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mismanagement of his campaign, look at the direction the headlines have actually taken. it's been a five-day run of back and forth between trump and a former miss universe contestant featuring accusations by trump over her weight, accuse igs as of her by abuse by the now candidate. instead of a week pushing his winning issues, trump now rides shotgun on a wild goose chase in search of, you won't believe it, a sex tape. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> who gets up at 3:00 in the morning to engage in a twitter attack against a former miss universe? >> late night twitter takes over 2016. >> his latest twitter meltdown is unhinged even for him. >> donald trump gets an early start degrading a beauty queen for a fifth straight day. tonight, new worries from inside the trump campaign as new
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post-debate polling rolls in. plus new defections from republican stalwarts as clinton nabs more major endorsements. then the donald trump deposition tapes are out. >> i think people like that. >> why a federal judge is ordering an investigation into wisconsin's voter i.d. practices. >> hillary clinton is about the weakest candidate the democrats have ever put up. now we have photo i.d. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. did the republican party saw fit to nominate a tabloid and reality tv star for president in 2016 and sure enough less than 40 days until the election the campaign for the nation's highest office has devolved into a full blown reality show. this was day four of donald trump's feud with alicia machado, an exbeauty queen, actress and fellow reality star who accuses trump of insulting and humiliating her when she was miss universe in the 1990s.
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after hillary clinton recounted machado's story at the debate, trump could have apologized, simply changed the subject and move on, but as he's shown time and time again, donald trump is incapable of responding to any perceived slight from whichever random person in any way other than lashing out. last night he was at it again. he started tweeting at 3:30 in the morning as you do. a couple hours later he was still going sharing his latest thoughts. quote, wow, crooked hillary was duped. hillary floated her as an angel without checking her past, which is terrible. using her in the debate as a paragon just shows that crooked hillary suffered from bad judgment. did crooked hillary help disgusting, check out sex tape and past, alicia m. becoming a u.s. citizen so she could use her in the debate? political discourse in 2016. check out sex tape. quick fact check, clinton never called machado an angel or a
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paragon of virtue or anything else having to do with her sexuality or lack thereof or whatever has happened to her life. that's trump calling machado a slut so it doesn't matter what she says or how you should treat her. machado's own foibles have nothing to do with whether trump insulted or humiliated her. >> when she won the contest, i had never seen anybody more beautiful. and she's totally beautiful now, but come contest time, what are you talking about in terms of weight? >> our goal is to get her between 125 and 130. >> she gained 55 pounds. >> what does a girl eat in less than a year? >> she must never stop. >> i guess she ate a lot of everything. >> she really has turned out to be one of the great miss universes, i will say. >> thank you. >> she had a little problem during the middle where she gained a little weight. >> i don't think so. >> and of course there's this new theory, if you could call it that, though that stretches the
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meaning of the word that clinton helped machado get citizenship just to use her as a campaign prop which jives with his conspiratorial world view. according to newt gingrich, this is already a full scale clinton scandal. i think as fascinating to look at how the elite media initially bought the -- you know, this was the new benghazi lie. i mean, what hillary tried to set up and what they spent apparently months preparing was an ambush that was as false as bengha benghazi. it was as false as her claim she was under fire in bosnia. it was as false as the lies she told about her e-mails. >> that's newt gingrich who told the log cabin republicans a few days ago that you shouldn't gain that much weight as a beauty contestant. >> machado addressed those claims in a statement originally written in spanish. through his campaign of hate the republican candidate insists on discrediting and demoralizing
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women. i became a citizen of this great nation because my daughter was born here and i wanted to exercise all my rights, among them, voting. clinton responded to machado thanking her to speak out even as she becomes a target. clinton landed a pretty easy shot as trump's behavior. >> i mean, really, who gets up at 3:00 in the morning to engage in a twitter attack against a former miss universe? i mean, his latest twitter meltdown is unhinged, even for him. it proves yet again that he is temperamentally unfit to be president and commander in chief. >> this is what's particularly stunning about trump's latest outrage. even with the clinton campaign telegraphing every move, he just cannot help himself. in the weeks leading up to the debate, trump's campaign came under new management and someone, i don't know who,
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figured out how to save the candidate from himself. use a teleprompter, giving interviews only to friendly outlets, only fox news and steering clear of unsupervised tweeting. as a result the race tightened considerably. then the debate rolled around. clinton set her trap and trump walked right into it. he's still there thrashing around. and it worked. clinton clearly won the debate. almost every national battleground state poll shows her taking a sizable lead including nevada where she'd been trailing for the past month. trump cannot stop. so this is my plea to trump's team. just take his phone away. get him back on the prompter. give him policy speeches making as little news about this particular feud as possible. it's not funny or enjoyable. it's not amusing or satisfying to watch donald trump in this way. it is hurting the country, it is damaging to the thing that we're doing in trying to divine should should be the most powerful person in the world.
