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>> nicole wallace, and jon meacham, and david ignatius. so much going on. just out this morning the latest nbc news survey monkey online poll shows hillary clinton leading. >> up five points, 50 to 45. this is how topsy-turvy this has been. yes i felt like there was going to be a counter and i didn't expect it this fast. we have other polls that show she is doing pretty darn well. >> everything will reset on tuesday, after the debate. >> i don't know when the dates of the polling ended, but the impact of the events over the weekend here in new york city,
you don't know -- i don't now how that impacts people's feelings. >> lester holt will be talking front and center about terrorism, and we will have to see whose advantage that works to. >> clinton is within striking distance in georgia as well, and inside the margin of error. >> that's a tie. >> striking distance in a state a democrat has not won in 50 years, and a new poll shows trump trails 51 to 30 as of this morning in new york. >> there's weeping and gnashing of teeth and people wearing sack cloth over the last week saying
donald trump was going to be president of the united states. and you heard it's over, and -- i just love those maps they do in september. those maps in september are worthless, but it does look right now like there's a slight push back by supporters of hillary? >> she had one of the roughest stretches of the general election cycle in the post labor day period, and she had put together and executed a near flawless convention, and that bump coupled with his disastrous summer coupled with the labor day. i think if you are a trump supporter, you are happy he called it a bomb before anybody else did, and if you are a clinton supporter you were pleased and reassured to see her
wrafpet up her talk. >> the fbi is set to resume their investigation into the suspect caught this weekend's bombings. he is being treated after being shot. he was charged with five counts of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer and two counts of a weapon. the two officers shot by raw mommy. officer hammer is being kept for observation after a bullet grazed his head. so the politics of counterterrorism dominated the race for the white house yesterday as hillary clinton and donald trump, as nicole
mentioned, contrasted their domestic threats. >> we have to hit them much harder over there, and you know, our local p police are amazing and they don't want to be accused of profiling. but israel has done an unbelievable job and they profile. they see somebody suspicious, they will profile and take that person and check out, do we have a choice? look what is going on. do we really have a choice, and we're trying to be so politically correct in our country and this is only going to get worse. we will have to do something extremely tough over there. >> like what? >> like knock the hell out of them. we're not knocking them, hitting every once in a while and being very gentle about it, and we're going to have to be tough. >> i have been very clear, we're
going after the bad tpwaoeuz and we are going to get them but we are not going to go after an entire religion and give isis what its wanting in order for them to enhance their possession. we know donald trump's comments have been used online for recruitment of terrorists. we have heard that from former cia director michael hayden, who made it a very clear point when he said that donald trump is being used as a recruiting sergeant for the terrorists. we also know from the former head of our counterterrorism center, matt olson, that the kinds of rhetoric and language that mr. trump has used is giving aid and comfort to our adversaries. >> so mike barnicle you have two distinct views of counterterrorism there, and
donald trump being asked, i think on "fox & friends," and he is saying, we have to hit him hard, and what is your policy, knock the hell out of them, and i am not sure they teach that at west point as a counter measure. the law enforcement officers knew who these people were but were scared to get them, and that tends to be an insult to the nypd. >> i think it's important to stop here and take note of the uninformed talk from donald trump. the deputy commissioner had to do with the intelligence, and
within 24 hours, the combination of the new york city and the fbi and the new jersey police departments involved they tracked down and apprehended the suspect. no cop is afraid to do this. >> willie, an extraordinary job by the nypd. within 24 hours, and yet you have a presidential candidate out there saying these guys knew who they were. this doesn't have to happen and they are being politically correct. if they know who they are, they would have stopped the bombing? >> we have come to expect an utter lack of policy prescription, so when he says knock the hell out of them, that's what he is saying, and it's new for him to accuse the police departments and law enforcement and the fbi and those that cracked the case in 38 hours total.
>> it gets to the daily and hourly work that the fbi -- all of them the do on a daily bases, the plots and the people have apprehended and stopped, who is known to us, and david ignatius, you know a bit about this as we do here. can you speak to this issue. >> i think you put it exactly right. the big takeaway of the story to me is the efficiency with which police and law enforcement in new york and new jersey were able to close in and the action of responsibility citizens. secretary clinton talked about the need not to cower or be resilient, and talking about citizens taking appropriate action when they saw threatening objects, and trump goes for the sound bite. in counterterrorism, everybody i talk to says the key to
effective work are muslim communities in the united states, and that's the only chance we have to see people before they act. they are not in touch with al qaeda central or with isis in raqqa, for the most part, and they are lone wolves and it's the community on which we depend and the comments about profiling makes american muslims think we are a different set of americans and maybe people think we don't have a stake in that, and that's going to hurt. >> jon meacham? >> i think david is right, and one thing we can say about the 2016 election, there's not a lot of ambiguity, right? we know the choices. it's the gut versus the brain. as i was watching the duelling statements yesterday thinking about the moment in the first debate with romney four years ago, remember when romney came out and was a "mission
impossible" guy, and he ripped a mask off and was different than he had been, and that's not going to happen here, and trump is trump and hillary is hillary, and i think the country will have to make -- will have the ability to make a clear choice here. >> i wonder what you make of this. at his rally in florida yesterday donald trump offered his critical take on the local process that will follow the capture of bombing suspect. >> today we have caught the evil thug, thank you, law enforcement. now for the bad part. we will give him amazing hospitalization. he will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world. he will be given a fully modern and updated hospital room, and
he'll probably even have room service knowing the way our country is. on top of all of that, he will be represented by an outstanding lawyer. his case will go through the various court systems for years, and in the end people will forget and his punishment will not be what it once would have been. what a sad situation. we must have speedy but fair trials, and we must deliver a just and very harsh punishment to these people. >> what do you say to something like that? what do you say? he is in the hospital and being treated and he will inbound a prison or jail infirmry, and
it's such nonsense. what donald trump is saying, maybe -- >> that was what he was saying for real, maybe just a rif, a stupid and irresponsible rif, and sometimes he does that and i wonder what he means what he says and sometimes i think he is damaging and i expressed myself that i worry that these rifs are damaging, but when the campaign writes that, that's what you are voting for republicans? republicans, that's what you are voting for? >> we did -- >> that's what you are voting for and got? >> by the way, they are not pampered. donald trump should try going to where this guy is going to go, and i don't think --
>> does he want it to be russia? >> i don't know donald trump would want the same public -- whoever the lawyer is going to be, and it's going to be a public defender most likely, and i don't think donald trump would want the state picking on a low hourly rate his attorney. >> i would like to ask donald j. trump this question, after they shot and wounded him, they cuffed him. i bet he said, that hurts. do you think the cops cared? he's not pampered or babies? >> i think he does say things impossible to respond to. and we are just watching from the sidelines, and she is running a wild scoundrel who is proudly keeping his taxes to himself and boasts about buying political influence from the
politicians of both sides of the aisle and says irresponsible things and yet in the moment he is close to her in the battleground states, and she has pulled ahead in the national polling, and there are some things he says to some people the answer to the way debates have gone, and she is responding kind. >> shortly after new york governor and former prosecutor, like we needed a voice of reason here, but we will take one, but andrew cuomo responded. >> welcome to america, right? we have a system of jurisprudence, and you are innocent until proven guilty and you have a right to counsel and a right to hospitalization if you are ill. that is our system. it's what makes this country special and what makes this country great. sometimes the government is wrong and that's why we
judicial process and trials and hearings and et cetera. i don't know what the alternative would be, unless you said we should have a government that on their own belief is judge and jury and execution or all in one. >> could be like putin and could just, you know, shoot people that you don't like. journalists -- >> this is not funny. that happens. >> you can shoot business people you don't like, just kill them all. that's one vision of how you do it. i think most americans are comfortable how we have been doing it over 240 years. still billionaires get off the bench and can they help put donald trump over the top? later, congressman adam schiff,
and senator rand paul who is working to block a billion dollar sale of american weapons to saudi arabia. looks like the cease-fire is already breaking down, and we will get the latest bad news there. if there are any chances at all of reviving that seat ficease-f. we needed the rain in the east and we did get it. the drought in the northeast has been well documented this summer, and this fall, we are heading into it this week, and there's heavier rain around virginia beach and we have a flood watch in effect from that area. most of the rain will be cut off around the norfolk area, and today the other story, we only have two more full days of summer here and there's no relief from the heat whatsoever. a hot end of summer forecast. today in the 80s or 90s from denver to dallas and 98 today.
