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good morning. everyone. i'm stephanie ruhle. we have breaking news. a track of destruction. hurricane matthew plowing towards florida on a path of historic portions, set to be at least a category-4 as it hits almost all of florida's east coast. >> this is serious. don't take a chance. this will kill you. time is running out. >> the track is a grim one. 2 million people already evacuated. >> smarter this to do is board it up and pray. >> matthew pounding the bahamas right this moment with gusts of 150 miles per hour. >> northern edge of this hurricane is just pounding the island. the wind and the rain is incredible. >> millions are boarding up, getting ready, and getting out as the historic storm roars ashore today. plus, in politics, round two. trump and clinton gearing up for the next debate, as each claims to have won the vp showdown.
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>> i think that tells you everything about who's qualified to be president. even mike pence doesn't think donald trump is. >> didn't mike pence do a great job? getting a lot of credit because that's really my first so-called choice. >> we begin today with hurricane matthew. it now appears we're looking at a worst case scenario. the storm is a category-3, but it is expected to move up to a category-4 or possibly 5 by the time it slams into west palm beach late tonight before heading up the entire east coast of florida. know this. there has never been a storm that could potentially travel along this much land with this much strength. states of marriage have been declared for all of florida and south carolina. north carolina and georgia have declared states of emergency for counties on the coast. in the caribbean, at least 25 people are dead, but that number could rise. and we've got correspondents up and down the florida coast and in the bahamas to bring you the
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latest on the massive, massive storm we're facing now. i want to take you to the bahamas, taking the brunt of the storm. tammy leitner is live in nassau. what is happening? we can see the wind right there. >> reporter: yeah, hey, stephanie. matthew made landfall here a short while ago. it is just getting worse. the intensity is increasing. we have been out here for hours. i want to give you a live look. look at this wind. these are more than 100 miles an hour. you can see it's blowing sideways. the trees -- sorry, stephanie. it's a little slippery and wet out here. the roof tiles are being hurled off of our hotel. and they are piercing through the roofs of other buildings. trees are down, power lines are down. every 20 or 30 minutes, we're hearing an explosion, which we're assuming are transformers. we lost power a short while ago. we have no idea how many other places on the island don't have
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power at this point. people have boarded up their homes, their buildings, and they're hoping for the best, but i can tell you, the isis a lot worse than anybody out here expected. stephanie? >> but tammy, in the bahamas, can those people be evacuated? where could they go? >> reporter: a lot of the people were evacuated. the people who chose to be evacuated. that haped days uz go. they closed the airport yesterday. anybody who's here now -- anybody that's -- anybody that's here -- sorry, stephanie. we're -- >> are you okay? >> it's very wet and very slippery, as you can imagine. yeah, that's my -- that's my camera guy. it's very wet, very slippery. we're on a balcony that is protected, but as you can imagine, these winds at more than 100 miles per hour, they're just coming through here hard. >> tammy, i want you to go inside. tammy, go inside. we need you to stay safe more than anything else. >> we're okay at the moment.