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some staffer seemed to have gotten control of his twitter account. for those few people knocking me for tweeting at 3:00 in the morning, at least you know i will be there awake to answer the call. joining me now katy turic who is covering the trump campaign. >> the state of the campaign troir to this past three days is they needed to get him back on track in terms of debate prep. they said they were going to get him behind a podium, get him a debate coach. they realized that he didn't do as well as he needed to do. they liked when he was talking about the economy and trade early on in the debate. they needed to find a way to get under hillary clinton's skin. since monday, donald trump has extended this story one day, extended it another day and another day, and then today, after reporters were getting source information about, you know, how they needed to get him a little more in line for the next debate, he just had a
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meltdown it seems like overnight in the middle of the night. and he started tweeting about sources and machado. i'm not sure what the state of the campaign is right now, because nobody's answering the phone right now. they are refusing to talk about what's going on behind the scenes because donald trump has reportedly told them all that if they say anything negative about his debate performance in any way, you know, they're going to have blank to pay. >> look, there have been three incidents like this. there was the vendetta against judge curiel, entirely self-inflicted. apropos of nothing. he happened to be in san diego which is where the judge was presiding over the case. and this mexican judge, started talking about judge curiel. stop doing this because you're a con. dnc, right? now alicia machado. i just find it a remarkable character study if nothing else. >> and there are three faces you
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can put either on to his sexism or prejudice or, if some want to take it there -- the hillary clinton camp wants to take it there -- to racism. judge curiel can't be unbiased because of his mexican heritage. he initially called him mexican. he was born in indiana. there's islamophobia tied up in that, somebody might argue. now with alicia machado, not only is she latina and she's a woman. it allows donald trump's detractors to go back and to dredge up every single thing he said about women in the past. >> the guy used to go on howard stern to talk about, you know, chest sizes and whether a woman could be a ten. >> he said it's hard to be a ten if you're flat chested. melania if she got into a car crash would he still love her. as long as a certain part of her
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body was still intact, he'd be fine. listen, he was an entertainer. this is howard stern. but if you looked at how he changed his rhetoric about women, it hasn't changed that much. he said he cherishes women on the campaign trail. he used to at least. she gained a massive amount of weight and that's a real problem. does that matter to those who support donald trump? not at all. we talked to 20 women the other day in florida. not a single one of them cared. they thought hillary clinton was worse. >> he needs a lot more than the 40%. >> he's doing so poorly with women right now in general that he needs to find a way to connect with them, to convince them that he's on their side. the campaign knows this. he hasn't done that. >> katy tur, thank you very much. >> thank you. joined now by wendy davis from texas and republican strategist also from texas. i'm partial to texans across the political spectrum, let it be
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said. i mean, i guess, look, so there's two ways to interpret what's going on here, right? someone called this when hillary clinton called alicia machado d sa this was the sandra flock of this campaign, she's the young woman at georgetown who had testified at a house hearing about birth control being covered without a co-pay. rush limbaugh went on this totally disgusting rant against her. and it became a huge issue in that campaign. >> yeah. >> is this -- to you is this part of something larger with the republican party or is this donald trump being donald trump? >> i think it is part of something larger. and i think that it's why people are so afraid of donald trump's candidacy from the right side because they fear that he's exposing in a much more out front way, a lot of the misogyny that's really been behind so many of the policies of the republican party. if you look at what's holding
