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direct landfall, still time to make a direct hit. >> a major concern right now. storm surge. we're due to get an update from the national hurricane center in roughly an hour. forecasters warning about that devastating storm surge. extreme winds, warning of heavy rains as well. >> storm surge prediction anywhere from 7 to 11 feet could be catastrophic. >> during the brunt of this storm, it wasn't just the winds that were violent but the rain came from different directions. >> rains whipping around and fortunately, whoa. >> wow. >> power outages continue to rise by the hour. you saw a transformer blow there and there's another one nearly 600,000 homes and businesses without power right now. more than half a million homes are without power. hundreds of flights cancelled.
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airports shut down as well in florida. matthew now also linked to at least one death here in florida. authorities in st. lucie county say a woman in late 50s died after going into cardiac arrest overnight. emergency responders had stopped operations because of the fierce winds at the time. our reporters stationed up and down the coastline. into georgia and south carolina as well. monitoring the latest developments from hurricane matthew. let's start with nbc news meteorologist bill karins with more on where this thing is right now and where it's going. bill, what can you tell us? >> it's time to forget about the fact it hasn't been all that horrible up to this point because we do think it's going to be horrible and it's starting to get horrible into areas around daytona beach and this is not what we wanted to see in the last hour. we're getting fixed points. this is the past path. the storm wobbled towards the
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coast and so instead of being maybe 25 miles off-shore, it's a little less. and this eye wall, this is the western eye wall with 100-mile-per-hour gusts. that's now coming very preciously close here to the coast of florida. let's stop the radar and look at some of the points and how far away the hurricane force winds. excuse me, the hurricane force winds are on the coast. these can do significant damage like tearing roofs off of homes. daytona beach, this is now only 8 miles off the coastline. from areas a little closer, let me zoom in. there's small towns. edgewater, new smyrna beach and where some of the areas are located. when we talk about damage, i used to go to new smyrna beach. beautiful coastline right there and as far as the distance goes away now, we are only talking from new smyrna beach, 4 miles those 100-mile-per-hour winds. if there's significant structural damage done right now, it is happening here from
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oak hill, that's kind of the population point and then it goes into the military area in cape canaveral but this is the population centers and where the worst is all occurring. the shift occurred from the center of the storm, so now the center of the storm, the eye center is 20 miles off the coast whereas previously, last hour, we were looking at about 26 miles. so just that five mile shift closer to the coast. five mile shift to the west is now bringing our hurricane force winds to the coast. that's huge ramifications for the amount of damage done by the wind. the storm surge is pretty much guaranteed and just because our computer models off by 20 to 30 miles yesterday, doesn't mean they'll be off from here on out. the trend has been worse for our friends in south carolina over the last 12 hours with our computers. from here on out, we're supposed to take that storm pretty much due north but of course, we saw that little jog right five miles towards the west and this evening, i mean, one, two, three
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of the six computers had a landfall over the top of charleston tonight and that would be a most likely category two or strong category one hurricane. that's a huge deal in the storm surge would be worse if we got the center going inland from charleston to georgetown to myrtle beach. a lot of elements in play. here's the storm surge map and the water is now getting to the peak height point we'll see in daytona beach. water in parking garages is overlapping the dunes in some locations and the red coloring here is the 5 to 10 foot range from hilton head to southward to daytona beach. craig, we were lucky overnight. it was just off the coast by about 20 to 30 miles. spared us a lot of damage but that's changing now and these areas in volusia county are going to be some of the worst damage we've seen so far. >> bill, bill, this update we're going to get at the top of the hour from the hurricane center, what are you looking for specifically in that next
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update? >> well, they're looking at the same stuff i am here, and they probably saw that little wobble at the center. they also are getting the same computer models i'm getting here. they may take that track. i want to get, actually, follow me over here. we got it for you here. this is the 5:00 a.m. update with the track and they took the storm up here. and it was kind of roughly about 50 miles off the coastline of savannah and maybe 30 miles off the coast of charleston. i believe they're going to shift this ever so slightly closer to the coastal areas and that would mean increased wind fear. 105 to 90. those are signicant winds for major power outages in the region. we'll see how much closer to the coast it gets, craig, but that model shifting closer to south carolina, that little wobble we just had, you know, don't be fooled by the fact our friends in ft. lauderdale, melbourne, and all those areas south of this space coast did well, where you are.
