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they don't have to be defined in opposition to others but rather by a belief in liberty, equality and justice. >> coming up here we'll speak with president obama's point man in the fight against isis here on "andrea mitchell reports." good day. i'm andrea mitchell in new york with the latest into the terror blasts in new york and new jersey. this hour suspect ahmad rahami remains in a hospital with police. last night he was charged with five counts of attempted murder. no federal charges have been filed yet. the bail set at 5.2 million. the court hearing scheduled for later this month. there is no indication yet of any isis direction to the
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attack. no terrorist organization claiming responsibility. let's bring in the latest with ayman mohyeldin outside the suspect's home in elizabeth new jersey. morgan radford in newark where the police involved are being treated. nbc correspondent pete williams in washington and nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel here with me now. you have spoken last night and today, just now with his father. >> reporter: i will tell you about the interaction i had. let me tell you what happened. we have the congressman from the district who represents elizabeth in other parts of new jersey who was briefing reporters about an interesting development pertaining to the visa application of the wife of his son trying to get entrance into the united states. he was saying rahami came to his office in elizabeth, had sent an
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e-mail to the congressman asking for help with the u.s. embassy in pakistan to try to facilitate the issuing or if you will the verification of a visa to come into the united states. this is around 2014. he sent the e-mail to the embassy. they said this case has been closed. he didn't provide information as to why it was closed. this happened just in the last few minutes. in terms of mohamed, the father of ahmad rahami, i got to speak to him and asked him, did you know your son was going to commit this act of terer ro. here's what he said. >> did you know your son would do this? could you tell me quickly what did you tell the fbi? >> did you speak to the fbi two years ago? >> you heard me there asking about what he told the fbi based
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on his own statement that he had spoken to the fbi. he alluded to it. it might have been two years ago he spoke to the fbi which would have been around the same time his son was in pakistan also at the same time we have now learned from the congressman that his son was trying to get a visa issued to bring his wife back to the united states. a lot of questions. the father saying he spoke to the fbi previously and he didn't know his son would commit that act of terror. >> in the studio, richard engel, what do we know at this stage about any connections to foreign terror organizations? >> right now people are trying to pore over his travel records. there is an open border or a not very well sealed border, i should say, between afghanistan and pakistan. we know he went to pakistan on numerous trips. once he stayed for quite a bit of time. >> and went to cueta. >> it is presumed he went to
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afghanistan more than once. did he pass the land border, stay in pakistan? who did he meet with one or both of the countries? that's a focus now. i would love to hear if pete has new developments on this. about two years ago there was an incident. there was a violent incident within the family. ahmad got into a fight with his brother, may have stabbed him. the police were called in. as you would imagine would be the case when there is a big domestic fight like this, apparently during the conversation according to the "new york times" the father said something about his son being a terrorist. then recanted it. said, no, he's not a terrorist. i think people are focused now on did this father try and turn his son in? was it just an angry expression that was used?
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should that have been enough to put him on some sort of terrorist watch list? a lot of people are going through. his travel, who he met while abroad, the interactions with law enforcement in this country relating to the issue of domestic abuse. his application. deciding to bring his wife or partner over from abroad. a lot of scrutiny. there is a lot of focus on those things. >> morgan radford is outside the hospital in newark where rahami is still. one of the police officers is injured. the other is released. any update there? >> reporter: officer peter hammer was just released moments ago. a large motorcade led by two motorcycles as well as trailed by marked and unmarked police cars to escort him out. he was grazed in the head by a
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bullet when rahami fled on foot. the chief of police was released last night. in fact, he asked the chief of police if he could report to work today. the chief told him, no, he needed to stay home and rest. meanwhile the suspect is behind me inside university hospital. he had surgery just yesterday. he suffered from multiple gunshot wounds. meanwhile he's been sedated and is recovering from the surgery. investigators haven't gotten to formally mirandize him. >> we have heard from the bar owner who was interviewed by ayman mohyeldin yesterday. but now he's expanded on what happened, how he discovered rahami on his doorstep. let's watch. >> when i maerd about the attacks and realized the suspect
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was sleeping in a doorway across the street i did what any american would do. i called the police. i'm not the hero. the police are the heroes. as a sikh american i could have been mistaken but my faith teaches justice and toll raptors for all. i know i'm lucky to live in a community that shares my view. >> the networking of law enforcement, first of all, spectacular coordination in the arrest. now to try to take it back as you were pointing out. not just his online communications but every trip he took and whom he might have been in contact with. it's not easy. he was supposedly visiting relatives in the refugee camps. that's a hot bed of radicals. >> it's long been the center of al qaeda activity in pakistan. what's happening now is his life is being deconstructed. his online activity, everyone he's ever known really. also his family's life.
