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that's all for this hour, but, of course, keep it right here on msnbc. we'll have continuing coverage of hurricane matthew literally all night long and into the early hours of the morning. ari melber picks up our coverage right now. good evening to you. i'm ari melber. 6:00 p.m. here on the east coast of the united states, where the most catastrophic hurricane since hurricane katrina is, we expect, hours away from making potential landfall in florida. it is the storm surge from category 4 matthew has forecasters at the national hurricane center so concerned this evening. 11 million people in florida under a hurricane warning tonight, 1.5 million under evacuation orders. the governor simply telling them to get out. he's not pulling any punches, warning, quote, this storm will
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kill you. >> evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. this is game day. this is when we're going -- this is going to hit. our number one priority, keep everybody safe. >> airports are closed from miami and right up the entire coast there. so far today, more than 1,000 flights already canceled. we are bracing, obviously, for what could be a long and dangerous night. our team here at cnbc has it covered. >> the entire southeastern u.s. is bracing for impact. >> we've been out here for the last seven hours, and every hour, we've seen this storm get worse. >> we're talking about water right here with waves o s on to me, moving on to the shoreline. >> the roof peeled off, like you would peel back a tin can. >> so many different threats we have with this storm. >> this is one of the most vulnerable communities. >> once this storm hits, people aren't going to be able to come in and save you. >> you don't need a landfall for significant impact. >> nbc's ron mott is in daytona beach, which could be, of
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course, an historic site for this surge. ron? >> you know, the surge is always the number one concern in a lot of these hurricanes, because it's the water a lot of times that causes the most loss of life as opposed to the wind. we're expecting a one-two combination, once this storm gets on top of us, which could be in as little as three hours or so. we've been feeling a few to have the outermost bans coming through. right now we're in the clear, but within the hour, we're expecting the wind and rain to pick up. one of the things officials don't like to see is this scene right here. there's a gentleman, apparently a local here, who brought a drink out with him and he's going to sit out and enjoy the breeze until he can't enjoy it any longer. all along this coastline, officials have been going up and down with bullhorns telling people that the beach is officially closed and they should head back into shelter. >> we can tell you a lot of shelters are opened and the one we visited today is at capacity. so at some point this afternoon, the people showing up there were
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turned away and redirected elsewhere. so those last-minute scrtraggle are scrambling to find a shelter that has space for them. there are a lot of hotels and condominium towers along this stretch of daytona beach. the hotels have evacuated guests. they are allowing the media and first responders to stay in and work tonight. these buildings should all hold up pretty well. after hurricane andrew in 1992, a lot of buildings in florida were retrofitted, especially with the glass, to be able to withstand the winds. these winds that we anticipate getting around the daytona tonight unprecedented. we're talking 130, 40, 50 the miles per hour. and ait's sustained. we're talking 24 to 36 hours or better with this hurricane. it is a real serious deal. it's going to be here a while. and that's why officials have told people to get out. we saw very little in the way of vehicular traffic today.
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which i'm taking as a good sign that people actually heeded the warnings and got out yesterday. and of course, we saw people lining up at the shelters today. so that's a good sign. but we do hope that we won't see as many of these curiosity seekers as we go forward into the evening. ari? >> all right, ron. thank you. and stay safe. let's turn right now to msnbc meteorologist bill karins. >> good evening. >> you've been tracking this. you put out a note to our newsroom that's been quoted widely, talking about just how ominous this looks from your indicators. explain. >> yeah, this storm is going to be historic for the storm surge. that i am certain of. the winds, major, possibly historic, depending if the core moves on the coast or not. the rainfall from this will probably be somewhere in the moderate category, as far as historical impacts. the storm surge is the thing that may set this off the charts and the storm surge is usually the thing that kills the most people and does the most damage, and we could be looking at that northwards up towards
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jacksonville into south carolina. if you weren't with us at the 5:00 update, here's some of the new information we have in. we're still at 140 miles per hour. the storm is running out of time to try to get to a cat 5. so we're not completely taking that off the table, but it's looking less likely. we're still looking at a solid category 4. moving to the northwest 14. this was the 5:00 a.m. updated path from the hurricane center. and every little wiggle or wobble affects someone greatly. we have so many people with interest that evacuated family, loved ones, grandparents down here on the coastline. the forecast has improved for the ft. lauderdale area and shifted a little bit to the north. doesn't mean you won't get power outages, west palm beach area, you'll enjoy the bad storm surge. great news for you. port st. lucie northwards, those are the area most at risk of the storm surge and still the possibility of a direct landfall. and you'll notice, we're still a gat 4 all the night tonight into tomorrow. it should go down possibly to a cat 3 near daytona beach. but by then, the water is
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already on shore. i mentioned, every little tweak here makes a big difference. i want you to watch the forecast here. this is the actual eye of the storm on the radar. and over the last two or three hours, it took just the slightest little wobble. you see it right there. that line kind of went a little northeast. now it's kind of corrected itself. but every little wobble to the east or to the north makes it make landfall a little further up the coast, as it approaches. that's why we're not thinking any longer a direct landfall in west palm beach is likely. you may still get in that western eye wall, but maybe not direct landfall. and these bands here, these are the bands that will start knocking out power. only 50 to 60 miles off the coast. we'll bring those onshore a couple of hours from now. the thing i was saying, the biggest impact, the thing i'm most fearful about is the storm surge. these are the maps we'll be watching. computer simulations throughout the day. earlier, west palm beach had more storm surge. now you're in the blue, that's 1 foot or less, because the wind's going to be on the backside.
