking the hell out of isis, he said. he said the people who print anything that could give terrorists ideas should be arrested. clinton not mincing words herself. calling trump a recruiting tool for isis. >> i think it's important for voters to hear this and weigh it in making their choice in november. we know that a lot of the rhetoric we have heard from donald trump has been seized on by terrorists, in particular, isis. i am the only candidate in this race who has been part of the hard decisions to take terrorists off the battlefield. >> trump doubled down on the
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hard line position of admitting refugees to the u.s. >> you can't have vetting if you don't look at ideology. hillary clinton refuses to consider an applicant's world view and thus their likelihood of being recruited into the terror cause at some later date. that is going to happen in many, many cases. >> trump points out that clinton is proposing a 550% increase in refugees, raising the current number from 10,000 to 65,000. she first addressed this issue almost a year ago, september 20th of last year. today clinton stressed her plan includes tough vetting. i want to get to my first guest who served as ambassador to nato and a 230erforeign policy advis. >> donald trump hit it
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repeatedly. this550% increase. they did say she would like to have 65,000 rev news be able to come in the united states. the vetting process is extensive and we are not talking about the young muslim men. >> the vetting process is for immigrants. that's for the person who tried to inflict terrorism on new yorkers. that's really, really harsh and strong and takes up to 18 months to two years to get through the process. for refugees, it's the same thing. it's not as if the government is not vetting people. in the case of the terrorism who terrorized new york over the last 72 hours, he was 7 years old when his family came here as immigrants. you have to find out what problem this is. was he acting alone and if he was, how did he self radicalize and what's the responsibility of
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family and communities. if he was not acting alone, then of course you may be dealing with international or national terrorism that is much more virulent and secretary clinton said, you have to have a tough minded approach and someone experienced to lead the effort. >> all through investigating. to be clear about that 65,000 refuge refuge refugees, she would want to get to those most vulnerable including christians and brutalized with a religious minority. the question that a lot of people are focusing on at home as they sort of digest this, we have been fighting this isis and extremist ideology for at least a decade over eight years and we still don't feel safe. >> i was a career diplomat and served in republican and democrat administrations and
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terrorism got both political parties. it's unfair for donald trump to say this is a democratic problem when both parties have struggled with it. we need to employ every ounce of power and intelligence to fight it. you have to strike at the state at its core in places like syria and iraq. if someone self-radicalized in the united states as someone who came here as an immigrant or refugee. we need to be able to strengthen the efforts of police and intelligence authorities to do their job. >> she spoke about the surge and the idea of racial profiling saying it works in places like israel and it's a concept she doesn't like. we have to do it to keep america safe. why is that wrong? >> we saw mike rogers saying on another network, he thought that was not the right way to go.
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criminal, but not racial profiling. it never works in our society. we are getting from donald trump, rambo-like statements. we are getting toughness and leadership and we have to help law enforcement and the agents to deal with the problem. that's the more effective approach. >> representing the clinton campaign. nice to see you in person. we hope you will stay with us. we will be right back with more. ...clear for take off. see ya! when you're living with diabetes. steady is exciting. oh this is living baby! only glucerna has carbsteady,
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moments ago, president obama spoke out about the ongoing terror investigation. he praised law enforcement where he devoted the suspect with speed and efficiency. take a listen. >> that are individual has been apprehended and i just want to start by commenting on the extraordinary work and coordination that has taken place between the fbi and local law enforcement. for us to apprehend a suspect in just a little over 24 hours after an event takes place like this. it is outstanding police work. >> joining us now, our panel is a "new york times" reporter. a distinguished fellow and senior fellow. republican strategist and
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founder, give us a sense and the bottom line is what we witnessed today evidence of the system that combatting terrorism is working or failing? >> it's clearly not working because we wouldn't be seeing instance after instance on this. hillary clinton is getting a methodical response. right after a terrorist incident, people are acting with their heart and not their head. >> the question to you, is that television? she needs to impress upon people to act with their head. she said i am the only one working on national security issues like this who is in this race right now. this does benefit donald trump. >> as americans are watching the issue, what they want is
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responsible behavior and want people to be tough and speak tough and they want solutions. it might get perceived that he has a more sane approach. >> especially in a debate with a one-line answer. >> he would be better served. or you can't say they will keep this out? i was browsing through the numbers and if you ask americans who they trust to fight terror, they say donald trump. if you are asked who you trust to keep them safe, hillary clinton wins. here's what they said earlier.