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all of his relatives. we are talking about five siblings here. let's go back. this family has had run-ins with the community. run-ins with law enforcement over the last several years. what we have been able to determine over the last decade he made numerous trips to pakistan, presumably went to afghanistan. apparently met a woman there. got her pregnant. got married. was having trouble bringing her back to the united states. he returned to the united states, was living above this fried chicken restaurant. the fried chicken restaurant was the center of a conflict in the community. because it wanted to stay open 24 hours. the neighbors were complaining it was too loud, attracting an unsavory element. the police were called in at numerous times to shut them down. there was a physical altercation between the cops and one of rahami's brothers. there was an issue there. in response to the police visits
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there was a lawsuit claiming they were persecuted against. there is a domestic incident. there was a fight in the family. the police were called when ahmad tried to stab his brothers. >> that will raise a lot of questions like with the orlando incident why he wasn't on a watch list. pete williams may, in fact, have answers to some of the questions. let's bring pete back in. he's been talking to sources. >> the reason he was not on a watch list is no information was ever found that he had terrorism connections. here is the way it is explained to me by senior law enforcement officials. you may recall and i think richard was talking about it. i apologize. i wasn't listening. there was a fight at the house. this led to the domestic violence charge between ahmad rahami and his brother. they got into a fight. he ends up stabbing somebody. he stabs his sister.
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there is yelling. while the fight is going on a neighbor overhears the yelling, hears the father say at one point, you're a terrorist, get out of my house. the neighbor called the police. the police come, talk to the neighbor who says, i heard the father say his son is a terrorist. the police notify the fbi's joint terrorism task force. at that point rahami is arrested for assault. he's jailed for a time. subsequently they are never pursued because the case basically goes away. nonetheless based solely on what the neighbor did interviewed the father. that's not what i meant. i was angry, it was an outburst but i don't like the people he hangs out with. he hangs out with gang members.
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there is an assessment under the program it has for when the allegations were made and finds no evidence whatsoever of a terrorism connection. then the fbi reinterviews the father after doing the assessment. the father says i don't believe my son is a terrorist. i made the statement in anger. i have no reason to say so. finding no indication whatsoever that he was -- that ahmad rahami was a terrorist, the case is closed. he was never put on any watch lists. it is all an outburst that a neighbor overhears. according to the fbi looking into it. there was never anything to it at the time two years ago. >> pete, that's a very cogent explanation of what could have happened. richard, one thing that occurs is do they take it the next step
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and look into what they have had in pakistan or afghanistan? >> from what they are saying there was a domestic incident that he spent a little bit of time behind bars. the allegations, the charges were dropped. it was never pursued. the father recanted the statement saying he didn't mean his son was really a terrorist. it was a figure of speech. should it have been followed up? obviously hindsight is 20/20. >> the fbi says it was followed up. they looked at it. >> okay. >> based on what the father had said. they found there was nothing to it. they looked at his associations with people. they didn't find any terrorist connection in 2014. this is two years ago. of course it's after he's done some travel to afghanistan. after all that's where the family is from. you have to look at it through the lens of 2014.
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the fbi's conclusion that this is based on an outbufrst of anger. he's been charged with five counts on law enforcement on the new jersey police. assuming he was in the shootout. that's when you can see whether or not terror, bomb-making charges. tell me what the legal next steps would be. >> this is different things because of the state charges. they say he aimed his gun at five different offices. that explains the five attempted murder charges on a police officer. the firearms charges as well. on the state charges. that means the federal
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government could take its time building a bombing case. there is no rush to do it. he's not going anywhere. he's not getting out on the street. they are not going to make $5 million bail. he's off the streets because of the state charges. it gives the government time to pursue the bombing case. work up a complete criminal complaint or present it to a grand jury. the federal government has no deadline for them to act. i would be surprised certainly. maybe by the 28th but there may not be. >> thanks to all. joining us now, congressman adam schiff from the house intelligence committee. thank you very much. we wanted to get all of the legal and investigative issues out there. is there anything more you can share you know of this investigation and your assessment of whether it was handled correctly?