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>> please, go inside. that's tammy leitner, joining us from nassau, in the bahamas. time is running out for people in the southeastern u.s. to get out of the storm's path. i hope they're looking at how treacherous it is in the bahamas right now and taking seriously these evacuation warnings. let's take you to bill karins. he's tracking the hurricane. >> stephanie, right off the bat, i agree with you 100%. they're out on the balcony right now. about 12 stories up, and they're going through the eye of the hurricane. if they can still listen to us, they should go inside. even if they're on the protected side of the storm, we don't need accidents there. stephanie, we're talkingunts, you know, the bahamas and what we just saw there, and those pictures are what we're going to experience starting late tonight in florida, and then right up the coast. i mean, we're looking at, you mentioned worst case scenario, possibly historic, possibly the worst coast in recorded history of florida, and from west palm beach northward. the storm is right over the top where we had the live picture from, the nassau area at 125. we think it could increase 25
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miles per hour stronger than that by the time it get up toward ft. pierce early tomorrow. that would be even more destructive than uwitnessed. we'll get a new update at 11:00 a.m. right along the coast, almost 60 hours worth of hurricane winds on the coast of florida. our computer models are pinpointing the possibility of a landfall near port st. lucie. the space coast area is where we have been targeting, but the eye of the storm is pretty wide. even west palm beach is expected to go thru the eye. you're on the weaker side of the eye, but you winds will be 100 to 125. >> put that in perspective. if you're not in the eye, how bad is if if you're getting 100 to 120 mile snz. >> into catastrophic. most building codes in florida are pretty strenuous, up to 100, 120. you get these gusts 120-plus. windows will be blowing out,
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roofs will be blowing off homes and businesses and hotels. that's the stuff that it's hard to make something sturdy enough to survive for a long period of time winds up to 150. the problem, stephanie, is it goes from port st. lucie up the florida coastline. this is an incredibly destructive path. where that northern eye could be right along the coast. here's how it's going to look on radar. this is our future radar, shows you where the storm is this morning. you don't want to be in this, this is the eye of the storm, the center, the calm. the damaging winds are here, and the storm surge is north of that eye, so at 11:00 p.m. this evening, that eye could be doing catastrophic damage north of palm beach, to palm bay and the melbourne area. when we wake up tomorrow morning, could be over the top of daytona beach. backside of the storm weaker, but even there, 80-mile-per-hour winds in orlando, all the trees they have there, a lot of power outage problems even in orlando. as we go through the day friday,
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we worry about flagler county, st. augustine, and even brunswick. so i can't stress, this is our -- this is this decade's version of andrew, of a katrina, or of a rita. we haven't had a really horrible storm like this in at least 10 to 15 years. this is going to be a challenge for the politics of it, for all the emergency managers. all the power crews that are going to take weeks in some cases to get power back on. you name it, this is as bad as it gets. >> this is as bad as it gets. bill karins talking about when you wake up tomorrow, i think people in the state of florida aren't going to bed tonight. i want to take you there right now. waiting for hurricane matthew to hit. people in florida are bracing. blake mccoy is standing by. he's in ft. lauderdale. what's it like? >> reporter: well, stephanie, good morning. we're already this far out starting to see the effects of hurricane matthew here in ft. lauderdale. look at the surf that's been kicking up overnight and into
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the morning. you can see some people out there surfing, wind surfers not heeding the warnings to stay away from the beach and stay away from the water. keep in mind, we're still 12 hours out, as bill was saying, from maximum impact here in ft. lauderdale. the eye of the storm is expected to pass about 60 miles offshore late tonight. and if this is what it's like 12 hours out, you can imagine just how strong these winds are going to get later on. you can see over here, some businesses have been boarding up in preparation. keep in mind, though, in florida, as bill was talking about, with the building codes, since andrew in 1992, a lot of these newer buildings have storm shutters. they have hurricane-proof windows. it's the older buildings, though, that they have needed to board up the windows because they're just not able to take on this kind of wind. they have been preparing here for several days now. i canell you, i was at a gas station last night filling up. i had to wait about ten minutes in line to fill up. most of the stores are out of
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cases of water this morning. people have been going to the store to stock up. the governor is recommending at least three days of food and water because once that power goes out, it could be that long before crews are able to go in and restore power. let's walk a lilt further down the beach and you can see that people are out, but police are not removing them frault the water because at this point, broward county's low-lying areas are only under a voluntary evacuation. >> thanks. police, you stay safe. i don't want you to out there all day. i want to move up the florida coast to west palm beach, where we have heard it could be the eye of the storm. miguel almaguer is there with the latest. >> reporter: hey, stephanie. good morning. this is usually a busy sidewalk in west palm beach, but today, it's simply deserted. local businesses have been boarding up over the last day or so. local residents also doing the same. we're only about a block or so away from the beach. many people expecting a pretty dramatic impact from hurricane