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of the top of mind for the democratic nominee yesterday. >> she was down 17 points over the last month with millennials? >> yeah. >> she is at 31% this month, minus 17. gary johnson picks up 13 from 16 to 29. that's crazy. >> and stein got the other 4%. if i am in the white house, young people will always have a seat at any table, where any decision is being made. i worked with bernie sanders on a plan. we came up with a plan that makes public college tuition free for working families and debt free for everyone. >> i do spend a lot of time on the details of policy, like the
precise interest rate on your student loans, right down to the decimal. but that's because it's not a detail for you, it's a big deal. of course, politics can be discouraging. this election in particular, can be down right depressing sometimes. this is going to be close. we need to be everybody off the sidelines, and not voting is not an option and it plays into trump's hands. it really does. >> it's so tough when you want the kids to come to you. i have seen tv networks before that said i know how we are going to get millennials, we will have young bloggers host shows. and it does not work. you know, one of my favorite over the last five or ten years, one of my favorite examples of how that is such stupid network
tv thinking is bob schafer, 72 years old, wins the demo, right? >> chris matthews is huge among college campuses. >> they love "hardball." >> and bernie sanders, best example, a 74-year-old, a rock star. >> yeah. >> i don't know. if you are hillary clinton, how do you reach out to millennials, i don't know saying we are going to have young people at the tables -- >> they don't go to tables anymore. they skype. >> online. >> and yeah, president obama at the congressional black caucus, and i think his message was spot on and this must be an area, and joe biden speaks well to young
people and young families, and president obama has gone out and created the vote. >> has bernie worked that hard enough? >> i don't know that his supporters buy his sale. obama mentioned saturday night, if you care about me and michelle, don't let us walk into the sunset and protect my legacy and the voters available to her will be responsive to that message. >> what a surprise that gary johnson, after fumbling a basic question about one of the most depressing foreign policy debacles of all-time picks up 14 points with millennials? >> he is cool and climbs mountain -- >> he smokes a lot of pot. >> he also smokes a lot of pot, it is said.
i think hillary clinton is not entirely convincing pitching for young voters, but she's doing exactly what she needs to do. she has to speak to this grab. young voters do care about student loans. i think the biggest mistake she could make is to sound phoney, and that's the impression i have, trying to be pandering to kids and saying a lyric from a rock song or something, and i think she's trying to do what she needs to do, and just to go back to our earliest discussion, the most interesting number i saw in the last 24 hours is a fox news poll that says 61% of those polled believe hillary clinton is qualified to be president, and only 45% believe donald trump is, and that's the number that comes into play when we have events like the terrorism incident in new york, and i think that's what she's got to lean on, is that basic bedrock feeling. she's done it and this other guy hasn't. >> willwillie, you can't be
condescending. i always used to do that to joey, and i would walk in and say, hey, guys, you have listened to the strobe lately. >> yeah, and saw especially with google. i think over 55% want change and those are the cross pressures she faces. >> it's not just think millennials don't think hillary clinton is cool, and in the polls the numbers are in the low 20s when she says what she believes, and that's the lowest among the millennials. there's the bernie sanders affect, and they did think he was straightforward. >> the person you want to go to when it comes to millennials is jon meacham, because he will find a boring historical parallel that will put them all
to sleep. >> when millennials were voting on the indian french war, support tended to be a little low. you have the most packaged candidate in modern memory in many ways with secretary clinton and the most provocative with trump. i think -- i don't think the age group is going to be that different throughout. joe, i remember it has been 12 years, god help us, sitting with you in midtown, and you said, you know, if the young voters show up, if young voters had shown up we would be talking about president kerry, so what is it? every campaign tends to count on some sort of last-minute surge in that demographic, but it tends not to happen, right? >> right. i always say everybody that was getting around the table breathlessly saying the young people will come up with john kerry tonight, the young people, and they were praying and trying to push him over the finish
line, and i would go to town hall meetings, and young people, why don't you ties on young radio stations? because you don't vote. if i target 65-year-olds, i know they will vote, and you just never go out and vote, and i have the numbers to show you don't vote. i think that changed some with barack obama, right? >> unique to him, i think they voted. >> that's different. >> why? >> because he's a young father. >> and a aspirational message. >> you look at these millennials and you say, hey, look, here is your choice, and there will only be two of us that will be president of the united states, him or me. if you really believe that gary johnson is going to be president of the united states, good luck to you. but if you really don't believe that, here's your choice, me or
him. think about it. >> mika, what were you saying hillary clinton's message to millennial women could be? >> i think it's tonal and optical, but i don't think her presentation need to be pandering or happy for young people or super acting like a candidate in front of the crowds, and she should center in and her best delivery is queen like, and she needs to speak to young women about being their gateway and own it, and they don't mind that at all and i know young women that like that about her, and she should retain the support she has right now, and the campaign and whoever is talking to her, they need to get out of her head, there is no screaming or pandering, nothing she can do technically that will compete with donald trump but
being elegant, quiet, and holding on to the moments like this is the way she is going to connect. it doesn't work any way up for her. she's up against a tv guy that knows how to do it at every angle, and owns the stage and has a presence and ora that goes with it whether you like it or not it connects, it connects to the awful vein that he has cut into with negativity and not doing anything good with it. i think that she actually has incredible presence when she is not trying to go into the training she received from the people they think they know who she should be. does that make sense? >> it's like what i said about george w. bush, and all over the place and talking about pork rinds, and listening to country music when i drive around in
limousine, and -- no! i want the policy walk. i want the guy that is self assuring. i want the guy that is really the guy that i respect, and that americans respect. >> that's david's point. >> yeah, and that's what hillary clinton needs to do, which i think david said about 45 minutes ago. coming up, getting a millennial to explain to you. this is an incredible story. getting a millennial to explain why skittles have been the top story overnight. how it was pulled in the most horrific way. we'll be right back. when it helps give a lifesaving vaccine to a child in need. ♪ thanks to customers like you, walgreens "get a shot. give a shot." program has helped provide 15 million vaccines
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at least 13 people were killed in the bombings, and just now the u.n. humanitarian aid agency says all convoys in syria are suspended in the wake of the attack. >> david ignatius, give us the latest. >> i want to begin by saying, poor tragic syria, and a week ago it looked like we had a brokered u.s. and russian brokered cease-fire. and the u.s. by accident struck a syrian army position east of syria killing 60 syrian soldiers and the syrians were irate. monday we have a hideous bombing of an aid convoy and the first
time it has been hit in the five years of the war, and 18 trucks were hit and i am told there were over 20 barrel bombs walked on the aid vehicles, at least 18 people were killed, and aid is now suspended to the people in aleppo, who are literally starving because of lack of food. secretary kerry is trying to rehabilitate this process, but you would have to say right now it has sunk back into the dark after a brief moment of light, and it's a tragedy. >> david, one of the questions that i don't know anybody has answer to and maybe you have insight into it. secretary kerry has been trying to get the cease-fire for weeks, and they managed to get some sort of a cease-fire done and as you pointed out it has collapsed. how much sway do the russians actually have over the syrian government and president assad? >> i heard in the last week from
people around secretary kerry the question, is it possible for the russians to make the syrians do what they want? the syrians feel that they are winning, that they are on a roll, and i believe there's splits between the russian command, and that's not the one thatrevails. it's also true, as russia has trouble controlling its ally, we have trouble controlling the opposition forces, which are thoroughly inner la thoroughly enterlaced with terrorists. >> we know the mistakes, and the red line and saying assad must go and not following up on those and we are where we are now.
but can the united states do here? we have heard about safe zones but i don't know how you have a safe zone when agovernment dropping a barrel on aids. >> they tried to create a little space for some process to go forward and that's what has been shattered in the last to days. in terms of what can be done. there's a major campaign in the east that is converging toward raqqa, the isis capital, and that's continuing and should continue. i think filling the space where opposition forces are with assistance and more people on the ground and with more money and help, and this is a crisis that will roll right out of syria towards europe.
>> am i out of it when i say this would not have happened 20 years ago? somebody? if you had any nation state barrel bombing an aid convoy to help people in the middle of the cease-fire, their airplanes would be destroyed on the ground the next day by a unified front, an international force. do we not have international organizations to stop rwandas from happening. >> i think you just nailed the heart of the problem. this nightmare has been allowed to continue because nobody really wants to put the effort in to stop it and in truth the only military force has been russia, and why was it russia
was the country that decided it would come in and intervene and help restore order how it defines order? somehow the people creating a more decent syria has not been able to get it together to this day to be affective. >> again, and maybe i am incorrect here as well, but weren't the french ready to go in to syria after assad crossed the red line, but wouldn't do so because they didn't feel like we were backing them? >> the french were waiting for our cue to launch military attacks back at the time of the use of chemical weapons. in this story, joe, it is -- the degradation of standards, and the use of chemical weapons without reprisal is part of the story, and the use of barrel bombs, and attacking a convoy. >> if you write a book about the unraveling of syria after his horrific crisis ends, who were
the actors that you put the blame on for allowing the degradation of standards, of international normals that we simply would not have allowed 10 or 15 or 20 years ago. >> at the top of the list, surely it has to be the president of syria who used chemical weapons on his own people haorbgs attacked yesterday an aid convoy that was trying to relieve starving syrians in aleppo, and i think another character in the story was the united states who was understanding allergic to committing u.s. forces in another country and retrained from it and i get where he was, and as joe suggested, the united nations we have an international organization that is supposed to be able to intervene and prevent things like this, and then you have a government under vladimir putin that kept going for its
own interests as the affects deepened and maybe the russians like all the refugees. >> i know they want to move on to another topic, but -- what about our arab allies? where are our arab allies? >> they are going for their own short-term interests. that's one of the worst aspects of this. they are playing a short term game, and saudi arabia wants to go after iran and iran wants to go after saudi arabia, and that's part of the problem, and they are all fighting a proxy war. guess who is doing the dying? syrians. >> and i sat at the u.n. all day yesterday, and they are gravely concerned about russia's role. >> it doesn't translate into anything that happens. >> willie? >> on the question of refugees,
the latest turn for the absurd in this campaign
came from donald trump jr. that under fire about allowing refugees into the united states. it reads, if i had a bowl of skittles and told you just three would kill you, would you take one? that's our syrian refugee problem. skittles quickly became the top trending topic on twitter and the post got the attention of skittles parent company, and it said skittles are candy and refugees are people, and as anything we could say could be misinterpreted as marketing. now we have a statement from
skittles about the united states presidential canadidacycandidac. >> i think that turned the conversation, at least on social media squarely against this use of an analogy to a bowl of candy. but there's nothing particularly constructive or elevated that he said about refugees, or factual. >> it was not factual. >> monday night it's going to matter a lot if he says
these kinds of things. >> that was donald trump, jr., right? >> but it was the campaign, and at the bottom, that was an official product -- that was not a retweet but a product of the campaign. >> final thoughts? >> when you are in skittles versus refugees, it's a sign
7,812 that were through the looking glass. as the syria conversation suggests, serious issues and important questions, and not a lot of simplistic answers. i think there's an increasing hunger as the weather turns and as we get closer to the election as the debates unfold and a serious set of responses to the problems of economic growth at home and our role abroad in what is an incredibly complicated world. trump is offeringing a cold war answer to a world that no longer lends itself to that kind of view and i think that will be the debate going forward. >> thank you. how the terror threat can determine the final sprint to election day.