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women back from full equality in this country, it is an attitude that women shouldn't be provided the same opportunity, and it's why we still don't have equal pay, why we don't have family leave or affordable child care and certainly why we're seeing the assault on our reproductive freedoms. donald trump's bringing that all forward in a very out-front way. >> the two sort of rebuttals i would offer, then i want to get matt's response because i think he probably disagrees. obviously he's pledged to be anti-abortion up and down. >> yes, he has. >> they've also offer this child care policy which when you take in the details is actually not very good for a whole lot of reasons but seems to be a faint in that direction. matt, what is your response, this is part of a broader problem with the republican party? >> well, keep in mind, you know, hillary clinton spent all summer including at the national convention in philadelphia making the argument to republican voters that donald
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trump was not a real republican and he was not a conservative. i don't know if senator davis agrees with her now or agrees with her then, but at the end of the day -- >> it's possible she was wrong. >> certainly -- >> i think you, matt, would concede that sometimes hillary clinton gets things wrong. >> i guess we can all agree on that. what i would say is that the concern that you're stainto see and there's a "washington post" story just up a few minutes ago about the down-ballot fear that this is now triggering, right? you go before the debate, trump had momentum, the wind at his back, battleground states were moving in his direction, the national polls were tightening, he was down to a 2% deficit to hillary clinton nationally. this has been an awful week. at the end of the day hillary set a trap for him over this venezuelan former miss universe. the cosmopolitan profile was started before the debate. she had her at the debate there. she mentioned her at the end of
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the debate. trump walked right in. fell to the bottom of it, picked up a shovel and started digging and kept digging for five days on something that there is no argument to make against this woman. she's got nothing to do with anything. no one should be insulting her. she did agree to go to the debate with hillary, but to me when this campaign goes back to being about trump, he loses. when it goes back to being about hillary as it was the three weeks before, she loses because both candidates are viewed so negatively. >> there's something to that when he takes the attention off himself. but let me follow up once and then get your response, wendy. matt, here's the thing that i got to say. you're looking at this like everyone else. and i have republican friends and sources and i e-mail. everyone has the same reaction. what the heck is wrong with you? but they've had that reaction three dozen times over the course of this campaign. and yet the vast majority of republicans in polls say they're voting for him. the vast majority of republican
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officials say yes this is the guy that should control america's nuclear arsenal and make life or death decisions to send young men and women into combat, this man should have his hand on the rudder of the american government even though they all feel the same way. how do you scare them? -- square them? >> that's a great question. it gives me pause myself. there's a great expectation that once he becomes president he'll be surrounded by experienced people and a system. i'm not sitting here saying he's going to be perfect. at this point i think he has a 20% chance to win the national election. but that's one school of thought. the other school of thought is that he's going to at least sign legislation that republicans in the house and senate pass and send to him. tax reform, perhaps entitlement reform. strengthening border security, things like that. building up the army. obviously supreme court justices. we know hillary won't do those things. for a lot of republicans, hillary has unified them behind trump.
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trump has not unified them behind him. >> this is who republicans are. this is why republican voters are sticking with him. with the exception of the alienation of a large body of women that he has brought upon himself, republicans are still sticking to him. and they're sticking to him because this is what this party is becoming. it is the party of fox news. it is the party of the misogyny and anti-immigrant and anti-cultural diversity, and it is showing in large form through donald trump's candidacy and the way that people are responding to powerfully and positively to it within that party. i think that's why republicans are so upset about him being the standardbearer for their party. i think they understand that he's calling out into the open something that has been pushed quietly for some time. >> wendy davis, matt mackowiak.
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today the san diego tribune, a paper that has not endorsed a democrat for president in its 148-year history endorsed hillarclinton calling her the safe candidate for president. clinton has picked up the endorsements of the traditionally republican nevada he rub pick, houston news and chronicle. the "usa today" published an op-ed under the headline trump is unfit for the presidency. that's from their editorial board.
