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that's going to do it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." hallie jackson is back from the critical state of pennsylvania. have a great show. >> hi, everybody. i'm hallie jackson live in philly, pa. we'll have more on the fight for the keystone state, key to 2016. we begin this hour with a different city in turmoil. within the last 90 minutes, charlotte police now saying there will not be a curfew there, even after a night of violence, even though it's a state of emergency. police also confirming they will not release the tape of that deadly police shooting of keith lamont scott. >> the video does not give me absolute definitive visual evidence that -- that would confirm that a person is pointing a gun. i did not see that in the videos that i reviewed.
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it supports what we heard and the version of the truth we gave about the circumstances that happened that led to the death of mr. scott. >> i asked again for calm, peaceful demonstrations from our citizens. it is important that we have a full and transparent investigation of the original incident. >> the latest police shootings in charlotte and tulsa sparking a firestorm on the campaign trail. and in remarks that just wrapped up, donald trump calling for more policing. >> more law enforcement, more effective policing is what our country needs and we need it quickly. this is a national crisis and it's the job of the next president of united states to work with our governors and mayors to address this crisis and save african-american lives. >> moments ago attorney general loretta lynch weighing in, calling for an end to the
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violence. >> the department of justice is sending four members of our community relations service to charlotte. i urge those responsible for bringing violence to these demonstrations to stop. because you're drowning out the voices of commitment and change and you're ushering in more tragedy and grief in our communities. >> a lot to talk about today, so let's begin this hour with nbc's tammy leitner in charlotte. she was in the thick of last night's protests. talk to me about the new information we're learning. this morning the mayor emphasizing charlotte is open for business. what's happening on the ground now that we're seeing, for example, these new remarks from the a.g., the new comments from the mayor and police? >> reporter: you know, hallie, things are quiet right now, but this is exactly what happened the last two days. they were quiet during the day and then they escalated. the mayor herself said she briefed with the police chief and they decided they didn't need to bring in additional resources because they felt thins were going to be calm and remain calm. then we saw what happened last
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night. things got crazy very, very quick. this started as a peaceful vigil for keith lamont shot, 43-year-old man shot dead, and it escalated quickly. they started the vigil in a park not very far from where we are, and then walked over to a church. then some of the group splintered off and headed to the epicenter. that's where we met up with them and things got out of control very quickly. protesters were throwing bottles. protesters were smashing in windows of businesses, kicking police cars and it was at that point that police in riot gear came out and shot off tear gas, shot off flash-bang grenades and this went on for hours and hours. we were on the front lines as this continued. >> stay with me here. in washington we're seeing members of the congressional black caucus holding that news conference, calling on the attorney general to act.
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we heard from loretta lynch within the last ten minutes. are people in charlotte watching what's happening in the federal capital? do they want federal action? what's your sense? >> reporter: i think it's more of a microcosm situation for the people here in charlotte. they feel very connected to what happened when keith lamont scott was shot dead. one thing the protesters were saying last night when we were talking to them, they want justice, they want justice. they said that over and over, they want justice, which means they want to see the video of what happened and how this shooting went down. as we know, police chief kerr p pu putney has no intention of showing it to the public. we know he's going to show it to the family but we don't know if we'll see that. >> thanks. keep us post on the scene in charlotte. joining us in a couple minutes will be one of the congressman who's at that cbc press conference. we're waiting on him. in the meantime i want to play
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you noo sound we're getting in from paul ryan. i think we have that. house speaker paul ryan talking about what happened, reacting now, weighing in, just within the last hour or so, to the violence in charlotte. listen. >> these images are just so heartbreaking and upsetting. the loss of any life is a tragedy. the response to that cannot be more violence. as leaders, it is our responsibility to promote calm, peace and dialogue. we cannot allow our nation to be divided up along racial lines. i hope leaders can come together to find solutions. that's what we're trying to do here in the house. >> i'm joined by former chicago police dmitry roberts. i want to talk about that news conference. chief putney defending his decision for not releasing the
