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we'll stop them very powerfully, but i don't think all of us should be, unless it's a very confined room, we shouldn't be giving up our plans and it bothers me every time i see we're planning to attack this one, that one, but the one i saw over the weekend was mosul and they're talking about the attack. and the other problem is, you have a lot of leaders in mosul. they're not going to be there. they're getting out. because they hear they're going to be attacked. they go someplace. congress, would you agree with this? if i'm a leader and i see what everybody else is watching and an attack on mosul is imminent, i say, bye, folks, have a good time. i'm moving into a different city. so what are they doing? can there be, are we allowed to have any more in the military, general, the element of surprise? i would think it would be, it's called an ancient strength. and we don't use it anymore.
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>> principle of war. >> i think it's one of the great principles. the element of surprise. you could take a force that's not nearly as strong and with the element of surprise, wipe out a much more powerful force. i don't pretend to be a general or admiral or anything else but i just, every time i see, i see president obama get up, ladies and gentlemen, we are sending 50 people to iraq. 50. so that's bad in two ways. it's a low number. the enemy says, is that all? and number two, when you think 50 -- >> donald trump is speaking right now in virginia to a group of veterans supporting his campaign. he's describing what he says is the element of surprise which would be his vat ji to strategy. why so many weeks he has included on the debate stage, he would not reveal his plan to defeat isis. so far though, no mention of the big bombshell report from "the new york times" regarding his
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taxes. this weekend, the "times" published three pages of the filings. they received them anonymously in the mail. they show that trump claimed nearly $916 million loss which could have allowed him to avoid paying federal income tax for 18 years. that's according to tax experts hired by "the new york times." one of "the new york times" reporters, said there's more things to come potentially telling "morning joe," there's more to the story. still chasing him. trump responded by tweeting, i know our complex tax laws better than anyone who has ever run for president and i'm the only one who can fix them. the surrogates also defending him calling him a genius. >> the reality is he's a genius. i'd rather have a genius that wants to reform it. >> there's no one who's shown
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for mean yo more genius and the genius of donald trump has been to make sure he follows the law. >> the tax story raged, and donald trump went off script with personal attacks against hillary clinton. >> she's supposed to fight all of these different things, and she can't make it 15 feet to her car. give me a break. give me a break. i don't even think she's loyal to bill, you want to know the truth. and really, folks, really, why should she be? right? why should she be? >> nbc's jacob rascon joining us live from loveland, colorado. he'll be there later today. what are sources telling you about how the campaign is handling this "new york times"
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report and what could come out of it? >> reporter: you hear about how he's a genius. this is the ultimate comeback story and he knows the tax code better than anyone else. this actually fits his brand as somebody who said he's running as someone who's exploited the system, whether it's giving money to campaigns including the clintons or taking advantage of the tax code and for that reason, he said he's uniquely qualified to handle this but in another way, if he believes and his surrogates believe, of course, he's a genius for not paying taxes and his tax returns show that, why not, for example, release the tax returns now? we know from the primaries, we heard him use the exact argument the opposite way. in one of the debates, i know people who make a lot of money and pay almost no taxes. that's very unfair. so contradictory messages here. we're waiting to see the public event today. he mentions this and uses this
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and really wants to talk about this. if i could, tamron, let's take a step back and look at this week for trump. what a week it has been. just story after story, when it rains, it seaems to pour and talking with dozens of supporters, they will admit not all the times when you have the camera on them but in person, dozens of them, i'm telling you, admit they do not like the direction that he is going and you talked about during the intro and going off script. we heard his campaign manager, for example, saying she wouldn't advise him to go there in eterm of bill clinton and yesterday, he had a script and went off script. >> i think that's interesting analysis and this may also be the first time one of the correspondents in the field has noted this change in some of the trump supporters. for so long, it was everything he said whether it was perceived by the mainstream media as wrong, that his supporters would