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i heard i was criticized for calling it correctly. what i said was exactly correct. i should be a newscaster because i called it before the news, but what i said was exactly correct. everybody says while he was right, he called it too soon. give me a break. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's tuesday, september 20th. with us we have veteran columni columnist, and msnbc contritor, mike barnicle, and andrea, and chris. >> we were just talking during
the break, and mike you were asking the question, all these people up here for the u.n., what are they doing? >> they are block off traffic, and shutting down streets. >> why don't they go to damas s damascus? what are they here for? they have allowed the killing to continue. the entire international community has allowed the killing to continue. the west has allowed the killing to continue and our arab allies allowed the killing to continue, and the white house and the white house, why are they here? is it a country club? what are they doing, andrea? >> i made that argument for as many years as i covered the u.n., however today there is a meeting on refugees, and they are coming together today to talk, and i don't want to prejudge what may or may not come out of this, and i atpwrae with you entirely and for some of these delegations you go
around town and see what goes on and it's the best week of their year to come to new york city and mess it up for everybody else, however, what happened with this red crescent convoy is so outrageous, and i was on a conference call about state officials and white house officials about this, and well, john kerry is going to meet with hraf rauf. the foreign minister is not speaking for vladimir putin, and clearly this was either a russian air strike or russia enabling the regime. if they don't just give up -- all respect for john kerry, the only single person that worked his heart out around the clock to try and put this together, at least a cease-fire to get aid
in, and now we see air strikes blowing up humanitarian convoys. >> why are they having cocktail parties? why are they here? what are they doing? over 200,000 people have died. as you said last hour, the norms of what is acceptable in the international community has been shattered over the past five years in syria. why do we have a united nations if they can't do something now. >> i think you are absolutely right to focus the spotlight on them, and to call them out. this is a moment in which their order and their effort is failing. president obama today is going to give a speech at the u.n. in which he will talk about the decline of the liberal international order, which is basically the civilized order that we live in, that we believe we live in, and that syria
demonstrates is disintegrating and i think we should all ask president obama and everybody listening to the speech, what are you doing to put this back together. in new york, they are going to meetings and parties, but they are not solving the syria problem. >> the bombing of the aid convoy is horrific and we hope it's a wake-up call, but you can go back every day for the last five years that should have been a wake-up call that has not been to the world. >> that was the moment that got people focused -- >> it's like we run into so many of those stop signs, and so many of the moments that should have just pulled the world together and said we can't do it anymore, this has to stop. >> david, while the president speaks today and while the u.n. meets today and while the various sub committees gather today, we have in syria, according to people who you
speak with with much more knowledge about it than i do, a fractured nation that is likely to never be a nation again when and if this civil war recedes. >> mike, somehow on the ground, as my own judgment, this country is fractured so putting it back together for now is not a possibility. what you need is governance and stability in different areas, and that's what i open the u.s. and u.n. would work on, and stabilize it within the pieces that emerged and reduce the violence and then go after the worst of the worst, isis and the al qaeda affiliate, and the fact you are going to wave a wand and it goes back to normal, i don't think will happen for a decade. and the fbi is set to resume their investigation this
morning. ahmad khan rahami is still being treated for injuries after being shot yesterday by police. he was officially charged last night with five counts of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer along with two counts of unlawful possession of a weapon, and the two officers shot by rahami have been recovering. early yesterday morning law enforcement sent out an emergency alert to millions of cell phones throughout the area looking for this man captured on surveillance camera in the area of the new york city blast. the police found rahami after they got a call of a person sleeping of a doorway in a local bar and when officers approached him officials say he immediately pulled out a gun and began
firing. and our reporter spoke to the man that called in about the man people were looking for in two states. >> it was an expression, like somebody saw him, like, i will move to the other side, you know? he mainly moved to the other side, and that was 9:00. and then i come back, and he said, this guy looks so similar to the guy i just watched on the tv. >> let's go ahead, first of all, and play this trump clip. >> because these cops -- >> these cops from done such an extraordinary job. this is trump actually blaming the cops, saying they knew who did this stuff but they were too frightened to arrest terrorists. take a look. >> today we have caught this evil thug who planted the bombs. thank you, law enforcement. but the bad part, now we will
give him amazing hospitalization. he will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world. he will be given a fully modern and updated hospital room. and he'll probably even have room service knowing the way our country is. and on top of all of that, he will be represented by an outstanding lawyer. his case will go through the various court systems for years, and in the end people will forget and his punishment would not be what it once would have been. what a sad situation. we must have speedy but fair trials, and we must deliver a just and very harsh punishment to these people.
>> we have to hit them much harder over there and we have to find out -- you know, our police are amazing and they know who these people are and are afraid to do anything about it because they don't want to be accused of profiling and israel has done an unbelievable job and they profile and they see somebody suspicious, they will profile and take that person and check out do, we have a choice -- >> he is asked about cops and he says, they know who the terrorists are but are afraid to capture him, so donald trump in effect just blamed new york city police officers for these explosions and the injuries of dozens of americans. >> one police plaza is a considerable distance where donald works and stays shelter on fifth avenue but if he were to take a ride down to police
department and sit down with the new police commissioner, he would find out probably to his amazement the number of plots that have been disrupted, ended because of the daily and the hourly work of the new york city police department who are not reluctant or unafraid to speak to people, to stop people and question people and to stop plots. >> and the same with the fbi and the same thing with the federal law enforcement officers. there's so many plots that they stay one step ahead of, and we don't here about in the news. >> the former chief bratten on his last day on this program, on friday, pointed out that since 9/11 there have been two terror attacks in new york city, and one was the man with the machete, and then the successful, you know, explosion on saturday night, which injured 29 people and they are all out
of the hospital now and none are life-threatening injuries, and that's a remarkable thing and it's incredible. remember on 9/11, we in washington had no idea what was going to come next. the pentagon? shanksville? back 15 years, we thought it was going to be a daily occurrence. >> if you look at the polls taken a month after 9/11 we were certain we were going to get hit again and again with these type of terror attacks. it speaks to what the fbi, local law enforcement and the cia and nsa and all of the intel agencies speaks to the extraordinary success we have had over the last 15 years that an act like this happens as rarely as it does. >> it's an amazing record. we have had some good luck.
there's a couple points to make. one is law enforcement and intelligence depend absolutely on cooperation from muslim communities who see something and say something, and that's precisely what is put at risk by some of the comments of donald trump. listening to the clips you just played, it's as if he is replaying, you know, hits from the past, from, you know, "law & order" days, and they are being kept in beautiful hospital rooms and they will get an expensive lawyer. that could be 20 years old. you get the feeling he doesn't really know much about this battle and what goes on. as mike said, he has not been down to talk to john miller, and the new york police department is known as one of the best intelligence departments in the world, and trump doesn't seem to know that.
