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thank you, tamron. right now on andrea mitchell reports, family feud. they're weak and effective people, senators and others, and paul ryan. i wouldn't want to be in a foxhole. >> from russia with love. today vladimir putin says russia has no interest in tacking the democrats, but hillary clinton's campaign manager says the timing of the wick i leaks just after the damaging "access hollywood"
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tape was released points to the kremlin trying to help donald trump. >> there's no way of knowing. i'm just saying it's an awfully cureual coincidence that it happened virtually as soon as the water temperature was moving to a boil. >> and presidential fitness test in battleground north carolina, the campaigner in cheer taking on the republican nominee. >> he doesn't have the temperament or the judgment or the knowledge or parent the desire to obtain the knowledge or the basic honesty that a president needs to have. >> the guy says stuff that nothing would find it toll rabbit if they were applying for a it job at 7-eleven. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in new york, off the road, the news starts in florida
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where i was last night where a cord has ruled -- past today's deadline, siding with the democrats who argumented that people evacuated need more time. the ruling is a set back to governor rick scott. trump is in florida today after firing more shots at house they speaker paul ryan. they sent a clear mefr to skeptical republicans. >> enough of the putty footing around in terms of do you support us or not? the fact is that, you know, some of these leaders ver wishy-washy. >> kelly o'donnell, first to you, you had the big interview with mike pence, clearly mike
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pence is trying to stand with his man despite the fact that donald trump is just savages his fellow republican leaders. >> it was interesting, because has stood up for other republican leaders. he has been the earlier on in the campaign season when hi first joined the ticket to try to get people on board, and he's been trying to step the bleeding where there's been eruptions of controversy. here at liberty university, with a packed house of students he was given a pitch for those who consider themselves faithful christian conservatives, and he used the phrase, this is not a time to fling.
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and concerns they have between a trump/pence administration and a clinton/kaine administration. he spot at greater length to his opposition to abortion. that is not always something he talks about on the campaign trail, and he tried to assure students here that donald trump would also hold those same views. we now that topic for donald trump has been treacherous grounds at times for some of the things he's said. for mike pence, he's been trying to say to republican leaders he is disappointed if they won't support and thinks they need to get on board, but he's doing it in a way that's lower volume than we have come to see from donald trump. really trying to say it's
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counterproductive, unhelpful to the party. i was struck when i asked him about the party being in crisis and having some internal disintegration, and he said he's not spending that much time about thinking about the at the party, but the country. that's pretty telling. >> and jason, we have a new poll out today from utah of all places. you can't get much more republican than utah. it shows a tied race in a fourway race. now coincidentally the clinton campaign recently put out a new campaign ad targeting mormons, the theory being that mormons who are a minority in america are very sensitive to some of the discriminatory things that donald trump has said along the trail and that there was a real reaction, the mormon community in utah and nevada and other places. jacob? >> reporter: this is a stunning
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poll, largely because it was as recently as last month that polls had him up there 15, 20 points. for him to now be tied with clinton and noticeably as well, evan mcmullen, the independent candidate up to 22% in this poll above gary johnson is stunning. .salt lake tribune also endorsed hillary clinton, but in their closing graph in their editorial, they said the republicans in utah have a strong chance and opportunity here to sent a message to the republican party to turn their backs on trump iism. noticeably as well, you'll remember, "the deseret news" distanced themselves publicly from donald trump and said the correct choice was hillary clinton in this case. it is stunning for such a reliably republican state. noticeably as well, today we
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don't expect donald trump to go after hillary clinton -- or i'm sorry -- go after paul ryan and the republican leadership. we do expect him to go after hillary clinton and have his focus squarely on her only. andrea? >> thank you, jacob. alex seitzwald, as you know, the democrats are feeling buoyant, to say the least, ever since what happened on friday with the embarrassing, damaging "access hollywood" tape. at the same time wikileaks, they have some hurdles -- i don't know what analogy you want to use. it hasn't gotten as much attention as it might out if donald trump wasn't in this civil war. >> it's a distraction, if nothing else.