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follow behind their candidate and now, at least what you're reporting, you're hearing more of his supporters, still loyal, express this concern with 36 days out. >> reporter: i'm talking nine out of ten supporters. probably talked to 40 or more supporters. they're talking specifically about him going after alicia machado and going after bill clinton, hillary clinton back in the day. they do say, of course, they will not support hillary clinton, but they just believe he can win if he wouldn't keep stepping on himself. >> thank you. let me go to kasie hunt. they're about to take off and campaign. kasie, quickly. the response from robbie mook, the campaign about donald trump's taxes. you see they have an opening here. >> reporter: that's right, tamron. they do. this is clearly the conversation that they've been wanting to have for quite some time. anytime there have been issues
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with the clinton campaign and transparency, they would say, why aren't you asking us more about donald trump's taxes and that is, of course, what you're seeing now. they're saying, well, if he's so smart in the statement, why won't he release all of it and show us the genius he is? i think this narrative plays into their hands and they feel like they've had a good couple of days. we're on our way to ohio, campaigning today in akron and toledo and even though frankly, the last week or so has been a tough one for trump in the wake of the debate, they still are at the point he could very well win ohio and i was talking to one republican who's working on the ground in ohio who says that their internal polling shows as many as a 5 point lead for donald trump depending who shows up to vote. the question is really, by how much do african-americans turn out, especially compared to previous years? she really needs african-american voters and young voters to turn out at the same levels they did or close to for barack obama. right now, we're not seeing that on the ground.
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>> kasie, thank you so much. let me bring in who's joining us live, former chief economist and former policy advisor for joe biden. also, an msnbc contributor. just wrote a "washington post" trump's taxes, how the game is rigged. a word that, jared, we hear donald trump use so much. before your assessment, i want to play in raymon shicone from the 1990s responsible for auditing his casinos. here's what he told katy tur. >> it's not a big deal. i think it's a big deal because no one has seen the tax returns. so all of the sudden, they're getting a snippet of the net operating loss but if you're familiar with that, it's not a big deal. >> jared, your reaction to that? >> he said it's not a big deal except it's a wig deal. it is a big deal and the reason is exactly as the accountant
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said. this is exactly what suspected, that donald trump probably isn't paying much in taxes. we don't know for sure because we haven't seen more recent returns but then claiming almost a billion dollars in losses because the tax code is set up, i use the word "rigged" and i think i can defend it by claiming the losses against future tax payments. by the way, something the average taxpayer doesn't have. most of us aren't walking around with hundreds of millions of dollars in losses that we can claim against our tax payments. this is a special privileged part of the tax code for real estate developers and they exploit it big time with trump here. >> as you hear his surrogates, giuliani and chris christie say he's a genius but lost nearly a billion dollars in one year. by many standards, no matter what you do for a living, that would not qualify you as genius in your field.
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>> so people have a very funny way of defining words these days on that side of the campaign, and yes. basically, if you lose, your win in this part of the tax code. because you can do two things. you borrow money and this is the trump play, basically in a sentence or two. you borrow a lot of money to buy a lot of real estate. once you borrow that money, you could write off the interest payments against your taxes. that's your first write-off and then declare depreciation on your properties. write off on your taxes an assumed amount of depreciation even while that is appreciating which, by the way, real estate was doing great in the '90s in new york and yet, somehow, this guy managed to write off almost a billion dollars in losses. >> others were doing better this that world and donald trump was losing a billion dollars but also, and again, you are the expert on taxes here. the fact that this was his
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personal income tax and not the company, what does that tell us? the bottom signature was marla maiples which is why some believe it was her tax form that was released because it was below it, you could see where she was supposed to sign it. whoever's, they're not denying they're authentic but personal taxes, not his business taxes. >> that's a very, very important and nuanced point. what trump is doing here is using something called pass through income. you take the income. you earn from your business. you pass it through to the personal side of the tax code. why would you do that? the reason is because you have a bunch of special tax breaks and privileged rates on the personal side. let's take it to today. in trump's tax plan, he takes the passthrough rate down from 40% to about 15%. so now, he's giving himself even another big fat tax break by taking that passthrough rate