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hillary clinton's 15 major newspaper endorsements, gary johnson has 6, donald trump has zero. if you count the primaries clinton has over 80 papers endorsing her. trump picked up the santa barbara news press, the new york post and "the national enquirer." all of this is part of a broader phenomenon which is not only are elite noogss opposing donald trump but america's political and business elite as well. zero current or living ex-presidents are supporting trump. the former nominee is supporting him. not a single fortune 100 ceo has endorsed him. the question is amid america's ongoing crisis of authority, does elite opinion carry enough weight to even matter. joining me now the cincinnati inquirer editorial board and editorial page editor at "usa today." david, let me start with you. you guys don't do this. this is not a newspaper that
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does every four years it's we endorse how did this process work out that you got to this point? >> we have an incredibly diverse editorial board from progressives, liberals, centrists, conservatives, libertarians. we don't agree on a lot of things. but as this campaign has played out, we tried to keep an open mind. we listened during the republican convention as donald trump attacked a gold star family. we tried to keep an open mind. we listened to the debate and donald trump was unhinged again. we came back to the editorial board in the next day, and it was pretty easy to get to a consensus that donald trump did not belong in the white house. >> cindy, i'm sorry, i missaid your name. >> yes. no problem. >> at an editorial paper like yours, they tend to lean to the right. >> we've had some changes over the years. and we described ourselves at
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the beginning of the year as a fairly centrist editorial board and we kind of set the tone and we hoped the expectations that we would be very pragmatic. we had five members on our board and we actually -- you know, we began this conversation, obviously, in the primaries. we endorsed governor kasich on the republican side and secretary clinton on the democratic side. and we've since been watching and we just, i would say, about in august we started to have that conversation again. we, of course, made our decision a week ago. so it was in advance of the debate. >> let me ask you this. you said trump is a clear and present danger to our country, which is a very profound phrase. in these uncertain times america needs a brave leader, not a brava bravado. a clear eye toward the future not the good old days. there's a number of papers and
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maybe they're more republican leaning than your own that had taken the gary johnson route. the stalwart republican paper endorsing gary johnson. why did you not go with that? >> you know, again i think it goes back to pragmatism. we felt that really at the end of the day either trump or clinton is going to be president and so we wanted to weigh in in a way that we felt would really count. you know, we did consider whether to go the third party route. and we decided that secretary clinton's, you know, foreign experience, you mentioned the clear and present danger issue and that her foreign experience in particular i think makes her the best candidate, although certainly as we noted a deeply flawed candidate. >> david, "usa today" is a paper that is available cross country. it is a paper that i think is a pretty down the middle paper. i would imagine its reeadership
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is across the political spectrum. have you gotten a lot of canceling subscription response? >> we've gotten some on twitter and we've gotten some phone calls. i was kind of surprised that the response was as civil as it was. i was expecting a little bit worse. >> you write in the -- this is not an endorsement of any particular candidate. it was an anti-endorsement saying our bottom line advice for voters is stay true to your convictions. whatever you do, however, resist the siren song of a dangerous demagogue. by all means vote, just not for donald trump. do you think you have sway? do you think people are listening to what is now a consensus chorus from so many parts of american life across an ideological spectrum that this is a dangerous demagogue? >> i really hope so. i think we tried very hard to be a centrist paper. one of the thins we always do is run an opposing view. in this case we ran an opposing view from mike pence. we try to be as fair or more
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fair as any other editorial page in the country. and it never happens that our editorial board is unanimous. i hope that has some power. >> cindy andrews, thank you very much. trump tapes the unsealed today. from the makers of claritin. clarispray provides 24-hour, prescription strength relief from sneezing, runny nose, and nasal congestion. return to the world. try clarispray today. announcer: they'll test you. try to break your will. but however loud the loudness gets. however many cheese puffs may fly. you're the driver. the one in control. stand firm. just wait. [click] and move only when you hear the click that says they're buckled in for the drive. never give up till they buckle up.
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washington, d.c., hotel that opened this month and two chefs that trump sued for pulling out of restaurant deals following his notorious comments saying that mexico was, quote, sending rapists among other things. a subdued trump doesn't say anything particularly offensive. defending his comments about mexicans saying they can't be that bad because they helped get him elected. the deposition is riddled with walk-backs and inconsistencies. he insists he never had seen a letter of credit, then admits he had signed it. he said he never discussed the restaurant deal with his kids, but then talked to his kids about it. it's years ahead of schedule. a line he's been using on the campaign trail. >> we're opening the old post office, under budget, ahead of schedule. under budget and ahead of schedule. under budget and ahead of
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schedule. isn't that nice? >> earlier this year the huffington post looked into this claim noting three press releases on his website claiming the hotel would open in 2015 or 2016. a hotel spokesperson asked trump why he was saying it was ahead of schedule saying the hotel is opening more than one year in advance. here's trump answering that question and specifically presented a 2013 press release saying the hotel would open in 2015. >> this construction scheduled to begin in spring 2014 with an expected completion in late 2015. >> okay. >> was that accurate at the time? >> perhaps, yeah. we were very much ahead of schedule. we're ahead of -- ahead of schedule and we also went higher end than we even thought in terms of finishes and materials. so we were thinking about
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completion some time at the end of 2015. we wanted to take a little bit more time and make it just perfect because we're so far ahead of schedule. this was, i think, schedule was '18, actually. >> what do you mean by schedule was '18? what schedule? >> we wanted to have it built prior to '18. we originally had -- you know, you had to be open -- i think it was '18. there's a specific date. then we're going to be opening in '16. >> so they claimed it would open last year and it opened this year. which is somehow two years ahead of schedule. got that? lergy relief. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. ♪ ok, so we drowned the fire... yep. stirred it... mm-hmm. drowned it again... mm-hmm. and now just feel if it's cold. yeah. cool.