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perhaps it will happen more and more. they know who a lot of these people are. they are afraid to do anything about it. they don't want to be accused of profiling and they don't want to be accused of all sores of things. we will have to do something extremely tough like knock the hell out of them. >> that was about as specific as he got. knock the hell out of them. hillary said his secret plan is no plan whatsoever. when does the challenge go from tough language to the requirement that he has specifics. she does better on the questions of how would you handle terrorism or national security. who would be a better commander in chief. his chaos in this eruption and
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people want to see that targeted at washington. it is less comforting to them in a moment of crisis like this and to some extent the convention it will attributes of a leader and the 10-point plan and experience in the white house or in national security actually does make a difference. he has moments that seem to be right for him and he can't capitalize on it. he does have the plan you want to hear and he spikes the football and he said i called it. it's not what people want to hear. >> the pulse nightclub and after san bernardino. her numbers rose and his numbers stayed static.
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>> is this the surprise some. >> we are talking about the deplorables. >> if you listen to the comment where he said the police know who these guys are. any suggestion that the police thought this guy would be involved in a terror attack is incorrect. i don't that for a minute and most americans don't. >> here's a strong argument when it comes to allowing 65,000 refugees into the country. that's something he can capitalize on. if we do have a surprise and it's domestic, if it's international, she can. it's something he can jump on and he can do better in the polls. if it's international, she will do better in the polls.
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>> i don't take clues on what i'm going to do from him. i will decide what i want to decide and let people know when i want to. i'm not going to be hurried into this and we will see what happens. >> that was ohio governor john casic highlighting the riff between casic and the republican party. he refused to endorse trump and unmoved by the efforts to get elected officials to lineup behind the party's presidential nominee. he hit back on face the nation suggesting there will be consequences if humans like casic and ted cruz and jeb bush refuse to back trump this time around and try to run again in 2020. >> people who agreed to support the nominee who took part in the process, they used tools from the rnc and agreed to support the nominee and we are a private
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party. they need to get on board. if they are thinking they are going to run again some day, i think we are going to evaluate the process of the nomination process and it's not going to be that easy for them. >> john weaver shot back with a blistering statement that said at least in part, kasich is not able to stand up for wore principals or beliefs. this can actually win a national election and improve our country. trump himself weighed in this morning and took the rnc chair's side. here he was. >> these people all want to run in four years. if i were the head of the republican party, i would say you can't do it. >> this is a big deal for him. he is up for reelection and picking a fight with the never trump may put his own chairmanship in jeopardy. if trump falters, it will be
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tough to live down this threat. if trump wins, the crowd may be on the outside of the gop looking in. coming up here on mtp daily, we will be joined by the new york governor as he unites democrats and focuses on the bombing investigation. keep it here. you are watching "mtp daily" it's not something you do now and then. or when it's convenient. it's using statof-the-art simulators to better prepare for any situation. it's giving offshore teams onshore support. and it's empowering anyone to stop a job if something doesn't se right. at bp, safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. at bp, safety is never being satisfied. let's ju get a sandwich peoplor something. you don't just learn how to drive... or solve the world's problems... be a dad... "or something" and we don't just make sandwiches "or something"
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a "new york times" siena poll has clinton narrowly leading donald trump in a-way lead. gary johnson with 9%. he will not be a part of the first debate. in georgia trump leads by three points in a new monmouth poll. the same margin as the "wall street journal" maris poll earlier this month. mitt romney won georgia by eight points in 2012. florida and georgia are toss upstates and must wins for trump. hard to find trump able to find a path to 270 electoral votes without those states. coming up with 50 days to go, we are hitting the campaign trail next.