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down to 15%. >> that's incredible. jared, thank you so much. we've learned more about taxes than i ever manaimagined we wou and at the same time, learned nothing because it's just three pages. we'll see if there's more. greatly appreciate it. coming up, both candidates seeing this bump now in the numbers after last week's presidential debate, hillary clinton inches ahead of donald trump leading by an average of more than 2 points. we'll break down the new numbers in just this morning. key battleground states. plus, the supreme court starts its new term today with one vacant seat and deadlocked on many issues. which cases will the the natina highest? and snl had fun with trump and the allegations he's been avoiding paying taxes. they used actual lines from the presidential debate and flipped it into funny. >> he hasn't released his tax returns, which means he's either not that rich. >> wrong. >> not that charitable. >> wrong. >> or never paid taxes in his
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that left the lower court ruliin place that blocked enforcement of this immigration program to allow 5 million people here illegally to remain. the justice department came here to the supreme court and said, look, you've got eight justices now. why don't you put this case on the shelf and wait until you've got nine justices and hear it again? but the supreme court today denied that without any explanation. that's the usual rule here. this is the first day of the term and we had 71 pages, a 71-page list basically of the cases the supreme court received over the summer that it's not going to hear and that was perhaps the most interesting one among them. another was a challenge by the washington redskins, the football team here in washington. they were challenging a decision by the trademark office to take away the trademark for the redskins name. the trademark said it was disparaging to native americans and that's in the federal appeals court to be argued in december but hoping to make an end run and get here to the
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supreme court, but they may yet get their day in court because the court has agreed to hear a challenge brought by an asian american band on the west coast that calls themselves the slants. the trademark office wouldn't give them a trademark. the lower court said that's unconstitutional. if the supreme court rules that, it would be a victory. >> the impact of merritt garland on the sideline, what this could have on the courts? >> reporter: we have eight justices now. if the senate doesn't hold a confirmation hearing, even if hillary clinton is elected during the lame duck session, we could go this whole term with only eight justices. so eight for now for at least the next several months, tamron. >> pete, thank you so much. and back to the polls. new numbers out nationally and the polls show hillary clinton getting a bump after last monday's first presidential debate. secretary clinton gaining 4 points and trump losing 2.
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now clinton with a 5 point lead and the latest real clear polling average has her at 47.5% and trump at 45%. each up slightly from before the debate. joining me now, senior editor of politics for nbc news at msnbc. 36 days out. you see the average there. what does that tell us? >> she definitely got a bump from last week's debate. simple as that. nationally and in the battleground sates. >> one of the states a lot of people are talking about. nevada. likely voters, 45%. 44%. and 65% clinton, 30% trump. we had jacob soboroff in nevada. several people called in on the radio station. latino voters supporting trump here. what are we seeing? >> the other thing going on in nevada is the white population there is less educated than a number of the other battleground states. they hold pretty firm for trump.
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we have seen the latino vote in nevada for favorable to trump than other battlegrounds. >> what is it about his message resonating there? >> it's right around where romney came in last time. so it's not that unusual you would see a republican polling at that level. >> it's unusual the things he's said. >> more of the average where latinos are voting for republicans over the last few years and nevada is simply an outlier. >> going to new mexico right now, hillary clinton, 35% and trump 31% and gary johnson, hometown, home state, 24%. jill stein, 2% there. thoughts on new mexico. >> that's really striking. i mean, that state, five electoral votes in the democrats camp in '08. bumped over to republicans in 2004 but it's been a democratic state primarily for about the last 20 years so the fact that gary johnson could be a big spoiler there. if this race gets closer, it could be a problem for hillary clinton because they're depending on those five electoral votes in the blue column. >> and the "washington post"
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numbers, his unfavorable numbers are getting higher and a conventional wisdom they had both thrown so much out there about the other that we would not see a shift in the number but we are. >> yeah. that was a really, really notable number for me as well, tamron. after last week's debate, you saw his unfavorables in the poll, in particular, go up to almost 65%. >> unprecedented. >> it is. and that's why many democrats who have been worried about this race and worried that it's still too close took some comfort from that because nobody can imagine somebody with that level of unpopularity being elected president. her numbers aren't great either but they improved after last week's debate and we'll see where they go going into the next one. >> thank you so much. a lot of numbers to chew on, but moving fast. thank you. up next, donald trump has had a history of lecturing americans for not paying their taxes but how does that hold up amidst the reports that he made on decades without paying taxes? joan walsh and david corn will join me.