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>> it leaps out to me. hats off to law enforcement. the amazing similarities between this case and tsarnaev of the boston marathon bombing. you have the child of asylum seekers who appears assimilated, becomes radicalized, had foreign travel. very much a subject of interest in afghanistan, pakistan who built a bomb very much along the lines of aspire magazine who placed bombs along the route of a race. just as in the boston case. the similarities are dramatic. as richard engel is pointing out we are looking through the media that was seized. we are looking through the foreign travel doing a complete dissection of as much as we can find out about him. the most pressing question, of course, is did he act alone. i don't think we know the answer
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yet. obviously in the tsarnaev case this wasn't a single person acting alone. that's probably the most pressing inquiry. we haven't seen intelligence to indicate there was overseas direction of the plot. with encrypted communications we may not know if there were communications from overseas. there is no evidence of it yet. also no evidence that there is a foreign-based cell operating. that's a separate question from whether he had accomplices. >> what about the components and the explosion, the materials he used. some very sophisticated. at the same time the fingerprint and other things indicate someone who is not very well versed in bomb-making. >> we see it a lot. we see elements of sophistication in many attacks and elements that look amateurish. in terms of where some of the devices were planted, that
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didn't make much sense. if you are trying to inflict maximum casualties the one that was along the route of the race could have been devastating. at the same time the way they were packed with materials to maximize the carnage and some of the other aspects of the devices were sophisticated. if he was acting alone he could do so many devices undiscovered and shows some sophistication. i think we'll learn more about how he was able to conceal it or if he could or if others were aware of what he was doing. >> congressman, donald trump's response in the speech last night -- first of all in an earlier interview he talked about law enforcement should be profiling. i talked to counterterror experts who point out the legal and strategic reasons not to do that. but at the same time he was lamenting that he gets a lawyer. that he's hospitalized with room
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service. if you could respond to donald trump's characterization of this in the last 24 hours. >> it's hard to know where to begin to critique his response within the last week on a whole host of events. in terms of this terrorist attack to say he should be deprived of medical treatment this is akin to the idea that we should bomb and kill the families of terrorists the way he viewed not just all refugees but all immigrants through the prism of the threat they all pose to the united states. imgrapts are either murderers, rapists. refugees are all potential terrorists. that's the way he views the world. he would basically follow the narrative of a clash of civil indications. this is a terrible narrative at odds of our morals as well as tremendously counter productive. i will add one thing that leapt out at me earlier in the week
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when we had this mistaken bombing by the united states of syrian troops. we heard the russians say we did it deliberately because we are secretly behind isis. they got a big help from donald trump saying we, the president, secretary clinton founded isis. when he says these things it has real world consequences and plays into the narrative of our enemies like isis and also into the narrative of the russians. >> any reaction to donald trump, jr., tweeting out with the official logo of the campaign. so he wasn't just copying an earlier tweet from a former congress member. tweeting out that this is like skittles. comparing syrian refugees, many of whom are children, to skittles, the candy. >> the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. this is a pretty rotten apple to
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say something like this that eventually children fleeing war and violence are like poison candy. i'm not sure what to make of it. it's another in a string of incendiary statements coming out of the trump candidate and the trump campaign. one we should all repudiate. >> thank you so much. as you speak of the campaign, 49 days to the election. six days to the first debate. brand new national polling numbers coming up here on "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us. be the you who doesn't cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infectionsnd cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. before starting stelara® tell your doctor if you think you have an infection or have symptoms such as: fever, sweats, chills, musc aches or cough.
