tv Hardball With Chris Matthews MSNBCW October 11, 2016 11:30pm-12:01am PDT
but with men running, 80. forgive us we have to run. >> the party is over. let's play "hard ball." good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. four weeks to go and the republican party went on war. paul ryan yesterday said he would refuse to defend trump or even allow to be seen with him. trump didn't like it one bit saying despite winning the
second debate in a landslide it's hard when you get zero support. his members went wild at his loyalty. >> and with the exception of cheating bernie out of the nominating the democrats have been far more -- they don't know how to win, i will teach them. and trump is signaling he's done feigning restrain. it is so nice the shackles have been taken off me and i can now fight for america the way i want. in other words the next four weeks could be the wildest race in times. now from panama city beach, florida hally. this is the real guy back in
1998. when you think to yourself, didn't you know think he would know his past would follow him? >> when you said donald trump you have won every battle you ever fought, why don't you run for governor or? >> can you imagine how controversial i would be, how about him with the women? this what about me with the women? can you imagine? >> he new. knew his rep and his past and yet he put his head into the oven of this presidential campaign knowing in the end he would be stalked by the own reality of his past. >> reporter: he's run this entire campaign on he is who he is. let trump be trump. that's exactly what he has done for the last 15 months so i can
if i had to guess there was a sense of i am who i am i was who i was, he has flip flopped. the people don't care, the supporters around him don't. that's been one of the constants in the campaign is trump is going to trump. >> a very smart republican business guy says even if he looses 51-49 means that more than two in five voted for trump. let me ask you about this fight. it's a barroom brawl now. paul ryan, i'm not a big fan of him, he says i'm not going to be seen with the guy again, then he says okay, we're going to fight, i'm going to win this without you, i'm going to make you look stupid. john mccain, going into a boxing match in a back room with these
guys. >> reporter: listen, i talked to a top advisor of donald trump 30 minutes of that very issue, why pick these fights and the strategy is hey, it fits with going after washington and going after the establish. rather than doing it rhetorically, he's going to do it on twitter at hillary clinton starting with that debate saturday night and even over the debate over the weeks that this is something trump wants to do and he's going to fight d.c. >> but how does that get him to the white house? >> reporter: presumably the strategy seems to be you will rally the people around you that have supported you and potentially pick up more support. that's the big question mark, not to go just for the floor, he has 40% when you look at strategists, he's got to expands
his appeal, you saw him try to do that a little after the convention and sort of more straight laced somebody who shifted in that direction, the question is now will trump unleash or unshackled is that going to work? >> i don't think it will. thank you. however last night senator john mccain said he wouldn't vote for his party's nominee. >> it's not pleasant for me to renounce the nominee of my party. he won the nomination fair and square, but this is -- i have daughters. i have friends. i have so many wonderful people on my staff. they cannot be degraded and demeaned in that fashion. >> so who are you going to vote for?
>> i think i might write in lindsey graham. seriously i cannot vote for either one. >> today donald trump responded via twitter, you just heard. it doesn't get any worse, no, it does get worse and worse the very, very foul mouthed john mccain begged for my support during his primary, i gave, he won, then he dropped me over locker room remarks. >> michael steel, former chair of the national republican committee. both nbc analysts, i don't know that reince priebus has the capability to hold this party together. it's totally raw, you know, this isn't what we think of as a presidential election in my lifetime.
>> no, it isn't. it's kind of the trifecta, a base that's ticked off beyond measuring means every possible means at the party as a whole and principally at the leadership. you ever the political leadership as well as the executive and congressional leadership that's in disarray, have no idea which way to turn, to support, not support, turn away or away from and they have donald trump the party who doesn't really care. >> you and i are the same religion, a lot of people know it sam son and the temple they cut off his hair and brings down the temple. what do you make? it seems like sampson? >> he finds the strength to do that and one of those tweets was i will show you how to win.
i have the wherewithal to do this within me. i don't need you to do this and the party just doesn't know how to respond you have the chairman reince priebus, but doesn't have all to points to pull the party together. >> i don't know if you ever been in the dirty politics, but what is the trump strategy? >> it's based on bad information, paul ryan got 60le -- million votes. i know dana, he's an old friend. there are maybe five people who is going to get primaried. >> for what? >> he's going to get primaried because he's not in step of the caucus. >> but he's pretty far right.
>> he is but he's mad at paul ryan. mcconnell has the senate behind him. john thun came out against him. i would urge mr. trump to recalibrate and treat this as a temporary separation not a irreprehensible divorce. >> who is head right now. >> paul ryan. >> and if you had a vote -- >> paul ryan. >> republican voters -- >> paul ryan. >> i don't know if his name i.d. is that high. do you think the guy right now is the head of the republican party rank and file? >> yes, he is. i show you rank and file republicans across the nation know who paul ryan is, they'll-they have followed his career, the proposals that put out. >> is could he have beaten trump for the nomination?
