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matthew has been downgraded to a category 3. but that does not mean it is any less dangerous. battering the southeast with sustained winds, up to 120 miles per hour in some areas. in florida, where mandatory evacuations have been ordered for 1.5 million people. governor rick scott warned residents to take this storm seriously. >> evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. if you need to evacuate and you haven't, evacuate. this storm will kill you. time is running out. >> he couldn't say it often enough, evacuate, more than 213,000, though, remain without power. residents are preparing for more damage, as the eye of the storm is moving closer to the east coast. president obama signed a state of emergency for georgia, as well, where the storm surge could be worse than the one that flooded new york and new jersey back in 2012 with superstorm
sandy. in haiti, matthew has come and gone, leaving devastation in its wake. as many as 339 people have died according to local officials. let's go out to nbc's ron mott. he's in daytona beach, florida, for us right now. so what does it look like where you are, ron? >> reporter: athere, alex. good morning. you were just talking about the storm surge. that's the number one concern in this part of florida, all up and down the storm zone on the atlantic coast, because that is what usually is responsible for killing the most people in these hurricanes. we got a little bit of good news in that 11:00 update last night in that forecast track is calling for the eye, when it gets up near daytona beach to be a little further east over the atlantic ocean. so that should mean we don't see some of the strongest winds around the eyewall itself, 120, 130 miles per hour. we anticipate we'll see winds
approaching 90, maybe even 100 miles per hour once the eye gets closer to this area. the bad news is the timing. this thing is moving forward at about 13 miles per hour. still about 150 or so miles away from daytona beach. so that puts us around high tide. the next high tide, 12:45 eastern time. that's when we could see the biggest threat of flooding at that hour. now, we did check. we had a high tide at 12:20 this morning. and the water did not get up over the sand dune behind this white gate you see behind me. so that threat diminished pretty quickly. 12:45 p.m. eastern time high tide is probably going to be a different story. as you know from this part of florida, there are a lot of high rise condos and hotels. the hotels have evacuated, all but media and first responders. but there are some condos here. we don't know how many of those are going to stick it out.
those are well fortified buildings. a lot of building colds were changed and strengthened after hurricane andrew caught south florida by surprise and did a lot of damage in 1992. so a lot of the newer construction built from concrete blocks, but still quite a few homes here. '50s, '60s, '70s ranch houses that are wood frame houses. i would not want to be in one of those tonight. most people heeded warnings, alex, and got out of here and went to shelters, and got into some hotels or stayed with family or friends. but there were some people who decided they wanted to be close to their property. they're probably going to have a sleepless night. with that good news about the eye forecast to be a little further east of us, the bad news is that this storm is still going to be around for many, many more hours after the eye passes this area, probably well into tonight. 6:00, 7:00, maybe even longer.
and thinking next week, we see these forecasts, showing matthew taking a hard right turn, and maybe even reenergizing and coming back to hit some of these communities next week. that would be cruel to some of these folks. in terms of power here in this area, it is sll on, remarkably. that's good news for all of us. it keeps that air conditioning flowing. but once it goes, it will get very miserable here very quickly. >> ron, can i can you in terms of the wind gusts you're experiencing, how difficult is it to stand up and do your report? you may remember seeing tom costello last night and he was in a simulator. when it gets to a category 3, you can't stand without assistance. what is it like where you are? >> reporter: that's one of the dangers of those numbers is folk
think 3 is nothing. a 3 is a major hurricane. right now we're getting sustained winds of 35. i would say 35, 40 with some of the gusts. that's probably going to double at least certainly and maybe even get a little more than that, up into that 100-mile-an-hour range in about five or six hours. at that point it becomes too dangerous to be out here. this hotel we're staying has leaks all over them. this hotel is going to leak for the next 10, 12 hours or so. they're used to that and have stopped putting buckets in certain places because it's just not worth it. the hotel is well built, but we expect to be safe here once the eye gets close to the area and the winds start to pick up. again, a little bit of good news from that 11:00 forecast. we'll get a another one later in the morning and hopefully more
good news about this storm breaking up. one thing i have seen throughout the night, as the storm has come our way,er in too weak to rejoin the fight, if you will, closer to the center of this storm, and they sort of die out and they don't rejoin. what that leaves is a smaller, but stronger foot print. >> ron mott, thank you. we'll check in with you again. let's go to bon any schneider tracking the hurricane's path. don't be fooled by a category 3. people think maybe it's slowing down. no, it's still super powerful. >> ron is in daytona beach, so some of the rain bands he was speaking of, he hasn't gotten the worst of it. this is a strong category 3, less than 50 miles off the coast of florida.