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body cam tapes of the shooting. >> i'm going to be very intentional about protecting the integrity of the investigation. what i can tell you, though, is when taken in the totality of all the other evidence, it supports what we've heard and the version of the truth we gave about the circumstances that happened that led to the death of mr. scott. >> so, protesters say, release the tapes. they want transparency. the charlotte police says doing so would harp the integrity of the investigation. you've been there, you've been in the trenches. what's your take on this? >> it's really simple. the mayor, the governor, the chief of police, they have to take a different approach to this. it can't be toeing the line that this is with what we're going to do. there are exceptions to the rules made all the time. this should be one of them. my recommendation is they have a select group of civic, faith-based, law enforcement and political leaders that they can show the video to. and then allow those members,
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those trusted members of the community to then tell the story from their point of view. >> so, do police have a point, do you feel it could harm the integrity of the investigation if they release the tapes? can you see where police are coming from or do you think in this case they just need to get it out there? >> as a former law enforcement officer i understand the policies and procedures very well. again, what i think can be done here is putting people into play that are trusted, vetted, that have a voice in the community that can help to offset some of the violence, some of the protests and talk down some of the rhetoric that's been going on. calling on leaders like mark morrell of the urban league -- >> i want to get over to the white house briefing room because josh earnest is being asked about this right now. hang on. >> publicly some of these issues
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and to raise this policy -- or these policy questions as a legitimate priority. something that's worthy of careful consideration by policy makers all across the country this is a particularly complex set of issues, in part, because we know that the vast majority of men and women who work in law enforcement are genuine public servants who keep their community safe and who put their lives on the line to do so. there are countless k356example that the president has cited of individuals performing that work heroically and saving lives and saving communities. what's also true, what the president's also addressed, is there are legitimate concerns
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that have been raised about inequities in our criminal justice system. those are inequities that break down, in many cases, along racial lines. and those are difficult questions that must be confronted. they cannot be ignored. and the president certainly played his own role in making sure that these issues are not ignored. the president has talked about them publicly on a number of occasions. the president also convened a tafblg force on 21 st century policing that brought together academics, leading law enforcement officials to talk about steps that communities can take to build this trust. and the president continues to believe it's in the interest of everybody for this -- the relationship between local law enforcement and individual communities to improve and to strengthen. that certainly increases the
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safety of local law enforcement officials and law enforcement officers. it makes them more effective at doing their jobs and also makes our community safer, which is ultimately everydy's goal. >> i have quite a few questions on that. i wanted to ask about -- accusing the u.s. of intentionally attacking the syrian military, saying multiple were involved. i just wanted to get the white house reaction to his comments. >> i think we've already addressed publicly that over the weekend there was an incident that is under investigation by the department of defense because it may have resulted in a strike not against an intended isil -- >> that was white house press secretary josh earnest addressing what we have seen unfolding in charlotte over these last 48 hours or so, talking about what he called the
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legitimate concerns about inequities in the social justice system, talking about what president obama has done to address that. this issue obviously reaching the white house, the eyes of the nation really on charlotte. i want to go back now and bring into the conversation dmitry roberts. thank you for letting me interrupt you earlier. you're a former chicago police officer. you were listening in to what the press secretary had to say, talking a bit about the job and the role of law enforcement officers and the environment they're conduct their jobs in. what are your former colleagues telling you about what they say, particularly in a place like chicago, which has been beset by so much violence? do they feel there is conflict between police and community members? >> no, they don't, because they're dealing with the community very effectively every day. there's a very small percentage of incidents that lead to things that we see playing out in north carolina or playing out in tulsa, oklahoma.