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let's bring in our monday political panel. national affairs correspondent at "the nation" and washington bureau chief, mother jones. david, we've been waiting now, about an hour, since donald trump took the stage in virginia and been taking questions so far. no mention or no response to this "new york times" article. >> it's a smart play on his part but in the last couple of weeks when stories have come up that
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put him in a bad light, he hasn't made the smart play. the clinton camp might be worrying if he's not attacking the "new york times" or hillary clinton or somebody else for the fact he declared a billion dollars, almost a billion dollars, in losses and didn't pay taxes, presumably, for 18 years. so this may be finally the new discipline donald trump that republans have been yearning for, for weeks. and we'll see if it can last another 20 minutes. >> going back down the line because tweets last forever. even when you delete them, it's likely someone screen grabbed it at some point. facebook billionaire gives up his u.s. citizenship in order to save taxes. i guess 3.8 billion isn't enough. and then said in december of 2011, you know what is the worst part of barack obama's tuesday speech? playing class warfare. we pay for it with our tax dollars. if that report is true, those
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hours are not his dollars. >> did not count him. that's right. if it is not true, he could say, here's my taxes. let me show you. i did pay taxes. he's not, of course, doing that. he probably didn't pay taxes. and, you know, i'm sure mitt romney and david corn never dreamed that when the 47% tape was released, donald trump or the next gop candidate would be among the 47% who don't pay taxes but i'm with david. surprised he's not going after the, quote, failing "new york times". >> he said it's a hit job, their response to everything but david, you brought up something in the article that you guys posted on trump lecturing other people that played this was 2011. >> half of the people don't pay any tax and it's problem but we have 50% who just hit the 50% mark, 50% of the people are paying no tax.
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>> david? >> he's said this a couple of times, both in regards to mitt romney's 47% remark and also with that, it's the republican talking point that half of americans don't pay taxes. it's not very true. half don't pay federal income taxes. they pay other taxes because they don't earn enough money or seniors, retirees, students. so i don't know what the solution is. does donald trump want them to, the working poor to make more in taxes but you have repeated times, even at last year which he's come out and said, essentially, mitt romney said that half of america are free loaders. they're not paying taxes and they feel like entitled to handouts. now, if he hasn't been paying taxes and castigating the working poor for not paying taxes, i can't think of a bigger example of hypocrisy and i hope that the rest of the media and other people start asking him about it. >> if he would come on any of the national shows, which we now
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see he's not doing, does local, he does fox but he has not done a wide ranging national interview, even by phone which we saw. it seemed, every day. but in the statement that his campaign released, joan, it said mr. trump has a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family and his lows to pay no more tax than legally required. no word of the country. no word of making america great again. >> to support our military, our firefighters, talked about infrastructure, all of these things. no. he's not paying to support my of them, tamron. >> but some of his supporters clearly got the talking point to call him genius. on the campaign trail, many are saying, this is what you do. he found legal loopholes. what he did was not illegal. >> right. this is the problem. he's got this solid base and could kind of do anything and for them, they think it is genius. they think, they don't like paying taxes.