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they're thankful. we're happy for them but to the north, i'm still afraid this will be a historic storm. >> bill karins, come back to you later. i want to talk about the possibility that this storm goes out and then comes back for a second punch. right now though, 90 miles north of where i stand in daytona beach. nbc's ron mott is standing by and ron, you correct me if i'm wrong, high tide there in daytona beach. roughly 2 or 2.5 hours from now, but it already looks pretty bad. >> reporter: i think when we get to high tide, it could go real bad to awful. the concern is right now and high tide certainly going to bring this up over the seawall and potentially enter homes and businesses well inland off the ocean here. as you know, the intercoastal waterway and a lot of people who live along it, it's a mile or so at this point and then all these water inlands that we then lead
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into the intercoastal water way will take on a lot very quickly. we could see, i don't think we could see it and get our camera out before, but it had a partial collapse of part of the hotel here. i don't know if it's a shed of some sort, but a good chunk of the building has collapsed over here. fortunately, i don't think anyone is in that area, but it just happened right before we went on the air there. the wind is absolutely positi positivepositiv positivepositiv positively here, craig. and one of the things officials are asking us to pass along if they still have power or ways to see television in this area is once this eye goes past, don't assume the storm is over. it's a 6:00 or 7:00 eastern time if not even longer. and so one of the things we also want to tell people, don't go
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home, don't start looking for stuff in your home because that's when we see people get hurt and while there are some first responders here, they're not going out at this. it's going to be a while before they can respond to calls and heard, unfortunately, what i believe our first confirmed fatality here in florida. it's well to the south. a woman apparently suffered a cardiac event, lost her life in her late 50s. so we are hunkering down as best we can. we've got to be mindful of flying debris. i checked before we came on the air here on the front side of the hotel. front atlantic avenue and things are flying through the streets there. portions of this hotel itself, some of the siding have come off the hotel itself. the trim work is flapping in the wind and if you can believe it, craig, some people are out here driving in this and they may have a good reason to do so but they are doing so at significant
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risk. craig, back to you. >> ron mott, we'll come back to you in just a bit. forgive me here, but it's sort of difficult to see. the ocean, is that the ocean right behind you? >> reporter: right behind us. there are some large surfs and waves out there that we have seen in the past hour and it's only going to get worse as we get closer to high tide and as matthew, the eye of the storm gets closer to daytona beach. now, we're not expecting that eye to cross over land but just how far off the coast the eye wall is going to be because the closer we get to the eye-wall, the closer we are to the 120-mile-per-hour sustained winds. sustained. that means it's going for an hour or two, maybe longer. we hope it goes out to the east and spares us from the worst of the winds. these are pretty bad right now,
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craig. >> ron mott in daytona beach, stay safe, my friend. we'll check in with you and we'll check on you in just a bit. let's go to coco, florida. about 20 miles north of where we are in melbourne where we find msnbc's marianna atencio. what's the scene in cocoa? >> reporter: so craig, the wind just picked up considerably here in cocoa. you can see some of the damage overnight revealed by the sunrise but i'll show you the sign that just fell over. keep in mind, it doesn't look like much, but i am about 6 miles inland, so it is still considerable damage. we've also seen some people trying to walk around, people have been hunkered down in hotels like this one and that's where it gets dangerous because people think that the storm has passed, and then they start taking those risks. that sound that you hear there, that's a generator that this
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motel has been using in order to keep folks indoors. i just want to show you a glimpse of what thousands of people across the state are doing right now. they're in shelters, motels with their pets. we see little kids with their stuffed animals. many of these families thought they were going to have to evacuate for days so they made the provisions and worried about state of their homes and some of the neighbors who stayed behind. craig? >> maria atencio, we'll be making our way. thank you. that scene you see there in the hotel lobby isn't one of the official shelters here in florida. governor rick scott announcing there are more than 200 shelters open throughout this state. thousands of residents are living in those shelters right now. gabe gutierrez is in jacksonville, florida, roughly 175 miles north of where we are standing right now.