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most police officers and community officers have positive engagements all the time. they need to be highlighted. but as we turn the corner and look at those issues nationally, we have to build those bridges better between the communities. what i mean by that is start to be proactive in community engagement around these tough issues. this is a chance not just for the north carolina leadership but leadership throughout the country to start taking a different approach to these very unfortunate situations. >> nbc's ron allen is with us now, i believe, from the white house. we were just listening in to josh earnest talking about this. the white house, president obama again and again and again has addressed the issue of police violence, of police shootings. what feels different to you, if anything? >> reporter: as you say, hallie, it's again and again. just a couple months ago when there was that mass shooting in dallas and baton rouge, louisiana, the president in that situation was trying to do what
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he always does, walk this balancing act of trying to, on the one hand, talk about what he sees as legitimate concerns about inequities in the criminal justice system, about statistics that say black men are arrested more, incarcerated longer, than their counterparts. at the same time, the president wants to praise and recognize the heroic work that first responders, police officers and other law enforcement officials do out there every day. and that is something that he has been accused of not doing during his time in office. and that is something that he has pushed back at aggressively in the wake of dallas and baton rouge, minnesota, there was a big meeting here at the white house of law enforcement officers from around the country. the president walked into the meeting and said, what should do i? what do you want me to do? essentially confronting his critics. i think the bottom line here is it's again -- there are patterns and each situation is tragic and unique in its own right. but there are these similarities. president obama, frankly, has
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struggled to try and find the solution, not that any one individual could, but it's something that's clearly on his agenda going forward. there's this broader issue of criminal justice reform that the president and justice department have been pushing. something he's trying to do in the remaining time he has here. basically aimed at trying to make the punishment fit the crime in some of these situations to mitigate the effect that long incarceration sentences have on communities of color, especially. hallie? >> ron allen, thanks. to the campaign trail where we find nbc's gentleman cob rascon. he's about a five-hour drive west of me in pittsburgh where trump just spoke. trump has been talking about race relations. he mentioned this policy he would like to enact on stop and frisk. he touched on this earlier today. >> reporter: he did. yesterday he brought it up, in fact, at a town hall that was used to address african-american
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issues. the problem is stop and frisk in new york, it's well documented that it it disproportionately targeted african-americans and minorities. in 2013 it was ruled unconstitutional. and at the time city officials praise the the policy, many of them did, and now many of them have called it a mistake. today he tried to clarify saying he was only talking about chicago where stop and frisk should be implemented. just now at this event here in pittsburgh, he didn't mention stop and frisk. instead he said we need a nationwide anti-crime policy. he said we're a divided country. he said many things in generalities. he has said stop and frisk, and talking about the attacks over the last week, we need profiling. here's a clip of what he said about stop and frisk today.
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>> stop and frisk worked. we had tremendous shootings. if they see a person possibly with the gun or think may have a gun, they'll see the person, look, and take the gun away. they'll stop, they'll frisk and take the gun away. they won't have anything to shoot with. how it's not being used in chicago -- to be honest with you, it's quite unbelievable. >> reporter: so, stop and frisk, profiling, going back to the muslim ban last year, he said we have to do it. he said the same thing about profiling and stop and frisk. >> thanks, jacob, there in pittsburgh talking about donald trump's latest policy proposal. reminder, too, it was ruled unconstitutional in new york. today's microsoft pulse question, though, touches on this. amidprotests of police shooting of keith scott in charlotte, trump told fox news the country is very divided and getting worse. so, do you agree?
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we are back now live from philadelphia, not far from where donald trump will be holding a rally. we're monitoring a lot this hour, an naacp press conference happening now, and also looking ahead to the big debate four days away, moderated by our own lester holt. check out the nbc/"wall street
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journal" poll where hillary clinton is leading trump and also here in pennsylvania. a lot at stake. hillary clinton not on the campaign trail today. she's at home, hunkered down in debate prep. we have new reporting from nbc's kasie hunt about what this means. i understand even clinton aides are surprised it hasn't leaked out who is playing donald trump in this debate prep. >> reporter: that's the big secret, hallie, who is standing across this mock debate stage from hillary clinton as she prepares for this. i've had some people say that when it gets out we won't be as surprised or excited as we think we might be. it might be somebody lower profile. the point is preparing for this for hillary clinton, it's all about body language, it's all about -- what is she saying with her face as she looks to the camera because her aides feel she feels that she is very well prepared when it comes to policy, and what she's proposing
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for the country. we know her to be a student. we know she pores over books. that's how she typically approaches it. her aides are not concerned if she's thrown a policy question about her ability to handle it. the question is the unpredictability of donald trump. the aides are watching old debate tape, war gaming it out. the one thing they have to guard against is her tendency to get defensive if she's asked about a topic she doesn't want to necessarily talk about. you caught a glimpse of that at the commander in chief forum. >> kasie hunt, out there for us in brooklyn. i'm joined by former pennsylvania governor and ed rendell, nbc political analyst and hillary clinton supporter. thank you for joining us. let's talk about debate prep. here's what donald trump said about the debate on monday. listen. >> so, we'll stay cool.