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you won't get the piling up on the coast. as we shift northwards, just north of the eye is where the water will be the worse. ft. pierce, a little bit of the orange, a little bit of yellow. that's sebastian inland area, jupiter, heading the to the palm bay area. you're about 3 to about 5, some areas getting up to 7. we've knocked it down, even for the space coast with that further north landfall, just to the north of there, this is still what we think the greatest potential is for significant storm surge. i'm happy to see when i was here a few hours ago, we had a little pink on this map with the possibility of a foot, we've knocked it down a little. this is still 10-feet storm surge. that will still do incredible damage. now we're pinpointing the from just about the daytona beach area, up through flagler county, st. augustine, jacksonville beach, ferdinand beach, into the brunswick, georgia, area and savannah. you kind of get the picture, every little wiggle. we haven't forgotten about our
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friends from jacksonville, outer banks, you look totally safe, no problem at all. we'll leave you with these pictures here, ari. the computer, we have up the wind gusts there. the hurricane-force winds, with any hurricane, the strongest winds are on the northeast quadrant of the storm. if we get the past right along the coast, some of the highest winds may never actually make it on land. that's why i'm not guaranteed that this will be historic wind damage. it still will be 100-mile-per-hour gusts on the coast, still enough to knock out windows and high-rises, roof damage, shingle damage and stuff like that, but we may not have houses blown down or walls collapsing. >> how crucial is it to damage estimates whether or not it makes land? >> with the winds, significant. but what you notice and what you see is, with winds, you get a roof knocked off, trees down, you get a lot of damage like that. but when we talk about storm surge and talk about 10 feet, possibly, of water, the barrier islands, if you've been out there in florida, florida has no
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elevation. there will be complete barrier islands where the wind will come in on the beaches we're used to, go all the way over into the inlet on the other side and rush through whatever's on the lower levels. if it's not evaluated, it's businesses, it's stores, that's where the billions dollars of losses will come in. >> thank you, bill, appreciate it. i want to go right now to blake mccoy, who is live in ft. lauderdale. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, ari, that northeastern wobble that bill karins was talking about has been very good news for folks here in fllt. that's because it means the hurricane has stayed about 100 miles offshore, the eye of the hurricane. which means that we have been feeling the effects from the outer bands of the hurricane here, but it hasn't been as bad as people were expecting. so, as far as wind gusts, we've been seeing about 25-mile-an-hour wind gusts right now. nothing too severe. still, you can see behind me that all the businesses here in ft. lauderdale are closed in preparation for this storm. they will stay closed throughout the night. and they've actually closed the
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roads down here, as of 3:00 p.m. you'll still see a few cars driving out and about. that's because that closure is not being enforced. they're not going to give people tickets. but authorities have been telling people, hey, stay off the roads, let this pass. but i can tell you that right now, there is definitely a sense here in ft. lauderdale that we may have dodged a bullet with this storm, and as bill was saying, it's further north of here that will see the greatest impact. >> bill mccoy, thank you. now we turn to two mayors whose cities are in the path of this storm. susan haney and mayor cramer of vero beach. mayor cramer, what are you doing to prepare? >> well, we have evacuated the barrier islanded for about 15 miles inland and we're feeling a little safer this distance away from the barrier island, but we recently went on the barrier island and things are starting to deteriorate very fast. >> and what does it look like out and about? are people mostly off the
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streets at this point? >> i think so. i think a lot of people have heeded a lot of the warnings. i know a lot of people who are on the barrier islands have decided to stay there. we've got a little small opportunity for them to still hit the shelters. we would hope that they would do that. the winds are starting to pick up along the ocean and it's looking like it's going to get bad here pretty soon. >> what about you, mayor haney? >> well, we're here at the emergency operations center. we were prepared, but we feel like we have dodged a bullet, when you have a category 4 hurricane 100 miles off your sko coast, it certainly makes you get prepared. our citizens took it very seriously and we have all systems go, but it looks like this -- we will do very well with this storm. >> and what are you seeing out on the streets? if you're less concerned, does that mean there's less people out and about perhaps?