so it's a very serious situation, because if the storm pushed on shore, we would be looking at catastrophic conditions. the winds are at 120 miles per hour. those are some really strong winds. they're very much isolated to the core of the center of the storm at present. let's take a look at the track going through friday into saturday and by saturday evening, still looking at a hurricane, category 1 by that time. for a long time over a lot of real estate, going over some populated areas, impacting south carolina and georgia through storm surge. we were talking about the power outages. this is a new graphic that we have to show some of the millions of people that are likely to be impacted from this storm. this is a forecast of what we're looking at in terms of customers without power. you can see florida has the largest amount. north carolina will have a less amount but still something to keep a close watch on.
storm surge, a huge problem with this storm. that has not changed. this storm surge forecast is still persisting to be dangerously high from melbourne to atlanta. when that water piles in, which it will, in coastal georgia, north florida, south carolina, this is where it can be dangerous and why the evacuations have taken place because of storm surge. you could have an area just off the beach, maybe your favorite spot to take a walk, imagine that with 11 feet of water, how dangerous that would be. so that's why people had to evacuate. along the carolina coast, 4 to 6 feet. rainfall amounts, this has also been updated. the amounts are dangerously high going through sunday. so we're still looking at that rainfall threat of 15 inches. that means we're measuring rain by the foot, from savannah,
maybe to charleston and wilmington, north carolina. all of these areas where people like to head for some fun. looking at wet weather, 15 inches of rain potentially into sunday. so a bad weekend there. category 3 storm with our hurricane warnings expending all the way to coastal georgia, into south carolina. the tropical storm watches and warnings persist, as well. i believe this one just expired further south from miami. dangerous winds and of course that battering water. in that loop we were speaking of earlier, that's still evident. even though it is doing that loop, it is going to weaken if that does occur. this is also going further out into the future. you know, alex, any time you go beyond five days, there's less probability. we have to monitor it day by day. at least we know in the more short term what the impacts might be and the danger ahead.
robert, thank you so much. we'll check in with you again. let's go now to craig melvin, in melbourne, florida. he just filed this report. here's craig. just a second. we're getting to craig. all right, let's go. >> from downtown melbourne, you can see that the rain has picked up a little bit. it's certainly not what we're expecting here in the next few hours. the winds, though, have picked up considerably. if you look closely, we're going to the left here, you can probably see it, that downed stop light. there's a downed stop light in the street here. that's the first one we've seen. also, debris starting to accumulate in some of the streets here, as well. one of the problems that we have not seen materialize just yet,
power outages. you'll notice that most of these businesses, yes, they're boarded up. sand bags in front of a number of them. but the lights are on. right now, governor rick scott saying more than 100,000 households around the state don't have power. not so in downtown melbourne. you'll also notice -- again, this is the major thoroughfare in a city of 75,000. the streets are empty. most of the folks here heeding the flees from local officials to get out of town. another news crew there to the right. most of the folks we've seen on the streets are either of our ilk or members of law enforcement or emergency services. but melbourne expected to get walloped. wind gusts approaching perhaps
triple digits later this morning. also, the rain expected to pick up as well. but right now, right now by and large, melbourne, florida is fairly in tact. that's the very latest. we'll stay on the scene and continue to update you throughout the morning. >> well, thank you very much for that. hurricane matthew may have been downgraded to a category 3, but it's packing plenty of power, enough to scare the experts out of florida. take a listen to this. >> we have to evacuate. they had a skeleton hotel crew that are going to ride this out with us. when they found out we were advised to get out of here by our own experts back at weather channel headquarters, they're like, hey, if the weather channel is leaving, we're leaving. that is what they're doing along with us. you get used to sweaty odors in your car, you think it smells fine but your passengers smell this...