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gabe, when we checked in with you last time, the rain had fallen off just a bit. the wind died down just a bit. is that still the case? >> reporter: it's not the case. we just have been hearing the rain and the wind really pick up in the last few minutes and starting to see those tropical storm gusts really, you know, rake across this area, and local officials, we just heard from them. now, there is a bit of good news for the jacksonville area. they're kind of tamping down their forecast. they expect 7 to 12 feet of storm surge. now they look at more 7 to 9. still very significant though and authorities here are now warning people, the ones that have not evacuated, they're telling them to really hunker down and to not move at this point, that it is not safe to do so. now, what they're saying is that the height of the storm for the jacksonville area, i think it's in the afternoon or evening hours. but things ramp up and last
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until midnight. it's a lot of hours of heavy rain and also, strong winds. they're now expecting about 60 to 80-mile-an-hour winds with gusts of up to 90 miles an hour. that's according to local authorities here. as we've been saying, the mayor here in jacksonville ordered the evacuation of 450,000 people from this metro area. very significant storm and even though the storm now is a little bit more offshore, it's been tracking to the east, and do feel it could be potentially serious. but the conditions, you could see behind me, the water is churning up a bit. not too serious yet. hopefully that doesn't happen for at least another couple of hours but we start to see more rain and stronger winds as matthew churns its way north. back to you. >> gabe gutierrez in jacksonville, florida, talking about that storm surge. again, the national weather service still maintaining that the storm surge from this hurricane when all is said and done, the storm surge from
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matthew could be as bad, if not worse, than what we saw as a result of super storm sandy. the state of georgia, one of three states under the state of emergency, florida, south carolina, and georgia as well. bracing for hurricane matthew. nbc's rehema ellis is in savannah, roughly 300 miles north of here. what's the scene like ahead of it? >> i can tell you right now, the wind is starting to pick up and the rain is coming at us sideways. conditions are deteriorating and this is somewhat of a calm before the storm we're expecting. take a look behind me. this is the bridge. you can't see cars going across here. now this bridge connects savannah georgia with south carolina. at noon, they're shutting this down. this bridge is about 104 feet in the air and think winds are so severe, it would be dangerous to cross that bridge. and look beyond the bridge.
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that's the port of savannah, shut down. this is one of the two busiest ports of entry on the east coast. it carries about millions of tons of container car duogo a y shut down. president declared a state of emergency for this area and governor ordered mandatory evacuations affecting some 500,000 people in six counties east of i-95. west of i-95, they call it a voluntary evacuation but the mayor here in savannah said mandatory or voluntary, people should leave the area. they're expecting that it's going to get so bad at the height of the storm around early morning hours of saturday, we could have winds of up to 105 miles an hour. so dangerous that first responders are leaving this area as of noon. so the mayor said if you stay and decide to ride the storm out and get in trouble, call 9-1-1,
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no one is coming to help you. so leave now if you can. many people who left islands came to hotels in the area like we are at one of the hotels. people said to me that when they heard that the mayor and others were saying first responders were leaving, they figured it's time for them to leave as well. craig? >> that's certainly a sign. rehema ellis is in savannah. just a stone's throw from hilton head, south carolina. we'll check in there later in the palmetto state. lester holt is going to join me here in melbourne in a minute. he's stationed on duty throughout the night. right now, live look above palm beach county, florida. this is a look, courtesy of one of the news choppers there. 600,000 people without power so far and historic storm surge still expected north of here. >> that little area there in georgia is kind of like a mini
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just remember, it could be the worst part of this is still to come. i mean, just look. i am really concerned about jacksonville. >> florida governor rick scott there last hour just got word a short time ago, president obama will be receiving a briefing from fema. also homeland security within the hour as the conclusion of that briefing, we are expecting to hear from president obama about hurricane matthew. we're told that's going to be sometime between 10:30 and 11:00 here, so just a short time from
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now. back now live here in melbourne, florida, up for roughly three hours. continues to hug the eastern coast of the state. national hurricane center said the eye wall brushed against cape canaveral generating gusts well over 100 miles per hour but the most powerful winds remain offshore at this point. one death has been as a result of this storm just south of us in port st. lucie, a woman had a cardiac event. first responders couldn't get to her. hundreds of thousands across the state waking up without power. matthew now moving up the coast towards georgia. just heard from rehema ellis in savannah moments ago. i want to bring in "nbc nightly news" anchor lester holt here with us in melbourne, florida. you got in about the same time yesterday evening as well. conditions now versus conditions then. >> the bands of rain and all
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that, i think it was about 5:00 this morning it started to rock and roll around here. the lights began to flicker. they kind of hung in for a while and then finally went out. before i appeared on "the today show," i tried to look around. transformers blowing up. never a good thing and keeping an eye on the indian river here. we anchored "nightly news" from there last evening and we figured it would begin to flood, and we were watching it rise a little while ago but it looks like it's receding now. so we haven't seen a huge storm surge event here. one of our crews at the beach a while ago said they didn't see significant damage. what i find interesting is people were asking, how many people stayed, because you never know that because all i know is people are beginning to emerge. they haven't been far from here. >> they really do feel like, not
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to cliche but feel like they dodged a bullet. you are broadcasting "nightly" from florida tonight. >> we're going to figure that out. we'll head north and try to find a suitable location. we have to take a lot of things into consideration, of course. but i watch these people drive by here and the whole evacuation thing, evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. the fear always is we never know what these things are do. it went farther to the east and we didn't get the hard hit, but what about the next time? people going, well, back in 2016, they made a big hype and none of us knew when we bunkered down whether it would come straight at us or go to the right. people are gambling with their lives. >> folks in daytona right now, folks in georgia perhaps, folks north of us, jacksonville, it looks like this thing really could be sort of a major flooding event. >> those things we look at. the weather people can tell you.