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wick wikileaks could continue to release them, be a low-level nuisance, or potential big -- when we saw the transcripts of the speech that is hillary clinton gave that she refused to release during the primary campaign with bernie sanders. and donald trump this morning shaming the media for not coverings they wikileaks more p. everybody against him, the clinton campaign, the media, the republican establishment, and you know, he's trying to turn the focus a bit away. >> where they now see he opportunities now they have, thanks to the judge, more days to try to register voters, north carolina is where the president was, that is a state that the president lost last name
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narrowly, and if they either florida or north carolina, they can totally block any path that donald trump would have to 270 electoral of course. the basic thing is they have many options to get to 270, donald trump has few. now when you have polls like this coming out in utah, georgia, arizona, you have major super-pacs backing the presidential election thinking about playing in the senate race, because they feel like they can go on offense. heading into colorado, nevada, two days obama won, that's all about early voting which starts next week. alex seitz-wald. and joining me notice is monica langley. you have a great inside account of how he decided on this scorched earth, and how he
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decided to bring those women to the debate. >> obviously the individual i don't really set them back. that's when friday night he and his advisers decided now is the time. they had held this in reserve since the first debate when he performed badly. now with his polling going down and release of the video, they decided it's time. >> which advisers? there are consent rick circling around donald trump, and then there's a decider in chief. clearly he listens to his own drummer. only five of the top advisers knew the women were going to come to the debate. they wanted to keep it under wraps, no leaks. the top advisers are steve bannon, kellyanne conway, and jared kushner, his sony married to eva-- son-in-law married to ivan ivanka. i would say the two people
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closest to donald trump are steve bannon and jared kushner. they're the ones that have his ear most prominently. when they tried to put this into play, they came back with a comeback plan, which is my page 1 story in "wall street journal" today details. the comeback plan is too part. it's very tricky and also requires donald trump to be error-free, which is a big if when you deal with him. the first one is they have got to suppress the hillary clinton democratic vote. they're going to do that by, as you just said earlier in the program hitting hillary clinton as hard as they can to make the democrats that they believe it's a weak coalition for her, to make democrats not even want to vote for her. >> to bring up her negatives. >> that's right. and they believe she has a loose coalition. they don't bled the african american and millennial votes
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don't want to come out strong for her. then they want to fire up their base. that's part of why he's attacking the republican leaders who have come out against him. because they believe that the republican base thinks the republican leadership isn't even for them. by attacking them, that plays to his base. >> let me play devil's advocate here. i would completely understand -- i get the firing up of his base, and a lot of the hate frankly that's spewing out and organi organizers now being organize the by steppe and showing up at hillary clinton's event, but i don't get how he expands on his base with this strategy. frankly if he thinks the way he is dismissing he andrea, they
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have basically given up on he expanding that he knows his hey to solidify hi base. he believes his base is so much more enthusiastic and her base is less enthusiastic for her. that's the way the math will work, they're not focused only on the battleground states and this is not a nationwide campaign for donald trump, and that's their very narrow path. >> monica, great reporting, as always. thank you so much. it's another day and another wikileaks dump. podesta drew a direct drin to
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trump confidant roger stone and moscow. >> stone pointed his finger at me and said that the -- i could expect some treatment that would expos me and ultimately said -- sent out a tweet that said it would be my time in the barrel. i think it's a reasonable assumption to -- or at least a reasonable conclusion that mr. stone had advance and the trump campaign had advance warning about what assange was going to do. >> "new york times" political reporter amy chozik was on that flight along with me and other reporters, and is here with me now. amy, podesta has no doubt, based on the intelligence briefing
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that the russians are involved at some level, and what he said was the coincidence of timing. what's happening electric electorally rather donald trump. >> the campaign would certainly like to make that connection. the fbi is investigating russian intelligence being involved in the dnc hacks that happened during the convention and other election related hacking that they believe is designed by the russians. that being said, they have not pointed to ssk elves that the russians were behind the hack of john podesta's e-mails.