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if they were smart as donald trump, they would figure out a way to avoid it too but then the independent and the democrats not crazy about hillary clinton. i think the clinton campaign can use this. there's a fundamental sense of unfairness here that can be used to weigh upon people who feel like they're undecided, but in the end, are going to have a really hard time sitting it out knowing all of these things that trump has done. >> to joan's point though, when you have the clinton campaign now saying if he's such a genius, now we know the possibility he didn't pay taxes. the cat's out of the bag. show us how smart you've been for 40 years and the other issue, david, a lot of people not talked about, a billion dollars? you lose a billion dollars in one year and you are a genius? >> the thing too, is what happened in these instances, he loses it through his businesses but he's allowed to sort of apply it to his personal taxes.
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>> which we just talked about with jared bernstein. >> you and i and joan are not able to do that, i assume. >> that's a safe assumption. >> it's a special treatment for billionaires and so when he gets out there and talks about americans and how tough it is, he doesn't know but the bottom line here is that he needs to show us his taxes so we can see just how much of a genius he was and answer a lot of other questions that remain about him. >> when will the pressure? 36 days. so much pressure about hillary clinton to hold a news conference, to answer more than one on the e-mail server and various different ways, set that aside, when will the pressure, you know, get to the trump campaign and put him somewhere other than fox news? >> they have their own rules, i feel like. i just don't know why he's not being hit this way. maybe it's going to start this week because there are so many questions. >> thank you, david. thank you so much, joan. great. thank you. coming up, president obama
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until election day to campaigning for hillary clinton. what's the strategy? >> reporter: unprecedented. we are going to see him go out more often, at least once or twice a week and see him do the types of things that no one has done before as president. so really something different. now, tamron, you've been here so you know this. let me give you a lay of the land as i'm here. you can see where the marine guard is. that is the west wing. if you had an appointment with the president, that is where you go in. this is where i and other white house correspondents stand. it's pebble beach. nobody there. common at this stage of a presidency that the interest is out on the campaign trail and that's where the president is going to be going. we wanted to get a look at what the president's strategy is. so just a short time ago, i talked to his communications director, jen sakie. >> it's campaigning with a purpose. that means getting people to register early, to vote early. he'll be focused on a handful of
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states from florida to pennsylvania to ohio to north carolina and certainly could expand beyond there. you saw the first lady out last week. she's going to be out more this october. >> reporter: let's talk about the first lady because she's getting a lot of attention. president obama's approval rating hit a record high last month, but the first lady's is even higher. they would like her as much as she possibly can. as i swing around the other side of the white house somewhere her office is and her folks are. they're still talking to the clinton campaign of where she would go and how much to get out but again, doing everything from those appearances to local tv, radio interviews, social media, maybe even some mailings. all of that, again, in the works and the locations in the works because as you know, tamron, they're following those polls very closely. they're going to use the high profile surrogates where they need them the most. >> absolutely. great details there. joining me now, democratic congressman and civil rights
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icon john lewis speaking at the south by south lawn event today and how people can create change throughout the country. thank you for joining me again. >> thank you very much for having me. >> let's talk about this, this motivation you want to see in people, all of us to create chan change. this election is said to be the change election. these candidates could not be more different. we know you support hillary clinton. how does this merge to where we are as a country right now? >> i think it's important at this junction in our history for all of us to be engaged, to be involved. not any of us have the luxury to sit back and not do anything. we must get out there and push and pull and encourage all of our citizens to get out and vote like we never voted before. >> a lot of this conversation is focused, for example, in north carolina on the african-american vote, african-american women, making sure that some of these
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issues that should be universal concern for everyone, but especially in the black community. i know there's a screening of a black lives matter film, a student film that you particularly think is relevant and should be part of that challenge to all of us to do more. >> we have an obligation and a mission to do much more. when i was much younger, i remember we were sitting in and we got arrested and we went to jail. sat in the docks, sat for youth, now stand up for us. register and vote. >> how do you feel when you hear some of the analysis that the black vote is not motivated? that african-americans are not motivated to continue on what president obama sees a continuation of his legacy by supporting hillary clinton passionately? >> we cannot say that we are not motivated, we're not going to get out and vote. the vote is precious.