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those are colors, they can go any way there. you have to prepare for the worst. the hope is that the next time, people will still heed warnings and not use it as an excuse to stay because it could always be worse. >> we know you've got to get on the road. thank you so much. florida's senior senator bill nelson joining us next as well and head back to daytona beach. daytona beach, again, getting slammed right now. >> reporter: i'm alex witt in daytona beach. it's after 8:00 in the morning. we've got winds gusting over 60 miles an hour at this point. definitely feeling the force. we've seen debris flying off of buildings. further up, cranes over here moving in the wind. this business here lost one of their plywoods. it hit and shattered into pieces. their sign barely hanging on at this point. you can see the entire driveway here is covered with debris and
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back now here in melbourne, florida, we can tell you within the last few moments, power outage numbers have been updated as a result of what you see on the screen there. that's a live radar. 640,000 roughly, 640,000 homes in and around florida. excuse me, in florida, not around florida, all of them in florida are without power. president obama expected to talk about hurricane matthew within the hour. we'll bring it to you here. with me now on the phone, senior senator from florida, bill nelson, senator, thank you so much for joining. i know you've got a lot going on
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and i appreciate you carving out some time. what can you tell us about the situation specifically around the jacksonville area where we understand they are expecting historic storm surge? >> that's the threat now. because of the wall of water as the winds come directly in to the beach, although, you still had the eye of the hurricane out in the atlantic, yet it gets to the coast as it parallels to the coast, you have the stronger winds that brings that storm surge. and there's so many low-lying areas including the st. john's river that the surge wouldn't just be on the beach in the barrier island. it could go into all the inland waters including the st. john's
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river. >> senator, response so far here in melbourne seems to have been more than sufficient. local officials gave the warnings. citizens here seemed to have listened to the warnings. have you found that to be the case around the state of florida as well? are people playing this thing smart for the most part? >> i am very proud of our people. they obeyed the mandatory evacuation orders and i am very proud of the seamless working together and cooperation between the federal level, fema, the state, and the local governments and all of the emergency operations centers i've visited over the last couple of days, they were working very hard to get prepared, all working in cooperation. i think we're seeing the result
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of that and hopefully, that will continue as this storm moves up the coast of florida. >> senator bill nelson, senior senator from the sunshine state. keep us posted, sir. >> hey, i will. and it's very interesting hearing orlando. a bald eagle has just come in and caught a fish from one of the lakes, landed on bank, and is eating the fish that he just caught. >> senator, if you can get us a picture of that, we sure would love to see it. we'll put that on television. senator bill nelson doing some breaking news reporting for us as well. all right. thank you. nbc's kerry sanders in the car, still in the car on i-95.