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let's get to more on the race with our round table. nick with the "new york times" and bob herbert and susan dell purseio. hillary clinton in philadelphia focusing on the millennial population that has been a core part that barack obama used to propel himself to the white house twice. for hillary clinton, it's a tougher road. her numbers are not nearly as impressive. is this something you can change in the course of 50 days? where is that gap and how do you accommodate it? >> the enthusiasm is not great with millennials and to a certain degree among african-american voters. i think she can do it and the debates can make a difference, but one of the problems is the millennials are so young, a lot of them don't remember when the ralph nader candidacy played a roll and don't understand the difference between the bill clinton presidency and george w.
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bush. >> you were three or four years old when 9/11 happened. it's a striking consideration. i were showing 9% for gary johnson. he is not going to reach the 15% threshold needed to be on the debate stage. the numbers wane if you are not side by side. he appears to be scraping away the individual who is were frustrated with either of those candidates. she can use part of the obama coalition. she said you can vote now. that's the best hope for helping her with that group. >> what is her best hope that was group. they have been in college towns specifically in ohio talking to young voters.
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what is striking as you flip and saw the emmys last night and despite all the talking points, a lot of the individuals and there is not will.i.am, yes we can videos like we saw four years ago. >> that's correct. barack obama was a cultural phenomenon and not just a candidate. i'm not sure hillary clinton does not quite have that. popular in hollywood though. i'm not sure any candidate has better articulated a message better than bernie sanders, especially on college debt. their problems are jobs and college debt and he went at that. he said he will make college free and hillary clinton saying sort of free. mostly free. it's just not as captivating, having been there, it's hard to be as excited as in the primary
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for the left leaning millennials. >> i want to talk about the issue of birtherism. having individuals with a silver star medal praise him as carried live on cable tv. he said in the course of like 30 seconds, president obama was born in this country. is this issue done specifically in the african-american community, is this a motivating issue? >> it is so not done. >> will it get young black men? >> i don't think the issue itself will, but barack and michelle obama will -- the birther issue makes is very personal for the obamas. but his legacy is at stake. we will work that community like crazy to get turn out up for hillary clinton. >> he said it would be a personal insult at the black talk us and speaking this weekend and in as strong of terms as we heard, it would be
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an insult for the community and i would consider it such if you didn't come out and support hillary clinton which is supporting the legacy that i created here. does that translate and is that an effective message? >> it's not that effective coming from that group. if you can have president obama doing it and michelle obama doing that message, they are the only ones who can do it. the donald trump team is trying to use it as a way of suppressing votes, saying hillary clinton started it which is not factually correct. it muddies the waters though and he wants another bite at the apple. he didn't take press questions that day. it's going to come up again and say what made you change your mind. you didn't just wake up on tuesday and say the president was born here. we knew that, but what changed his mind? >> stick with us. we'll be right back. e unitedtates postal service to get it there. that's why we ke more ecommerce deliveries to homes
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back now live on mtp daily. we are joined by new york governor, andrew cuomo. thanks for making the time, we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> earlier today with my college, andrea mitchell, you raised the possibility that ahmad rahami had foreign or local accomplices. can you give us a sense of the latest right now on what investigators believe and are telling you? >> well, that is going to be the next question, if you will. was rahami acting alone? was he a quote/unquote, lone wolf. did he have accomplices?