>> after one of the paris bombings last year and one of the people most instrumental in finding the bomber in brussels was a new york police officer assigned to paris, france. >> i did some reporting on whether or not trump had been briefed on saturday night because in real time he said -- he told people on his plane a bomb had just gone off, and i happened to be with some officials in d.c. that night who didn't know about it at that point, which is not terribly come forwarding, and the fact was they had not been briefed, and it was remarkable, and the correspondents asked who briefed donald trump. i tried to track it down last night. there was no intelligence briefing of either nominee. >> he watches the shows. >> it was basically somebody on his staff said, hey, a bomb just
went off. >> here's hillary clinton on how she reacted to yesterday's events. >> i have been clear, we are going to get the bad guys and go after them, but we are not going to go after a entire religion and give isis what they want in order for them to enhance their position. we know donald trump's comments have been used online for recruitment of terrorists. we have heard that from former cia direor, michael hayden, who made it a very clear point when he said donald trump is being used as a recruiting sergeant for the terrorists. we also know from the former head of our counterterrorism center, matt olson, that the kinds of rhetoric and language that mr. trump has used is giving aid and comfort to our adversaries. >> a major accusation against
new jersey governor, chris christie, in federal court yesterday as prosecutors say jurors will hear testimony that christie was aware of the traffic jam orchestrated by high-ranking aides. it's known as bridge gate. as the town was gridlocked for three mornings, including the first day of school and calls for help to the state going unanswered, a third aide, david willstein, will testify, he and one of the accused told christie what was happening. a former prosecutor will show that they bragged about the fact there were traffic problems in ft. lee and christie long denied any knowledge prior to media reports that undiscovered the
scandal and he has not been charged with a crime. >> willie, obviously it's just a prosecutor who -- the defense obviously is saying he knew, and the prosecutor says it in an opening statement, and not evidence yet, but certainly it looks like both sides in this trial are going to be pointing the fingers at chris christie. >> yeah, and the prosecutor said it will be the former confident to christie that will say he directly told christie about the lane closures and he knows that. i think most of us that have gotten to know him, it always defied credibility he could not have known anything, and we don't have any evidence, a direct link or e-mail that shows him knowing what was happening on the bridge those several weeks, but if you have his confidant saying he told him directly, that changes the situation a little bit.
>> you just said that chris christie's bad year keeps getting worse and worse. >> the hits keep coming. the thing i wrote yesterday, this would have been a massive story if christie had a lot of places to fall. the truth of the matter is, a year ago, this is a huge story. he's one of the big stars of the republican party. >> he is in charge of transition of donald trump, right? >> yeah, and somebody talked about being trump's attorney general if trump does win. when this came out christie gave a 100% blanket denial. if you could prove it wasn't true, the guy's political career is over, and it's two years on and his political career is probably over anyway from the endorsement of trump to the way he defended trump over the
weekend like the birthie think and i talked to donors and former aides, and people say we don't know this guy anymore. and like you said, it's an allegation and it's not proven. if it is proven the miniscule hope that christie had of reconstituting his political brand is gone. >> it's an allegation and an opening statement and it has not been proven and we will see what happens by the end of the trial. for chris christie, if he's going to be relevant politically, he will have to get through this and donald trump will have to win and he could quite possibly become the very powerful man in charge of transition deciding who gets what jobs. >> christie was one of donald trump's early major endorsers, and after his disappointing
sixth place in the primary, and trump publicly expressed doubts of christie's ignorance. >> how do you have breakfast with every day of your lives, and the closing of the largest bridge in the world, and people couldn't get across for six or seven hours, ambulances, fire trucks, and they are with them all the time, the people that did it, and they never said boss we are closing up the george washington bridge tonight. they never said that, right? he knew about it. he knew about it. totally knew about it. >> how much of a factor do you believe the trouble with the bridge gate was a factor in you not getting picked for vice president? >> i am sure it was a factor. >> how big? >> you would have to ask him,
but i am sure it was a factor. >> anything you fear with your aides -- >> not a thing, and i have been investigated for the last three years, including this network, and nobody has been able to prove that i knew anything or had a role in this and this trial will confirm that, but there will be critics that will never want to believe that because they want to believe something different. >> mike barnicle, if you ever want a snapshot of how pifickle politics is. then the bridge gate incident happened, and it was covered in primetime on this network every day for 18 years, and "the new york times" had it on the front page every day for 47 years, and i mean, he just -- he just got pounded day after day after day,
and he finds himself in the position he is in now. it's remarkable. >> in the snap. one thing, the bridge, and to willie's point, knowing chris christie a little from his appearances here and being with him it's beyond the point of credibility that nobody would have said, hey, governor, you know what we did here, we shut down the bridge. the other thing, i, too, spoke within the last couple of days with formerly a major backer of governor christie, and they said we don't know who he is now. we don't know what happened to him. >> that's trump. >> and as to the first allegation, i quote, paul newman in absence of malice, prove it. >> yeah. >> a lot of people talking and somebody has got to prove it. >> that's right. i think it's important to remember that. >> that's a great movie, by the
way, isn't it? newman is incredible. prove it. >> i think that's a good point. look, this is a trial, and this is the opening day, right? this is an allegation. but it is difficult given who -- chris christie had two options when the story broke. one was to say i am not a very good manager of my people because these two senior people were doing this and i had no clue, that's option one and the other was i was involved. and option two was a political death sentence, and option one was the one he took. when he took it the only thing he could hope for was it was never able to be proven that he knew about it concurrently, as it was happening. that's going to clearly be put to the test. here he is right, there were investigations in the state
assembly, and another one that showed they had no proof that he knew concurrently it was happening, and the thing i am most amazed by, joe, you are right, the transition director for trump, and the stakes at christie's heights are low, and even if he gets out of this, what else does he go to other than hopefully trump? >> ag. >> all right. thank you. >> david ignatius, thank you as well. >> thank you for being here. >> we want to mention, david, you will be sitting down with director of intelligence james clapper, and the event is called "securing tomorrow" and will be live streamed on the washington post website. andrea mitchell, stay with us if you can. still ahead on "morning joe," top military leaders say despite
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front line enemies exchanging fire in a city torn apart by a war that is not ending. this commander tells me the rebels broke the cease-fire, and rebels blame the regime. in the middle, families fleeing the fighting and the lack of food in rebel areas. the aid they were all promised in the u.s./russia cease-fire deal never game. this is the front line road the aid convoy should have taken to get into the bouarea of east aleppo, but that has not happened and many say it never will. they are left with no food or water, he says, nothing. the road to peace here now seems an empty one. >> that was nbc's chief global correspondent, bill neely reporting from inside syria. joining us now from capitol h l hill, republican congressman, ed
royce, of california. congressman, how are we all sitting by as this happens, and is that a fair assessment that the world is setting by? >> that's a fair assessment. i was up on the southern border and up incurr kurt staupb. there were bombing campaigns orchestrated by assad, chemical weapons and what the international community thought they had done, i think most recently, was to negotiate a cease-fire to bring humanitarian relief in, and in the first hours of that cease-fire we saw the syrian assad regime violated 30 times and then we saw their air force attack the humanitarian relief supplies that were coming in. they have given no agreement to
any of the food coming in, and then when we finally got in agreement, we turn around and see they attack them from the air. so they need to be called on this, and in a bipartisan effort, myself and my ranking democrat member have legislation up in the house that we are trying to get through in order to push additional pressure on that regime. but as you know, the administration is skittish about us getting involved in this, and i think the bipartisan legislation would be the first step in cutting off the ability of assad's war machine. >> there seems to be another atrocity every day for the last five and a half years, and the most recent as you eluded to, the bombing of an aid convoy by barrel bombs. what can all of these
organizations set up to respond to things like this, and do that they have not done in the last five years? what would the united states have done in a perfect world yesterday to prevent that from happening to an aid convoy? >> in a perfect world we would have taken advice from the ngo's on the ground and partners around the world that wanted us to establish a safe zone in the north and a safe zone in the south for these 14 million refugees that are either fleeing isis or this civil war. in failing to do that, because we can't get a sign off on that, and i guess the next step would be can we get the agreement from the united states to isolated russia to russia has to use its veto in the security council to
move against assad to prevent him from moving the barrel bombs and chemical weapons. >> this was, according to the state department, a double tap air strike, and there were initial air strikes, one went after the first responders, and it's a war crime and russia is the guarantor of this, and only russia and the regime have airplanes there, so how comfortable are you with the republican nominee, donald trump's embrace of vladimir putin? won't it be more difficult if he is elected to get any pushback against russia? >> i have seen every presidential candidate do this, reach out and claim they were going to do a reset with putin -- >> it's a little different. come on. >> let's think back.
let's think back, and think back to bush and think back to clinton with the russian -- >> oh, wow. >> and think back to the comments made by every one of the candidates, and i think -- >> hold on. it's a little different. can we be on the same planet here and that this is a little different? >> i think the reality here is that what we need to do with respect to vladimir putin is pass the legislation, the bipartisan bill that we brought up that would have third party sanctions in order to prevent the transfer, and the planes being used right now by assad are russian planes, and the parts come from russia, and the support comes from russia and iran. we need to be able to move forward with a bipartisan initiative and speak with one voice right now to cut off the capacity that russia and iran
have to prop up assad in what has now become an effort of ethnic cleansing and with 14 million people pushed out of their homes and up there speaking to these people and hearing them say i want to go back to my home, we have got -- we have got to get -- use this opportunity, i would suggest, up at the united nations to launch an all out offensive here in order to rally the international community and the united states should put forward an initiative in the security council to do this and force russia's hand on this. >> somebody might want to clue in the trump campaign, and it would be helpful. congressman, ed royce, thank you. >> andrea mitchell, thank you as well. >> you bet. and rand paul is taking on one of the allies in the middle east, and we will talk foreign policy with the former presidential candidate and get
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welcome back to "morning joe." there's growing outrage this morning following the fatal shooting of an unarmed blackman in tulsa, oklahoma. newly released video shows the moments that led up to the deadly shooting. gabe gutierrez has the details. >> reporter: the shooting friday evening seen from multiple
angles and tulsa police officers responding to an unrelated call when they see the stalled suv. he refuses to show hands. aerial video shows he has his hands up as he walks back to the vehicle, and one deploys the taser and another fires her weapon. >> we saw he did not have a weapon or make any movements. >> he's a father of four. >> his life matters. his life mattered. >> the officer that fired her weapon is on administrative paid leave. and there's a separate civil rights investigation. >> his hands are up? what am i missing here? his hands are up, right? >> yeah.