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we have to be caution until the fbi confirming who is responsible. the timing is curious as soon as the "access hollywood" video posted, this was the first dump of john podesta's eme-mails. the other thing they pointed out is roger attorney had tweeted in mid august that john podesta would be next in the barrel. >> roger stone has tweeted a lot of things to a lot of people. >> and we haven't drawn that direction connection to donald trump, either. a firmer adviser and longtime associate, but what is the current relationship? >> i think they're close. i think they talk every couple weeks. he listen toss roger stone's advise certainly when he brought up bill clinton's infidelity. roger stone med with julian
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asang at one point, but what podesta was trying to draw with the tweet i think is tenuous. we haven't quite made that connection yet. >> you've been going through all of these, we've been reading as much as we can as we fly around madly on the rather crowded 737 -- >> without great wifi. >> without great wifi. middle seats and all the rest. but what do we see as the smoking guns, if you will, in these e-mails? it is an incredible, rich narrative of what was going on during the primaries. >> it's incredible insight, but this is in the midst of a campaign where we're getting inside into their thinking. we haven't seen a smoking gun, as journalists, we have to be cautious. they dumps sometimes happen and everything is authentic until
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something -- and he end of the date it was an illegal breach, and certainly we haven't seen anything, as the trump campaign would like to be that sort of spiking gun. >> what podesta was saying last night, and this is from the perspective every campaign chairman, but also a victim, this is stolen property. he was hacked. he's not saying they were his, but certainly he says he can't authenticate them and the russians have started out with authentic documents, and then changed our altered documents and given -- this is a very fist indicated intelligence op. >> right. at the same time we don't know it's taken out of the contest. yesterday donna brazil, well-known democratic operative. at the time she was a cnn contributor and panelist. there's an e-mail that says i've been giving some access to some
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questions, and because of the timing, everyone inferred, and this is what the republicans watched everyone to believe, is she was given questions in advance of of a cnn town hall meeting, and then was sharing that with the hillary clinton people, not with the bernie sanders people. in fact that's not true. not only did she deny it and cnn deny it, but in fact she was given narrative story lines for the cnn panel they were doing, and according to tad devine, she was in constant contact with him, sharing the same information. she was a democrat representing democratic candidates on the cnn panel. it was not at all what it was advertised to be. >> no, and i think that's why we have to approach these things as something that needs greater reporting. you cannot just go on what you see in the e-mails. and to your point, all our news rooms are in a brave new world. if burglars had broken into the
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brooklyn headquarters and stolen physical files, saying there were scoops, we probably would give that more thought, so i think you saw podesta all cautioning us to make clear this was an illegal breach. these are tools, but they need confirmation. >> by the way, ten years of e-mails. that's stunning. >> 50,000 e-mails. that's a lot of reading to do. >> thank you so much. stay with me a moment just to watch this. a moment that has to be seen to be appreciated. you may remember the anti-putin protesters in many moscow, the rock band -- crist yawn amanpour had the guts to ask a. >> russia had its own putty riot
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support. if he -- this happens all the time. if you sneeze, he calls up and announces. isn't that a terrible thing? i don't want his support. i don't care about his support. >> donald trump lashing out at paul ryan and fellow republicans. the party now in crisis mode, as trump proclaims that the shackles are off. i didn't even know they were ever on. dave, it's great to see you. you're deeply rooted in iowa, so we want to ask you about iowa, the one battleground state where the clinton people feel they have a big edge. first, what about him going nucle nuclear. >> well, i think it's a fundamental misunderstanding of where the election should be right now. he's never been able to leave behind the rhetoric and the sort of sentiment that he brought to the primary. you can see now how that's playing out. if you look in florida, where
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he's running well behind hillary clinton and marco rubio is still leading his race, he talks about how well he did in florida in the primary, you have to change gears. it's a trick he couldn't learn. we're leave where we're left, every man for themselves, and you have a lot of members of congress have been to break away and run on his own. i think voxd. or the vice news caught up with john boehner, former speaker on the golf course, where a lot of republicans i would guess wish they were right now. this is what he had to say. >> he's not a conservative. he's barely a republican. he kind of became a republican in order to run, but, you know, his ideas, when you can get to them are frankly more in the direction that i would want the country to go to more than hillary clinton.
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i like hillary clinton. i've known her a long time. she's not a bad person, but more of the policies we have seen out of the obama administration. while donald wasn't my first choice, wasn't my second choice, for that matter he wasn't my third choice, but he's the nominee, and i'm going to vote for him. >> what happens in the house? the senate is teetering, and we can see a clear path to democrats taking over. if this becomes a wave, if there aren't any further missteps oar revelations, and hillary clinton builds a lead, is there a way you can see the house going democratic? >> i think that's hard to predict right now. i don't think you can see the house switching at this point. the way the districts are drawn these days, you know, there are not a lot of districts that are swing districts anymore. they're dark red or dark blue.