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if he had accomplices, did they have foreign connections? on the videotapes, peter, you see a number of individuals, apparently participating in the actions. so, there is a very legitimate question, whether or not he had accomplices. but that is, in some ways, the investigation going forward, that was post-apprehension. we're just -- we've had an extraordinary couple of days here, as you know, and we're just very pleased that in a such a short period of time, this man was apprehended. so we said that justice would be swift, but it was so swift that it even surprised us. >> so very quickly, so you said that we're still trying to figure tout details about those other individuals that may have been accomplices. can the people of the new york and new jersey, the tristate area feel comfortable right now that there was no looming threat out on the streets, still, even after rahami has been taken into custody? >> yeah, we have no reason to
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believe there is any threat from rahami or from -- that there is any rahami cell. but, peter, the -- that's a global statement. you know, my attitude as governor of new york is, in a post-9/11 world, you're the state of new york, you're probably one of the largest targets for terrorists in the world. you have to be on your toes every day. the new normal is, be vigilant and be ready and that's what we are. that's how we live our life here. not just new york, but you have medium-sized cities, all across the country. so this threat, we believe, has been resolved. but, tomorrow's another day. >> no doubt. certainly in this area. earlier in this hour, i was speaking to new jersey congressman, alfio cirrus, and he said that rahami contacted his office in 2014 because he wanted his wife to come from
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pakistan. do you know anymore details about that? he said that rahami was very nasty in his dealings with his office. was there anymore information about that relationship and whether or not she ever came from pakistan to the united states? >> not that i know of, peter. you know, this is all unfolding over a relatively short period of time. once rahami's name has been out there, and we're getting all sorts of rumors, i don't know what's true and what's not true. >> understood. >> about his connections with pakistan, afghanistan. >> let me just conclude by asking you this question right now. the question i guess a lot of americans will be asking as they sort of gauge the two candidates in this presidential race right now, donald trump saying that the leaders that presently exist in this country are weak and in his words, stupid today. others suggesting this was an effective operation and this is the way the system works. is this evidence that our efforts to combat homegrown terrorism are working or that they're failing, that this even happened in the first place?
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>> well, look, as often is the case, the truth is somewhat nuanced, right? there was a bomb that was detonated and 29 people were injured. another bomb did not go off. bombs in new jersey, some did, some didn't. can you stop every bomb from going off? no. do we start a remarkable number that the public doesn't even know about? yes. do we have the best intelligence function on the globe? yes. but if the test is no bomb should go off, that's not going to happen. if when a bomb goes off, you are quick and effective at finding the person, i don't think you can have a better example of a better coordinated police response, fbi, new york state police, nypd, et cetera. and literally, within a matter of hours, the man was tracked down and was in custody.
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so it depends on how you want to frame the argument. i think it's unrealistic to say there should be no bombs, no terrorist activity on home ground soil. you're not -- you will never get there if that is the test. >> and if i can, governor, very quickly, the u.n. general assembly, of course, is here. the president of the united states is here today with a series of meetings today. his big touted speech before the assembly will take place tomorrow. are you confident in the security that exists in this city right now and what unique, i guess, efforts are being put into place right now given what we've witnessed in the course of the last 48 to 72 hours? >> we will have, peter, more police and security personnel on the ground tlan probably has ever existed in the state of new
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york. the nypd has increased. the federal department of homeland security has increased. i've sent another 1,000 national dguar and new york state police down. so we will probe have the largest number you've ever had. but on this entire topic, my point of view is this. in a post-9/11 world, with the frequency always increasing, this is a reality we're going to have to deal with. i am right now redesigning penn station, laguardia airport, jfk airport. our main terminals and they will have a level of security that we've never seen before. that is the world we now live in. >> right. >> and you're not going to stop it with bluster and with threats. the anger is real and the anger is portable and it's here. >> all right. >> the best we can do is knock down as many as we can.
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>> governor -- >> and once someone does do something wrong, we grab them. >> it hate to interrupt you, governor andrew cuomo, with thanks for your time. thanks to our panel, as well, nick, bob, and susan. that's all for us tonight. chuck back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." "with all due respect" starts right the now. on "with all due respect" tonight, we are covering all the political angles of the terrorism-related incidents that spanned three states over this past weekend. today, the man believed to be responsible for saturday's explosions in manhattan and new jersey, 28-year-old ahmad khan rahami, was taken into custody after exchanging fire with garden state police. authorities say rahami is a naturalized u.s. citizen, who was born in afghanistan and reportedly traveled there several years ago, although there is no direct evidence that links him to the islamic state, al qaeda, or other international

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