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her opponent cannot fight off the aspect of a fighter hanging on in the late rounds determined to finish the bout with as much pieces of his pride that he can rescue. that's "hardball" right now. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> i didn't need to do this, believe me. this is work. >> donald trump stares down defeat. >> win, lose or draw, i will be happy with myself. >> defeat stumbles, sliding in the pols and a lighthearted dinner turning the ugly. >> that's okay. i don't know who they're angry at, hillary, you or i. >> plus -- >> we've got the best people. >> bombshell testimony in the bridgegate trial. what christie knew before the lane closures began. >> i had no knowledge or involvement in this issue, in its planning or its execution. >> then, are there hidden trump
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supporters? >> i've been talking about it for months, the undercover trump voter. >> why others argue trump is overperforming in the polls. and a look at the campaign's closing arguments. >> but we know in our country the difference twoen leadership and dictatorship, right? >> "all in" starts right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. after the most humiliating 48 hours of his campaign, it appears donald trump is actually starting to reconcile himself to the likely outcome on november 8th. the republican nominee almost sounded wistful as he talked about continuing to campaign for the next 18 days, vowing to leave it all on the field. >> i don't know what kind of shape i'm in, but i'll be happy and at least i will have known, win, lose or draw, and i'm almost sure if the people come out, we're going to win, but i
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will be -- i will be happy with myself, as i always said. i don't want to think back, if only i did one more rally, i would have won north carolina by 500 votes instead of losing it by 200 votes, right? if only i did. so i never want to ever look back. i never want to say that about myself. >> for the record, trump is now an average of 2 1/2 points behind clinton in north carolina, a state mitt romney won four years ago. clinton has led every single poll there for the past month, about 13 in all. and trump's new perspective on the race follows back-to-back humiliations. first, his performance in the final debate drawing bipartisan condemnation for refusing to commit to abiding by the result of the election, a foundational principle of american democracy. and what has to be one of the most excruciating experiences of his life. absolutely bombing at the al smith dinner. practically getting booed off
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the stage by an audience of clergy member, manhattan socialites from new york, trump's home state. something of a tradition for presidential candidates, it provides an opportunity to poke fun at themselves and their rivals while showing off a sense of humor. but trump included too many nasty barbs unleavened by humor and the audience just wasn't having it. >> we learned so much from wikileaks. for example, hillary believes that it's vital to deceive the people by having one public policy and a totally different policy in private. that's okay. i don't know who they're angry at, hillary, you or i. for example, here she is tonight in public pretending not to hate catholic catholics. clinton, on the other hand, struck the lighthearted tone expected at the al smith dinner, if canned in places.
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still landing a few sharp blows on her opponent. >> people look at the statue of liberty and they see a proud symbol of our history as a nation of immigrants, a beacon of hope for people around the world. donald looks at the statue of liberty and sees a four. maybe a five if she loses the torch and tablet and changes her hair. >> look at some of this morning's headlines of the event, just brutal reviews of trump's performance. trump was greeted with even more bad news. showing that hillary clinton was the decisive winner of wednesday night's third and final debate. it's pretty much across the board in every single scientific poll taken after three of the presidential debates, voters said clinton won the night. every single one. nevertheless, trump tweeted in the results are in on the final debate and it's almost unanimous. i won. thank you. these are very exciting times.
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the response from the clinton campaign, where was this kind of comedy last night? even after trump's debacle of the past days, so many of the structural forces were already aligned against him. his campaign has been trying to play catch-up, investing more in tv ads than voter targeting. the campaign spent more than it raised. finishing the month with $34.8 million cash on hand, that's significantly less than the clinton campaign had on hand at the end of the month. and just over half of what mitt romney had at the same point in 2012. trump had just 168 paid campaign staff by the end of september compared to almost five times that much, 815 paid staff on the clinton campaign. today that number is even smaller. trump just lost his national political director, longtime political operative jim murphy who told politico he hasn't resigned but for personal reasons has had to step back from the campaign three weeks before election day. i'm joined by michael burgess,
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republican from texas and trump supporter and congressman. one of your colleagues in the house delegation of texas had to say about trump's nasty woman line in the debate which some people found rankled. this is congressman brian babben speaking about that moment. take a listen. >> he called her a nasty woman. is that appropriate? >> you know what? she's saying some nasty things. >> you think it's appropriate to call her a nasty woman? >> well, i'm a genteel southerner, alan. >> so that means no? >> no, i think sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's being nasty. >> oh, really? >> i do. >> congressman, you agree that sometimes a woman needs to be told when she's being nasty? >> you know what? that's the first time i've heard that. i really don't have a comment on that discussion. >> do you think nasty woman was an appropriate term? >> look, this has been a tough campaign. and some tough things have been said on both sides, but that's the way it is.