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yes, waves happen. we saw them in 2006, and obviously in 2010, and in the senate in 2014. i'm not sure what we're watching here is a defining wave event. i think we're seeing a candidate on the republican side, who is requiredually collapsing in front of us, yet we see, you know, if you look at ohio, how rob port marn is doing, marco rubio, kelly ayotte is still in a deadlock, and i think she can be successful. boehner makes a good point in that clip about trump not being a republican. i think you can separate the republican message, the republican brand from him. he wants everything to be about him, which is how he's running the campaign. if he were doing this the right way, he would be making the campaign about the issues like john boehner said or making it more about hillary clinton. i think he's tried somewhat, but he can't help 1/2self. he simply has to have things about him, it's the way his
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career has been structured. when you come up in reality television, you're all about being renewed. the more time you turn over the dining room table or throw a beer in your face, you create more controversy and you get renewed. that's his training for this, yet it doesn't work in politics, when you have to have a team effort. that is why i think that's where we are, and i don't think the house is threatened. i think that's why paul ryan said what he said the other day, which is to give members permission to go out and run their own campaign. mike kaufman in august did the right thing saying i don't truth either one of them, and i'll be a check on hillary clinton in the white house. i think that was the campaign to run, but we're pretty late in the game for this. i think he needs to be focused more on his race and hillary clinton, not worried about tweeting angry tie raids at the speaker and at john mccain and whoever else he feels has offended him in the last 24
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hours. >> in a word, iowa, still trump-land? trump territory? >> iowa falls right into his demographic sweet spot. 97% white, only 27 or 28% college graduates. it's a demographic targets for him that really works. i think the last week or ten days has probably changed the trajectory. i would have said he would win it by fik or six a week ago, and now probably it's anybody's guess. some say ohio as well, but the trends are not working in his favor right now. i still think he could win iowa. >> a man from iowa, thank you so much. um canning up, house of cards? more on those house races, we'll be right back. i'm re in bristol, virginia. and now...i'm in bristol, tennessee. on this side of the road is virginia... and on this side
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leaders has left republican candidates for the house and senate twisting in the wind of joininging me is david wasserman. david, thanks so much. i was just talking to dave kuchel, whether the house could turn, and no one had ever even expected this to be a possibility. what do you see? >> well, is it impossible? no, but it's still pretty tough. we only rate 37 districts as competitive today, but only 9% of the house, so we're talking about a narrow trading range. they would still fall a dozen seats short. so is it time for republicans to throw trump under the bus? i think that's probability a wise strategy on their part, but other than the, you know, i think irony of this situation is that the republicans who have
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distanced themselves the farthest are likely to lose their seats. they're in those they've lost the trump base, and the not separated themselves -- >> i think there are some cases where you do have republicans who have not redownsed trumps. >> and issa has been a reliable trump booster, so he could actually be one of the more surprising close races of 2016.
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i think we have some sounds from that. >> i moved in here like a -- i couldn't get there, and she was married. >> when you're a star, can you do anything. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. >>. >> announcer: the disabled reports. >> i don't know what i said, i don't you remember. >> announcer: mike gallagher says we still have to support trump. no, we don't. we don't have to support mike gallagher, either. so that is the most classic case. >> that's -- this is a part of wisconsin that did not vote for donald trump in the primaries where he was weak in the summer, but republican voters in the
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polling we saw tended to come home. that gave the republicans in that race an advantage. we'll see what the polls show in the next couple weeks, but democrats had a lot of gap to close there. the reverberations of what donald trump and the fallout from his tape could be could really last beyond november. keep in mind, if democrat it is pick up 10 to 15 or perhaps 20 seats, even if they fall short of a majority, paul ryan has far less margin for error, entering 2017. the first question is, would he want to be speaker, and numb be two, could he be reelected as speaker if enough republicans hold him responsible for clinton winning. he could potential need to relies on democratic votes to keep his job. >> which would be an uncomfortable place, instead. thanks so much, david, this is a year unlike any i have ever
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just no me, and i don't want this to happen, but i will tell you, for me personally, if hillary clinton gets in, i myself, i'm ready for a revolution, because we can't have her in. >> yeah, don't say that. >> i'm just saying that. you know, i'm like trump, you know, i might no -- am i not saying the truth, guys? >> there's a revolution coming on november 8th. >> a deeply troubling moment on the campaign trail for mike pence in iowa on tuesday. another sign of how deeply divided voters are this year. turning chris cillizza, and nick confessore are joining me. the headline are that democrats
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are doing better in the bulk of these states in early absentee voting than republicans. i can break down some of the analysis from target smart. you can see there on the chart the states in this, in these battleground states, as of october 11th more democratic affiliated voters have cast early battle in iowa, michigan, north carolina, virginia, and wisconsin, the only two states where republicans have cost more early votes are florida and georgia. now, you cannot infer from this how they are voting, because obviously people don't always vote their party label, but it's definitely good news for democrats that have been working hard. odes chris, what is your takeaway? >> look, i think you're right with the caveats you offer.