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matthew. police have been in this area over the last 12 to 24 hours. also warning local residents that mandatory evacuations could come in this area at any time. a local gas station here has already cut off service. they have wrapped up their gas tanks and cans with saran wrap, telling people there is no more service here, also hard to find businesses open here. many people are expecting a serious impact from the storm. we're told here, too, that police will continue their typical patrols in this area for the next day or so, but also pulling some officers back because of the impending storm has such a dangerous front to it. the wind speeds where picking up. the storm surge is also building. many people bracing, expecting the worse over the next day or so. back to you. >> we could be expecting more evacuation warnings. just an hour ago, rick scott, he spoke, and he had a dire warning for anyone thinking they can ride this storm out in florida. >> if you need to evacuate and
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you haven't, evacuate. this storm will kill you. time is running out. we don't have that much time left. the impacts of hurricane matthew could include heavy rain, matthew is expected to produce total rainfall amounts of 4 to 8 inches and even 12 on florida's east coast. beach erosion, tornadoes, hurricane force winds, storm surge, forecasts project 5 to 9 feet. this is 5 to 9 feet above where you're standing. stop and think about that. 5 to 9 feet. there's no reason not to leave. and think about it. the traffic is going to pick up. it already picked up some yesterday. i was looking at the traffic counts this morning. from yesterday. it picked up. it's going to pick up again today. if you wait, all you're going to do is get stuck in traffic. there's a greater chance you'll have problems with fuel.
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around 1.5 million people are under evacuation orders. 1.5 million floridians. we're really concerned about palm beach. the first big area that will be hit, and conditions will arrive within hours. we don't have much time left. if you aren't going to evacuate, these numbers should scare you. if you're on the east coast, we'll likely see winds from 100 to 150 miles per hour. think about that. 100 to 150 miles per hour. these catastrophic levels can completely wipe out well-built homes and destroy neighborhoods. if you're on the east coast, you will lose power. you're going to lose power. do not believe you're not going to lose power. you're going to lose power. millions will lose power. possibly for a long period of time. >> more than a warning. a massive message from governor of florida rick scott. 1.5 million floridians have
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already been evacuated. this is a serious storm heading their way. we'll continue to monitor hurricane matthew throughout the hour. and coming up, we're going to talk to the head of the federal emergency management agency, fema, as well as the national hurricane center and our reporters all along florida's coast. >> we have to take a quick turn to politics. a different storm, but also a serious one. donald trump hosting a last-minute town hall style meeting in new hampshire today. the addition comes just before the presidential debate featuring a similar format. donald getting ready. peter alexander joins me now. peter, this last-minute change, does this signify the pressure donald trump is feeling to do better in the second debate? >> it definitely signifies they want to perform well this weekend. this is something they have been talking about in recent weeks. it was finally put on the schedule late last night. it will take place about 7:00 opportunity in new hampshire, this town hall. it's invite only, so he's not necessarily going to get hard-hitting questions, but it
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will allow him to get a scrimmage in before what is in effect the big game on sunday. trump obviously has relied more heavily on the big rallies as opposed to more intimate town hall setting. he did one with fox news with a friendly audience. the commander in chief forum that matt lauer hosted as well. trump campaign folks tell me going forward, he's going to try to focus more on specifics, and as they describe it to me, the consumer benefit of trump's policies. they hope to put more meat on the bones when he's meeting face-to-face with voters on sunday night. >> and hillary clinton, important to note, is not campaigning today. she is down getting ready for the debate. thanks, peter. >> coming up, we're going to take you back to the storm. the head of fema joins us next. what resources are they moving into place ahead of hurricane matthew? will they be ready in time? we're tracking the storm, hours away at this point, and right now, you're looking at live pictures. those images, of course, are of
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hurricane matthew, a strong category-3 storm, is headed straight for florida's hooes coast. i want to go back to the bahamas which is currently taking the bruntd of the storm. tammy leitner is live in nassau. give us the latest. >> hey, stephanie. first of all, i want you know everybody is okay. our crew is secure. i want to show you what has happened in the few minutes since we were live out here. if you can take a look over there, there is an enormous tree that hacome down on three, four, five, seven cars over there. and in just these few minutes, another tree has come down in
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front of our hotel here on top of a couple more cars. we have been out here since 3:00 a.m., watching this storm. and the winds have just continued kicking up. we took a drive a little while ago. we saw trees down, we saw complete roads washed away. it just seems to be increasing. and you know, the people that live here on this island, they have done what they can to protect themselves. they have boarded up their homes. they have boarded up their businesses, with the hopes that that will save those structures. it's unclear at this point with the winds increasing and the rain increasing, if that really will do the job. stephanie. >> tammy, those people who live in those buildings, do you believe they're inside? >> some of the people have hunkered down in their homes. some of the people have left. they closed the airports yesterday. so anybody that is still on the island, they're stuck here. they're waiting this storm out just like we are. we also know there are some visitors, some tourists, tourists from canada and the united states, from california.