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you know that a lot of republicans since 1984 in the presidential races have not been able to win in wisconsin. why would it be any different for ted cruz or a donald trump? >> well, i think hillary clinton is about the weakest candidate the democrats have ever put up. now we have photo i.d. i think photo i. did will make a little bit of a difference as well. >> he said the quiet part loud. a republican congressman from wisconsin admitting the state's voter i.d. law was put in place to get republicans elected. you'll never guess how it is working out so far. it's meant to ensure that wisconsinites can still vote by providing alternate papers, but whether it's constitutional hinges on state officials correctly informing the public about the process to get those
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alternate papers. in a new piece from the nation magazine, it appears wisconsin is violating multiple court orders by not promptly giving eligible citizens free i.d.s or certificates for voting. the day after the piece was published and with early voting already under way a federal judge has ordered an investigation. joining me now the writer of that piece ari berman, author of "give us the ballot." so walk us through the problem here that you're reporting on covered. >> the problem that 300,000 registered voters in wisconsin don't have strict forms of i.d. the state has relaxed the law based on court orders so that people that don't have a birth certificate or documentation that would prevent them from getting a voter i.d., they should be issued certificates for voting within six business days. >> just to be clear, this is a court order. the law was challenged in court. the court said to make this law compliant with the united states constitution, you have to relax the stringency of the
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requirements and give people the ability to have these alternate i.d.s so they can go vote. >> yes. >> in six days. >> absolutely. people are showing up at the dmv and they're not being offered these certificates and they're being told it will be six to eight weeks for them to get voter i.d.s, when early voting is going on. and eight weeks will be too late. >> you have a group that has this tape of someone encountering exactly this in a dmv. let's set up what we see in this tape. >> what we see in this tape, and i got the recording from molly mcgrath. this is a voter who goes to the dmv, is supposed to be offered a certificate for voting and they're basically telling him it will take six to eight weeks to get an i.d. >> sorry. >> we can't do anything about it. sorry. go back to illinois and get your birth certificate. >> take a look. >> i'm just wondering how that would work if you initiate the petition process do you get an
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i.d. for voting? >> no, you don't get anything. >> okay, so even if we start the petition process and it takes eight weeks. >> right. >> he wouldn't be able to vote. >> right. >> well, i don't know. they're working on that. so it's kind of up in the air right now. so if you want more information we can get you to the supervisor over there at window three. why don't we do that? >> the court order says if someone comes in, the court order says you got to get it to them in six days. that's the whole point. >> this is crazy because people are already voting in places like madison and milwaukee, they're saying you are not going to get anything. it's kind of up in the air right now. haven't they worked this out before early voting begins? it's not funny. because i talked to two different african-american voters, one 34, one 62. they both brought multiple forms of i.d. and they were not able to. they had documentation that should have allowed them to vote, been given a voter i.d. either immediately or within six days and they walked out with
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nothing. >> now you have a federal judge saying without a motion just issuing an order saying the state of wisconsin has to explain itself. >> the judge was clearly not happy. he said in the article, that scott walker's administration needs to investigate what's going on with the dmv. otherwise they're basically in contempt of court. they're not following the law. >> ari berman, thank you for this work. >> great to see you, thank you. still to come, the vote mitch mcconnell regrets casting and how he's somehow blaming the president for it. those mental gymnastics ahead. g.