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>>, only our first responders are out on the roads. all of our citizens seem to be sheltered in place. the one shelter that was opened up in western boca raton is full and our hospital is -- the emergency room is open, but the hospital itself is closed to visitors. so everyone here took this very, very seriously and they have sheltered in place and they're riding out the storm. >> and mayor haynie, what do you think was key to getting people to get the message this time around? >> well, we really took it seriously as a community and pushed out a lot of information on social media and really impressed upon our residents how important it was to be prepared and how severe this storm could have been, if not for that minor wobble, we really could have had a really, really, really bad disaster. >> all right, mayor haynie and mayor kramer, thank you for updating us and we wish your residents well through this evening. we can see the storm's power in some of the places and countries
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it has already hit. take a look, for example. the haitian embassy in the u.s. has 108 people now confirmed killed by this storm in haiti. the u.n. saying thousands more displaced and in need of urgent assistance. matthew hit the bahamas as well this morning, no casualties reported there, thankfully. the power grid shut down in advance of the storm. guests at the atlantis resort had to sleep on the floor in the ballroom there for safety. straight ahead, we have a lot more on the preparations to deal with this dangerous storm, including getting a view from nasa, kennedy space center, that is now in its path there. and the latest on these critical evacuations and the desperate race for people trying to get completely out of the storm's way and potential path of destruction. also, we'll look at the massive hurricane and how it may be playing out in the presidential race. we're tracking the path of the storm and when it will make landfall in florida, straight ahead. this group, many of us have dealt with storms in the past, we've dealt with charlie,
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welcome back to our special coverage of hurricane matthew, barreling towards the florida coast right now. today, one local sheriff had a dire warning for his residents. >> people do not seem to get it and are not leaving. and i have already checked. i'm not saying this to be theatrical, you all know me, i don't lean towards bravado, but i talked to my detective captain earlier today and i asked him, do you have body bags? are you prepared for mass casualties? because if people do not leave and we get 140-mile-an-hour wind gusts in some of our mobile home places, we are going to have fatalities. >> a dire warning, indeed. we go to nbc's craig melvin, who is driving in melbourne, florida. craig, what are you seeing with the conditions right now? >> reporter: this is highway 192, ari. this is fifth avenue here in melbourne. we're headed toward the beach,
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in front of us. and what you see on the sides here on fifth avenue are pretty much what i saw from the airport in orlando. we're about an hour south of orlando, a virtual ghost town. you can see some debris already tossed about here on the main drag. businesses boarded up, gas stations shut down. a number of businesses between here and orlando, just a handful of those businesses were open. i talked to a spokesman from the police department a short time ago. he said that there was -- there's not a curfew in place, there's not a mandatory evacuation, but they have highly, highly encouraged -- strongly encouraged folks to get the heck out of town. and it seems as if a lot of people have. this is a town of about 75,000. a lot of them seem to have gone to higher ground. they are shutting off the water in this part of the community. this is the beach part of the community. they're shutting off the water right about now, we're told, to try to protect the infrastructure. that's something that's fairly common when storms like this
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happen. they are expecting that this will be the area -- this was the case, roughly 30 to 45 minutes ago. this will be one of the areas that's hardest hit. 55 to 60-mile-per-hour wind gusts tonight. tomorrow, perhaps, 120, 130-mile-per-hour wind gusts. disney world, disney world shut down today for the fourth time -- excuse me, for the fifth time in its history, just a sign of how big of a deal this storm has become. i want to give you a vantage point, we're pulling up here to the beach. and again, we've been out for a few hours now. and this is a scene that, fortunately, we haven't seen a lot of. folks -- these are storm voyeurs, as i call them, folks that just can't help themselves. they come out and want to see the storm surge. but we've seen the waves pick up, the winds pick up, fairly considerably. the rain, however, has been off