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this is a big job that requires someone being all in, as they say. you know what i mean? >> i do. well done. but do you think it was an appropriate term? >> it's not a term i would have used. >> okay. let me ask you this. what do you make of all this rigged election talk? >> look, here's what i do know, chris. 75% of the country says we're going in the wrong direction. this is a change election. you can layer it on all you want about how great hillary's doing and how badly donald is doing, but this is the reason why we're actually going to have the election. people i talk to, pretty disturbed about the direction of things. they've got a $20 trillion debt. did you hear the news? $580 billion deficit for the last fiscal year. that's on top of some of the largest tax collections that have ever happened. and what did we get for that money? where are the new schools?
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where are the new roads? people are asking themselves these questions. we're in tough shape in this country. we've had 1% growth, 1% growth for the last 18 months. that's not a jobs program. >> congressman, it's interesting you talk about the debt, right? because donald trump hasn't been particularly concerned about the debt and the independent scoring of his program shows that it would increase debt by far, far more, 160%, i believe, is the correct figure than hillary clinton's. he's got massive tax cuts which are three times the size of george bush. today he's in pennsylvania talking about on top of that also a big infrastructure program, doesn't want to cut medicare or social security, also wants to increase money for the military. if there's one thing donald trump doesn't seem to care about, it's debt and deficits. >> i disagree. i mean, i think he has spoken about that and spoken consistently. >> but the numbers don't add up. >> here's the happy part of this equation whether it's donald
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trump or hillary clinton in the white house, all these proposals will, will come through the united states congress. tax policy will originate in the house of representatives. it doesn't just happen at the white house. >> but you just said before, which i think is key, is that your sense is that it's a change election because people are worried about the deficit. >> people are worried -- people are worried -- >> donald trump -- >> people are worried up and down about -- they're certainly concerned about the status of national security. certainly concerned about the fact that we've not secured our southern border -- >> if they're so worried about change in the red state of texas, how is it the case that the latest poll out of the university of houston has trump up by just three points in your home state, a deep, deep red state where republicans dominate every level of government and a democrat hasn't won statewide since ann richards. >> chris, that's a houston poll. things that come out of houston oftentimes baffle me. >> it's a university of houston
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poll. >> trump's going to win texas and he's going to win texas big. just mark that down and we'll visit about it after the election. >> do you think he'll win it by more than mitt romney? >> i think it will be a similar amount. >> we'll have you back after the election to see where we end up on that, congressman michael burgess. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. >> joining me majority report podcast. sam, i thought -- you know, there's a sort of -- there's two ways this could go, as we head into these final days. first of all, nothing's over. anything can happen. things can change. polls can be wrong. people cannot turn out, et cetera. but donald trump can sort of lash out increasingly or we can see him shrink over the next few weeks. i saw him at the event today and the jenna johnson writeup in "the washington post" made me think maybe we'll just see more of the latter. >> yeah, that was very whimsical. i mean, that's the type of thing that i think you would anticipate him saying in a therapy session if he had one.
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i mean, my sense was that during the debate when he announced that he'd keep everybody in suspense as to whether or not he would acknowledge the results of the election is he's building a narrative. to me, regardless of how he spends the next 18 day ks, on the 19th day, he's going to continue what he's doing. and i don't think he's going to stop. there's a sort of great sense that once the election is over, donald trump goes away. i don't think he stops. i think his schedule gets a little bit lighter. but there's no reason to believe he's going to stop with this narrative. >> that moment last night in the al smith dinner was interesting. because the country has been subjected to these debates in which donald trump has strategically and intentionally attempted to humiliate, degrade, debase hillary clinton to belittle her, to shrink her. and here was this sort of ritual opportunity to sort of do that if you do it with enough humor. and this just totally visceral rejection of it by the people in
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the room and everyone that i know that was watching. >> yeah. i mean, he didn't -- he wasn't making jokes. i mean, there's just too much anger there. and i think to a certain extent, it speaks to the argument that hillary clinton has been making that this guy doesn't have the temperament to be president. i mean, you know, this is a diplomatic setting. obviously, it's not international diplomacy. but it's one where you have to balance who you're speaking to. and he didn't seem to have any ability to do that. and so it just sort of reinforced this narrative and i guess people there didn't appreciate it. >> do you think we are going to see -- are we going to see a kind of backlash amongst trump voters down the stretch towards the republican party? because that's the thing we started to see brewing. and it's so powerful that ryan and mcconnell, it was so notable to me, neither of them issued a statement after this routine condemnation around the horn for that moment when he refused to accept the results.