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we spoke with one couple from sacramento, they're on their honeymoon. they came to nassau for their honeymoon and they got stuck in this storm. now, essentially, they're on lockdown because anybody, whether they're a local or a visitor staying here in one of these hotels, they're not allowed to leave. they have locked the doors. it's for the safety of everybody. so the hotels are trying to protect the residents out here. as you can see, things are continuing to get worse, stephanie. >> all right, thanks, tammy leitner joining us from nassau, where hurricane matthew is currently hitting the hardest. this storm is expected to hit florida in the next 12 hours and move up to a category-4. stronger than what you're currently seeing in the bahamas. even stronger than the winds we just showed you. i want to bring in craig fugate, the administrator of fema and he joins me live on the phone. craig, how bad is this looking? >> well, it's about as bad as you can get, particularly because it's going to be right along the coast, if not onshore, and it's going to travel up along the east coast, up into
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potentially all the way up into georgia and south carolina. so rather than just coming in and hitting a smaller area, this has potential to do heavy damage from wherever it comes close to the florida coast until it goes back out in the atlantic. we're having to prepare for multiple states with significant impact on the coastal communities. >> given how bad you think it's going to be, what is your biggest concern? >> the biggest concern right now is people evacuating. that is the one step we know can significantly reduce the risk of loss of life. and today's the day. there is no more waiting. no more hoping it's not going to hit. you have to evacuate if you want to get to safety. the next steps will then be to respond to the areas of impact, and as most people are telling you, we would expect power outages not to be out for hours and days, but days to weeks. that's what people need to be p preparring for. >> days to weeks? how is the federal government ready to respond to this? >> well, we are set up to start
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bringing supplies in, supporting the states. they already have a lot of their resources including the national guard activated. when the power is out for that long, the thing we focus on is getting generators in to key locations, like waste water treatment centers and other facilities that don't have generators or have them fail as well as emergency fuel. for the general public, what we're working with the states on and utilities and everybody else is getting power back to grocery stores, gas stations, pharmacies to support the supply chains needed to support the recovery. >> given how much land this will likely hit, how many people are you prepared to assist some. >> right now, you know, we're looking at what governor scott is talking about up to a million plus in the evacuation zones. we're looking at millions of people. if you take florida all the way up to georgia, you're talking in excess of 3 to 4 million people that are in the path of impact. and the question we don't know is how far inland is it going to go?
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we're essentially saying if you're anywhere in florida in the georgia coast or south carolina coast, we're looking at those kind of numbers as we prepare, versess just looking at strictly people who live on the barrier islands. >> seeing you don't know how far inland it's going to go, where are you telling people to evacuate to? when you think about states like florida, there are a lot of senior citizens who live alone. >> this is one of the things that florida and other coastal states do and prepare for. and what we tell people, and this is when i was state director and what governor scott was telling people, you need to evacuate, but you only need to go 10s of miles. we evacuate from the storm surge, thought the wind. florida has a good shelter program. those shelters are retrofitted over the years to provide shelter. so again, what we need people to do is move away from the water risk of the storm surge, and those evacuations zones, go tens of miles, go inland and hunker down because the wind can reach far inland. what we're most concerned about, the life threat, is the storm
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surge. >> all right, craig, you have your work cut out for you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you. >> up next, we're going to take you there, to florida's coast where they're bracing for the worst. west palm beach is in the storm's cross hairs. some say it will be where the eye of the storm hits. the mayor of west palm joins me next.