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we'll see what happens with her and we'll see what's going on with her because there's something going on that a lot of people are trying to figure out. i'm going to be very respectful of her. there's trump saying he's going to be respectful of hillary clinton in the debate. this is a huge moment for both of them. how does she handle it if donald trump is not the wild card that the clinton is partly strategizing for? >> i don't think there's any possibility that he's going to be gentlemanly to her throughout the entire debate. >> you don't think -- >> i don't think he can do it. and you saw the innuendo, there's something going on wither. this is the woman isn't strong enough to be president stuff, and he said that over and over again. she doesn't look presidential, she doesn't have the stamina. so, i don't think donald trump is going to go through this just
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talking about substance. there are going to be some zingers, some innuendos. the question is does she handle it by ignoring him and focus on the issues, be knowledgeable and likeable or does she zing back on occasion? >> rich lowry says this is how trump could win. trump has a significant not-in advantage because there's a lower standard for him saying trump can win by clearing a bar of acceptability whereas clinton has to do more than that and significantly woon trump or make a case for herself. this is echoing what clinton campaign folks have been telling us, the idea there might be a double standard. when you look at where donald trump can be strongest on this debate is authenticity. polling shows she's seen as less authentic. how does she overcome that? >> i don't think you necessarily do that in a 90-minute debate. she has to show the american people she's knowledgeable, she
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isn't. she's stable and steady, he isn't. if she can do those two things, she'll be the winner in the debate. >> isn't so much about the optics and how you connect with people at home when we expect monster ratings for this debate? it's her opportunity to overcome this perception she's unauthentic. >> i think when people watch a presidential debate, they sort of close their eyes and say, can that person be president? they're not saying, can that person be authentic? they're not even saying, can that person be all that likeable. is that person presidential caliber? i think she can demonstrate that. she can also be funny, and i hope she will be. >> is that advice you've given her? >> yeah. i actually told priebus, smile more. >> he took that as gender criticism -- >> if trump says something stupid, i would have a big smile on my face and then zing him.
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zing him with a smile on your face. >> i've got to ask you, we're in philadelphia, about this stop and frisk issue that's been in the headlines, obviously, because of donald trump. obviously, former mayor of philadelphia. you listened, i think, to donald trump's call for more stop and frisk in the wake of those police shootings. what's your take? >> you can always stop and frisk if there's reasonable suspicion. a little different standard than probable cause. but stop and frisk people who are walking on the street, you can't do that without profiling. profiling muslims. profiling african-americans. and a statement like donald trump made, it's a good way to jack up the african-american turnout, which in pennsylvania is the thing i am worried about most. if we get a good african-american turnout, there's no way we lose the state. let donald trump make all those statements in the world. >> we have to let you go. thank you for being with us. i know we're hoping for a 3-0 start for the eagles. ed rendell, appreciate it. turning to new developments
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the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live. my 41 years of working for the city of charlotte, i have never witnessed what we've seen in the past 48 hours. this is not charlotte. this is not how we have operated as a city in the past. charlotte is a community where we work towards tolerance and work towards understanding. charlotte is a community that together seeks the truth. i'm urging each of you, members of our community, to come together in peace. we are a peaceful people. >> that is yet another call for calm today as we look ahead to
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potentially a third night of unrest in charlotte after protesters and politician clashed wednesday at that prayer vigil that turned violent. it prompted the governor to call a state of emergency, and the national guard brought in just this morning. the looting and violence leading to 44 arrests, injuries to nine civilians, five police officers. let's go to nbc's ron mott checking in with us from charlotte. talk to me about this. the announcement that the video of shooting will not be released. do you think we can anticipate more clashes between protesters and police, given that protesters wanted to see that video? >> reporter: i think it depends on how much the family -- the family is going to view the body cam video from officers at the sustain. so if the family said people -- if you're going to protest, protest peacefully. if the family is convinced it showings something that was, perhaps, a threat to the
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officer, that the officers had perhaps some justification with acting with deadly force in that case tuesday night, then maybe that message from the family gets out to the community and we don't see what we saw here last night. we're across the street from the bus depot. a lot of people milling around. a number didn't want to go on camera but they say this is not charlotte, echoing what the police chief said, we've never seen quite what we saw last night, a number of people shocked at the vandalism and what purpose does it serve for people to take their frustration and show it in that manner by destroying property? we were just up the street. there's an african-american historic complex of buildings down here that was built many, many years ago, scores of years ago, that was -- that to be the center of the economic community here in charlotte, it was also hit last night. here's some sound from a gentleman who's doing some business there. >> for us it's a minor setback.