>> he goes to the car and puts his hands on the car, right? they tase him and then shoot him? >> yeah. >> wait a second. hands in the air walking to the car, slowly doing everything -- hands up against the car. keep it rolling. okay. by the way, why the hell don't those officers and every officer in america have body cameras? who's trying to hide something here? we have enough here, but it sure as hell would be good to be down there and see what is happening, willie. >> the tulsa police got funding for cameras -- >> look, both hands on the suv. >> this is a man whose car broke down in the middle of the road. >> right, there was no pursuit
or no original conflict. he might have called them. he might have been the one that called 911. >> he did everything -- everything you would expect him to do. >> oh, my god. >> there's audio we are not hearing either from the helicopter where an officer is quoted as saying, he looks like a bad dude on something from the helicopter. >> that's unbelievable. all right. we will be right back. 19 trillion and growing money for programs like education will shrink. in just 8 years, interest on the debt will be our third largest federal program. bad news for small businesses. the good news? there's still time for a solution. asthcandidates for a plan to secure our future.
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>> that was senator rand paul, willie. >> yeah, that was about a year ago and now the kentucky republican looking to stop the deal with the saudis. and he joins us at the table. and also joining us is brett steve stevens. why is it a good idea to block a billion in arms to one of our allies? >> it's our constitutional duty. the constitution gave the power to initiate war to congress and there's no discussion whether or not we should be at war with yemen, and we are fueling planes and our founding fathers were clear the executive branch was most prone to go to war and so madison said with studied care
that power was vested in the legislature and this is our paw raugtive and i am glad we are bringing this up, and we will have a vote and there will be a vote on it this week and i think it's a great opportunity to discuss whether or not we should be at war in yemen. >> draw the line for our centers between us, and you being unconstitutionally at war with yemen and blocking arms to saudi arabia >> it's our only way to participate inheth or not we should be involved in the war. some of the arms being given or sold on saudi arabia are replacing tanks we lost in the war, and the other thing people don't realize, under president obama's watch we sold $100 billion in weapons to saudi arabia, and everywhere you look in the middle east you see u.s. arms often fighting against other entities using u.s. arms. when tanks rolled in from
turkey, they were u.s. tanks and they fought against kurds that used american weapons, and north of aleppo you saw kurdish, pentagon-backed kurds fighting cia-backed moderates and it's a bizarre notion we have arms all over the middle east and it doesn't seem to be helping but instead increasing chaos. >> on the anniversary of 9/11 up in connecticut in my hometown we had a 9/11 remembrance for families of survivors of the attacks that day, and senator blumenthal and senator murphy and congressman heinz was up there, and many believed the saudis had a direct link in those attack. do you consider saudi arabia could be america's ally?
>> i would call them a frenemy. i would say sometimes they are our allies and sometimes our enemy. it was said they are sometimes au arsonists and sometimes firefighters. no, i don't think -- even though their motives may have been to be helpful in the end it was detrimental what the saudis have done there. what they are doing in yemen, i don't know, i don't see a clear-cut legitimate self defense in what they are doing in yemen and i think there will be millions, if not only millions of refugees and i don't see the saudis lifting a finger to take in refugees, and i don't have a great deal of respect for
where saudi arabia is, and they are funding radical islam in our country and throughout the world and they say they want to change their ways and let's see them do it and let's hold the arms until we see behavioral changes. >> five minutes have gone by and we have not heard the word iran uttered. isn't this between iran and all of its neighbors and isn't saudi arabia making the most dramatic changes -- >> yeah, we wouldn't want them as an enemy. they are fighting our war, and we have the iranian-backed country and they overthrew the government we supported, and then we have al qaeda overrunning much of the south of the country, and they are also
enemies of al qaeda, and we should be happy the saudis are fighting a war we might otherwise need to fight, and that makes a great deal of sense. second point, senator paul understands the free market. if saudi arabia are not going to bhutuy tanks from us, they willy them from other countries, and not for commercial reasons. remember what lyndon johnson said, it's better to have your adversaries inside the tent peeing out instead of outside the tent peeing in. the leading sponsor of terror in the middle east and throughout the world is iran and i think the senator would agree, and number one geopolitical foe, we
need all the allies we can get, and some are not democratic and some are like the president of egypt, and saudi arabia a secon. we should be encouraging it. not dutting them off. >> let's get senator paul back in here. senator, you have a lot, i think four or five points to respond to. go ahead. >> well, anybody who believes that the war in yemen is our war is welcome to volunteer and go fight for the sal fsts in yemen. they said the chaos and violence in yemen is such that it would be even an improvement to call it a civil war. we can't even figure out which side is the good side in half of these wars. you have the saudis, you have the huetys that the iranians are supporting. you know who is sitting around licking their chops? al qaeda in the peninsula and
isis. for the people who say we must always get involved, they need to explain the unintended consequences of being involved. i'm worried ubd al qaeda in the peninsula rising from the chaos in the yemen as we battle it out with iranian proxies there. same way in syria. we battled it out and pushed assad back because we had these people who believed they were going to spread freedom and democracy around the world. they include the neocons, but they also include hillary clinton. it's a naive notion and learns nothing from the iraq war. so as we push assad back, isis grew in that vacuum. so no, the people who are advocating for this need to look at the history of the middle east, and the history of the middle east over the last several decades is whenever we have topples secular dictators, we got cay ace and the rise of radical islam. they need to understand carefully that by siding with the saudis in this, they may well be enhancing the ability of
al qaeda to take over the peninsula. >> quick response. >> my point is the saudis are fighting our war for us in yemen. instead of having american troops deploying there as we previously did, special forces, it's the saudis who have fought al qaeda and who have fought the hutis. they haven't fought them the way we might like. there have been human rights abuses, no question about that. but precisely because we don't want to send large numberoffs u.s. troops into a region which is an exporter of terrorism, it's good to have allies who are willing to fight those battles. >> thank you very much. good to have you both with us. >> thank you guys so much. fascinating debate. >> it is. >> by the way, though, if you really want to figure it out, a lot of moving parts, look at our three dimensional moving, really 4-d map. can you show this map again? that explains it all. like you can be a fourth grader, and if you see that right there. >> that's it. >> you're like, oh, i understand. >> that'sseriously.
>> i found it helpful. >> i'm not. "morning joe" graphics. >> we usually just put a globe on the set for people to understand the world. >> this is an upgrade. >> all right, still ahead, friends say in recent years, the man accused of planting bombs across new york and new jersey became a, quote, completely different person. >> did you know your son was doing this? >> no. >> you had no idea? >> no idea. >> when you hear now that he's been accused of this, do you believe it? do you believe it? sir? >> i'm motsure what's going on. >> not sure. >> i'm not sure what's happening, exactly. but i think it's very hard right new to talk, okay. >> you just heard from rahami's father. we'll get the latest on the investigation coming up at the top of the hour. sic stops ] ♪ just can't wait to get on the road again ♪ [ front assist sounds ] [ music stops ] [ girl laughs ]
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welcome. welcome. welcome. thank you so much. it is great to have you here. let's talk about -- let's talk about everything. thank you so much for being here. >> you're so welcome. i am not contagious. just for your information. >> you're feeling much better. >> it's tuesday, september 20th. welcome to "morning joe." >> what's that? >> healthy. looking fine, right? >> with us on set, willie is here. >> hey, willie. welcome back. >> we have missed you. veteran columnist -- >> where have you been? >> upstairs, across the street, all over the place. i come in the morning. >> they run you ragged. mike barnicle is here, the best. former communications director
of president george w. bush, nicolle wallace. in nashville, tennessee, pulitzer prize winning historian jon meacham and washington columnist and editor for ep ep"washington post," david ignatius. the latest survey monkey online poll shows hillary clinton improving her lead on donald trump nationwide. she now leads -- >> so -- >> 50 to 45. >> up five points, 50 to 45. this is just how topsy turvy this has been. mike, again, you don't know how things are going. i said yesterday morning, i felt like, you know, there was going to be a counter by hillary. i didn't expect it quite this fast, but it's just one poll. she's up by five, though. we have a couple other polls that shows he s she's doing pre darn well. this is a back and forth battle. >> and everything will reset next tuesday. after monday night's debate. everything will reset. >> the debate will be huge. >> i don't know when the dates
of the polling ended, but the impacts of the events this weekend in new york city. i don't know how that impacts people's feelings. i just don't know. >> definitely impacts monday night. lester holt who is moderating the debate, we talked front and center about terrorism. we'll have to see whose advantage it works to, whether it's hillary clinton with her experience as secretary of state which donald trump says is a negative, or donald trump's strong in some eyes rhetoric about the issue. >> clinton is within striking distance in georgia, as well. down three points in a new monmouth poll, inside the margin of error. >> essentially a tie. >> striking distance in a state that a democrat from the south has not won in 56 years. though donald trump has suggested he could win his home state of new york city, a new poll shows that's unlikely. he trailed 51 to 30 as of this morning. >> nicolle, a lot of backing forth, weeping and gnashing of tv. people wearing sack cloths
saying donald trump is going to be president of the united states. you heard two weeks ago everybody saying it was over. hillary has 384 billion electoral votes. i just love those maps they do in september. those maps in september are worthless, but it does look great. now, like there is a slight pushback by supporters of hillary. >> right. i mean, she had sort of the roughest stretches of the general election cycle in the post-labor day period. >> right. >> and she put together and executed a near flawless convention. and that bump coupled with his disastrous summer sustained her until after the labor day holiday. i do think their response -- i agree with you. i think the response to the terror attack simply fortifies each side's supporters. if you're a trump supporter, you're happy he called it a bomb before anybody else did. that's sort of vintage trump.