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you're watching msnbc. we're tracking the latest on hurricane matthew. it is packing, get your head around this, 125-mile-per-hour winds as it moves across the bahamas and toward florida. that is a strong category-3, bordering on a category-4, already 1.5 million people are being evacuated from the storm's path. four states in total are under full or partial states of emergency as we speak. this hurricane could ride along the east coast for up to 48
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hours total. and please listen. we cannot stress enough just how dangerous this is. it is essentially a worst-case scenario. nbc meteorologist bill karins is tracking the storm. bill, you said ural. this could be the worst storm in florida's history. >> yeah, if you think of andrew was obviously the most intense that ever hit the state along with the one that hit the keys over 100 years ago. but in modern times, as far as damage potential goes, and the amount of people that are going to be affected, yeah, i think this will almost be guaranteed to meet those two criteria. will it end up at the end costing more than katrina did? katrina was over $100 billion. will it be that bad? odds are no, but it could make the top five. that wouldn't surprise me at all. we're getting more into the tracking mode. we're no longer showing you the satellite picture because our radar out of miami shoots the beam over the water and we can clearly pick up the eye of the storm. by the way, it is right over the top of nassau right now.
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and they are actually -- they didn't actually go through the eye, where our reporter is, where tammy is, we're in the eastern eyewall there, with the crew in nassau. so the worst destruction happening in nassau is right now. it will be happening over the next two hours and then the winds will slowly subside. you can see the general direction. it's not going to deviate much from the flow, the path going to the northwest like this, so if we take that up here, that's whewhy we're targeting west palm peach to port st. lucie. for our friends in the miami and ft. lauderdale area, you only have six more hours. once these bands get on top of you, this is tropical storm force winds. those bands are not that far off the coast. that's why they're telling you by about noon today, get all your preparations done in south florida because by the time we get to this evening, you're not going to want to be outside. other story, and we'll keep updating it, the more intense the storm, the higher the storm surge. typically the thing that kills
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the most people is the storm surge. here's the forecast, not too bad, 1 to 3 feet. we can deal with that. west palm bay to ft. pearce, 3 to 5 feet. that's borderline. 7 to 10 feet, stephanie, pretend you're standing on the beaches of florida like i'm sure you have done at some point in your life, and add another 4 to 5 feet on top of that. that's how high the water will be when we get to storm surge later this evening and tomorrow. that's where the destruction would occur. >> we're going to take you there right now to daytona beach and the weather channel's jen car mag no. you're there in daytona. set the stage. what's it like? >> very concerned about that storm surge, as bill was talking about. that's one of the concerns, the po power outages because of the strong winds, another concern. the beach behind me, it's going to be all the way up to the dunes. worst case scenario with the latest forecast, 5 to 7 feet of storm surge. then you bring the water up and you have another 12 to 18 foot
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waves on top of that. so the water into the first floor of everything right along the beach front is a big concern. and that's why there's a mandatory evacuation for beachfront areas and also low-lying areas, for mobile home parks. the other thing about the barrier islands along the central coast is that the bridges will shut down when the winds get to tropical storm force. that could happen by later tonight. the bridge here in daytona beach will shut down at 6:00. they need everybody to evacuate before then. you heard bill talking about south florida getting until about noon. we have a couple hours beyond that, but that's about it. people were preparing yesterday. i went out to the stores to see the shelves were cleared of water, of bread, of gatorade, interestingly, as well. gas stations had lines going for people trying to get gas. and although i didn't see it here, i know there are some stations in florida that have been running out of gas already. so today is it. today is the day to prepare, make sure you have everything
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you need to hunker down and to be without power, because a storm like this, we're talking about a hurricane that could be category-4. this area of coastline has not seen a direct hit of a category-4 or a category-5. so first of all, this is uncharted territory. we have had storms in florida, no doubt, we have had hurricanes. we know what can happen with even a category-3. you go back to the 2004 season to know when we had that crisscross of charlie and gene and francis to know that when you have power outages that happen after a storm, it's not just for hours or days. it could be for weeks. so you need to make sure people are ready to deal with that situation. >> all right, stay safe. head inside. i'm going to stay on the beach and take you to -- actually, we're not going to stay on the beach. when we return, we're going to go to west palm and speak to the mayor as well as go up the coast to juneau beach giving you an update on hurricane matthew, the storm we're preparing to make its way up the east coast of florida, and it could potentially be a category four.