>> you know, that's a very interesting question. >> that's the question i just put to you. >> given that paul ryan was the nominee before, i think he would have had a great deal more cache. >> wouldn't he have carried the flag for this sort of brexit type anger that people have over immigration and stupid wars would he have been that leader? >> i think he would have been because i think he fundamentally understands it he's seen what happened to other people in their districts. >> they both -- donald trump has as a lot of very passion noter earnest people for him. you have to make a choice been asking donald trump or paul
ryan, you call paul ryan. >> with his running meat mike pence, one supporter -- running mate mike pence, one supporter said she was "ready for a revolution" if he loses. >> one of the biggest things we're scared of is this voter fraud. our lives depend on this election. our kids' futures depend on this election. i will tell you for me, and i don't want this to happen, but i will at the you personally from me, if hillary clinton gets in i'm ready for a revolution. >> yeah, don't say that. >> but i'm just saying that, no, you know, i'm like trump. am i not speaking for people here? am i not speaker for the people here? >> you will see a revolution on november 8th i promise you.
>> what do you mean revolution? armed conflict against the government? what are we talking about here? this sounds like second amendment stuff here and he was like no, i'm not going to go along with crazy stuff. >> with donald trump threatening to be putting hillary clinton in jail, sounding more authoritarian, his -- many sleep-aids have pain medicine but zzzquil is different because why would you take a pain medicine when all you want is good sleep? zzzquil: a non-habit forming sleep-aid that's not for pain, just for sleep.
crooked hillary clinton oh, she's crooked folks, these crooked as a $3 bill. lock her up is right. that's donald trump last night. welcome back to "hardball" calling for hillary clinton to be locked up. chants that become increasingly familiar at his rallies, "lock her up." it comes after he said he would elect a special prosecutor if he becomes president and have his way and her in jail. >> i hate to say it, but if i win, i am going to instruct my
attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation because there's never been so many lies, so much deception, there has never been anything like it and we're going to have a special prosecutor. >> you know, it's awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> yeah, because you would be in jail. >> but his legal specialist told "the new york times" trump's pledge represents the rule of law suggesting he would strip power from the institutions that normally invest the law instead of himself that make democracy so resilient. and -- fwl it smaks of what we read about tin-point dictators in other parties of the world.
>> and michael mukasey said it would make us "look like a banana republic". suggesting multiple times on the campaign trail that it would be rigged if he loses. i'm joined by jeremy from "the new york times." this kind of crack pot kind of politics if i win i'll jail her if i lose it was rigged. there's no more arguments if i lose it was rigged if i win she goes to jail because she deserves to go to jail, and it means that it's not just that he's president but that he's the -- >> it's not just enough that hillary clinton be defeated,
he's going to go after her that he's going to throw her in jail. this is totally consistent with his other assertions of opening up liable law or this judge that he called not fair because he's mexican. >> is what strikes me is the way he relished in saying he would put her in jail. we're like the frog in the pot. it keeps getting hotter and that's just a little worse than what he said yesterday or two days ago. >> it's this possibility that republicans keep promising, they're angry, and keep saying we're going to repeal obamacare and 64 tries and that's because
election diary tuesday october 11th, 2016, it's no surprise to any one of you that i love politics. it's for what it is, how it's made this country great. we don't look at presidency on the policy alone, the person who attracts us, there's fdr, hair -- harry truman, and children and grandchildren will write about and argue about. there's a respect for the country, the office, the constitution our democratic system and where we have failed we have kept notice of that, too, but have loved our democracy for sure, donald trump has made it clear he does not. he relishes the idea of being a dictator, this kind of talk of putting hillary clinton in jail and isn't the talk of the locker
room but third world dictators, it shows up in the country's name. there's no democracy, they're run by strong men in the interest of strong men, in other words bullies. al gore accepted defeat, more people in florida he accepted even though we knew he had 600,000 more votes. does anyone listening to donald trump especially the last couple of days would do what al gore did? even richard nixon back in 1960 refuse today challenge the election results because of what the division would do to our country, does anyone think donald trump would do the same?
>> i think it's important that we let trump be trump. >> tonight new poll numbers. a new down ballot reality and new concerns about donald trump damages going beyond the republican party. >> for me personally, if hillary clinton gets in, i myself, i'm ready for a revolution because we can't have her in. >> yeah. don't say that. >> i'm just saying it. >> plus more trump tape fallout. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> the conservative uprising against gop leadership for refusing to disavow trump. meanwhile, in florida. >> your vote, really, really, really counts. a lot. >> team clinton calls in backup to avoid repeating history and "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. with four weeks to the day until the election, the republican party's nominee for president has declared open war on the republican party.