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and on. there have been periods like we're seeing right now where there's no rain at all and 10, 15 minutes later, buckets of rain coming down, strong, coming down hard for, you know, 5 or 10 minutes. but this is where they're expecting some time in the next 4 to 5 hours, things to really pick up, if you will, ari. >> craig, how long can you stay on the road? when will you take shelter? >> we're going to be smart. we're not going to be those folks that make youtube. but right now, there's going -- you can see some other folks on the road as well, emergency vehicles, obviously, a lot of law enforcement vehicles, a number of media vehicles, as well. right now, it's fine. we are expecting that probably 11:00 tonight, hopefully, we'll probably pack it up, call it a night. it's also very hard to find a hotel room in these parts, as you might imagine. all those folks who have
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evacuated, all of those folk who is have been smart, a lot of them getting hotel rooms, some of them moving to higher ground, as well. but, again, i think we heard bill mention this a short time ago, the primary concern here, rain, flooding. we just saw the ocean, i just showed you the ocean there. the thinking being that when those storm surges start, you're going to get, you know, 10 inches, a foot of water, and this is a low-lying area. this is a fairly flat area, as we look to the left again, look to the right, you can see more of these businesses boarded up. that's the concern here. a lot of these businesses that you're seeing right now, 12 hours from now, they will be flooded. >> right, right. ominous. craig melvin, thank you, in melbourne, florida. craig melvin and his production team, stay safe today. president obama called the governors of florida, georgia, and north and south carolina. he also declared a state of
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emergency for florida, specifically, already this afternoon, as you can imagine, that authorizes, formally, the federal aid and response to the expected storm, whenever it does hit. the president's action comes a day after governor rick scott basically made that request. today he asked for additional support from washington. >> yesterday, i asked the president for additional fuel, water, and tarps, which fema approved today. this afternoon, i'm also asking the president for additional generators and pumps to help with power outages and flooding once this storm hits. >> in addition, governor scott activating 1,000 members of the florida national guard to deal with evacuations. now, that would bring the total, by our count, up to 2,500 active members. joining me now by phone, florida congressman ted deutch, represents florida's 21st congressional district, and that does include parts of palm beach as well as broward counties. first of all, congressman, what's on your mind tonight as we look at all of this?
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>> the safety of my constituents and meveryone here in florida. this is a hurricane unlike anything we've seen in more than a decade. it's been more than a decade since any hurricane has hit florida. and there are millions of floridians here who are new, who weren't here for hurricane wilma. we worry about the wind, 140 miles an hour now, and when this hits, it could go right up the coast as a category 3. there are more than 10 million people up along the i-95 corridor. and we worry about the wind, but we worry about that storm surge, which you were just talking about. three feet of storm surge is life threatening, and there are some parts of the state where they're expecting as high as 10 or 11 feet of storm surge. that's a huge concern going forward. >> when did you first grasp the magnitude of how big this could get? >> well, here in florida, we watch hurricanes develop over time. and it was clear as moved
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through the caribbean that this is a rae powerfreally powerful . and i think because we saw the impact it was having over that region, the tragic loss of life, over 100 lives lost in haiti, for example, we knew we had to take this seriously. i was at a shelter earlier today, over 150 people there, peep who followed the admonit n admonitions of local officials who told them to get out of their homes and move to shelters. i think that's a really important thing that people have really followed through on. we know it's serious, and now, what happens for those of us who live here is it's time to hunker down, to stay safe, and then to realize that going forward, after the hurricane, when there is damage, there are also threats and we have to be really careful to avoid those as well. >> and where will you be tonight, congressman? >> well, tonight, i'm home with my family. tomorrow, hopefully, the storm
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will make its way through and i'll have an opportunity to go out and see what kind of damage there may be in our area. we've also been coordinating and speaking with my colleagues from the house, with local and state officials. there's real teamwork here. i think the president's decision today to declare the state of emergency to allow fema to work directly with the state is going to really permit an immediate response after the hurricane moves through. and we're all going to be in this together. that's the way we are down here, especially after hurricanes. that's what we have to do. >> congressman ted deutch, thank you very much for joining us. i know it is a busy day down there. and coming up, we will take you, our viewers, to the national hurricane center. also, the 2016 candidates offering their words of support to people all across the southeast. donald trump preparing for a town hall and that's due to start just minutes from now. we'll have that all for you, just after the break.