it is 3:15 a.m. on the east coast. in the southeast, hurricane matthew showing no signs of letting up its assault. this category 3 hurricane has already left more than 200,000 people without power, just in the state of florida alone. it has forced as many as 2.5 million more out of their homes. let's bring in the former director of communications and public affairs at fema. good morning to you. let's talk about the preparedness for a storm of this magnitude. from fema's stand point, what are the most important points to get out there? >> washington has been prepositioning supplies, 500,000 meals, 500,000 liters of water, dozens of cots and blankets,
just in case. there's a lot of people in shelters, that will be looking forward to get out of them. they're not the greatest places to be, but certainly sticking it out in their home. but fema leans forward quite a bit during these disasters, or potential disasters. fema has a great emergency manager, the director of fema. craig fugate is very, very forward leaning and they've been doing a lot to prepare for this storm and working with the states and governors. they have liaisons in all of the states. and there's been dozens of people in the fema operation center here in washington. so fema has been very, very forward leaning. you know, that is priceless in a disaster, because we've seen what can happen when they're not
forward leaning in previous disasters in katrina. so fema learned a lot of lessons from that storm. so people should be fairly confident that the federal government has done a pretty good job in preparing for this disaster. >> some of these numbers, just the logistics of putting this together. thank goodness fema knows what it's doing. you talked about people going to shelters, they just want to go home and see how things stand. what is fema's role when people go back home and realize there's been some damage and potential devastation? >> well, first of all, people have to understand that it's not a federal responsibility until the president declares a disaster. a federal disaster. the president declared federal emergencies, which pays for the emergency protective measures and overtime, et cetera. but this has not been a declared disaster.
so there isn't any federal help right now, because there isn't any need for it. it really comes into play when it's beyond the state's ability to manage a disaster or to financially fund a disaster. so when people get home and they find there may be a tree that fell on their house or broke a window or whatever, they hopefully have insurance to cover that, because right now, as it stands, there isn't any federal aid, unless this is a disaster. thank goodness this has not turned into that kind of a disaster. of course, we don't know yet. tomorrow morning, at first light, we'll be doing damage assessments, fema and the state, will be going through the neighborhoods, doing overflights and using drones in many places to take a look and see what kind of damage there is. it's likely there's more flood damage because of the storm
surge than wind damage from what i've seen in the coverage and from what i hear from people in palm beach county and brevard county. right now it's a state responsibility, so people can thank their lucky stars it didn't turn into a disaster and they have a home to go back to. >> thank you for that. i'm sure we'll be checking in with you again. joining us now, nick mahahus, reporter with the "miami herald." i want to ask you about whether or not the assessment is that miami-dade, broward counties have dodged a bullet in terms of the amount of damage that's been done, and then we'll get to the power outages. what is the assessment there? >> we were very, very lucky here. everyone if boin both counties
were preparing as if this storm were going to hit us full-on. luckily it did not. we had some downed trees, the power outages that you mentioned. but really the storm did not come anywhere close to us. >> how many people are without power right now? >> in the south florida region, the latest numbers, we have 102,000 people without power tonight. most of them are in palm beach, about 80,000 in palm beach. dade has is fewest people without power and they're getting the service back up because the wind has died down. overall, that's only about 4% of florida power and light customers down here. so it would have been much, much worse for him. >> nick, in terms of
evacuations, were there mandatory orders? did people heed them or try to ride things out there in your region? >> people tried to ride things out down here, especially in miami and broward. we had some mobile home resid t residenresiden residents seek shelter. in broward, we had a pet friendly shelter. but overall, people stayed? their homes, including the barrier island. >> lastly, for those people trying to get in and out of the area via flight, miami was closed down, but i believe operations were made to open ft. lauderville. do you know the status? >> ft. lauderdale is opening up at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, but several airlines have completely canceled their flights until saturday. so if you're flying into south florida, call your airline and see if they're going to be having flights.
already feeling the effects. as many as 1.5 million people have been forced out of their homes. another 200,000 more without power tonight. welcome, everyone, i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters. cal perry has been with us all night and staying through the morning to help us track hurricane matthew. let's talk about storm surge, why that is such a major concern. >> more people are killed in a hurricane by the storm surge than anything else. hurricane katrina was a hurricane category 3 when it came on shore. it's these winds, 70 miles per hour sustained that will push that water inland. that will cause that storm surge. that's what authorities are worried about. when you look at this, this is going to be a model of what could happen. this is a category 1 hurricane.