if you're a clinton supporter, you were pleased and reassured to see her ratchet up her language yesterday morning on the tarmac. the next sort of window or possibility for structural shift would be after the debate. >> actually, as you mentioned, this morning, we should update everyone. the fbi is set to resume their investigation into the suspect caught yerin this weekend's explosions in new york city and new jersey. ahmad khan rahami is still being treated for injuries after being shot yesterday by police. he was officially charged last night with five counts of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer along with two counts of unlawful possession of a weapon. the two officers shot by rahami, peter hammer and angel padilla, are recovering from their injuries in the shootout. officer padilla has been released after being hit in the bullet proof vest area of the abdomen. officer hammer is kept for observation after a bullet grazed his head. so the politicsof s of
counterterrorism dominated the race for white house as they contrasted their approaches to combatting domestic threats. >> we're going to hit them much harder over there and we're going to have to find outdying you know, our police are amazing. our local police, they know who a lot of these people are. they're afraid to do anything about it because they don't want to be accused of profiling, but israel has done an unbelievable job and they'll profile. they see somebody who is suspicious, they will profile. they will take that person and check out, do we have a choice? look what's going on. we're trying to be so politically correct in our country. this is only going to get worse. we're going to have to do something extremely tough over there. okay. >> like what? >> over there, like knock the hell out of them. we have to get everybody together and we have to lead for a change, because we're not knocking them. we're hitting them every once in a while. we're hitting them in certain places.
we're being very gentle about it. we have to be very tough. >> i have been very clear, we're going after the bad guys and we're going to get them. but we're not going to go after an entire religion and give isis exactly what it's wanting in order for them to enhance their positions. we know that donald trump's comments have been used online for recruitment of terrorists. we've heard that from former cia director michael hayden. who made it a very clear point when he said donald trump is being used as a recruiting sergeant for the terrorists. we also know from the former head of our counterterrorism center, matt olson, that the kinds of rhetoric and language that mr. trump has used is giving aid and comfort to our adversaries. >> so mike barnicle, two very distinct views of
counterterrorism there. donald trump being asked, i think it was on fox and friends, asked so you say we have to hit them harder over there. how? what's your policy? knock the hell out of them. i'm not exactly sure they teach that up at west point as a countermeasure. but also, something that really stood out to me, he said our law enforcement officers knew who these people were but they were scared to get them. that seems to be quite an insult to the nypd. >> fbi or whoever. >> i think law enforcement officers across the region. >> i think it's important to stop right here and take note of the ill-informed, uninformed comments of donald trump that he made that we just heard. if you consider the time factor here, within 24 hours, actually less than 24 hours, there's a unit of the new york police department under john miller, deputy commissioner. >> he's great. >> has to do with intelligence. they knew -- they had a facial
i.d., everything. and within 24 hours, a combination of the new york police department, the fbi, and the new jersey police department's involved, they had tracked down and apprehended the suspect in this bombing. no cop is afraid to do this. >> willie, an extraordinary job by the nypd. extraordinary, within 24 hours. and yet you have a presidential candidate out there saying, oh, these guys knew who they were. this doesn't have to happen. they're being politically correct. if they know whew they are, they would have stopped the bombing. >> right. we've come to expect utter lack of policy prescriptions when he says knock the hell out of them, we understand that's what he's been saying. he's been promising paul ace all along, but this is deeper and new for him to accuse the police department and law enforcement and fbi and these people who cracked this case in about tlat38 hours total of ignoring the threats to the country. >> it is new.
>> not only that, but it gets to the daily, the hourly work that the new york police department intelligence unit, that the fbi, that all of them do on a daily basis, that the plots and people they have apprehended and stopped, unknown to us, continues every day all day. david ignatius, you know a bit about this as well as we do here. i mean, can you speak to this issue? >> well, mike, i think you put it contactually right. the big takeaway of this story to me is the efficiency with which police, law enforcement in new york and new jersey were able to close, and also, i have to say the action of responsible citizens, secretary clinton talked about the need not to cower, to be reziliants. we saw citizens identifying people, taking appropriate action when they saw threatening objects. but i think trump goes for the sound bite, and in counterterrorism, everybody that i talk to says that the key to
effective work against these lone wolfs are muslim communities in the united states. that's the only chance we have to see people before they act. they're not in touch with al qaeda central or with isis in raqqah for the most part. they're lone wolves, so it's the communities on which we depend, and it is true thatarve one of these comments about profiling makes american muslims think, gosh, we're a different set of americans. maybe people think we don't have a stake in that, and that's going to hurt. >> jon meacham, jump in. >> i think david is exactly right. one thing we can say about the 2016 election is there's not a lot of ambiguity. we know exactly what the two choices are. it's the gut versus the brain. and i was thinking as i was watching the dueling statements yesterday, thinking about that moment in the first debate with romney four years ago. remember, where romney sort of
came out and was like a mission impossible guy. he ripped his mask off and was suddenly different than he had been. that's not going to happen here. trump is trump. hillary is hillary. and i think that the country will have to make, you know, will have the ability to make a very clear choice here. >> i wonder what you make of this. at his rally in florida yesterday, donald trump also offered his critical take on the legal process that will follow the capture of bombing suspect ahmad khan rahami. >> today, we have caught this evil thug who planted the bombs. thank you, law enforcement. but the bad part, now we will give him amazing hospitalization. he will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world. he will be given a fully modern
and updated hospital room. and he will probably even have room service, knowing the way our country is. and on top of all of that, he will be represented by an outstanding lawyer. his case will go through the various court systems for years. and in the end, people will forget and his punishment will not be what it once would have been. what a sad situation. we must have speedy but fair trials, and we must deliver a just and very harsh punishment to these people. >> mike? >> what do you say to something like that? >> i don't know. >> what do you say? you know, he's hospitalized. he's being treated. he will soon be in a prison infirmary or jail infirmary. that's just such nonsense.
it's just -- donald trump basically is saying, you know, what he should have done is taken him out and beheaded him. >> right. >> that's basically what he's saying. >> maybe he was just riffing. >> as you watch that, keep in mind, that's a scripted speech. that's a campaign message. >> so his campaign approved that? and that's what he was saying, for real? it wasn't just a riff, like a stupid really irresponsible riff? because sometimes he does that, and i wonder if he actually means what he says because i think sometimes he says things that are really damaging, and i have even expressed myself that i worry that these riffs are damaging. but when the campaign writes that, that's what you're voting for? republicans? that's what you're voting for? >> that's who we are. >> we did give timothy mcveigh a trial. >> that's what you're voting for? that's what you got? >> listen, i think hillary clinton -- >> by the way, they're not pampered. i mean, donald trump should try
going to where this guy is going to go. and i don't think -- >> does he want it to be russia? >> i don't know that donald trump would want the same public whoever the lawyer is going to be, it's going to be a public defender, most likely. i don't think donald trump would want the state picking on a low hourly rate his attorney. >> i would like to ask donald j. trump one question. after they shot and wounded this guy over in new jersey, they cuffed him. do you think he complained, ow, that hurts. i bet he did. do you think the cops cared? he's not pampered. he's not babied. >> listen, i think that hillary clinton's message yesterday is, represents sort of her recalibration to this asymmetry. he does say things that are impossible to respond to. we sort of sit here flummoxed but we're watching from the sidelines. she's running against sort of this wild scoundrel who is proudly keeping his taxes to
himself, who boasts about buying political influence from the politicians of both sides of the aisle. who says irresponsible things in the moment, yet he's pretty close to her in the battleground states and as she's pulled ahead now in national polling, there is something that he says that is to some people the answer, i guess, to the way that debates have gone. but she's responding in kind. i think sort of recalibrating her message to respond to him will help her and strengthen her. >> okay, shortly after new york governor and former prosecutor like we needed a voice of reason here, but we'll take one, andrew cuomo responded. >> welcome to america. right? we have a system of jurisprudence. you're innocent until proven guilty. you have a right to counsel. and you have a right to hospitalization if you are ill. that is our system. and it's what makes this country special and what makes this
country great. sometimes the government is wrong. and that's why we have a judicial process and trials and hearings, et cetera. so i don't know what the alternative would be. unless you said we should have a government that on their own belief is judge and jury and executioner all in one. >> could be like putin. you could just, you know, shoot people that you don't like. journalists. >> this is not funny. that happens. >> journalists, you could have people shoot suspects. you could have business people you don't like. you just kill them all. that's, i mean, that's one vision of how you do it. i think most americans are comfortable with how we have been doing it for over 240 years. >> still ahead on "morning joe," the explosives in new york and new jersey weren't the only potential acts of terror over the weekend. we're going to talk to keith
ellison about a stabbing spree in his home state that isis is claiming credit for. >> first, they say youth is wasted on the young. hillary clinton is hosting elections are not. we'll talk ability her mission to win back millennials in a moment. >> and here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> summer is winding down. it's going to be a hot end to summer, too. remember tropical storm julia last week on the south carolina coast? it's still lingering. it's an area of low pressure, but a lot of heavy rain, virginia and norfolk, and a flood watch in effect for that area. mostly north carolina will be effected with the rainfall today. i mentioned the heat, from texas northward, the mid 90s. going to feel like 100 with the heat index. even denver is 90 today. tomorrow is the last full day of summer and it's going to feel like it. st. louis at 91. if there's travel issues at the airports. maybe the airports in florida in the late afternoons and tomorrow evening in areas like minneapolis. otherwise, very warm forecast across the country. leaving you with a shot of new york city. a lot of clouds streaming up
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hillary clinton made new moves yesterday in hopes of winning back young voters. the latest national quinnipiac poll shows clinton lost 17 points with voters between the ages of 18 and 34. most of that going to libertarian candidate gary johnson. >> wow. >> that's why millennials were top of mind for the democratic nominee. >> so she was down 17 points over the last month with millennials? >> yeah. >> she was at 48% last month with millennials. at 31% this month.