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just put on a breathe right strip. it itantly opens your nose thanshut your mouth and say goodnight mohbreathers. breathe right. hurricane matthew is already having some impact on the presidential race, both candidates telling residents to be cautious, weighing in in their own weighs. donald trump tweeted, praying for everyone in florida, hoping the hurricane dissipates, but in any event, please be careful. hillary clinton also through social media wrote, quo, hurricane matthew is a major storm. i urge everyone to follow emergency instructions and evacuate if you're told to. stay safe, florida. let's go to new hampshire where donald trump is about to hold a town hall event as part of his regularly scheduled activities. nbc's kelly o'donnell is there. what are you seeing and is this something that is on people's minds there, from what you can tell, or is it so far, business as usual? >> well, i would say from
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talking to some of the people who are outside, waiting to get in, they're clearly aware, some have family or know peel in top the area. so there is awareness of the concern, but really right now tonight, they are excited to see donald trump in person, with the chance to ask some questions. this is a very tightly packed room, invitation only. when i spoke to people who were waiting outside, they said they contacted the local republican party or they might have known a local office holder to get tickets to be part of this. and you did point out it's part of his regularly scheduled campaign activities, but it's extra special in this regard. this is debate prep in plain view. an opportunity for donald trump to prepare for sunday's format, the town hall format, something that he has done occasionally, but not anywhere near as often as many candidates do. and tonight he'll be joined by governor chris christie, who's a top adviser, who did well over 100 town hall meetings when he was a candidate for president
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and does them in new jersey. he's sort of the town hall coach in that respect. did it in exactly this space, when he did his very first town hall after he got in the race. that's part of why it's here, part of why it's now. and when we talk to peel in the audience, they are, mostly republicans, those that i met. so it is a favorable terrain. this particular area is described to me as pretty republican. so it's a chance for trump to kind of work out some of the logistics, if you will, of interacting with real voters, and it will be moderated by a conservative, sort of a fi firebra firebrand, out of boston. ari? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you very much. sounds like an interesting event. msnbc's kasie hunt covers hillary clinton and is here with us. we'll get to clinton, but i want to pick up on the trump point. you have been known to talk about both candidates on occasion.
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>> on occasion. >> he is someone who has a natural performance ability and pea say that when he's in a packed room, sometimes you get a more vigorous trump, if he can interact with the audience. but he doesn't always key off the audience. it's much more one way. so the fact that the second debate, which some are billing sort of do or die for him after the first is a group community event is an extra challenge, no? >> i do think it is. and i remember, i did a very early town hall with donald trump in new hampshire. this was in 2015 he had either first announced or it was right before. and it was still a big room. and the dynamics were so different when he did kind of take a question, he went straight back into his typical stump speech. it often -- you know, by the end of his answer, it was back to feeling like a rally. i'm very interested to see how he navigates this, especially in the kind of smaller setting, smaller room. obviously, he's done a lot of interviews in this setting. you remember, we have -- >> i have seen him do television
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interviews, yeah. >> well, when we did the town halls, for the most part in a primary season where he's sitting opposite one moderator, you take questions from the audience, we've seen him in that kind of format before, but usually it's been with his family or with a moderator he knew, somebody he could interact with. so i think that the format is potentially a challenge for him. i think clinton's campaign feels like it is as well. >> right. the hillary clinton piece is so beautifully displayed on the nbc entertainment side, kate mckinnon's impression in "snl," when she did the clinton trying to be unscripted while scripted, and saying, you know, this makes me think of, oh, gosh, off the top of my head, i would call it trumped up trickle down -- >> just off the top of her head. >> that can read as even more contrived when you're trying to talk to a real person and you insert your little talking point. and that's something where, on the one hand, i've heard her aides say, she's much better in small audiences. but this isn't a small audience. this is a small audience plus 70 million people. >> right. so that's the kind of balance
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out of to strike. you have to worry about what's going on in the room and also recognizing that the audience is much bigger. i think they have put hillary clinton over the course of the campaign into a lot of settings that are like this. especially early on. she spent a lot of time doing roundtables. i also think we have seen some of her best moments in these kinds of settings. she talked, for example, one time, about her faith in a way that i think struck people as very thang aauthentic and it wa small setting like this. i think it was anderson cooper that did the interview, i would have to go back and double check. but i think her campaign believes if she can get into the right frame of mind, this is a format that can work very well for her. one thing i think can be interesting is the physical dynamics of it. you remember when george w. bush and al gore debates and they were kind of in each other's space, obviously, you have a woman and a man, i think that will be interesting. >> and finally, as you're speaking, we have the maps behind you. we are literally thinking of