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i know more about isis then the apprgenerals do. age. john mccain, a war hero. he's not a war hero, he's a war hero because he was captured. i like peoplthat weren't captured ok. donald trump compared his sacrifices to the sacrifices of two parents who lost their son in war. how would you answer that father? what sacrifice have you made for your country? i think i've made a lot of sacrific, built great structures. i've had tremendous succs, i think... those are sacrifices? you're looking at live pictures from high point, north carolina, the first of two campaign events for donald trump in north carolina. hillary clinton's return to good health paving the way for a resurgence in the polls as well. our new nbc news survey monkey online poll showing clinton back at 50% with a five-point lead over trump nationally. clinton is up five points when
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gary johnson and jill stein are included. joining me now, the national correspondent peter alexander. mark murray and kristen welker covering the clinton campaign. first, peter, the uproar over skittles. i was talking to adam schiff about this. the congressman was reacting. this is a continuing problem with some of the tweeting from the trump family and from the trump campaign. >> this is just not the message the campaign wants to talk about. defending the issue. this is on stationary that said trump, pence. this was trying to make the argument against admitting refugees in the united states. we can put up the tweet for people who aren't familiar wit. it said if i had a bowl of skittles and told you three would kill you, would you take a handful? he said that's our syrian
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refugee problem. there was outrage. the clinton campaign called it disgusting. there were photos all over. skittles was the number one trending item showing images of young children, the famous picture of the child with the stunned gaze looking out beneath the blood and dust. the other young boy who washed up on the shores of the mediterranean from september of 2015. skittles weighed in saying skittles is candy, refugees are people. we think it is an inappropriate analo analogy. >> going back to trump's speech, hoe spoke in fort myers, florida. he said against president obama's immigration policy but the immigration policy, the refugee policy has nothing to do with the afghanistan family. the suspect is a naturalized
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citizen that came here at 7. the energy should be focused on radicalization. what do you do as there have been debates over the course of the campaign. you can't stop the internet from reaching individuals like this to radicalize them. we have witnessed some situations here. this is less about immigration and the refugee problem than it is about the challenge we face on our soil. the challenge of combatting home grown terror and the question to a lot of people on the trump campaign. a lot of republicans are struggling to answer is what happened with the system working or failing. you don't want there to be an explosion. you can't watch everything. >> where do we find the polling right now? hillary clinton since last thursday back on the campaign gave a speech in north carolina. then went to the hispanic
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congressional foundation event. then the next day was campaigning in d.c. also campaigning saturday night at the congressional black caucus. has she stabilized the campaign after a rough couple of weeks? >> the nbc survey monkey poll shows up tick in the numbers from last week. the news environment was all about her health, the deplorable controversy. now with the new survey with donald trump in the spotlight again all of the sudden we are seeing a tick up in the poll. she's ahead 50 to 45% with likely voters. the first time the online weekly tracking poll from survey monkey has done likely voters. looking at registered voters she has a six point lead over donald trump. last week it was a four-point lead. better movement for her.
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we'll see what the other polling looked like. some democrats can take comfort in the numbers. >> kristen welker, hillary clinton now meeting with the national security adviser trying to advance her strategy against isis, against her counter terror policy, national security which she began on friday at the meeting in new york. the friday previous i should say to the meeting in new york. as she speaks about her counter terror policy, the contrast with donald trump could not be more dramatic. >> it couldn't be more dramatic. you're right. she's having a meeting with mike morel, matt olsson and others trying to draw a sharp contrast from donald trump who yesterday started again for racial profiling. secretary clinton saying that type of divisive rhetoric feeds into the hands of the terrorist.
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she accused him of being a recruiting tool for terrorists and focused on the tool to defeat isis, this intelligence search. combatting recruiting efforts online. undoubtedly those are among the conversations she's having today in the conference call with part of the national security advisers. she wants to put forth the image of a commander in chief. if you look at the polls they are sharply divided. more people see her as meeting the commander in chief test but donald trump has more voters trusting him on the issue of combatting terror. headed into the debate, putting renewed focus on national security, foreign policy. all week long she'll be doing debate prep as well. >> we don't know a lot about her preparations for the debate. >> we don't. they are really keeping it under wraps. we have been trying to get to who is playing trump and how many hours of debate prep she's doing every day.
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clinton campaign officials stress she's taking it seriously and in essence preparing for two different donald trumps. will the combative donald trump come out or the donald trump who can be more measured, the donald trump we see typically when he has a teleprompter. her challenge is preparing for both. also preparing to sort of break down what are complicated policy issues into easily understandable sound bites, if you will. that will be critical. the campaign says, look, she has to make it easily understandable to voters. >> powerful trio. thank you for the political news. on monday we'll be part of nbcsn's all-day coverage of the first presidential debate. live from hofstra university in new york and nbc's lester holt will be the moderator of the first debate at 9:00 eastern. coming up, donald trump
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to a lawyer, medical treatment. joining me now, cory gardener, a member of the senate foreign relations committee and supporter of donald trump. thank you very much for being with us. i don't understand what point he was trying to make there. are we saying this man who was in a shootout with the police, was injured, will be interrogated when he recovers should not be given medical care and should not get a lawyer? >> look, i heard his comments through your audio right there for the first time. i think he's expressing frustrations of the american people who continue to face the real live threat of terrorism. not just abroad but in the united states homeland. >> yet we should be able to combat terrorism without violating the constitution. i think people would be praising what law enforcement accomplished in new york city in the last 48 -- >> we have to make sure we give credit to the first responders, law enforcement officials for finding the perpetrator of this heinous act for reacting in a
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way that found additional weapons that could have caused even more destruction. what we also heard today was the president of the united states go before the united nations general assembly to a very confused, had to be very confused audience that has seen the united states work to build relationships with the leading world state sponsor of terrorism to a nation that has now befriended cuba, a communist nation that continues to jail its own people. while distancing ourselves from our long-time allies in europe, in the middle east, around the globe. this is what i think the american people are so frustrated about today. an american policy that appears to have left our nation weaker than it was eight years ago. >> would you suggest we cut off relations with china, the biggest economy other than ours and most populist nation in the world because of their human rights abuses and jailing of people? >> we should be more firm when it comes to china.