you will see that in blue here. that is up to three feet. category two, more than three feet of water. in morning, more than six feet. as we go to a category 3 storm. this red is now nine feet of water. and it's important to note that the storm surge models haven't really changed. we've ticked down to a category 3 storm, but still expecting possibly category 4 type storm surge. you see what that looks like. this is the kennedy space center here, all of which would be under water. when you zoom out and take a look at the coast, look at the storm surge potential here in coastal georgia, in places like south carolina. this is why the governor of south carolina wanted to get people 100 miles away from the coast, clear of any danger. this storm surge is still a real danger. as i zoom back in on the kennedy
space center, it's basically an island. this satellite here $1.2 billion is supposed to go into space in november, this better determine hurricane forecasting. that's supposed to be the future of meteorology, and right now potentially going to be ruined by this hurricane. >> i was reading how you're talking about cape canaveral. as they were shutting down, employees were going around looking for anything loose because of projectile problems. >> yeah. in 1992, everything changed. that's when we saw hurricane andrew and there was a lot of dam. they retro fitted all that equipment to withstand up to 130-mile-an-hour winds. the problem is there's no way to retro fit for those storm surges. >> thank you for that.
john, let's get the latest from you. we know it's a category 3, it had been a category 4. that can be deceiving, because people may think it's just a category 3 now. >> it is a category 3, just dropped a little. maximum winds 120 miles per hour, and it's very close to the coast. the system is only about 30 or 40 miles east of that florida coastline. >> okay. how large is the eye right now this and when that hit makes landfall, is that when you're going to have the greatest anticipation of problems? >> very good question. we're watching this on radar, watching it by the data samples that the hurricane hunters are investigating it. it has two eyewalls, which happens with these tropical systems. we have an inner eyewall that is
starting to erode. that actually has the core winds, the winds near 120 miles an hour. then the outer eyewall that looks like it's becoming more dominant. because of that outer eyewall expanding and decreasing in intensity, we're starting to see the winds increase along the east coast of central florida. so that's quite significant. we think that edge of the eyewall may be near the cape canaveral area in the next few hours. so we think the wind also pick up there to hurricane force during the next few hours. >> john, with regard to the eastern side or western side of a hurricane, typically is it the eastern side that is more powerful, and if that's true, are things not as bad as they otherwise have been had this been moving up the gulf. >> absolutely. the eastern side is always the stronger side, because you have
motion that helps enhance that's side. so it is a blessing from florida that florida is on the west side of the system, basically for the entire lifetime of the system. so that is good news. areas that have basically missed the event for south florida, they're extremely fortunate, because this was a beast of a category 4 hurricane. we hope a lot of people don't think the event didn't happen, because it absolutely did. they just narrowly missed it. >> but it is possible this could ramp back up to a category 4? >> certainly. i think what we think here at the hurricane center is the storm will more or less maintain its strength as it continues northward and may weaken a little bit as it approaches georgia and south carolina. but this suspect going to go
away any time soon. this is going to stay a category 3 hurricane or perhaps get a little stronger. >> yeah. we're going to be dealing with this for a long time. john, thank you so much. let's go right now to bonnie, who is watch thing storm from the weather center. we were listening to john there together. he said it's going to stay a category 3, but this has been on our radar for so long and it's not going away. >> it's been a long haul of it. right now, the center is 55 miles east-southeast of melbourne, florida. it's still a category three, which is a major hurricane, nothing to not take seriously. let's take a look at the track. riding the periphery of florida, as john was talking about, it's that west side that is going to impact areas near the space coast in the next few hours.
it could be worse. if the storm came on shore, we would see the eastern side, which would be much worse. as of 11:00 p.m. last night, this red line in the center of the cone has shifted to the east. it's not completely clear, not by any means, because the cone is still covering daytona beach, jacksonville, savannah and charleston. at 5:00 a.m., we'll get a full update. this is what we're looking at right now. so we're not in the clear yet. one of the biggest threats with this particular storm is the storm surge. melbourne to savannah, going to georgia, this is really high storm surge. up to 11 feet. so in areas where you ride along the beach where it's perfectly dry, we're likely to see it covered by water, especially through here, coastal georgia, savannah. unfortunately likely to see a lot of storm surge there.
still substantial, four to six feet. rainfall totals have increased since earlier. now we're looking at the potential of 15 inches, all the way from savannah through charleston and into wilmington, north carolina, right along the border of north carolina and south carolina. we're like lig to see a lot of rain measured by the foot. this does through sunday. i know we were talking about how this event is a long lasting one. we still have a few more days to go at least, because this storm is going to be a rainmaker and bring about that surge. hopefully the most damaging winds that john from the national hurricane center was talking about stays off the coast here. just want to let everyone know, even though it's a category 3 and offshore, please, don't let your guard down with this shore.