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it's almost sacred. it is the most powerful. and we must use it if we want to see changes, if we want to make america better. if we want to protect president obama's legacy. >> before, i know we have the beautiful images of you at the smithsonian national museum of african-american history and culture, you were there with the president. it was just a momentous occasion for america. and our history. but i have to ask you, right before that, donald trump had given a remark saying that blacks were soft than ever before. how did that strike you hearing that this candidate, for whatever reason is absent of history or a slip as many i don't know, but the notion that blacks are ancient history? >> i don't know where donald trump has been living or what world he grew up in.
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i know that african-americans are much better off. the signs i saw growing up, they're gone. and they will not return. the only places our children and their children will see those signs today will be in a book, in a museum, or on a video. slavery is gone. segregation and racial discrimination is almost of the past. we're not being denied the right to sit in and get a meal at a lunch counter or going into a restaurant or to get on a bus and be seated in a place we would like to be seated. our country is much better. i know african-americans are better today than the days when i was growing up in rural alabama. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about this "new york times" report that it's possible donald trump did not pay taxes
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for 18 years after losing nearly $1 billion. some of the committees you're on, human resources committee, oversight. a lot of your passion has been helping the poorest among us. when you hear that someone of his affluence, potentially was able to maneuver legally and not pay taxes for 18 years, what are your thoughts on that? >> well, it's shameful. it is a disgrace that someone who claimed to be a visionary, a few times over, haven't paid any federal taxes? in almost 20 years? what is that saying? you want to be president of the united states of america. you won't release your taxes? you're not paying any taxes? he's not fit to be president of the united states of america. >> congressman john lewis, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate you joining us to talk about many things, especially though this big event celebrating culture
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and challenging people to do more. thank you so much. >> thank you. up next, hurricane matthew roars through the caribbean. we'll take you live to haiti. very disturbing images as people scrambling to brace themselves for dangerous winds and more than 2 feet of rain expected to drench the island. plus, kim kardashian held at gunpoint inside her paris hotel room, robbed of millions of dollars worth of jewelry as kanye is performing in new york. he's told live on stage about this scary moment for his wife. we'll have the latest on what happened to her. i'm claudine and i quit smoking with chantix. by the time i was 30, i said "that's it, i'm a smoker for life." i wanted to be a non-smoker and i did it thanks to chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix.
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remove 4 times more stains than detergent alone. we are back with breaking news. just received an update on hurricane matthew. very dangerous cat 4 storm. the national hurricane center in miami showing it's slightly shifting closer to florida and the southeast coast later this week. right now though, we have video out of kingston, jamaica, where
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just swamped with rain. forecasters say it's catastrophic. it will potentially also do the same damage in haiti tonight or tomorrow. nbc's gabe gutierrez joining us live from the airport of port-au-prince. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: good morning. we're here in port-au-prince and the rain is taking up the air. it's expecting to pick up speed later this afternoon and in through the evening. also, into tomorrow. here in haiti, expecting 15 to 25 inches of rain in areas. some isolated spots could see up to 40 inches of rain and that could trigger deadly mud slides here. this country is still trying to recover from the devastating earthquake six years ago in 2010. since saturday, the government here has been trying to evacuate folks from the southwestern part of the country. but here in port-au-prince, the fear is this heavy rain and this mud slide.