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this election in the path of a storm that may be a costly and dramatic event, and many people remember hurricane sandy in 2012, which triggered all sorts of debates about the role of the federal government, about fema, all of that between mitt romney and barack obama, also, the christie hug. a lot of politics came out of what was a tragedy. i wonder here, it's early, and their response is do you have any view of how the candidates deal with this storm when they have such that big night on sunday night? >> first of all, we don't want to get too far into this without recognizing that we don't yet know who's going to be impacted by this. and we want to make sure we're focused primarily there. but i think that also underscores the challenge for these candidates here. and i think part of the reason why the aftermath of sandy became a political story was because it was all about the president,, you know -- >> being leade >> taking the opportunity to be leader of the federal government. >> and that's why -- chris christie has talked very emotionally on the trail about what it was like to be able to get the president on the phone
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and say, hey, you know, my oil trucks, they're not here. and having the president respond to that. so i think that this very much presents a very real, tangible leadership challenge for both of these candidates. and i think we're going to see that in the coming days. >> kasie hunt, msnbc, thank for joining. >> nice so see you, ari. coming up, checking in at those florida airports where the last flight did just take off from miami. when i was a little kid, i made a deal with myself that i would never grow up. we met when we were very young... i was 17, he was 18. we started doing animation. the book of life. with the surface book, you can do all this stuff. you can actually draw on the screen. so crisp. i love it. it's almost like this super powerful computer and a tablet had the perfect baby. it's a typewriter for writing scripts... it's a sketchbook for sketches... ...it's a canvas for painting... you can't do that on a mac.
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if we're looking at hurricane force winds much more powerful than what the forecast is calling for right now, then we make a decision if it's not safe to operate, that's when we pull the trigger to close the airport. >> everyone preparing for hurricane matthew. we can show you a photo here. this is the last american airlines flight that's leaving out of miami tonight. that's brand-new. the airline, meanwhile, has said they're canceling over 600
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flights already. more, certainly, a possibility. no surprise there. now, nbc's miguel almaguer has been in palm beach tracking this storm and the reactions for us. we've seen a lot of weather on your monitor as we've been watching you over the last couple of minutes. miguel, what are you seeing? >> the weather has taken a turn over the last hour. we got here earlier this morning and we had some light wind. now we're having powerful, powerful gusts. strong enough to easily push you off your feet. we're also seeing buckets of rain, squalls moving over with this thunderous rain, at times. we know the storm is still off the coast, but we're certainly beginning to feel its outer bands. we're just across the street from the ocean, where the waves here are certainly starting to pick up. we expect the storm surge in some areas to be 11 feet high. the palm trees, you may be able to see behind me, are swaying in the wind. there are coconuts on those trees, certainly very dangerous objects that could be flying across this area. police have issued a mandatory evacuation for this area. they have told us we are okay to
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stay here, that we're safe to be here for a couple of hours, but later on tonight when this storm intensifies, they are asking us to leave this area. what they say is certain, windows will likely explode in high-rise buildings across this area. debris will fly through the area. we've already seen that here. it's going to be a very precarious situation here as the night unfold. we'll be hunkered down in a nearby hotel, as should everyone in area. police say everyone in this region should be inside and seeking shelter later on tonight. back to you. >> miguel, that's obviously ominous. i wonder, in just looking behind you, if you could walk us through what you're seeing and if your camera could move at all, show us around a little bit. >> yeah, let me see if i can get my photographer, abraham, to come off of his sticks for just a second here. excuse the jerk here, guys, it will take us just a second to release our cameras. this is ocean boulevard. it's the main street here, and this is where many of the
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tourists have call in this area, they come to the beach to sight see, it is a very beautiful, beautiful area, but tonight, abraham, as he shows you down the street here, it is completely deserted. there are no people out here. as a matter of fact, police are telling us it's against the law for the public to come out here. again, it's okay, we are safe to be here tonight. and as we'll show you up here, look at these palm trees. these are palm trees that have been through other hurricanes before. they are being tested tonight, no question about that. and here is the education to we were tab. this is where we expect to see swells of upwards of 11 feet. that storm surge. you heard the governor of florida say, if you go into the ocean, you will be killed. that's how serious the situation is here over the last 20 minutes or so, we've seen police cars coming down this street, telling people to get out of this area. and i would say just 20, 30 minutes ago, we saw folks out here, actually even small children with their parents taking pictures of these weather conditions, but now the situation is clearly changing.