>> matthew could actually make a turn and go back in towards florida. let's talk about that the next time. i know it's not a guarantee, but at least people would have their heads up. bonnie, thank you so much for that. we're going to bring you the latest headlines on hurricane matthew. as bonnie was saying, it remains a real danger.
as many as 339 people are dead after hurricane matthew roared through haiti on thursday. today, the storm is right now making its way toward the east coast of florida. 1.5 million people in the state have been ordered to evacuate. another 500,000 ordered to evacuate in georgia and 300,000 in south carolina. and the president has signed emergency declarations to speed
the response in all three of these states. officials are urging residents not to underestimate this storm, to get out while they still can. >> people do not seem to get it and are not leaving. i have already checked -- i'm not saying this to be theatrical. you know me, but i talked to my detective captain earlier today, and i asked him, do you have body bags? are you prepared for mass casualties? because if people do not leave and we get 140-mile-an-hour wind gusts in some of our mobile home maces, we are going to have fatalities. >> let's go now to make mccoy. good morning to you. let's talk about what's happening there right now. is there a sense that ft. lauderdale dodged a bullet? >> reporter: absolutely. we have seen the worst of this storm, and right now the winds have died down, it's no longer raining here. the storm seems to have past.
people here breathing a sigh of relief as they wake up at this very early hour this morning. i was out here all day yesterday, and the weather was coming in spurts. that's because here in broward county, we were at the very southern end of the hurricane warnings. what happened was, the hurricane ended up staying off offshore than we anticipated. so all we got were the outer bands and it spared south florida from what people were fearing could have been some destructive damage. now, schools have already announced that they're going to be closed today. those closures will remain in effect, since staff were planning on staying home. they don't have the buses ready. so the schools remain closed, but we'll see the airports reopen. miami never officially closed, but we expect to see flights resume in miami, as well.
so certainly here in ft. lauderdale, the sense is we did dodge a bullet, and now everyone is just looking to our northern neighbors and hoping the game nor them. >> looking behind you, i see plenty of power. i know there are some issues in the region, but it's all it will up behind you. with regard to what you talked about, people waking up and feeling good this morning that they didn't get further hit, did they order mass evacuations in the area or did residents pretty much stay put? >> reporter: here in broward county, they were under a voluntary evacuation for low-lying areas and mobile home parks. those were considered to be the most vulnerable parts. most people did choose to stay put. you have to keep in mind, i believe cal perry was talking about it. since hurricane andrew back in 1992, a lot of these newer buildings especially here in ft. lauderdale, because it's been
built up more recently, they have hurricane windows and have been built at a higher building code. so people felt more confident that they could ride out the storm. right now in broward county, about 10,000 remain without power. >> black, thank you so much for the update there and the good news that the ft. lauderdale airport will be reopening at 11:00. thanks, blake, for all that. joining us by phone, dawn walker, a good morning to you. how good is it where you are? >> well, i don't think we're domging the bullet like they did in south florida. the center of the storm is about 50 miles off the coastline, but the bands of the storm reach into the gulf of mexico. so we're looking for a day-long event. the storm is moving about 14
miles an hour and we have a 72-mile long county. >> let's talk about evacuations. have people been ordered to evacuate, and where are folks if they're not in their homes? >> yeah, we implemented mandatory evacuations at 3:00 monday for our barrier island and low-lying and flood prone areas, and we opened 15 shelters, and we've got close to 5,000 people in those shelters overnight tonight. hope thi hopefully the others went to higher ground. we're looking at 35,000 outages in the county. we're expecting -- we've seen winds of 74 miles per hour but looking for gusts of 90 to 100
miles per hour. >> that is significant. in terms of damage, do you have any assessment or at least are there projectile problems? are there flooding problems? what do you anticipate being the worst? >> so far nothing major. we had some mayor lines down. because of the limbs, it's been dangerous for emergency vehicles to get out on the road. if there's any good news to this, it's early in the morning, people aren't out on the road, so that's helping out a lot in this. >> what's your biggest concern about this day ahead? you talked about that swath of property you have to deal with, 72 miles in width. that is a lot. is it just getting people cleared from their homes that they haven't left already, do you expect those intending to leave are already out? >> if they haven't left already, they're probably better off bunkering down where they're at.
between manufactured homes and mobile homes in the county, that's really one of the main concerns, that and whatever kind of roof or wind damage that's caused. we've also had a house fire during the storm, and we've got fire and rescue on the scene. and that's believed to be storm related. >> i heard, don, about some emergency rescue officials, police, fire, who have already left certain communities in florida. are there some of those communities in the county, where they've had to take shelter? >> all of our emergency responders are in place. we tell people once the winds top 45 miles per hour, it's unsafe for our emergency vehicles to be on the road. so if you have an emergency during that period of the storm, we will eventually respond.