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i think that's going to intensify and in some ways the anger will be directed most at them. >> well, i think it's going to be a function of what trump's strategy is. as he comes to grips with the idea that he's going to lose the election if that happens, certainly the numbers point to that, he's going to have this two-pronged strategy, to dele t delegitimize a hillary clinton. rebecca trace had a great tweet that in some ways this is the birther movement 0.2, i guess. this the way that he's going to attempt to delegitimize the clinton presidency, but he also has to -- you know, he's been hinting at this sort of stabbed in the back narrative. i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't start to speak more of that as we get closer to the election. >> sam seder who for reasons i can't quite get my head around is still in las vegas lo these many days after the debate. >> what stays here stays here, right?
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we've got the best people. >> i know the best people. i know the best managers. i know the best dealmakers. i have the most dedicated people. i have the best people. i have the best people. >> the so-called best people that donald trump has surrounded himself with at different points include current campaign ceo steve bannon who boasted he turned the website breitbart into the platform for the right. roger ailes resigned amid allegations of sexual harassment. former campaign manager corey lewandowski who grabbed a female reporter though was not prosecuted and rudy giuliani seen here not enjoying hillary clinton's jokes at the dinner
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last night. who falsely accused clinton of lying about where she was on september 11th and has been known to spread unsubstantiated conspiracy theories about her health. maricopa county sheriff joe arpaio currently trailing badly in his re-election campaign who faces a justice department criminal contempt charge for violating a court order to stop immigration patrols that included racial profiling of latinos and who is still, we should note, questioning president obama's birth certificate. and new jersey governor and trump confidant chris christie, the head of trump's transition team, a potential attorney general in the trump administration who came within a whisker of being trump's vice presidential pick. he'll appear in court on november 23rd, to answer a complaint tied to the bridgegate scandal. >> i had no knowledge or involvement in this issue, in its planning or its execution, and i am stunned by the abject
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stupidity that was shown here. >> in court today, christie's former top aide bridget ann kelly contradicted christie's claim that he had no knowledge about bridgegate. testifying she had a conversation with former port authority david wildstein. i spoke to wildstein today, the port authority had be doing a traffic study in fort lee. when are they doing this. wildsteen did say there's going to be tremendous traffic problems in fort lee. you've been following this closely. give us the basic lay of the land which is christie was unequivocal on the record in front of all the records, i knew zero before or after until it was in the press. what has the trial shown? >> this was supposed to be the smoking gun. and for 2 1/2 years nobody, and that includes the prosecutors until today, had heard from bridget kelly. bridget kelly had the e-mail.