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this is just physical damage that can be easily replaced. we're all concerned about -- understanding how we as a community move forward to address the underlying issues that call and drive this sort of outrage. for us, this is minor. we can fix this. the behavior that led to this destruction, i don't know there's a lot of reasoning and thoughtfulness behind what they were trying to do or where they try to do it. i think when you got a mob mentality involved, this is the sort of thing that happens. >> being black is not a crime. stop killing our people. >> reporter: some pretty poignant words from those people. being black is not a crime. legalize being black. i can tell you there's some discussion about -- the police have said mr. scott was in possession of a gun. apparently there's some pictures or video or still image of a gun purportedly that was in his possession on the ground at that
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apartment complex. obviously, the video is not going to be released. you know there's a new state law going into effect the 1st of october where video -- police video, body cam, dash cam video, is considered -- it is not considered public property and, therefore, if it's being investigated, it will not be released to the public and they have already made that decision that the public will not see this video shot from the other night. hallie? >> nbc's ron mott in charlotte, thank you. on this day of fast-moving developments, check back in with us, ron. we'll talk about the presidential candidates, both calling for a change in police practices after those shootings in tulsa, oklahoma, and then, of course, in north carolina. in the hours after the deaths of terence crutcher and keith scott, hillary clinton and donald trump took very different stances on why the shootings happened, offering very different proposals on how they'd fix the fractured relationship between police and the african-american community.
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>> how many times do we have to see this in our country? in tulsa, an unarmed man with his hands in the air? i mean, this is just unbearable and it needs to be intolerable. >> this young officer, i don't know what she was thinking. i don't know what she was thinking. but i'm very, very troubled by that. >> joe watkins is a former white house aide for president george h.w. bush and strategist and james peterson is director of african studies. thank you for being with us. james, i want to start with you. you heard hillary clinton connect the shootings to what she called systemic racism. donald trump saying the officer may have choked. is it more about poor policing or more about race? >> i think it's a combination of
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both, hallie. i think the only way that political leaders and those folks seeking presidential office should be talking about this is in the context of systems of institutional bias. it sdblt doesn't make sense to talk about the individual law enforcement officer. we've seen so many of these incidents over the last several years that it can't be about any one individual officer. it can't just be about bad policing. it has to be about institutional biases, the way police are trained that factor into these whole processes. i'm not hearing from either secretary clinton or mr. trump what some of the actual policy remedies are. i'm not hearing we need to actually have a federal database that actually looks at these instances that counts them so that we can sort of have a federal sense of what's going on at the national level. i'm not hearing specifics about how you train law enforcement officers to make split-second decisions that insulate them from the racial bias everyone has. we all have them. until we start hearing some
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policy remedies around these issues, i see a lot of this as political rhetoric right now. >> joe watkins, we talk about specifics from both candidates but let's talk about specks from donald trump. he says he wants to institute more of a stop and frisk policy if not nationwide, at least in chicago, as he talked about. how is that not antithetical to the african-american community? >> first of all, i don't think he's trying to reach out with the african-american community. if you want to have serious dialogue, talk with the head of the naacp, people with huge constitutecies or talk to african-american communities where african-americans have been shot and killed by police. this is a terrible thing. if you're as african-american as i am, doesn't matter if you're democrat or republican, stop and frisk is a nightmare for
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african-american young men. if i take off this suit and tie, wearing casual clothes, driving in my car, i'm as subject as anybody else, especially those african-american men shot, to be stopped and frisked. i don't like that policy. that's a bad policy for people of color. >> why isn't donald trump talking to people like you about some of these policies, do you think? >> that's a great question. it would be great if he engaged with african-americans and talked about these hard issues and began to figure out ways to change it. community policing might be one way to do it. i have two brothers-in-law in law enforcement, one in federal and one in local law enforcement. they talk about the importance of community policing so police officers are not afraid of the people that live in those neighborhoods and aren't inclined to use deadly force when they don't have to. i would love to engage in this conversation to come up with a clear policy that fix this is because if you're african-american as i am and a male, you want this fixed.