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hurricane matthew heading straight for florida. hitting tonight as a category-4. west palm beach could potentially bill hit very hard. i'm joined by mayor jerry moyo of west palm beach on the phone. mayor, talk us through clearly you're preparing. are you ready? >> yes, we are ready. we're preparing. i am here at our emergency operational center. we have firefighters here. we have police officers here. we have a logistics team. we have a financial team. everybody is getting ready and working, getting prepared for matthew. >> have the residents of west palm left down? >> some have. we have a mandatory evacuation in some areas. i hope the people in those areas have left their homes.
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and we have seen some people leaving as well. >> are you concerned that people in your area, because you may be hit the worst, are not taking the warnings, the mandatory evacuation seriously enough? one, this thing hits, it will be very hard to help them. >> i was at the beginning concerned, but now i have seen that more and more people are taking this seriously. we're seeing more houses with shutters up. our whole downtown area is shuttered up and closed down. and hopefully people are evacuating. because once the storm gets going, we're not going to be able to send out emergency vehicles. so you need to evacuate if you're in an evacuation zone. >> you have a lot of senior citizens, many of whom live alone in the palm beach area. where are they going? do they have a place? >> we have shelters open. we have about ten shelters in the county open. one shelter is in west palm beach. if people need help, they need to call our 822-2222 number.
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561-822-2222. we have call handlers on duty now. so you will get to speak to an actual person, and we're there to help you. >> and for you, personally, you are in a mandatory evacuation. while you're the mayor of the town, you need to protect yourself. what are you doing? >> i'm here at the eoc. this is a category 5 building. we will be safe. my husband is home with the dog and our house, but we're all shuttered up. he'll be fine. >> i hope he will. all right, please stay safe. we're sending you and your community the best. >> thank you very much. all right, the national hurricane center is ground zero for information on this monster hurricane heading for florida's coast. joining me now is the director of the national hurricane center, rick knabb. where is the storm headed? >> it's lashing the bahamas with not just the hurricane force winds, but it's hushing the
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ocean around and there's undoubtedly a lot of storm surge impacting the islands. moving through the northwestern bahamas and you can see the outer band starting to arrive on the outer coast of florida. those will get more frequent, more potent, and winds of stropical storm force will arrive on the coast of southeast florida. that will be the end of the safe time to be preparing for the brunt of the storm that will come later tonight. so people need to be evacuating if they're hold to evacuate from storm surge prone areas on the coast or mobile homes. they need to do that now and get out now. the roads are still opened, bridges are still open. get ow now. >> nobody knows hurricanes better thanio. how worried are you? >> extremely concerned. this is a scary sunar for a lot of people. it's not just going to be coastal. there will be inland impacts from wind and inland flooding from heavy rain. it's not just going to be a wind event. in addition to the flooding from
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rainfall, we have a lot of areas vulnerable to storm surge. that's why so many people are told to evacuate. 9 out of 10 people who die in landfalling tropical cyclones in the united states die from water. i mean, we ought to be afraid of the wind here, obviously, but water can kill, whether it's inland flooding, storm surge at the coast or at the beach and on boats. so just have to find a safe place to be during the storm before those weather conditions get really bad starting later this afternoon. >> do local residents understand this? we speak to people and they say, well, we have storm shutters up and we're inside and have supplies. do they understand the magnitude that that's just not enough? >> well, what you need to do to stay safe depends on where you live. if you're told to evacuate from a coastal location that is vulnerable to storm surge, you need to get out because that's a deadly hazard. and if you live in a mobile home and your authorities are telling you to leave that location, go to a safer structure, even if you live inland, that's for the wind hazard. you need to leave from that