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i offer another one. democrats tend to focus more on banks those early ones, but typically we would say that early vote is some indicator. it's not the whole indicator, but a piece of the indicator of organization. what we know broadly generally speaking is that hillary clinton has invested significantly more time, money and human capital, people, in building operations to get out the vote than has donald trump. so turnout doesn't win you an election that's not close, but in a close election in a state, it can, a good turnout operation. what we know on the numbers, is she has a superior one. >> nick, donald trump really going after hillary clinton last night -- late last night in florida. he did not repeat his attacks last night on the republicans. he's targeting hillary clinton
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going after wikileaks and what they're gathering from the hacking of john podesta's emates inch it's a last-ditch effort to sow -- but the the democrats are actually getting jazzed up to turn out and vote. i think the scandal for donald trump over his behavior and his abuses toward women could not have come at a worse time. what the early voting shows you, andrea, is it is not just election day on the 8th. it is a rolling election day for weeks and weeks. when you have a terrible span of news cycles it's going to impact you on november 8 in ways you can't predict because it affects how people vote. it seems people are turned off by trump and are coming out to vote as democrats. >> president obama on the campaign trail in north carolina. no better advocate for hillary clinton. chris cillizza? >> the only person who might be is his wife. president obama is enjoying some of the highest popularity of his
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term. i think we have not seen a situation like this since bill clinton. al gore didn't handle it well, but you have a sitting popular incumbent president. this isn't george w. bush and john mccain in 2008. barack obama is popular, over 50% favorable ratings. having him on the campaign trail, he can reach younger voters which hillary clinton has a problem with. he can motivate african-american and hispanic voters, as he's shown in the past two elections. when you have a sitting president over 50% favorable rating you want that person on the campaign trail if you are arguing that he's done a good job and i can do more of the same which is at the heart of hillary clinton's argument. >> chris cillizza and nick coffessore, thank you so much. early voting has begun in the crucial swing state of ohio. chris jansing is there here on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc, the place for politics. and i know a thing or two about trading.
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as we were just saying barack obama has been, if not for michelle obama the most effective surrogate for hillary clinton. the president was in north carolina, a key state that the democrats would like to win. he himself didn't win it in 2012. here's part of what he had to say last night. >> the fact that now you've got people saying, well, we strongly disapprove. we really disagree. we find those comments disgusting. but we're still endorsing him. we still think he should be president. that doesn't make sense to me. >> meanwhile in the battleground state of ohio early in-person voting is under way. four years ago nearly a third of ohio's voters cost their ballots before election day. nbc's chris jansing is at the cuyahoga board in cleveland. i know how to pronounce that and i know it's your hometown.
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you are the queen of cleveland. there you are at a ballot place. tell us about the early voting which started today. >> reporter: it's been surprisingly busy. i can tell you i just talked to the director. he's been surprised at the number of people who turned out. a big part of this is clearly the ground game of the clinton campaign. they have been in 53 counties. none with a harder push than cuyahoga county. it's cleveland, critical for them to run up the black vote. the more things change, the things that stay the same is the demographic of the cities where hillary clinton wants to have a big turn out and to off set some of the surprising gains that donald trump made in places like the mahoning valley in youngstown and places hit hard by the deindustrialized economy. they have had, i don't know, 500, 600 people today.
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i was with mitt romney's campaign in 2012. they thought he had ohio when he thought he had the presidency won. he actually did win. they were right about the exit polls. he did win ohio. barack obama brought up such a large advantage in the early voting thatwinning the state, andrea. >> that's what they hope to duplicate this time. thanks for the report from ohio. more ahead. if you have medicare
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