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dishonest media. if they don't name the sources, the sources don't exist. this outburst of journalistic integrity likely comes as a result of this "new york times" piece that came out after the debate and relied on unnamed sources within trump's campaign saying things like even as mr. trump's advisers publicly backed him and praised his debate performance they were privately awash in second guessing. in interviews seven campaign aides and advisers most of whom sought anonymity to speak candidly expressed frustration and discouragement over their candidate's performance monday night. but you know what? trump does have a point. it can be very dangerous to make allegations without citing your sources. there's one person in particular who might want to heed that advice. and that's thing 2 in just 60 seconds. because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free
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very well. scroll down that same twitter feed and see that an extremely credible source told him that president obama's birth certificate was a fraud. or president obama listed himself as a foreign student on a college application. maybe the same credible source that told him the president was involved in some real estate scheme or this confidential source that said the president went on a national spending spree. and this source inside the new york attorney general's office concerned about their lightweight boss. then there's the time he said five sources told him the mexican government was intentionally sending criminals. >> i'd just like you to be as specific as you can in saying how do you know the mexican government is sending people over? what's the evidence of that? >> five different sources. >> what are the five sources? >> i'll reveal my sources when you reveal your sources, mark. >> okay. so there are five. okay? let's just remember donald trump's advice, if sources aren't named, then they don't
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on this vote, the yeas are 9 9. >> the nays are 1. the bill on reconsideration is passed. the objections of the president of the united states to the contrary not withstanding. >> on wednesday congress voted overwhelmingly to override a veto by president obama. the bill was a popular one. it's known as the justice against sponsors of terrorism act. allows the families killed in the september 11th attacks to sue the government of saudi arabia for any role that it may have played in the attacks. no member of congress wants to be seen as opposing 9/11 families particularly in an election year. president obama in the white house and others fought hard to stop the bill. they'd done so repeatedly and over a long period of time. when the president vetoed the bill he sent a letter to
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congress clearly laying out his objections including fears the u.s. and its citizens could face retaliation in foreign courts. lawmakers overrode, then almost immediately afterwards lawmakers started expressing second thoughts. 28 senators sending the letter to senate leaders urging them to re-examine the law that they had just passed over an override. and warning of potential unintended consequences that may result in this legislation, specifically, the very same consequences the president had been talking about. the white house described the situation as embarrassing. >> so it's hard to take at face value the suggestion that they were unaware of consequences of their vote. but even if they were, what's true in elementary school is true in the united states congress. ignorance is not an excuse. >> and you'll never guess who senate republican leader mitch mcconnell who voted for it and whose caucus voted for it, blamed for what went down.
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>> i think it was an example of an issue we should have, on a bipartisan basis, talked about much earlier because everybody was aware of who the potential beneficiaries were, but nobody really had focused on the potential down side in terms of our international relationships, and i think it was just a ball dropped. i wish the president -- i hate to blame everything on him. and i don't. but it would have been helpful had he -- we had a discussion about this much earlier than last week. >> wait, wait, wait. just think about that a second. the senate passed the bill, okay? then they sent it to the house and the house passed it and they sent it to the president. the president vetoed the bill and there are real drawbacks here. then they overrode the veto and mitch mcconnell said it was the president's fault for not telling them what was wrong with their own bill. mitch mcconnell went along with
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last week. >> as i watched mitch mcconnell blame president obama for congress overriding a presidential veto and passing into law a bill allowing saudi arabia to be sued for the september 11th attacks, a bill the president repeatedly warned could have serious consequences, i couldn't help think that this is the perfect illustration of everything that's wrong with the republican party in the era of trump. mcconnell said the single-most important thing we want to achieve is for president obama to be a one-term president. his party had so committed themselves to a vision that's no grander than destroying president obama and now hillary clinton they've abdicated responsibility for their actions including the rise of donald trump. back in march he was asked to blame him for his success with gop voters. >> i've been blamed by republicans for a lot of things, but being blamed for their primaries and who they're selecting for their party is
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novel. >> joining me now, democratic congressman hakeem jeffries in new york and robert draper author of "do not ask what good we do." and congressman, let me start with you. so i want to make the distinction here on this particular issue on people who support the bill on the merits, you're one of them, right? >> i do. >> you voted for the bill, for the override. >> absolutely. >> you think the bill's a good idea, you support the bill, you support the override. >> yeah. >> but to turn around and say, you never told us there were problems, you had to vote on this bill. is that credible? >> it's not credible at all. from my perspective as a new yorker, it was the right thing to do. nine 11 was an extraordinary event. it allows the victims of the families to determine the responsibility of saudi arabia. but what mitch mcconnell has done and the house of republicans has done is classic in terms of blame everything on