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we're going to step out of the street here as a car works its way here. the wind, i can tell you, is blowing sideways. it has come from multiple directions. another sign of just how intense this storm is. we expect these conditions again to deteriorate, as we go through the night. many people here should be seeking shelter. good news, most of them are, not everyone, clearly, is, but the situation here will be dicey as we go on into the later evening hours. >> and miguel, where you are in palm beach, as you said, some people still there, at times, how far away would they be from safety? if they leave now, you're showing us gusts that are big and increasing. how far would they be from safety if they left now? >> well, it would depend on where they live, if they're in a nearby hotel, there are hotels just a few minutes, just a few blocks from here. they can certainly get back there. the conditions would still allow for that, tonight. but if you're traveling some distance, i can tell you, when we were making our way to this live position, there are palm
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trees and leaves down on the ground, there are objecti ins blocking the road. that's part of the debris that will blow across this area for the next 24 to 48 hours all across this southeastern seaboard. we're already starting to see debris down. it hasn't been strong enough winds to rip things off of homes or toss around vehicles yet. those conditions, we do expect to see something of that nauch later on tonight. the governor telling people to get out. the police chief here who we've been talking to by phone has told us they want all of the residents out of this area, because they say the life-threatening situation they could put themselves in would then jeopardize their officers who have to respond. as a matter of fact, police who have been out here earlier today have told people they will not come back out here and help people who are in a precarious or dangerous situation later today. >> miguel, thank you very much. and stay safe. i want to turn now to congressman carlos carbello from florida's 26th congressional district. that include parts of both miami-dade and monroe county. your thougts as we look at all of these pictures?
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>> ari, good evening from miami southwest from suburbs, where we're experiencing some wind and rain from hurricane matthew's outer bands, but of course, nothing compared to what our fellow floridians up the coast are experiencing now and in the coming hours. we're very pleased so far that there seems to be very close coordination between the federal government, the state government, and local government. we know from past experiences here, with hurricane andrew, and of course, we all remember hurricane katrina, that we cannot take for granted that there are open lines of communication between local, state, and the federal government. but yesterday, governor rick scott asked for a presidential emergency declaration and hours later, mid-day today, president obama did issue that declaration. and that is going to help coordination efforts, it's going to help a lot of these local governments and state government recover more quickly and get that support from the federal government that the federal government always offers to
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those in the path of these destructive natural disasters. >> congressman, thank you for joining. we have another live shot to go to, which is why i'm turning, but thank you and stay safe. the best to you and your residents. i go now to nbc's kerry sander, who's in port st. lucie. and kerry, i believe you can tell us what you're seeing? >> reporter: ari, i'm in vero beach, and i'm right along the surf here. this is a barrier island now that has been evacuated. but, there are some people in this mandatory evacuation zone that are still here. let me preface that by saying, we'll be leaving here shortly. we have an inland location that we're gong to be going to. even the police officers have left this area. i want to try and show you over here some of the homes that are right along the water here. you see these homes right here. you would think that people would say, i got to get out. look how close the water is. but we found more than 20 people just in this area who have decided to stay put and ride out
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this hurricane. what they're not understanding, according to the authorities is, that this is not simply a wind event. this is going to be tidal surge. in this area, it could exceed 12 feet. so i'm 5'5", add another 5'5" to that and go even higher and you can see, even some of these homes are up on the dunes here. the water will be in the homes. now, as we saw during katrina, some people had to crawl into their attics. and so the authorities here have been trying to do everything they can to scare people out of their homes. but in the mandatory evacuation area along the east coast of florida, there are at least 1.5 million people who decided to stay put. the authorities in this area, as well as in other communities, went door to door and talked to the people. and those that wouldn't leave, they wrote down on a piece of paper their address and their name and in some cases asking for the names so they could notify, what they said, was the next of kin.