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location now. and also, if you're in some place in the storm and the power goes out, think about now how to stay safe. don't run a generator indoors. that produces carbon monoxide. don't light a bunch of candles and leave them and start a fire. there's so many things you need to do. think about and do now to stay safe during the storm. it's not just at the coast. it's inland as well. >> rick, for those who do stay inside their homes. where's the best place to be? >> well, you want to be away from windows during the strong tropical storm or hurricane force winds, depending on what you experience. i've got my family in a safe place. they're not going outside anymore today. i put shutters on my home. i live inland from ft. lauderdale. people need to be in a safe place. don't ride out the storm in a location where they told you to evacuate due to storm surge. don't go upward in a high rise if you're in a storm surge area told to evacuate. get out of there completely because if you go up 20, 25
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stories, the winds get stronger. you get another category higher on the wind scale. we're thinking category 4 could come ashore. so this is a a really, really dangerous situation for a lot of people, florida up through georgia and south carolina. >> hurricane katrina, hurricane andrew, were they category 4? >> andrew was category 5 when it came ashore in south florida, 1992. category 3, katrina was a large hurricane when it came ashore on the north gulf coast. but every hurricane is different. has its own personality. its own collection of hazards. and people in these warned areas, and not just at the coast but inland as well, could experience water, wind, or both, that are worse than they have ever experienced. especially people new to the hurricane problem. keep your eye on this storm and focus on what you need to do to stay safe. >> rick, thank you so, so much for the advice, for your work. rick knabb joining us. thanks. >> coming up, hurricane matthew continuing to strengthen as it
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heads toward the state of florida. the mayor of vero beach will be joining me after the break, and right now, you're looking at videos of nassau. that's in the bahamas, getting lashed this morning, since 3:00 a.m., these winds continue to whip. you can see a tree right there swaying, within the last 30 minutes, we saw at least two major trees just in that area, in that shot, go down, knocking down cars, landing on buildings. this is in nassau, the eye of the storm right now. and it's moving up to florida. we're going to be right back. we have to take a quick break. when we return, we'll stick with matthew, with the mayor of vero beach.
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begun preparing for the worst. another city watching the storm closely is vero beach. the mayor joins me on the phone. walk us through, what are you telling your residents? >> well, we're telling our residents to take this storm very seriously. a lot of us remember the storms of the past, and really impress upon people they got the opportunity to get to higher ground and to safer areas, to do so and do so now. >> right now, what's your biggest fear? ? the biggest fear is a storm surge that may come up and damage an awful lot of homes and prevent emergency services to getting out to the people that have decided to ride this storm out. what's going to happen is this is going to be a strong storm and it's going to put us into primitive conditions for living through the storm. and we have a lot of elderly people that may need attention, and we need to find a way to get those people to safer ground. >> are you concerned that people will simply stay? >> i'm extremely concerned about
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that. i have actually talked to a number of people in my neighborhoods and convinced them to leave. you know, the problem is i think we have some new residents that don't remember the strekt of the previous storms. you know, with the possibility of maybe an 11-foot surge and 120-mile-per-hour winds, this is something you don't play around with. you have to take it seriously and move out. >> if you get a surge that big with those kind of winds, what could it do to vero beach? what is your community like? >> well, our community is right along the ocean, and we also have the indian river lagoon here. most of the houses are within six feet of the lagoon. should we have something close to 10 or 11 feet, we're going to have a lot of residences that are going to be full of water. and with downed power lines. that's just not a good combination. >> what percentage of people in vero beach are just there during winter? do you have a lot of people who aren't there at all right now?