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barack obama. i mean, if barack obama was able to walk on water they'd criticize him for not being able to swim. from the very beginning they've tried to delegitimize him, dehumanize him, attack him, obstruct, and it's led to the creation of donald trump and that's what is impacting the republicans right now. >> there's also this desire to have a sort of -- to get the political victory without the cost. there was even talk about whether the house was going to hold it so they could have the vote and have the bill become law. and in some ways, robert, that's a little what the trump phenomenon strikes me as. there's so many conservatives who are -- it's like donald trump has the right enemies and that's kind of the primary driver. and whether the man is completely not up to the task of being president is secondary. >> well, it seems that what's happened with majority leader mcconnell is -- i mean, it's an
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illustration of a failure of leadership, but it's also a crisis of identity as in who are we? what are we about? and it's really been into that void that donald trump has walked. when he's done so, he's fractured, among other things, he's fractured in a very broad sense the republican party pitting voter against voter and congressman against congressman. it's become a little more personal in the conservative media, which is what i wrote about because there are people like george will and erick erickson, an coulter, sean hannity that may have been temperamentally different but they were in lockstep. trump has caused them all to make a voice about what conservatism is. i think congress, the republican-controlled congress, is caught in the crosshairs right now. they're not sure what to do. they don't want to get ahead of their skis, get ahead of the voters on this. from congressman to congressman a reluctance to endorse trump and a reluctance to denounce him
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except in very few key congressional districts. >> reading your piece it struck me that so much of what we do in politics and everyone is guilty of this, i even admit i'm guilty of it is this sort of bank shot reasoning. this person who i don't like or don't trust is against something so i'm for it. this election has completely destroyed the ability to do that, right? because you've got fortune 100 ceos and nome chonski on one side. if you're trying to navigate this based on who side i want to be on or who i disagree with, it's going the be unnecessity tangled. >> for some people they're simply pet issues. ann coulter has been hammering on immigration, laura ingraham on trade. for people there are principles that trump has violated by the score. there are others, still, who may view themselves as idealogically pure but who reject trump even
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when he does adhere to conservative principles just because they don't find him temperamentally fit to be president. that latter category is something that has really troubled a lot of republicans even those who can't stand hillary clinton. >> yet the near shutdown, the battle over this cr that just happened, it is a reminder to me that donald trump has been cleaved off, the senate is looking 50-50, if not leaning republican. to me you're going to go to work with these folks the day after the leaked. let's say hillary clinton is elected, they're not going to change. they're going to be the same way with hillary clinton the way they were with barack obama. >> hopefully for the good of the country, that's not the case. >> what evidence is there? >> there's no evidence. and robert and others have documented, though, chris, a day or two after barack obama was sworn in, house republicans gathered off site, their leadership. they said this our pathway back
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to power is to say not just no to barack obama's agenda but hell no. that was in the midst of two wars and the worst economy since the great recession. it's gotten them donald trump. and hopefully they'll learn their lesson. >> all this disunity disappears if hillary clinton wins because everyone is going to suddenly be singing off the same hymnal which is that hillary clinton is the worst person in the world. >> that's right. and i think, of course, that's why a lot of republicans are having difficulty even in their, you know, distaste for donald trump, devote for him because they've been hearing for 25 years that she's something right out of the book of revelations. if she were to become president, it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where the house, the republican-controlled house isn't already considering articles of impeachment. >> before she even puts her hand on the bible january 20th.
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>> thanks to you both. >> that is "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts now. >> have a good weekend. thanks at home for joining us this hour. happy friday to you as well. nice to have you here. one of the things that happens this time of year in the great state of michigan is something called art prize. this is the eighth year they've done art prize. it gets bigger and bigger every year. last year 400,000 people went to it. it's just become this huge phenomenon in that part of the country. basically what it is, as you can tell from the name, is an art contest. anybody can enter. they call it a radically open art contest. over the years thousands have entered it. they've got a panel of expert art judges that give out one big prize for the best work of art, and it's a big prize. $200,000 for the juried best artwork


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