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you don't want to see another man or woman, for that matter, die at the hands of police anywhere in this country. >> james, on the political side, while clinton does lead trump by wide, wide margins when it comes to members of the african-american community, she's still not near where president obama was. we talk about that obama coalition, black millenials in particular, why isn't she getting to where the president was back during his election? >> well, there's a number of reasons why, hallie. number one, we can look at criminal justice reform, which is a very important plank in the millennial sort of constituency of the progressive wing of the democratic party. so, millennial young folks, young folks of color and young white folks are daeply interested in criminal justice reform. they understand mass incarceration. they know what the numbers look like. they understand the unconstitutionality of things like stop and frisk. so not having that as a central feature of your platform is one of the reasons why you'll see millenials disengage. let's be very, very clear here, hallie. the democratic party has a problem in terms of claiming and sort of keeping together the
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obama coalition in this particular sense. there are a lot of folks who have drifted to the left of a much more centrist democratic party. you can see how bernie sanders struck a chord with millenials across this nation. unfortunately, i don't think the clinton campaign has done all it can in terms of suggesting certain kinds of policy that map onto the progressive sentiments of millenials at this time. there's a lot of gaps that have to be closed. certainly what we're talking about right now, criminal justice reform is a very, very important plank in the progressive wing of the democratic party. unless it's going to be central in that platform, you'll see folks, young folks in particular, look for other ways of protest voting or look for other political parties in order to address what their concerns actually are. >> joe watkins, james peterson, thank you both for being with us here. we want to get to new information just into our news room. at 2:30 this afternoon, about an hour from now, we will hear from the north carolina governor, governor mccrory, talking about the police shooting in charlotte, talking about the
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violence and the protests there over the last 48 hours. you will be watching that right here on msnbc next hour. but in the meantime, we'll continue to follow any developments out of that city regarding the unrest there. time now, though, for another look at our microsoft pulse question. given these protests over the police shooting of keith scott in charlotte, donald trump told fox news the country is very divided and getting worse. we want to know, do you agree? here are the results so far. 21% of you agree, 79% of you do not. polling -- voting is open for another hour. pulse.msnbc.com. hillary clinton banking on an easy win here in pa, but donald trump making a huge push to win the would hestone state. two rallies here today. could he make a dent in the lead she's currently enjoying? our time-lapsed view of people visiting the liberty bell in my hometown of philadelphia.
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and they danced. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you. welcome back to philadelphia, pennsylvania. i'm here because donald trump is pounding the pavement in the keystone state. he held that speech in pittsburgh earlier. tonight he'll have a rally in aston, south of where we are, chester in philadelphia. pa, by the way, a battleground state trumps he thinks he can put in play for the first time for republicans in a long time. right now hillary clinton, if you look at the latest poll out of the morning call, she is ahead fairly comfortably but, remember, we have monday's debate. that could be a game-changer. we'll talk about it now with senator robert casey, a democrat from pennsylvania and a hillary clinton supporter, who knows this state just about as well as anybody. thanks for being with us. >> good to be with you. thank you. >> a lot of talk about pennsylvania being hillary clinton's firewall. must she win here?