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time for traffic problems in fort lee. it looks like case closed right there. her lawyer has suggested for the last 2 1/2 years when she finally gets to court there will be context added to this that will make it look very different. this is a big thing she's adding and testifying today saying, look, there's a history to that e-mail and the history is wild wildstein tells me he's got this plan. let christie take credit for solving traffic jam in north jersey. she takes it to christie and explains the situation and says time for some traffic. she's implicating chris christie a month earlier than the shutdowns. she added a second detail. during the shutdowns, september 2013, that chris christie came back from a 9/11 ceremony and that christie was talking about how the traffic issue came up in their conversation. he knew there was a big traffic mess playing out in fort lee. wildstein had testified that he had this conversation with christie at that ceremony. >> basically saying this is what
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we did, boss. >> she was corroborating what wildstein said there. two key things that she came out with today. >> wildstein's story here and to remember that's right this massive traffic jam happened wildstein's story is this was cooked up as political punishment for mayor sokolich who would not endorse christie. bridget ann kelly saying i thought it was a traffic study and the governor thought it was a traffic study. he knew about it and talked about it after it was happening. >> bridget kelly, we have to say when the prosecutor this is the defense attorney doing the testifying the prosecutor will get a chance at her she's vulnerable on a few fronts we should point out because during the shutdown she was told that the mayor o the town that was being affected was furious, baffled, trying to get explanations, told of the problems he's facing. she has an e-mail that says good. this was coming to a head in september of 2013 and christie sat his staff down for explanations. she saw to it that this e-mail got deleted. so if you're looking for a gray
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area here where if you say you believe the essence of what she's saying today but maybe it's more complicated, there could be a gray area where she had some knowledge but she's trying to say, hey, i wasn't the only one. my boss did. >> the thing i keep thinking about is two different counterfactual earth b and earth c, b is christie won the nomination and three weeks before the election day, this is what's in the news, the trial saying the guy was a liar. earth c, he became the vice presidential nominee and he's on the ticket. >> also, just think back a couple years. you could write a book on the rise of trump and the history of the republican party 2012 to 2016, that would start with chris christie as the front-runner. it was all gearing up toward this re-election campaign in new jersey and the whole idea, everybody in the christie universe in new jersey in 2013 was thinking about what can i do to make that margin -- >> a rout, we need a rout. >> almost like nixon in '72, the
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watergate parallel. you do the small thing that will raise the numbers so we can go and say hey i'm the republican governor in the blue state and i just got 60% of the vote you need me to win. >> this is chris christie the guy overseeing the transition for donald trump right now should that eventually happen steve kornacki thank you the latest poll isn't looking good for trump but could results on election day be possibly worse? . no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all, the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class. lease the c300 for $369 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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after telling jokes at the al smith dinner a white tie affair, hillary clinton's speech took a serious turn when she gave the closing argument for her entire campaign. >> you certainly don't need to be catholic to be inspired by the humility and heart of the holy father, pope francis. or to embrace his message.
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his message about rejecting a mind-set of hostility. his calls to reduce inequality. his warnings about climate change. his appeal that we build bridges not walls. now, as you may know my running mate, tim, is catholic and went to jesuit schools and one of the things he and i talked about is this idea of the jesuits of the magis, the more, the better, we need to find ways to disagree on matters of policy while agreeing on questions of decency and civility. how we talk to each other, treat each other, respect each other. so i've taken this concept of
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18 days before election day donald trump is on the wrong side of the polls. with each passing day more early votes are cast. data on early voting is thus far favoring the democrats. according to "the washington post" in seven states where returned ballot data was available by party, democrats made up a larger percentage of what had come back by the 20-day mark than in 2012. that's the apples to apples comparison. trump would need something to radically shake up the race or to the polls to be wrong, which is a possibility. there is the shy voter theory, the idea that some trump voters might not admit their support to a pollster but will cast that vote on election day. there's an opposing theory that trump voters might underperform. here's an example. missouri senate candidate todd aiken whose poll numbers started slipping after his infamous
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legitimate rape comment, the last polling before the election gave claire mccaskill a lead, mccaskill ended up winning by a whopping 17%. joining me political analyst for fivethirtyeighth. you've written about this. >> we have. >> about candidates that have some kind of disastrous character issue explode late in a race underperforming in the polls. >> david duke, remember when he ran for governor, there was all this conversation. people don't want to say that they'd vote for david duke because obviously david duke held some views. what happened on election day, there were african-americans who turned out in record numbers and david duke underperformed his polls and the democratic candidate won rather easily. >> the duke case, he was polling higher than he ended up performing. >> yes. >> and much of that is accounting for the fact that he was such a lightning rod, to use
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the word "deplorable." >> exactly. >> he was more of a motivator for his opponent. >> exactly. it wouldn't take much to happen to say, okay, latinos, for example. we're seeing them register in higher numbers in a state like arizona that's much closer than you might have thought at the beginning of the year. why would that be? because of donald trump. it wouldn't shock me at all, higher latino turnout, these polls could be skewed towards the democrats. >> what about this online poll first interviewer thing. clinton 48-38 according to huff po in live polls much narrower lead in online polls. that's the evidence for the shy trump voter theory, right, that when interviewers happen -- when you take away the interviewers, trump does better. >> sure, but we saw this during the primaries and saw convergence but the polls were good in the primary. it was the pundits such as myself who out in there's no way that donald trump could possibly win the republican nomination. the polls go from august of 2015
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onward they all said trump was going to win and he did win. >> we got the aiken example, you guys cited anthony weiner, even after the mayoral race and texting scandal resurfaced for him, his poll numbers declined. >> he was at about 10%, then got about 5% of the vote. that's a perfect example of someone 40 has a real name, a real new yorker, kind of that outer borough thing and voters said, uh-uh, not interested. >> what's the theory for someone like aiken and anthony weiner which is different than david duke. duke is polarizing to the opposition. late polls don't just capture the amount of movement that's happening downward in the trajectory when voters make up their mind that someone is beyond the pale. >> that would be the case. people who might say they're going to vote for aiken don't end up showing up because they're so dissatisfied with what's going on. >> like so dismayed.