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matthew now a category 4 storm with winds up to 140 miles an hour. its churning through the caribbean. has already impacted jamaica on its path or eastern cuba and then the bahamas, so yes, the fear here is in haiti, could be devastating or catastrophic impact. we speak with one agency. mercy corps is planning to mobilize and send its volunteers out to help people impacted by the storms. paris officials on the hunt for a group of gunmen who robbed kim kardashian in paris last night. the gunman disguised as police officers overpowered the night guard at the hotel and took the key to her private apartment after breaking in, police say they tied her up and took more than $10 million in valuables including a wedding ring. kanye was in a concert in new york city last night. ♪ to a woman so heartless
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>> i'm sorry. family emergency. i have to stop the show. >> kelly cobiella live outside in paris where it happened. what are investigators saying? >> reporter: they're not saying anything publicly right now, tamron. basically piecing this together based on sourcing that we have within the judicial, within the prosecutors office and a source very familiar with the security inside this hotel. it doesn't look like a hotel. there's no sign outside the door. it's sort of like a b&b for millionaires, that's how it describes itself, actually on the web site. kim kardashian was here last night after going to a fashion show event. it's fashion week. it was fashion week here in paris. she was, as she always does, very public about where she's going. lives her life online, as we know. she posted a video of herself leaving the hotel. it's unclear whether that's the
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reason that anyone knew she was staying here but she's public about what she does and where she goes. back here in the early morning the prosecutor's office. these five men disguised as police officers maid their way in, tied her up and stole the jewelry. as far as we understand she left very early in the morning. again, no hot leads as yet, tamron. police looking for the five suspects dressed as police officers. tamron? >> frightening, thank you very much. still ahead, trump's brutal last seven days in the daily briefing we'll take you through what might be the worst week in recent presidential campaign history. the week is over. what's happening this week that could continue to hurt the trump campaign? we've just been hearing so much about how you're a digital company, yet here you are building a jet engine. well, ge is digital and industrial. like peanut butter and jelly.
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joining me now mark murray. are you there?
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i see you. okay. the week that was. let's set the stage for this week. donald trump already on stage in virginia. to an audience of veterans who were already supporting him. not talking about the "new york times" story. >> absolutely. you know, it's been brutal from donald trump. not only the tax story but the a.p. investigation into potentially stuff he had with people on "the apprentice," his dipping poll numbers. it's been rough. the good news for donald trump is the vice presidential debate tomorrow and the next presidential debate on sunday are opportunities for him to turn the page. the bad news however is all the stuff that's come up in the past week were probably going to be fodder for debate questions at the upcoming debates. >> right. is that good news for donald trump given he's not accessible to the national media with a lot of this from the trump foundation to the taxes. the list goes on and on. to attacking the miss universe.
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even the immigration answer questions that linger regarding melania trump. he's in a position to answer a lot of questions or defend them. >> the good news is there is the potential to be able to turn the page to have an amazing performance. we ended up saying at monday's debate a lot of issues and whether it is taxes for the trump campaign, the past birther crusade. they haven't had good answers. they haven't been able to turn the page and say, look, we addressed everything. let's move on. that's the challenge mike pence has tomorrow as well as donald trump in the next debate on sunday. >> it will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow and how the week shakes out. thank you very much, mark. we'll be right back. for lower back pain sufferers,
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>> thank you, tamron. now on "andrea mitchell reports," unleashed. after a saturday night bomb shell reveals donald trump lost nearly $1 billion in a single year and could have avoided paying federal income taxes for nearly two decades. trump goes off script and goes after hillary clinton. >> she can't make it 15 feet to her car? give me a break. give me a break. give me a break. hillary clinton's only loyalty is to her financial contributors and to herself. i don't even think she's loyal to bill, if you want to know the truth. why should she be, right? why should she be? >> coming up the "new york times" reporter who broke the story after trump's tax documents showed up in her mailbox. trump surrogates singing the same tune. >> a genius.
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>> a genius? >> absolute genius. >> i would rather have a genius who understands the tax code who wants to rorm it. >> no one has shown more genius in the way to maneuver around the tax code. >> the man is a genius. >> live from new york snl flips over the presidential debate and trump's taxes. >> hasn't released his tax returns which means he's either not that rich. >> wrong. >> not that charitable. >> wrong. >> or has never paid taxes in his life. >> warmer. ♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. it is the billion dollar october surprise delivered to the "new york times'" doorstep. three pages from donald trump's 1995 tax returns reporting a loss in excess of -- almost a billion dollars. the loss reported by the times could have allowed trump to legally avoid


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