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>> well, i think she must and she will. she's not only ahead, but i think one of the reasons she's ahead right now is because people in our state know her well. they know who she is. they know her record. and they know her ideas. she's put forth a very specific jobs plan, not just for the nation, but in a very specific way to focus on creating manufacturing jobs in pennsylvania, advanced manufacturing, focusing on 100-day jobs plan, bringing broadband internet connectivity to places in the state that don't have it. so, she's really focused on a lot of our challenges and i think focused on the future of our state. >> well, senator, you talked about how you think she will win, and calling it, by the way, a must win. but if you look at other key battleground states, donald trump is doing well. he's tightening in the polls, i'm thinking of north carolina, i'm thinking of him ahead now in nevada, ahead in ohio, according to recent polling. he is going after disaeffected democrats in this state,
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blue-collar folks who feel the system is not working for them. i just wonder how concerned you are that her message will not penetrate. that donald trump, as he's done in other battleground states, flip this state. >> i think it is penetrating, but we still have a long way to go. most presidential campaigns are decided by a couple points nationally, including presidential races in our state. it's rare, very rare that someone wins by more than four or five points, or sometimes even two or three. hallie, here's the key. in pennsylvania voters have heard a lot of stories and arguments over the years about how to create jobs. hillary has a very specific plan for our state, as i mentioned, that focuses on our strengths and also our challenges, creating more manufacturing jobs. but at the same time, they also have a sense that what donald trump has done is pretty much adopt the whole republican philosophy, which is tax cut for the top and hope it all works out for the rest of us. people in pennsylvania don't buy
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that. he's really embraced the whole republican agenda that's all about tax cuts for the wealthy. that hasn't worked out well in our state since the republicans have tried to force feed tax cuts down the throats of a lot of workers. >> what does she need to do on monday night, senator, in your view? >> well, i think what she will do is speak to the two fundamental challenges we face as a nation. one is ensuring economic security. that's focused principally, i think, on raising wages. a real focus of her campaign, hillary said at the beginning of the campaign, raising income for hard-working americans is our number one challenge. that's the economic security part. the second part is national security. there's never been a candidate, ever, better prepared in the first hour. not just the first day, to protect our country, to protect the homeland, and to bring the fight to isis and to defeat terrorism, which is a long, long road to be on, but we want a
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strong leader like hillary. >> senator casey, very, very quickly before i let you go. senate republicans just introduced a potential resolution to fund the government through december 9th. will senate democrats work with them the government, will the senate work with them on that? >> we have been trying to work with them for a long time. republicans have played games with the funding bill for too long. we want to work with them but not when they put extreme measures in and keeping the government operating and focusing on zika and priorities. >> what i am hearing from you ais a no on this particular issue. thank you senator bob casey. >> we are four days away from the first debate. we'll be on for all day coverage, it will start at 9:00 eastern time. we cannot emphasize how huge this is.
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new battleground poll given donald trump the advantage in some states. does that mean his polls is changing. steve cornacki is here with us to break it now. i know you are up to that challenge. >> nowhere i am near that challenge. where can he make the end road.
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all the red states that you are seeing here, you got to hold all the red states. the biggest question mark there is north carolina. these are blue states and they are obama states. these represent his beth potential path to his preside y presidency. he lead in the average polls in ohio and he's tied in florida right now. he needs that. he's ahead in his district up here in maine. i can show you up here, he leave this is one district. look at wisconsin, he's trailing but morkeie competitive. if he does, he will need iowa and nevada, either one will point him to 270. that's the hurry up offense, halie. back to you. >> 59.2 second. steve cornacki, never disappoint. >> we also got by the way, the global citizen festival this
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lets take one last look at today microsoft pulse question. protests over the police shooting of keith scott in charlotte. trump told fox news the country is divided and getting worse. do you agree? check out the results here. 18% of you say yes and 82% of you say no. the pulse is opened for another hour. keep voting on msnbcpulse.com. >> 47 days until the election. four days until the first
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presidential debate. i want to hear from you. we'll be holding a facebook live event on monday and you can find me on any of these social media platform. hang out, for now, we'll switch it over to thomas roberts. >> halie, thank you very much. we are expecting to hear from the state governor at this hour, he's expected to take to the microphone in about 30 minute in regarding to the shooting and killing of keith lamont scott by city police and the night protests that followed of the sit of charlotte remaining under a state of emergency. no evening curfew is planned right now after violent protesting for a second night. 44 people were arrested and one man was shot in critical condition currently. the mayor says the city is opened for business. charlotte remains on edge after the deadly

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