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you've watch this whole implosion happen. why go to the polls if you think the guy -- >> especially if your candidate is arguing the whole thing is rigged anyway. >> there's things in the political science data that telling voters the election is rigged is a way to suppress turnout among your supporters. >> this is one of the thins that trump does that nobody understands what he's doing. it could turn very much against him. >> most -- and i've been around a lot of political organizers, around field organizers, my brother was a field organizer, i actually back in the day was a canvass canvasser. you want to send the opposite message, literally every vote counts. maybe you have to get child care on election day, maybe you can go early, but it's so important to put in this effort precisely because every vote counts. >> and donald trump is playing against the playbook because that's what worked for him in the primary, but i have news for him. general election electorates are different than primary electorates. it's clear from the polling that whatever he's doing is not working. >> thank you for your time.
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set out to rip off students. the presiding judge is judge gonzalo curiel who trump attacked. >> there should be no trial. this should be dismissed on summary judgment easily. everybody says it, but i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump, a hater. he's a hater. his name is gonzalo curiel. the judge, 40 happwho happens t believe, mexican, which is great, that is fine. the judges in this court system, federal court, they ought to look into judge curiel, because what judge curiel is doing is a total disgrace. i've had horrible rulings, i've been treated very unfairly by this judge. now, this judge is of mexican heritage. i'm building a wall, okay? i'm building a wall. >> how does his mexican parents have to do with him not ruling for you? >> a club, society, very strong pro mexican, which is all fine,
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but i say he's got bias. i'm going to build a wall. this judge has treated me very unfairly. he's treated me in a hostile manner and there's something going on. >> so how will that, not to mention everything else donald trump has been saying in his presidential campaign, affect what's going to happen in judge curiel's courtroom? his lawyers have a plan and that's thing 2. on the road again ♪ [ front assist sounds ] [ music stops ] [ girl laughs ] ♪ on the road again ♪ like a band of gypsies we go down the highway ♪ [ beetle horn honks ] no matter which passat you choose, you get more standard features, for less than you expected. hurry in and lease the 2017 passat s for just $199 a month. still not sure whether to stay or go on that business trip? ♪ should i stay or should i go? ♪ this fall at choice hotels, the more you go the better! now earn a free night when you stay with us just two times. book direct at
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so in anticipation of the upcoming fraud trial for trump university -- you remember that, by the way? where did that go? donald trump's lawyers have filed a request, defendants respectfully move to exclude evidence and arguments relates to statements made by or about mr. trump outside of the adjudicative process. that includes campaign speeches, statements at political rallies including statements about this case, statements at debates, statements about individuals or entities unrelated to this litigation, campaign advertisements, tweets, statements by campaign surrogates, audio and video recordings made or publicized during the campaign, tax issues comments about this case or the
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court donald j. trump foundation and or business owned by mr. trump not part of this litigation personal conduct accusations other politicians state attorneys general or public servants beauty pageants, casinos and corporate bankruptcies other litigation. basically trump's lawyers want to make sure that literally nothing that their client or presidential campaign has done or said or tweeted makes it into the courtroom next month. good luck. with part of a pizza. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve. ♪ using 60,000 points from my chase ink card
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donald trump waxing philosophical after getting booed at a charity dinner and down ballot republicans distancing themselves. the headline from the campaign trail just 18 days from the election are pretty shocking. made us wonder what was happening at this point in other american elections 18 days out. here's what we found. >> the two vice presidential candidates, dole and mondale, have their debate tonight. here's what they were doing today. >> senator mondale suffers from hypertension. today he was a study in relaxed
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confidence, out playing tennis early this morning. the competition on the court came from members of his campaign staff. some suggested it wasn't quite as tough as the competition mondale might expect from the debate tonight. >> nixon makes the same speech everywhere he goes. all candidates do that. but nixon is speaking on the issues of the day in only the most general way. he's saying there's lots of things wrong with this country and he's promising to do something about it, but he's not saying what. >> time will not permit an extended discussion of those great problems in which you're all interested. >> today al gore hits the talk show circuit sitting down with regis and rosie, reaching out to their large female audiences. >> the real key is the classroom experience. >> in new jersey bush used heckling by clinton supporters to remind everyone of his draft controversy. >> i wish these draft dodgers would shut up so i could finish my speech. pathetic. >> this highly negative campaign