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let's talk about north korea. the president created a policy in north korea led by hillary clinton called strategic patience. in the last several years of the obama administration, four nuclear weapons have been detonated by the north korean regime as a result of the failed policy toward north korea. there is one nation, china, that's responsible for 90% of north korea's economy. yet the united states is refusing to implement many of the policies that this body, the congress, united states senate passed unanimously with bipartisan support to make sure china is standing up to the north korean rejeechlt yes, i think we should be more firm toward a forgotten maniac in north korea and a president who is willing to put in place a strategy to defeat terrorism, end the conflict in syria and protect the american people. we have a president who acknowledged his policy was one of leading from behind who called the united states junior
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varsity -- called the terrorists junior varsity when it comes to acts against the united states. that's not leadership. his speech before the united nations today shows that. >> i don't think he would say it is his avowed policy of leaving from behind. that's for another debate. >> as a result of this president's actions we have seen the emboldened iranian regime continuing to fund terrorism. we have seen an iranian regime that continues to create conflicts in the persian gulf at a greater rate today than in previous years. encounters with the u.s. naval ships that had to fire warning shots against iran because of the incursions near u.s. ships. we have seen attacks in san bernardino. we have seen attacks in orlando. that's because we don't have the
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right. there is a responsibility not just to talk about united nations speeches but to talk about all he accomplished but to come up with a strategy defeating the enemies, identifying the harm they can carry out against the united states and assuring people he's on top of it. >> right here in new york the world's top diplomats are trying to find a way to repair war-torn syria. up next, talking to the top official in the so-called islamic state. this is "andrea mitchell reports."
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a secondary air strike killed first responders. the u.n. calls it an attack on humanity, a war crime threatening to unravel a tenuous cease-fire broken by secretary of state kerry and his russian counterpart. this has the u.s. led coalition continues the fight against isis. joining me now is the special presidential envoy for the global group to combat isis. thank you very much. busy time here. this horrific attack on the aid convoy. the relief agency calling it a crime against humanity. the u.s. telling us, the white house and state department officials telling us this was air strikes and the only people in the air are the regime and russians and the russians are the guarantors of the regime. russia claims it was artillery from anti-assad rebels. >> we think it was an air
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strike. it wasn't us. this is a convoy that was well coordinated. people should have known where it was. obviously secretary kerry had a candid discussion today about this very thing. a number of countries from the region and about 24 countries from around the world trying to deescalate the conflict. we need to find out what happened. we think it was an air strike. there are only two candidates for that. >> if we think it is an air strike and the fact we have come out strongly, i have to assume we have good intelligence. >> we monitored the situation closely. we tried to figure out who's doing what. that's something we try to do and russia tries to do as we try to work with the russians to deescalate this conflict. we worked through geneva and other channels to keep the convoy moving.
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it was carefully coordinated. for the convoy to be a target of the strike was outrageous. we think it was an air strike. >> you have a very complicated battlefield to say the least. you have turkey going against the rebel forces who we have supported and russia claiming that they are going against isis but also clearly working with the regime. how do you combat isis or isil as the state department refers to it? with all of the different players with different agendas? >> number one priority is combatting isil. if you look at the last 18 months taking back the core territory they have not won a battle on the battlefield in well over a year. we have a great deal of momentum in iraq moving toward mosul. we had a good meeting last night to discuss the coordination.