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there were words that parts of i-95 have been shut down. is that still the case? have you come across areas of the interstate that have been shut off? >> reporter: the twhole interstate is closed off. the authorities have given us permission to move up the road. we're driving on an interstate around 26 miles an hour right now and we're doing that because there is still a lot of danger out here, a lot of debris. as you look out the front right now, we're fortunate that we're in a spot that we don't have any debris but we see some places where it's higher trees or down in the interstate, we've had to loop around. we make our way north and pretty close to daytona. this would be the exit if you were going to the daytona beach airport. that's where we are right now as we're moving north. the wind is quite dramatic outside. i'm just outside a couple of minutes ago. interestingly, further south from here, there's another camera crew that's making their
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way up as well. they told me that they saw three alligators on interstate 95. so it's not uncommon we have lots of alligators but you don't usually see them on the interstate. the conditions have been increasingly getting worse as we moved north. we started in satellite beach, came over interstate 95. craig, we've been making our way north and what we are attempting to do as we're driving rather cautiously on the road here is to try to get a little bit ahead of this storm to get into an area where that storm surge will come in. it was a big surprise that there was no storm surge to the south. a lot of things sort of conspired to keep that from happening. one, the hurricane stayed slightly offshore. a little more than they thought would happen. the wind was blowing off the shore and wind is part of the event that usually pushes it on to the shore and then you happened to have low tide. so all of that worked really well for the north and south.
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high tide around 1:30 and then the winds blowing, and florida turns out a little bit right there as you get north and move up into the jacksonville and a bit of a loop there. so the storm will push it up many that way and there could be some dramatic storm surge which is flooding. and i know folks have been listening to us. the number one cause of death is not the flying debris but the drowning because people who should have evacuated didn't and there's the flood waters and there's nothing you can do when that happens. craig? >> kerry sanders on i-95. very few correspondents in this network know florida like kerry sanders. he has worked here for several decades. calls florida home. kerry will come back in a bit.
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jacob soboroff is in jacksonville, about 180 miles north of where we are right now in melbourne. and jacob, a lot of attention now being paid to where you are in jacksonville, florida. a lot of concern over the storm surge there. national weather service saying the surge in jacksonville could be worse than what we saw in and around new jersey as a result of hurricane sandy. >> reporter: craig, it could be, as we've been saying, potentially extremely dangerous situation here in jacksonville. we heard from the governor not too long ago. gabe gutierrez, our colleague also here. this is the john ausub jr. bridge. crickets except for the occasional car over the bridge. one passing by right now. on the other side of where these cars are passing is the st. john's river. the big concern, as we've been
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talking about over and over again is storm surge. the idea that this river could potentially come up and flood this downtown jacksonville area. jacksonville has been designated by the mayor as several levels of flood danger in alphabetical order. a, b, c, d, through f. and where we are through the level of the water. and i don't know if you could see this, but looks as if the water is moving in all different of directions because of the way the wind and rain come down. this is level "a." this is the most dangerous area when it comes to potential for flooding and storm surge. this has been evacuated as well as other areas across the coast. you can see, as you cross over the bridge into downtown jacksonville, it's very quiet. you see a car every now and again, but what we will be watching for closely here, craig, this is not even close to as dangerous as they expect the wind and the rain to be.
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as we see the weather develop, time go on, certainly not safe to be here on the bridge and strange to say, as calm as it does out here. >> jacob soboroff in jacksonville, florida. and right now, we have in some ways a tale of two floridas. in melbourne where you've got folks walking around, surveying the damage here in melbourne. the mayor said they dodged a bullet, meanwhile, a lot of folks in other parts of florida that are bracing for the damage. gadi schwartz is in titusville, georgia, 40 miles north of where we are. one of the hardest hit areas. gadi? >> reporter: that's right. this community saying they dodged a bullet also. a category 3 bullet but a bullet nonetheless. you see homes that took the precautions and boarded up. the worse of the damage is that
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home over there, a bit of roof damage that a neighbor pointed out, but for the most part, it's pretty superficial. you could see an emergency crew just ahead there. they're working on clearing some debris from the roads. we have a little bit of standing water here, but for the most part, the homes have been somewhat protected. most of the trees we've seen have fallen away from homes. so far, we've surveyed about a few hundred homes and neighborhoods through here. we haven't seen any significant damage. craig? >> gadi schwartz there in t titusville. and jay johnson who runs homeland security. they just briefed president obama on hurricane matthew. again, a category 3 storm right now, again, president obama warning all of us that this storm is far from over. let's take a listen.