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turned more personal, dukakis took another step, putting out a commercial to plain about a bush commercial. >> i'm fed up with it. i haven't seen anything like it, george bush's negative tv ads. >> i'm joe the plumber. it will be fun for a couple days then go away. >> not yet. he's still a symbol for the mccain/palin ticket. >> our opponent wants to raise taxes because he thinks like that other joe, that longtime senator from delaware, that other joe. >> on the broadcast tonight, 18 days and one last critical debate to go now. tonight there's a new word in the political dictionary -- >> i think it's called romney-sia. here's the examine news. obamacare covers pre-existing conditions. >> but it wasn't all fun and tennis games. take a look at the events 18 days out from the election day. a campaign event for george wallace, a candidate whose
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raucous rallies, shall we call them, many cited at the best precedent for trump. >> he had canceled today's schedule. an aide said he is suffering completely exhaustion. wallace himself as he campaigned in texas yesterday had said he was tired. nbc news correspondent dave burrington reports. >> george wallace's spirits appeared to be sagging as he arrived in ft. worth. for several days he was shouted down in el paso. >> this is wallace country, but he ran into one of the worst and one of the loudest protest demonstrations of his campaign so far. >> you've got some folks out here who know a lot of four-letter words, but there are two four-letter words they don't know.
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wrok a w-o-r-k. they are the biggest bigots in the world. oh, yeah. you know what you are. you're a little punk, that's all you are. well, let's talk about vietnam a moment. you haven't got any guts. you've got too much hair on your head, partner. you got a load on your mind. that's right. and cut the floodlights off. if you haven't got anything to put on television, why don't you just move on over here. >> at one point the secret service ordered the lights on wallace turned out. they were fearful of an attempt on the candidate's life and said the lights blinded them. the shouting didn't let up and after more than 30 minutes of it, wallace gave up. he waved to his fans and then
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left without finishing his speech. he looked haggard and at times even frightened. david burrington, nbc news, with the wallace campaign in texas. >> 18 days later wallace came in third behind richard nixon and hubert humphrey with just 10 million votes. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even mer-mutts. (1940s aqua music)
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and so when i saw that, that was completely disqualifying. i'm a republican, but this election is so much bigger than party. my son max can't live in trump world. so i'm crossing party lines and voting for hillary. i don't always agree with her, but she's reasonable. and she's smart. she can work with people to solve problems. i want to be able to tell my kids that i did the right thing when it really mattered. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. it'...when that laxour loves your body back. only miralax hydrates, eases, and softens to unblock naturally. so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax. donald trump consistently smears the character of muslims. he loves to build walls and ban
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us from this country. have you even read the united states constitution? i will gladly lend you my copy. >> for the fallout over the "access hollywood" tape or his degrading feud with the former miss universe or the allegations of unwanted physical contact from maybe nine, maybe ten women, donald trump spent nearly a week of his campaign this past summer attacking the muslim american parents of a fallen soldier. khizr khan appeared to speak out against trump's proposed ban on muslims and to tell the story of their son, captain humayun khan who was killed in iraq. khizr khan talked about his son's sacrifices for his country. now, with 18 days left in this
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campaign as part of hillary clinton's closing message, she tells his son's story, the election is ultimately about the character of this nation. >> in 2004, my son was stationed in iraq. he saw a suicide bomber approaching his camp. my son moved forward to stop the bomber when the bomb exploded. he saved everyone in his unit. only one american soldier died. my son was captain humayun khan. he was 27 years old, and he was a muslim american. i want to ask mr. trump would my son have a place in your
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america. >> joining me now "washington post" columnist catherine rampel and correspondent for mtv news. obviously unbelievably powerful ad. but also part of the reason this election feels so fraught and so wrenching is how existential it feels in that it's not like there's a big -- like the big fights are over a medicaid expansion -- >> or the culture wars. >> or even the culture wars. it's literally who are we. not even as subtext. as explicit text of the campaign, hillary clinton is saying who are we as a nation? >> this election has been about identity politics, been about race, about been gender, this is an ad that's about identity politics in the national sense. what are we as americans? and in what way do we define