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ideally that was to scare people into leaving, but those who decided to stay put apparently are staying put. we'll be evacuating out of here shortly, if for no other reason is these are some really precarious roads as the wind is picking up and it's going to be dark very soon, ari. >> and let us know if you have to leave at any point during this shot, but can your camera show us the houses? have they taken precautions? can you zoom in, can we see on those houses, have they boarded up or are they just along for the risk. >> let me see what i can do for you, this is not going to be easy. i'll have todd who's on the camera point over in that direction. don't be confused if you don't see, as we try to get a closer shot, something like wood on the windows, because many people, especially newer construction like this, choose to put in what is called hurricane-impact glass. it's basically bullet-proof glass. it's extremely expensive, but if you're build a home on the waterfront like this, it's almost a necessity.
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under the south florida building code, you have to either have that impact glass or you have to have shutters. there's no choice there, that's why people choose to put the impact glass, because sometimes people say they don't have the time or energy to climb up two or three stories to put up shutters. but don't be fooled here, it is really quite scary to be inside a house while a hurricane is coming, with windows. because you're looking out. now, this will be a nighttime event and a tomorrow morning event, but you're looking out and you see things flying around, coconuts become missiles. and if you're outside, that coconut, if it's a missile, it could hit you in the head and kill you. bottom line is, most people, not all, most people heeded the warnings and the pleas and the mandatory evacuations and left. but unfortunately, according to the governor and so many local officials, there are so many more who decided to stay put. >> kerry sanders in vero beach. you're about to evacuate. i hope you and your team stay safe. thank you very much.
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more than a million florida residents under evacuation orders now, and the warnings from officials are loud and
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clear. if you're in the path of this storm, they say, get out, your life depends on it. joining me now is one of the many officials involved in this effort, mayor jack siler of ft. lauderdale. mayor, what is your message to anyone in the path of storm at this hour? >> is we have been saying all day, you need to fully cooperate with the authorities, heed the warnings, and stay off the beef and especially the barrier islands. all i can say is, i've listened to your coverage today, is that people need to heed the warnings and cooperate. we've been very fortunate here in ft. lauderdale that probably 99% of our neighbors and visitors listen to us, follow the direction of law enforcement and public safety personnel and stayed off the barrier island. and right now, this storm has also just stayed off the barrier island and it's been very, very fortunate for us. but the size of this storm, the immensity of it, i would just tell people up the coast, listen
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to the people in positions of authority, stay out of the water, stay off the beach, stay off the barrier island. evacuate when you can, because we haven't seen anything like this in florida in years. >> some officials, publicly, warning residents they will not send first responders to areas where people themselves decided to stay in harm's way. is that your position, mr. mayor? >> absolutely. we did that earlier today, where we told people that if you make the decision to stay on the beach or in the water or even on the barrier island, that, you know, we're not going to guarantee your safe. we can't guarantee your safety. we have to look -- you know, look out for the safety of all of our citizens. and, obviously, this is a county with 1.8 million people and a couple people want to ignore the warnings and not follow the law, we're not going to be putting our public safety personnel, our first responders at risk trying to save them, when they've had plenty of you want to heed the
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something new we can show you. this is what hurricane matthew looks like tonight from space. nasa shows these mmgs from the international space station. nasa is also in the path of this
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hurricane. the kennedy space center closed at noon today. the storm expected to hit there at some time tomorrow night or tomorrow morning. the worst stopper to hit that space center since 1962 when it was built. our special coverage ends here. i'm ari melber. thank you for watching. "hardball" is live, next. >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. donald trump is holding a town hall this hour in washington in preparation for sunday's huge debate, a debate many people believe he needs to one and win big. wehle get to all the day in politics, but first an update on hurricane matthew, which is barreling towards the florida coast tonight. bringing with it 140-mile-an-hour winds and the threat of what could be an historic devastation. matthew intensified to a category 4 storm and is expected to make landfall tonight or early tomorrow morning. florida, as well as georgia and the carolinas are under a state of emergency. millions hav

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