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>> we do. this is the beginning of our season when people will start coming down. but you know, we have an awful lot of locals here that are preparing for the storm, and we have a lot of people preparing a lot of vacant homes. but we're glad in some respects that the full population is not here just yet. >> all right, mayor kremer, please stay safe. we're wishing your community the best. >> we're going to take you back to nassau. of course, down in the bahamas, where it's currently the eye of the storm. our own tama leitner is there in a high rise. we spoke to her just a few minutes ago, where the winds were whipping. they have been whipping basically all night long, and they're not letting up. i can see tammy there now. tammy, give us an update. >> hey, stephanie. yeah, we're somewhat protected on the balcony of our hotel, but you can only imagine how bad things are down on the street. let's give you another live look down there. stephanie, the winds are whipping 100-plus miles an hour.
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you can see the trees bending. air conditioners have flown off the roofs across the street from us. trees have gone down on cars in front of our on the cars on the hotel. if you pan over there, the tree went down last time. five cars underneath it. hopefully nobody inside. now, most of the residents here, they have either evacuated or hunkered down in their homes or really windy as you can see out here, stephanie, or they have taken shelter in a hotel or actual shelters, there's about 20 of them set up here on the island. stephanie? >> the wind is massive. do you know how fast it is? >> reporter: last time we checked, it was close to 110 miles an hour. but it could be clocking in at much more than that. i mean, the hotel that we're staying at, the roof tiles, there goes another one. did you see that?
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the roof tiles are flying off the roof here. and i mean, they're dangerous. they're like projectiles going through the roof below us and actually puncturing it. so i mean, that just gives you an idea of the strength of the wind out here. >> where exactly are you? have you been able to see the beaches, the water? >> reporter: we're in nassau right now and yes, we did earlier go to the beach to the water. but it wasn't this bad. it would be much too dangerous to go out there right now. you can't walk. you can't drive. nothing like that. but on the other side of our hotel is the ocean and i can tell you, the waves are kicking up there. they're talking about, let me hold on to you here so you don't go over, they're talking about 15 foot surges and, you know, the bahamas, the island here is very, very flat. a 15 foot surge, if that happens would cover most of the houses
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and destroy most of the houses on the island if what they're predicting happens. stephanie? >> tammy, you, dwayne, head inside. we'll take a quick break. when we return, new live video inside the storm. we'll be showing you what exactly it is like in nassau now as we prepare in the state of florida for hurricane matthew to make its way up north. we're going to take a break. you're watching msnbc. stay with us.
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all eyes right now are on hurricane matthew. while most of the focus has been on florida, the entire southeast u.s. is bracing for impact. south carolina's governor ordered evacuations from the cities of charleston and buford, the entire state under a state of emergency. thus far, 1800 national guard members have been activated to help with evacuations as well as clean-up. in addition, nearly 4,000 police and state troopers are helping with those evacuations.
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governor nikki haley wants everyone 100 miles inland from the coast at least. >> as of 6:00 a.m. this morning, 175,000 people have evacuated. that's not enough. we need to have more people evacuating and this is the part that i want you to think about. if you are still sitting at home, not evacuated, gas stations are getting ready to close. your pharmacies are getting ready to close. everything is going to leave. >> that's governor nikki haley urging residents to evacuate now. coming up, we've got the latest as this strengthening hurricane matthew is setting its sights on florida. we've got full team coverage as the evacuations continue as well as what we can expect when it hits them. now that fedex has helped us simplify our e-commerce, we could focus on bigger issues, like our psive aggressive environment. we're not passive aggressive. hey, hey, hey, there are no bad suggestions here... no matter how lame they are.
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with another hour of breaking news on hurricane matthew which is gaining muscle and on a life-threatening collision course with florida's east coast. at this moment, the powerful category 4 hurricane is battering the bahamas with winds up to 125 miles an hour. you can see those images now that have been at least 25 deaths in the caribbean linked to matthew. after the bahamas, florida, georgia, north and south carolina will be in the cross hairs. some 11 million people under hurricane warnings. states of emergency have been declared in those states, florida, georgia, and the carolinas. and right now, in florida, the governor has called upon an additional 1,000 members of the national guard for a total of 2500 guards men to help with evacuations. >> evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. if you need to evacuate and you haven't, evacuate. this storm will kill


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