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american? is american too narrowly defined in a trump universe? >> and the trump idea here is that, you know, change our status quo which they've sort of landed on as their closing message but in fact what it has been is about what great americanness really looks like. >> this has been explicit -- maybe implicit, but it's been part of the campaign from the very beginning when he started talking about making america great again. for whom was it great. >> and when. >> and when. if you're talking about throwing back to a time when large sections of the american public were disenfranchised, were not allowed to vote, were not allowed to hold certain jobs, were not allowed to marry people of a different race, this is the kind of america that he's nostalgic about and that he has been talking up about the campaign. it's not necessarily a new thing. >> there's degree to which there's pundits buy into this
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and people covering the race saying this is a change election, the people who want change for the status quo and it's true, right, but then you look at something like -- and the trump people and republicans are like how is hillary winning. then you look at job approval. 55-42. you look at the obama majority, the fact that there is a majority out there that essentially wants the america that is the obama's america, for lack of a better word, and i think it drives people crazy to imagine they're on the wrong side of that math. >> which makes it even more confusing with donald trump is persisting with a change message in this recent ad he put out saying we need to change in every single way that washington does business. a lot of people like how government works. they like government working for them. and they like to see government working for them. and i just don't understand if you're actually trying to win, that's the message you put up. but i don't think he's necessarily trying to win. he's trying to animate his base. >> it's not just about washington pipts's also about
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the economy. and if you look at our economy, we have record high wage growth last year, like the highest in decades, unemployment at 5%, very low inflation, gas prices are cheap. there's a lot of reasons to -- not to mention health insurance, that we have the lowest rate of uninsured, you know, ever. and there are a lot of reasons to say maybe things aren't perfect but they've been going in the right direction at the very least. >> that story and a good piece about this where he called it, there's a new silent majority and it's voting for hillary clinton that throughout the campaign, you know, particularly bernie followers in the primary section for -- for i think understandable reasons got a lot of coverage because of the intensity and how surprising it was that sanders was doing as well as he was, here's a socialist competing. we've seen an entire genre devoted to the trump voter, magazine piece, literary pastoral looks at the trump voter. the hillary clinton voter, the
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voter of the continuity. >> let's not rock the boat. >> that's a totally invisible person but is probably going to end up being numerically the modaloter. >> they know they've longed for a woman to be president. they think they understand these voters but they don't get involved in the nitty-gritty about what they actually want. it would be nice to see that explored a little bit more beyond the campaign. >> just to push back a little bit. part of the reason why in is a genre of the trump voter portrait is partly that the locus of media is on the east coast in relatively liberal places. it is hard for a lot of us liberal media elites to wrap our heads around -- >> i agree, and what ends up happen pg and i totally get that and it's important to talk to folk, something i've done, we've done, talked to people who are supporters, but what ends up happening is you can go to the
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point where to prove the authenticity that you don't have but you want to get to ignore the story that's there, right, which is like why are these people voting for essentially a third term of barack obama when literally when you watch cable news, pundits everyone wants change, everyone hates the way things are going. that's not true. >> people who come from the midwest have seen these trump supporters in different cloth, so to speak, before this and been pleading, hey, america, this is the reality of racism in this country, never been listened to until now until they actually had a candidate to vote for? that's a big reason why people are seeing these pieces that are treating trump voters like they're some kind of rare species. we know what these people are. >> which can also in their -- also can sort of end up to me being a little condescending. >> right. >> but ultimately because this final argument is going to be so
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existential, because the campaign has been existential, what kind of campaign are we? that's the campaign question that's being answered. the idea of putting that back together afterwards also seems really hard because -- >> trump has not seem keen on putting it back together afterward. >> thank you both. that is "all in" for this evening. rachel maddow starts right now. >> you're almost home. you're almost there. >> happy friday. >> have a good weekend. happy friday. nice to have you here. in november 2008 at an open air plaza on a beautiful night in arizona republican senator john mccain gave a speech that his supporters did not want to hear. his supporters loved him. they supported him. but he was there to do something they did not want. and you could almost see in him the almost physical strain it took for him to keep a lid on their emotions. for him as a leader, to stop the raging sentiment and


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