nus 17. gary johnson picks up 13, from 16 to 29. that's pretty great. >> and jill stein got the other 4%. >> she made an appearance on the tonight show with jimmy fallon and had this to say during a rally at temple university in philadelphia. >> if i'm in the white house, young people will always have a seat at any table where any decision is being made. i worked with bernie sanders on a plan. we came up with a plan that makes public college tuition-free for working families and debt free for everyone. i do spend a lot of time on the details of policy. like the precise interest rate on your student loans right down to the decimal. but that's because it's not a detail for you. it's a big deal. of course, politics can be discouraging. this election in particular can be downright depressing
sometimes. this is going to be close. we need everyone off the sidelines. not voting is not an option. that just plays into trump's hands. it really does. >> so, i mean, you know, it's so tough. when you want the kids to come to you. i have seen tv networks before that say, i know how we're going to get millennials. we're going to have young bloggers host shows. that doesn't work. it just doesn't work. like, you know, one of my favorite over the last five, ten years. one of my favorite examples of how that is such stupid network tv thinking is bob schaefer. 72 years old. wins the demo, right? because -- it's -- >> chris matthews is huge among college campuses. >> they love him.
>> bernie sanders is the best example. a 74-year-old. >> rock star. >> rock star. yes, so i just don't know. so how do you -- if you're hillary clinton, how do you reach out to millennials? i don't know saying we're going to have young people at the table is going to do it. >> they don't really going to tables anymore. they mostly skype. >> you find them online. >> i think saturday night, i know you talked about it yesterday, but president obama at the congressional black caucus, i think his message was spot on. i think this might be an area where she needs to rely on some of her supersurrogates. joe biden also speaks very effectively to young people and young working families. president obama has always had been able to generate a lot of enthusiasm. and actually create the vote. he's gone out and found voters. >> bernie is the guy. has bernie worked hard enough. >> >> he's working all weekend. >> i don't know that his supporters buy his sale. obama's message was if you care
about me and michelle, don't let us walk into the sunset. protect my legacy. i think the voters that are available to her are going to be more responsive to that message that bernie trying to convert what was to young voters a real revolution. >> what a surprise, gary johnson, after fumbling a basic question about one of the most depressing foreign policy debacles of our time, actually picks up 14 points with millennials. >> but he's cool. he's different. he climbs mountains. he seems authentic. >> cut through it. he smokes a lot of pot. >> he also smokes a lot of pot, it's said. >> it is said. >> i do think hillary clinton is not entirely convincing pitching for young voters, but she's doing exactly what she needs to do. she's got to speak to this group. young voters do care about student loans. i think the biggest mig take she could make would be to sound
phony. that's the impression they have of her, trying to be pandering to kids. and you know, saying a lyric from a rock song or something. i think she's trying to do what he needs to just to go back to our earliest discussion, the most interesting number i saw in the last 24 hours is a fox news poll that says 61% of those p l polled believe that hillary clinton is qualified to be president. and only 45% believe donald trump is. and that's the number that comes into play when we have events like the terrorism incident in new york. and i think that's what she's got to lean on, is that basic bedrock feeling. she's done it, this other guy hasn't. >> coming up on "morning joe," millennials hallie jackson and kasie hunt join us live. >> are they millennials? >> sure. we're going to talk with them about some republican billionaires getting off the bench for donald trump after one of them spend millions against him. >> willie, you're a millennial, right? >> i wish. >> i am.
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>> can you play that again for us? i want to see this again. run it back. and get the drunk rudy, too. because that one was fantastic. >> i see a mosquito. right now. i don't like mosquitoes too much. get outta here, you mosquito. >> willie, that's all we needed. >> that's a good bit from kimmel. >> really good. >> it's in the spirit of lip sync rr. >> i'm sorry. i was saying i'm on now. tell me now so i can report it. >> that's hallie jackson. >> just saying. i'm on "morning joe." talk to me. >> always making deals. deals, always making deals. >> hallie is covering the trump campaign. >> we have hallie on the trump campaign. kasie hunt covering the clinton
campaign. good to see you. >> hello. >> a weird day, both of you s t seated on the set in new york with us. you're usually beating the bushes on the trail. let's talk about something we were talking about in the break, kasie, which is the appeal by hillary clinton to millennials. >> i was going to say, are you going to accuse of us being millennials. >> i think you are. >> i will wear that banner proudly. >> what is -- what are millennials. >> '82 and after. '82 to like 2000. >> i'm '84. >> i was saying. hillary clinton's appeal to millennials. the poll numbers are pretty staggering, the way they feel about her. not good. especially when it comes to does she say what she believes. what does she need to do to dig into that vote a bit? >> there's a perception she spends a lot of time in the public eye saying carefully poll tested things, and there are a lot of millennials as well who are in a system that is really difficult to navigate. they have a lot of student loans.
a lot of them are living at home. they feel like they're never going to have enough money to buy a house. and bernie sanders really tapped into that. i remember the crowds at these bernie sanders rallies i used to go to, the average age was usually -- i felt a lot of times like they were younger than i was. thousands of them. and that's not the case. it's the opposite at hillary events. the age is much, much higher. >> we're talking about this. millennials have a way of like understanding -- >> why do you have to do that? >> because it's such a weird word. millennials don't like being called millennials. you have to air quote it out. you do. >> is that what millennials do. >> lobster claws all millennials. i think there's a sense inauthenticity is a real issue. that there's a resistance to that, and that's something that appealed to them for bernie sanders and maybe they're finding a little less appealing for hillary clinton. >> it's also, there's an enthusiasm gap. okay. the enthusiasm for president obama when he ran was just absolutely off the charts. >> off the charts. >> so to a certain extent, it's
unrealistic to say, uh-oh, millennials don't support -- >> what about for bernie, the pneumfor bernie. off the charts? >> that's true. just take a walk in brooklyn, you know, a lot of the folks over there and they're covering in bernie paraphernalia. you're not going to see that with hillary clinton. >> one of the things we're were talking about in the break, despite the level of sophistication of the clinton campaign, why is it she doesn't speak to issues that interest young people? not millennials. i'm going to call them young people. >> thank you. >> can i ever buy a house 1234 can i ever get rid of my student loans? is the polar ice cap really going to end up i have beachfront property now in worcester, massachusetts? stuff like that. she doesn't speak to that. i don't know what the deal is. >> it was a struggle on the policy side if you remember when they were trying to hash this out before the convention. bernie sanders wanted more from her on free college tuition, and hillary clinton's approach is i'm never going to pass free college tuition through congress. she knows that. even the plan she finally came
around to, which is free community college for people who make less than $125,000 a year, is still a tough sell. but she had to kind of being pulled there by bernie sanders. i don't know if it was a blind spot they didn't realize kind of the potency of this issue with this group, but you're right that it wasn't something they focused on. >> and the other part is millennials, pew research came out with a study, they're overtaking baby boomers as the biggest generation. so having a message as a voting block, the power and importance -- >> so i should stop making fun of them? >> you probably should, joe. >> i should stop calling jill stein -- >> isn't joe stein too old to be a millennial. >> ooh. >> shade, kasie. >> let's sprinkle in some news here. it appears many of the highest profile republican donors getting off the bench to support donald trump. according to the "wall street journal," sheldon adelson reportedly will spend $45 million to back republicans down the stretch, including about $5 million to groups supporting
donald trump. the news first was reported by cnn, but perhaps more shocking is that joe rickets, the founder of td ameritrade reportedly will give $1 million to of money to a super pac backing trump. they put $6 million in a super pac to stop trump at one point and produced tough ads against him like this one. >> bimbo. >> dog. >> fat pig. >> real quotes from donald trump about women. >> a person who is very flat chested is very hard to be a ten. >> i would look her right in that fat ugly face of hers. >> look at that face. would anyone vote for that? >> that's tough. >> trump responded by saying, quote, they better watch out. in an interview with the "washington post"," trump clarified that comment saying, well, i'll start spending on them, taking ads telling them what a rotten job they're doing with the chigo cubs. >> stop right there.