there's a life-threatening aspect of the storm itself, then the life threatening response of what happens when emergency response can't get to you. >> don walker, thank you very much for taking the time. stay with us as we track hurricane matthew. we're look at the devastation it's caused in haiti. it is extraordinary. we'll take a look.
here on the east coast. hurricane matthew continues its approach. the eye of the storm is set to hit indian river and bervard counties in florida at any time, bringing sustained winds up to 100 miles per hour. as many as 1.5 million people in the state of florida have been ordered to evacuate. the death toll in haiti as a result of this storm is now 283 people, though that number could simply rise. jacqueline charles, the caribbean correspondent for the "miami herald" toured one of the most devastated parts of haiti today and described it in her article as a "desolate disaster zone." she joins me now by phone from port-au-prince, haiti. you talk about that -- the description of the area being desolate. talk about where things stand there. >> i can tell you, on the
southern peninsula, the western most point, it remains cut off because of no communication and no cell phone service and it's just devastated. trees are without leaves, if they are standing. if they're not, they're snapped in two like pencils. residents say the only thing they have is the clothes on their back and the water out of coconuts. it is just incredible. this one particular region, which was the last green space in haiti today is nothing but a graveyard of fallen trees. >> what's in sort so tragic about this is so many of these people had yet to fully recover from the 2010 earthquake. were you there in the wake of the earthquake? can you compare these two disasters for haiti? >> yes, i was one of the first foreign reporters to arrive in haiti after the earthquake. as a matter of fact, i'm the one that told everyone the president
made it alive. someone today on the flight that i went on, because it was the president who did this flight, he says, you know, in 2010, we had over 300,000 dead from the earthquake. but the disaster was basically concentrated in one area, in port-au-prince. today, the death toll number is going to rise. the government is saying 108, but they know that as they get more and more information, the number is going to go up. but we're not just talking about one region or department of the country, this is an entire southern coastline, talking about four different departments in this country that has been devastated. people have lost their farms, their livelihoods, they've lost their homes. so the magnitude of it.
>> jacquelinjacqueline, we're r aerials of the devastation, and it is heartbreaking. what is so troubling is for so many of these people, they didn't stand a chance against this hurricane. we looked at the types of buildings in which that are were living, and they seemed -- no way could they withstand the forces of a category 3 or 4 hurricane like matthew. >> well, yes. what happens is a lot of people, they left the coastline because of the storm surge. they knew that the sea could rise between 10 and 20 feet. so they left and went into the mountains, but the mountains were also hit by the winds. they told me that the wind came with such a force it lifts up buildings and just dropped them. this is -- we also believe that as we get into these remote isolated areas, that you may find one or more deaths and more
and more destruction. >> how are they even going to get to these areas? i know that major bridges have been washed away, so what's the plan and how lock do they expect it will take to get to these regions? >> well, the u.s. has sent in some helicopters. the coast guard was delivering food. the people just did a first flight to take a look along the coastlines. what they have done is prepositioned heavy material, like bulldozers in different parts of that region and hopefully for them to work on the road. there's a major bridge that connects the peninsula with the capital. that bridge chanced. and that was one of the main reasons why tomorrow's election is not going to happen, because they had no way to get the ballots into some of these areas. after seeing what i've saw in the last couple of days, one has
to ask when are they going to be ready to redo these elections that are a year overdue now? >> last question, we here in the u.s. are so fortunate to have shelters often times for people to get to and hunker down and be physically safe, no matter what happens to their personal property. was that the case in haiti? were there enough shelters for the people seeking it? >> yes. the problem wasn't the shelters as much as convincing people to go to shelters. and then you had another challenge. i went into a shanty down along the ocean and i spoke to a lot of people there. and they wanted people to go into the shelters, but this was no transportation to get them there. after they went into the shelters, there was nothing for them to eat. the mayor of port-au-prince, had to put out on s.o.s. just hours
before the storm for potable water and blankets. schools are closed until monday. but the people now who have been displaced are living in shelters. so a city of over 400,000 people that hold region, and these people are -- you say where to? where are they going to go? >> there's probably no answer for that question. very devastated haiti. jacqueline charles, thank you very much for the update from your perspective. at the top of the hour, we'll give you a forecast for hurricane matthew where it's going next. stay with us.