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>> obviously, everybody has been tracking the course of hurricane matthew, and i just received an update from our fema director, craig fugate as well as the rest of our national security team and i just wanted to make a couple of key points. first, what we're seeing now is matthew having moved above south florida and some of the largest population centers working its way north and the big concern that people are having right now is the effects that it could have in areas like jacksonville on through georgia and although we've seen some significant damage in portions of south
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florida, i think the bigger concern at this point is not just concenot hurricane force w but storm surge. i think you'll remember hurricane sandy where, initially, people thought this doesn't look as bad as we thought, and then suddenly, you get massive storm surge and a lot of people were severely affected, and so i just want to emphasize to everybody that this is still a really dangerous hurricane, that the potential for storm surge, flooding, loss of life and severe property damage continues to exist, and people continue to need to follow the instructions of their local officials over the course of the next 24, 48, 72 hours. those of you who led in georgia, they should be paying attention
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because there's been a lot of emphasis on florida but this thing is going to keep on moving north from florida into south carolina. there are large population centers there that could be vulnerable, so pay attention to what your local officials are telling you. if they tell you to evacuate, you need to get out of there and move to higher ground, because storm surge can move very quickly, and people can think that they're out of the woods and then suddenly get hit and not be in a position in which they and their families are safe. so pay attention to local officials. in the meantime, i've been in contact with the governors of all four of the potentially affected states. i want to thank them all for their leadership. there's been strong cooperation between federal and state and local officials. fema has worked diligently to preposition resources, assets,
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water, food, commodities, and as the hurricane moves north, what craig and his team will be doing is moving those resources and assets further north so that any place that happens to get hit badly will be in a position to immediately come in and help. but i really want to emphasize the governors who have been on top of this, state and local officials have been on top of this. they are the ones who are tracking most closely what is happening in your particular community, your particular area. you need to pay attention to them do, what they say. do not be holed up out here because we can always replace property, but we can't replace lives. i want to thank craig and his whole team as well as department of homeland security, my own national security team for really staying on top of this. we'll monitor this throughout
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the weekend. our thoughts and prayers are with folks who have been affected. even if the damage in south florida wasn't as bad as it could be, there are people who have been affected. for them, they'll need help. last point i'd like to make is we're still tracking what happened in areas like haiti that were hit more directly. haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world. it has consistently been hit and battered by a lot of natural disasters to compound what is already great poverty there. we know that hundreds of people had lost their lives and that there's been severe property damage and they're going to need help rebuilding. so i would ask all americans to go to the american red cross and other philanthropic agencies to
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make sure we are doing what we need to do to help people in need and we'll continue to provide information. if you're interested how you can help the people of haiti and others, go to and provide directions in terms of where even the smallest contribution can really make a big difference. all right? thank you very much, everybody. fema is in a good position right now. we had some concerns last year when we were in the midst of budget negotiations. i think we did a good job of making sure that fema was properly funded and not to make them blush, but we happened to have one of the best public servants in america. craig fugate and his team, they know how to manage money and use it effectively. that's not going to be an issue. of course, we always want to be
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cautious about making assessments with respect to damage. we're still on the front end of this hurricane. we're not on the back end. we don't know how bad the damage could end up. we don't know how severe the storm surge could end up being. and we're not going to know for three, four, five days what the ultimate effects of this are. if we end up having really significant problems and really severe property damage, then the staff comes into play the ability of emergency mechanisms more help to local governments. that's always going to be a question. as you know, we still have flooding in louisiana that has left a lot of people homeless. over 100,000 people have lost their homes will and we still have to rebuild.
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there is a backlog of need from natural disasters around the country that we would like hopefully during the lame duck session to figure out how to fund effectively. the issue is not so much fema's funding for immediate emergency response. the issue is going to be making sure that after the, you know, in this case, the hurricane, but in other cases, flooding or wildfires or other natural disasters, after they happen, are we in a position to properly help people rebuild? and we'll obviously make those assessments after the fact and then we'll talk to congress about how we can help out. all right? thank you everybody. thank you.