>> that's baseball. >> he goes on. that was back in march, they had this back and forth when the ad came out, and donald trump replied in the "washington post." >> and now the rickets are supporting him. what do we make of this, that some of the big republican amoney is coming around to trump? >> i think you probably have other people who are close to the ricketts saying, listen, if you can just give him a little bit of money. >> right. >> just help him out a little bit. that helps us because what the rnc has believed all along is if donald trump loses by one point, they're fine. because they'll keep the senate. if donald trump loses by ten points, mitch mcconnell is not fine, kelly ayotte is not fine. >> even paul ryan has some problems. >> paul ryan has problems. you know, in the house. and the ricketts are obviously close to paul ryan, and others like that. so i suspect this is more of do us a favor. let's keep the house and senate close. and by helping trump, you're helping us.
there's an article somewhere saying that trump's success actually was spelling doom for democrats taking over the senate. i read that somewhere this morning at 3:00 in the morning. >> i think what you said, a little bit of money. this is not massive. it's a lot of money to regular people, but in the scheme of the political world, you look at what sheldon adelson is giving, $20 million to the house, $20 million to the senate, and $5 million to trump. >> compare what he gave to gingrich in the primaries, that's nothing for sheldon adelson. like they want -- >> like a token. >> almost like a kind of gesture of good will. >> exactly. wouldn't we love to have $5 million, i'll give you this as a yesture of good will. >> we're available, mr mr. addleson, for good will. >> hallie jackson, thank you very much. kasie, see you in a minute. congressman keith ellison and adam schiff join us next, talking about finding a needle in a haystack. is there anything american intelligence can do to stop isolated young men like the suspects in minnesota and new york attacks, if they were in
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another -- >> a little concerned here. >> what's wrong? >> "washington post," driverless car development gets a big push. >> it's coming. >> are you going to sit in the back of one of those things and let it drive you around manhattan? >> i'm going to wait a couple years, let them work out the kinks. >> you're going to let other people die. >> i didn't say that. >> you're going to let other people go through -- >> minor fender benders. >> stop on a train track while the person is trying to get out and the train is coming at them. >> uber is going there. >> uber and lyft. i did a big interview with the ceo of lyft. he says in ten years, there will not be personal cars in cities like ours because you're wasting money on parking, on gas, insurance and paempts. they're going to ride around in ubers and lyfts. it will be more efficient. >> i'm going to use what mike
did when he first started getting around. horse-drawn carriage. >> effective. >> worked well. >> yeah. >> i don't think de blasio likes them. >> let's get to the news here. another terror investigation under way following a stabbing attack at a minnesota mall over the weekend. ten people injured now have been released from the hospital. now the focus turns to the attacker. identified by family and friends as 22-year-old dahir adan. a somali american immigrant, college student and part-time security officer. according to police, he reportedly made at least one reference to allah and asked a victim if he or she was a muslim before attacking. whielg an isis-related media outlet claims responsibility, there's no evidence that suggests they had a direct hand in the attack. an off-duty police officer shot and killed adan. president obama phoned that officer yesterday. joining us now, co-chair of the congressional progressive
caucus, keith ellison of minnesota. thank you so much for being with us today. let's start with the news there. what else can you tell us? you had the police chief there saying that there was no evidence that adan had been radicalized directly or he had been directed from overseas from isis despite the fact this isis media outlet did claim responsibility. what more can you tell us this morning about any possible connection to terrorism here? >> well, obviously, the people who he attacked were terrorized. the question is, are they connected to a foreign terrorist organization. that's something that i think people don't really know yet. and i think it's important to just follow the evidence where it leads. but you asked about what else can i tell you. i can tell you that chief blair anderson is continuing to responsibly protect the people of st. cloud. he is urging close communications between law enforcement and all of the community so that we can get the best intelligence and information from the citizenry.
he's -- people in the muslim, christian, jewish, in the interfaith community are coming together, making sure that people don't turn on each other, and understand that we have to build a wall against these horrible atrocious people who would commit these horrible acts. and the community is trying to heal. the governor has been attentive, so have elected officials. but mostly, the citizens have come together and said, you know, we condemn this. we honor our brave first responders like officer falconer, but we're not going to let these terrorists pull us apart. >> congressman, we have reports that mr. rahami's wife left the country a couple days prior to this weekend's bombings here in new york city. do you know anything about that? >> i don't. i don't know the answer about the wife. and i have heard a couple conflicting accounts, so i'm not sure at this point. the case looks a lot like the
tsarnaev case, the boston marathon bombing, though this is someone who came to the country as a child, the instructions for many of the bomb components can be found in "inspire" magazine just like the boston marathon bombing. the placement of one of the bombs along the route of a race. travel, in this case to afghanistan, pakistan, or both, very similar in the sense that we're trying to find out whether there are foreign connections here. was he radicalized during that travel? many of the identical questions we had about tsarnaev. so still a lot of unanswered questions, probably the most pressing is whether he acted alone. that is something that law enforcement is pursuing as vigorously as possible. >> mike barnicle, so anxious to talk to you. ranking member of the house intelligence committee adam schiff. nicole has a question. >> are you concerned or does it complicate your efforts on the fact-finding front the tone on the campaign trail on both sides was ratcheted up immediately before all the facts were even
known to the police departments in new york and new jersey? >> it does. i mean, i think it's very worrying when you hear in particular a number of the statements coming out of donald trump. we heard obviously some of the statements about the disdain for providing medical treatment for this attacker. but what was even of greater concern to me, frankly, this week is the fact that when the united states accidentally bombed the syrian troops, the russians jumped in to say that we did it deliberately, that in fact we're behind isis, and it was really a perfect echo of what donald trump was saying when he was saying that the president founded isis, and it just played into that russian narrative, the narrative the syrians are saying, so these statements the candidates make, and in particular, donald trump has been making, can be deeply damaging to our anti-terrorism effort as well as the effort in syria. >> congressman ellison, it's
kasie hunt. the attack in minnesota in your home state, the stabbing attack, coming out of the somali community in that state, it's a significant and a large one. i'm wondering, what have you learned in your home state as you try to grapple with this, within that community that you think should be applied to potentially lone wolf attacks across the rest of the country. >> well, you know, we've got to stay close to our basic values as americans. that means law enforcement should stay in close communication with the community. it's important not to demonize the community because the community really is full of great people who contribute to this community in multiple ways. we just had a somali-american woman get elected to our state legislature. by people who were mostly not somali. so the bottom line is, it is making sure the channels of communication are open. and the somali community wants to share what they know so that
they can help keep our community safe. and i think, you know, chief blair anderson made it very clear that he thinks that wide open communication, making sure people know that they can access their public servants like him, is the real key to making sure we know what's going on and we get some sort of early alert if there is any early alert to be have. sometimes these things come out of the blue. >> as you said at the outset, we're just glad all the victims in the mall have now been released from the hospital. congressman keith ellison of minnesota, congressman adam schiff of california, thank you for being with us. we're back in a moment with much more "morning joe." ovidedor ther every financial need. and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, eitree had given its last. but with their raymond james financial advisor,
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thank you for tuning in. it's time to talk about what we learned today. drunk willie. >> yes, sir. >> what was rudy doing? >> i learned we have reached the portion of this bizarre presidential campaign where skittles is now putting out statements about the syrian refugee crisis. >> nicolle. >> that are more elevated than the republican nominee. >> that's what you learned? >> yes. >> i learned president obama is going to hit the campaign trail one or two days per week from here on out. >> really? >> seeing a lot more of him. >> all right, mike barnicle. >> i would prefer to listen to drunk donald trump than real donald trump. >> i learned despite the fact we have thousands and thousands of diplomats from all over the world coming in, going to cocktail parties, drinking at bars at night, doing whatever else they're doing, having lavish dinners, having all of their meetings, nobody is doing
a damn thing about syria, and they haven't done a damn thing about syria at the united nations while hundreds of thousands of people have died. and the norms of what is accepted in the international community have just been thrown out the window, as david ignatius said. they have to do something. stephanie ruhle is here now and she picks up the coverage. >> thanks a lot, joe. good morning, i'm stephanie ruhle. this morning, we have a lot to cover. did he act alone? the investigation into the alleged new york bomber, his trips to afghanistan and pakistan, his radicalization. his father speaking exclusively to nbc news. >> did you know your son was doing this? >> no. >> you had no idea? >> no. >> and new details on the shootout that brought him in. >> now, calls for the suspect to be treated as enemy combatant. we'll have all the breaking