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when it comes to syria it is more complex. we are not working with the government. we'll never work with the regime of bashar al assad. we are working on the ground to take care of territory. when we started this two years ago, isil controlled the entire border almost with turkey. now they don't control any of it. i was in syria two weeks ago. it's a complex situation but we haven a understanding. we are revolutionizing how we do this. we have to keep in mind when we started the campaign we work with local actors who know the local territory so there is a sustainable lasting defeat of isil, different from u.s. forces going in to take cities. since we started the campaign we lost three of three americans. that's three too many. if you consider what we have done in working with the coalitions this is a sustainable long-term basis to defeat isil.
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in the last three weeks we have eliminated mohamed ananni who was in charge of all external attacks around the world. we eliminated his minister of propaganda. we are taking back their territory, taking out their leaders. it is not just iraq and syria. we are working to share information to stop attacks before they happen. we have been breaking up attacks in canada. we just took out the head of isil in bangladesh. this is a multi faceted global campaign. it is difficult, challenging. one of the most complex things we have done. we are making progress against these terrorists who have to be defeated. >> the suffering in aleppo is
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terrible. the convoys have stopped. how do you put it back together. if it is proved that this is a russian sanction or regime air strike is that a war crime? >> twe'll let the lawyers speak to that. we want to focus on humanitarian. >> how do you trust the russians? >> we don't. we looked at it closely. there is no military solution. you look at the carnage and the death toll. it's not only in the opposition areas but the opposition killed fighters on this side of the regime. this will go on forever. what we say to the russians candidly is you may think you are playing chess in russia. it doesn't seem you thought three, four moves ahead. you have lost pilots, helicopters, people. where is this going without a
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political solution? without a political solution this will never end. it will go on and on. the only way to end the conflict are terrible atrocities. all these celebrities caught in the cross fire is to deescalate the conflict. we had a serious set-back with the outrageous attack against this convoy. with the bombing attacks in aleppo. it has to stop. the agreement that the russians signed onto with this agreement is stopping all syrian air strikes over opposition areas. that's part of the agreement. to get there we have seven days of deescalated violence. they have to prove they can deliver their part of the bargain. >> thank you so much. i know how busy it is for you. >> i'm honored to be here. for lower back pain suffere,
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out rarage is growing after video showing police shooting and killing an unarmed man. an officer said terence crutcher wasn't cooperating. another officer said he had hands in the air. he died later at the hospital. the officer who shot crutcher is on administrative leave. they are confirming crutcher didn't have a weapon. this morning hillary clinton commented on the steve harvey radio show. >> we have to takele systemic racism, a horrible shooting again. how many times do we have to see this in our country? in tulsa, an unarmed man with his hands in the air. this is just unbearable. it needs to be intolerable. so, you know, maybe i can by speaking directly to white
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people say, look, this is not who we are. >> joining me now is an msnbc contributor and political reporter for the "new york times." nick, this was an unprompted comment by hillary clinton on the steve harvey show today. >> that's right. i think she feels she has to bear witness to these moments and this was a constituency she wants to talk about. i think black lives matter movement has brought this to the forefront. candidates like hillary clinton and bernie sanders tried to embrace it. i think it is interesting that she's speaking to a prohere that the other side of the aisle and donald trump said there was not a real problem. they are speaking to a separate world on the issue which is discouraging. >> alternative universe indeed. there is new reporting this morning that donald trump. this is about the trump foundation, the charity claiming trump used $8,000 from his charity to settle legal problems. the clinton camp said clearly
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the trump foundation is as much a charitable organization as trump university is. this is something that didn't happen during the primaries with trump. >> the foundation was under scrutinized during the primaries because it didn't do much of anything. we can see other great reporting. the essence is to collect money from other people and deliver it to make donald trump the charitable giver when it is other people's money. now getting a hard look, i think. >> we learned from the white house that president obama will be out one or two days throughout october. he's all in on behalf of hillary clinton as the top surrogate. >> it's super important for her. the real challenge clinton has now is to get the obama coalition we have heard so much about out to the polls. tsz people of color,
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let me state this very, very clearly. as you know -- at least most of you know -- i have been saying this for a long time. this didn't just happen like yesterday. immigration security is national security. [ cheers and applause ] i assume she'll be changing this but do you know what's been happening? my opponent has the most open borders policy of anyone ever to seek the office of presidency. it's not even close. as secretary of state she allowed thousands of criminal ail yents to be released into our communities because their home countries wouldn't take them back. they were too bad. they didn't want them. so we took them. now obama wants to bring in, as of two days ago, an additional 110,000

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