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i'm not going to the precinct. i'll probably do early voting. i'll fill out my form. don't worry. i'll be voting it. >> president obama there in the oval office with jay johnson, craig fugate there. president obama saying the concern, the worry right now should not be about the federal emergency management agency running out of money. the concern should instead be about the water we'll start seeing here in florida. there's also an update we can pass along to you in the last few minutes. the number of people without power, i told you at the top of the hour roughly 640,000 homes. that number has now jumped. 710,000 roughly. north of 710,000 people without power and again, we are expecting, we are expecting that number to climb as well. we'll check in with my colleague
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ron mott in daytona beach. earlier, i talked to the city's mayor. i talked to the mayor of melbourne. we heard there were some house fires as well. can you speak to that? >> i didn't know about that. >> we got word of a death in st. lucie county. >> oh, no. >> no casualties here in melbourne to speak of? >> not that i heard. i stay with my daughter in melbourne and we lost electricity. so i didn't see any news or anything like that, i'm sorry to hear about that. >> our city officials saying that the worst is behind us or? >> yes. it's behind us. i mean, it's slowly going north but we dodged a big bullet. so i'm real pleased. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing?
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we started this hour by
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checking in with ron mott in daytona beach where conditions have been deteriorating fairly rapidly. let's go back now to ron mott to check in. ron, how are things now? >> reporter: things are starting to fall off the hotel. beg your pardon if we spend most of the report looking for fine debris. we'll show you some of the damage. you can see the structure. not sure what it contains but most has fallen in the past two or three minutes. looks like it was mostly an entry way into the hotel but take a look up here on the ninth floor, craig. you can see some curtains hanging out here on the ninth floor. don't know if the glass has been blown into the room. don't know if that room is occupied by any of us or first responders, but clearly, that particular room has been breached and down on the fifth floor, you can't see it beyond this palm tree here, some of the
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siding has come off and so potential rainfall going into that room. now, this is a big hotel, a big sturdy hotel. the siding is going to come off. a lot of it has come off on the front side of the hotel. it's strewn across the driveway of the hotel. things are flying through the air now, so people need to stay hunkered down where they are. remark whether ably remarkably, i have seen people driving and there's no reason for anyone to take those kind of chances. you heard the president talk about, you can't restore life. all this property can be replaced and a lot of it will be replaced but we lose lives because someone wants to come out and see this and be a part of it. it's not only a tragedy, it's quite dumb, if i can use that word. let me show you, this is the major concern going forward here. the water is now standing for the most part near the seawall here. we're still two hours or so away from high tide. 12:45 when we hit the high tide.
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the projection is still 7 to 11 feet of storm surge. that could be catastrophic to 11 or 12 feet as governor rick scott has mentioned. so we've got another 4 or 5, 6 hours of really nasty weather here in the daytona beach area, craig? >> ron mott, take cover and be careful, my friend. bill karins waiting on that 11:00 a.m. update. we'll get an update on the hurricane matthew and check in with bill karins on the other side of the break.
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service. bill karins is standing by. what can you tell us? >> we got the new update in. as we were fearing, the forecast is actually worse now with a closer approach maybe in a landfall of areas right around south carolina. can our director put this picture up? the intensity on the other wall over here, still at a cat 3. so that's good. east/northeast. the eye is raking the daytona beach area. so here's the new forecast path and we'll also adjust these. these are just out. still category three but the turn may no longer be in time to avoid a landfall off of south carolina. definitely the eye, the northern eye and the western portion of the eye would move close to savannah through brunswick to the top of charleston and then
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may exit back to the south of the wilmington area. even though it's weakening at 85. the potential for power outages now greater in the wilmington area and myrtle beach more likely now. if we do get this landfall into charleston as a category 2 hurricane with 100-mile-per-hour winds, that would cause a lot of problems with wind damage in the charleston area and if we get the landfall with the storm surge out ahead of it on the northeast quadrant, we could talk about a huge storm surge, maybe comparison with hugo in the '80s. brand new update from the hurricane center. in daytona, same in jacksonville. not out of the woods yet either. savannah, we'll watch closely and continue to monitor this and dylan will take over here and give you the new unipdates from the national hurricane center. >> possible landfall in south carolina. that's the headline there.
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i remember hugo vividly. so many of the buildings in the city are so old, and because that city is susceptible to flooding. that's going to wrap up this hour. i'm craig melvin. i'll see you back here at 2:00. right now, tamron hall picks up our coverage. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall coming to you live from our msnbc headquarters in new york. a lot to get you caught up on. as we were just updated on hurricane matthew. breaking news coverage for you. matthew battering florida, central atlantic coast. daytona beach and nearby areas are feeling the impact of the storm which is sitting 5 to 1


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